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		<title>By: mary</title>
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		<dc:creator>mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 May 2009 15:39:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well I never! No surprise here then.

US DISMISSES ISRAEL LOBBYIST CASE  
 
Prosecutors said they no longer felt they were able to win the case 

The US has moved to dismiss a case against two former pro-Israel lobbyists accused of conspiring to pass defence secrets to unauthorised persons. 

Prosecutors had said Steve Rosen and Keith Weissman intended to disclose the details to Israel and to the media. 

But the government said it was unlikely to win the case and that trial could exposed classified information. 

Critics said the case had been a bid to criminalise commonplace exchanges between journalists and politicians. 

Mr Rosen and Mr Weissman, formerly working for the influential American Israel Public Affairs Committee (Aipac), were the first lobbyists to be charged under the Espionage Act of 1917. 

Acting US attorney Dana Boente said that when the charges were first filed, &quot;the government believed it could prove this case beyond a reasonable doubt based on the statute&quot;. 

But he said that after the Judge TS Ellis demanded that prosecutors proved the men intended to harm the US with their actions, there was now a &quot;diminished likelihood the government will prevail at trial&quot;. 

In the statement to the court, Mr Boente asked that they dismiss the indictment given the &quot;inevitable disclosure of classified information that would occur at any trial in this matter&quot;. 

&#039;Hardship&#039; 

Lawyers for the two men said the decision was &quot;a huge victory for the First Amendment&quot;, which constitutionally guarantees the right to free speech in the US. 

The Associated Press reported Baruch Weiss as saying that a prosecution victory would have set a precedent for journalists seeking sensitive information to face possible prosecution. 

But Mr Weiss said the four-year process had been a &quot;tremendous hardship&quot; for the two men, who were dismissed by Aipac in 2005. 

Former defence analyst Lawrence Franklin was sentenced to 12 years and seven months in jail in 2006 for disclosing classified information to Mr Rosen and Mr Weissman. 

Story from BBC NEWS: 
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/1/hi/world/americas/8029884.stm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I never! No surprise here then.</p>
<p>US DISMISSES ISRAEL LOBBYIST CASE  </p>
<p>Prosecutors said they no longer felt they were able to win the case </p>
<p>The US has moved to dismiss a case against two former pro-Israel lobbyists accused of conspiring to pass defence secrets to unauthorised persons. </p>
<p>Prosecutors had said Steve Rosen and Keith Weissman intended to disclose the details to Israel and to the media. </p>
<p>But the government said it was unlikely to win the case and that trial could exposed classified information. </p>
<p>Critics said the case had been a bid to criminalise commonplace exchanges between journalists and politicians. </p>
<p>Mr Rosen and Mr Weissman, formerly working for the influential American Israel Public Affairs Committee (Aipac), were the first lobbyists to be charged under the Espionage Act of 1917. </p>
<p>Acting US attorney Dana Boente said that when the charges were first filed, &#8220;the government believed it could prove this case beyond a reasonable doubt based on the statute&#8221;. </p>
<p>But he said that after the Judge TS Ellis demanded that prosecutors proved the men intended to harm the US with their actions, there was now a &#8220;diminished likelihood the government will prevail at trial&#8221;. </p>
<p>In the statement to the court, Mr Boente asked that they dismiss the indictment given the &#8220;inevitable disclosure of classified information that would occur at any trial in this matter&#8221;. </p>
<p>&#8216;Hardship&#8217; </p>
<p>Lawyers for the two men said the decision was &#8220;a huge victory for the First Amendment&#8221;, which constitutionally guarantees the right to free speech in the US. </p>
<p>The Associated Press reported Baruch Weiss as saying that a prosecution victory would have set a precedent for journalists seeking sensitive information to face possible prosecution. </p>
<p>But Mr Weiss said the four-year process had been a &#8220;tremendous hardship&#8221; for the two men, who were dismissed by Aipac in 2005. </p>
<p>Former defence analyst Lawrence Franklin was sentenced to 12 years and seven months in jail in 2006 for disclosing classified information to Mr Rosen and Mr Weissman. </p>
<p>Story from BBC NEWS:<br />
<a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/1/hi/world/americas/8029884.stm" rel="nofollow">http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/1/hi/world/americas/8029884.stm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Tom Burghardt</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/04/aipac-nsa-spying-and-the-corruption-of-congress/#comment-44751</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Burghardt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 22:55:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The censorship of advertising is certainly disturbing, though unsurprising, given the grip over political discourse in the United States by AIPAC and their minions in Congress.

Kill 1,400 Palestinians in Gaza with U.S. supplied and manufactured weapons? What&#039;s the big deal, eh, another sterling example of Israel &quot;defending&quot; itself from a population hemmed-in on all sides from a nuclear-armed state, America&#039;s stationary aircraft carrier in the Middle East.

Oh yes, let&#039;s talk about the &quot;peace process&quot; while we&#039;re at it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The censorship of advertising is certainly disturbing, though unsurprising, given the grip over political discourse in the United States by AIPAC and their minions in Congress.</p>
<p>Kill 1,400 Palestinians in Gaza with U.S. supplied and manufactured weapons? What&#8217;s the big deal, eh, another sterling example of Israel &#8220;defending&#8221; itself from a population hemmed-in on all sides from a nuclear-armed state, America&#8217;s stationary aircraft carrier in the Middle East.</p>
<p>Oh yes, let&#8217;s talk about the &#8220;peace process&#8221; while we&#8217;re at it!</p>
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		<title>By: Suthiano</title>
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		<dc:creator>Suthiano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 21:48:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mary,

thank you for that info. That is absurd.

In line with that:

Another professor has been attacked by the zionist lobby

&quot;I included some material which was highly critical of the Israeli invasion of Gaza as part of the reading material for a course on globalization and global affairs, and this was in January. And I am now facing charges, here at the university, of anti-semitism and violating the faculty code of conduct.&quot;

http://www.counterpunch.org/henwood04292009.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mary,</p>
<p>thank you for that info. That is absurd.</p>
<p>In line with that:</p>
<p>Another professor has been attacked by the zionist lobby</p>
<p>&#8220;I included some material which was highly critical of the Israeli invasion of Gaza as part of the reading material for a course on globalization and global affairs, and this was in January. And I am now facing charges, here at the university, of anti-semitism and violating the faculty code of conduct.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.counterpunch.org/henwood04292009.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.counterpunch.org/henwood04292009.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: mary</title>
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		<dc:creator>mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 21:30:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andy - This from Mondoweiss is a case in point of the  Zionist lobby at work.  No criticism of the massive  US financial support for the Israel miitary is being tolerated in Albuquerque NM.

http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2009/04/billboards-criticizing-us-aid-to-israel-taken-down-under-pressure.html

Billboards criticizing US aid to Israel taken down under pressure
(photo of one of the billboards on the link)
 
A few weeks ago we posted about ten billboards going up around Albuquerque, NM calling for congress to cut off aid to Israel. They were put up by The Coalition to Stop $30 Billion to Israel, a multi-ethnic, multi-religious coalition working to &quot;end to the ten year commitment of $30 billion in U.S. taxpayer-funded military aid pledged to Israel in 2007 by the Bush administration.&quot; Today, the coalition sent out a press release saying that although Lamar Outdoor Advertising had signed a contract to run the billboards for eight weeks, they are coming down after three. From the press release: 

On April 8th, the Coalition to Stop $30 Billion to Israel erected the billboards throughout the  Albuquerque area in order to inform the public about the misuse of their tax dollars, denominated in human lives. The group was motivated by concern for the Palestinian people who had recently been subjected to a massive invasion of the Gaza Strip by the Israeli military. Over 1,400 Palestinians – mostly civilian, including three hundred children – were killed and over 5,000 were injured. In 2007 the Bush administration signed a Memorandum of Understanding that provides $30 billion of U.S. taxpayer dollars to Israel over a ten year period beginning in 2008. The majority of these dollars will be used to purchase American-made weapons.

The design of the billboard had been approved by Lamar and the billboards’ wording and final image were suggested by Lamar’s graphics designer.

According to information from Lamar, it appears groups claiming to be pro-Israel have conducted a campaign to pressure Lamar to remove the billboards. The Coalition believes this is a deliberate attempt to silence its right to free speech because the humanitarian message of the billboards supports equal rights for the Palestinian people, thereby necessitating criticism of Israel.  

Members of the Coalition will be meeting with Lamar on Friday. We&#039;ll be sure to post an update. 

Posted by Adam Horowitz at 02:11 PM in Adam Horowitz, Gaza, Israel Lobby, Israel/Palestine, U.S. Policy in the Mideast &#124; Permalink</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andy &#8211; This from Mondoweiss is a case in point of the  Zionist lobby at work.  No criticism of the massive  US financial support for the Israel miitary is being tolerated in Albuquerque NM.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2009/04/billboards-criticizing-us-aid-to-israel-taken-down-under-pressure.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2009/04/billboards-criticizing-us-aid-to-israel-taken-down-under-pressure.html</a></p>
<p>Billboards criticizing US aid to Israel taken down under pressure<br />
(photo of one of the billboards on the link)</p>
<p>A few weeks ago we posted about ten billboards going up around Albuquerque, NM calling for congress to cut off aid to Israel. They were put up by The Coalition to Stop $30 Billion to Israel, a multi-ethnic, multi-religious coalition working to &#8220;end to the ten year commitment of $30 billion in U.S. taxpayer-funded military aid pledged to Israel in 2007 by the Bush administration.&#8221; Today, the coalition sent out a press release saying that although Lamar Outdoor Advertising had signed a contract to run the billboards for eight weeks, they are coming down after three. From the press release: </p>
<p>On April 8th, the Coalition to Stop $30 Billion to Israel erected the billboards throughout the  Albuquerque area in order to inform the public about the misuse of their tax dollars, denominated in human lives. The group was motivated by concern for the Palestinian people who had recently been subjected to a massive invasion of the Gaza Strip by the Israeli military. Over 1,400 Palestinians – mostly civilian, including three hundred children – were killed and over 5,000 were injured. In 2007 the Bush administration signed a Memorandum of Understanding that provides $30 billion of U.S. taxpayer dollars to Israel over a ten year period beginning in 2008. The majority of these dollars will be used to purchase American-made weapons.</p>
<p>The design of the billboard had been approved by Lamar and the billboards’ wording and final image were suggested by Lamar’s graphics designer.</p>
<p>According to information from Lamar, it appears groups claiming to be pro-Israel have conducted a campaign to pressure Lamar to remove the billboards. The Coalition believes this is a deliberate attempt to silence its right to free speech because the humanitarian message of the billboards supports equal rights for the Palestinian people, thereby necessitating criticism of Israel.  </p>
<p>Members of the Coalition will be meeting with Lamar on Friday. We&#8217;ll be sure to post an update. </p>
<p>Posted by Adam Horowitz at 02:11 PM in Adam Horowitz, Gaza, Israel Lobby, Israel/Palestine, U.S. Policy in the Mideast | Permalink</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Kirk &#38; the Nuances of Joy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy Kirk &#38; the Nuances of Joy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 20:53:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mary, re your second question, the answer is yes, different writers and organizations publish well researched/documented surveys of transfers of US Government and also of private funds to the State of Israel and to Israeli institutions/agencies/organizations. Sorry I don&#039;t have time to supply you with more info so you&#039;ll have to do your own research. You could start with Electronic Intifada, Palestine Chronicle, and the Institute for Palestine Studies. The Washington Monthly on Middle East Affairs includes a lot of sources. Ask Jeff Blankfort, he remembers everything while I tend to forget.  One helpful book is &quot;American Jewish Organizations and Israel&quot; by Lee O&#039;Brien, out of print but available. 

First question calls for speculation since nobody knows for sure, but IMO most folks out there, including (or especially?) most of the &quot;progressives&quot;  don&#039;t have much idea what&#039;s going on. Even those who are reputed to be pro-Palestine leaders usually avoid the touchiest questions, whether out of lack of knowledge or abundance of &quot;prudence&quot; is not to me clear.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mary, re your second question, the answer is yes, different writers and organizations publish well researched/documented surveys of transfers of US Government and also of private funds to the State of Israel and to Israeli institutions/agencies/organizations. Sorry I don&#8217;t have time to supply you with more info so you&#8217;ll have to do your own research. You could start with Electronic Intifada, Palestine Chronicle, and the Institute for Palestine Studies. The Washington Monthly on Middle East Affairs includes a lot of sources. Ask Jeff Blankfort, he remembers everything while I tend to forget.  One helpful book is &#8220;American Jewish Organizations and Israel&#8221; by Lee O&#8217;Brien, out of print but available. </p>
<p>First question calls for speculation since nobody knows for sure, but IMO most folks out there, including (or especially?) most of the &#8220;progressives&#8221;  don&#8217;t have much idea what&#8217;s going on. Even those who are reputed to be pro-Palestine leaders usually avoid the touchiest questions, whether out of lack of knowledge or abundance of &#8220;prudence&#8221; is not to me clear.</p>
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		<title>By: mary</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/04/aipac-nsa-spying-and-the-corruption-of-congress/#comment-44586</link>
		<dc:creator>mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 19:13:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Could anyone give their view on the level of awareness  of the Zionist lobby by the average American  and whether the extent of the US financial support for Israel is known.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Could anyone give their view on the level of awareness  of the Zionist lobby by the average American  and whether the extent of the US financial support for Israel is known.</p>
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		<title>By: Denis Foley</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/04/aipac-nsa-spying-and-the-corruption-of-congress/#comment-44447</link>
		<dc:creator>Denis Foley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Apr 2009 15:12:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Today in the U.S.A. there is a young person who will join the army soon.Somewhere in the near future he or she will be tortured to death in case he or she knows anything about the U.S. plans to attack another persons country.This will be justified as a &#039;hidden bomb&#039; situation as the U.S. does actually attack other countries whenever they feel the need. Americans are now &#039;fair game&#039; anywhere in the world and some will die in the most grotesque manner.Most of this insanity can be directly linked to the depradations of Israel in Palestine and the thirst for other peoples wealth/assets/oil etc. How is it that the Jewish people.respected and admired for their creative intellect,can be so stupid.The retribution for all these gross crimes against innocent people will eventually be paid with interest and many Jews will be killed. The survivors,if any,will curse the day that Zionism was thought up. Sad,isn&#039;t it that they can&#039;t tell the difference between Hubris and chutzpah.Regards to all those that love peace among the nations.DF</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Today in the U.S.A. there is a young person who will join the army soon.Somewhere in the near future he or she will be tortured to death in case he or she knows anything about the U.S. plans to attack another persons country.This will be justified as a &#8216;hidden bomb&#8217; situation as the U.S. does actually attack other countries whenever they feel the need. Americans are now &#8216;fair game&#8217; anywhere in the world and some will die in the most grotesque manner.Most of this insanity can be directly linked to the depradations of Israel in Palestine and the thirst for other peoples wealth/assets/oil etc. How is it that the Jewish people.respected and admired for their creative intellect,can be so stupid.The retribution for all these gross crimes against innocent people will eventually be paid with interest and many Jews will be killed. The survivors,if any,will curse the day that Zionism was thought up. Sad,isn&#8217;t it that they can&#8217;t tell the difference between Hubris and chutzpah.Regards to all those that love peace among the nations.DF</p>
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		<title>By: Mulga Mumblebrain</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/04/aipac-nsa-spying-and-the-corruption-of-congress/#comment-44372</link>
		<dc:creator>Mulga Mumblebrain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 23:30:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually bozh, the Zionists, like Herzl and Ben-Gurion used to be more candid. Eretz Yisrael was to be from the Nile to the Euphrates, and it does not take much Googling to find maps where various Zionist ultras have most of Lebanon, Jordan, parts of Syria, Iraq and the Sinai &#039;redeemed&#039; . I believe some even have parts of Turkey and Cyprus too. Whether there exist real plans to eventually seize these lands , I have no idea. Such theft could only occur amidst some generalised Middle Eastern war, with great destruction, so I tend to dismiss it as nothing but the lunatic pipe-dreams of ultra-chauvinistic racists, but that type is emphatically on the ascendant in Israel, so the chances of it occurring or being attempted are not, alas, zero. And while the Palestinians are constantly screeched at that they must jump through an endless series of rhetorical hoops, obediently &#039;recognising Israel&#039;s &#039;Right to Exist&#039;&#039;, while they have none, or recognise &#039;Israel&#039;s Right to Exist as a Jewish State&#039; ie agreeing to the apartheid state keeping its Arab second-class citizens perpetually at the bottom of the social order, no-one dares make any demands of the &#039;Holy State&#039;. To demand that Israel actually refute Eretz Yisrael, and delineate its eventual borders, is certain to be met by howls of &#039;anti-Semitism&#039;, but these days, just about everything does.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually bozh, the Zionists, like Herzl and Ben-Gurion used to be more candid. Eretz Yisrael was to be from the Nile to the Euphrates, and it does not take much Googling to find maps where various Zionist ultras have most of Lebanon, Jordan, parts of Syria, Iraq and the Sinai &#8216;redeemed&#8217; . I believe some even have parts of Turkey and Cyprus too. Whether there exist real plans to eventually seize these lands , I have no idea. Such theft could only occur amidst some generalised Middle Eastern war, with great destruction, so I tend to dismiss it as nothing but the lunatic pipe-dreams of ultra-chauvinistic racists, but that type is emphatically on the ascendant in Israel, so the chances of it occurring or being attempted are not, alas, zero. And while the Palestinians are constantly screeched at that they must jump through an endless series of rhetorical hoops, obediently &#8216;recognising Israel&#8217;s &#8216;Right to Exist&#8221;, while they have none, or recognise &#8216;Israel&#8217;s Right to Exist as a Jewish State&#8217; ie agreeing to the apartheid state keeping its Arab second-class citizens perpetually at the bottom of the social order, no-one dares make any demands of the &#8216;Holy State&#8217;. To demand that Israel actually refute Eretz Yisrael, and delineate its eventual borders, is certain to be met by howls of &#8216;anti-Semitism&#8217;, but these days, just about everything does.</p>
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		<title>By: bozh</title>
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		<dc:creator>bozh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 14:32:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mulga,
the  &#039;settlers&#039;  of americas and australia had not ever declared what it was they wanted.

most  of  the  &#039;settlers&#039;  in palestine also have never stated what their final solution is.  This is a taboo  topic among christians.
by silence, the judeo-christian ad hoc bloc tacitly say, Well, we&#039;ll see!   We don&#039;t know how much, but as much as we can, and by any means until we are fully sated. tnx</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mulga,<br />
the  &#8217;settlers&#8217;  of americas and australia had not ever declared what it was they wanted.</p>
<p>most  of  the  &#8217;settlers&#8217;  in palestine also have never stated what their final solution is.  This is a taboo  topic among christians.<br />
by silence, the judeo-christian ad hoc bloc tacitly say, Well, we&#8217;ll see!   We don&#8217;t know how much, but as much as we can, and by any means until we are fully sated. tnx</p>
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		<title>By: Mulga Mumblebrain</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/04/aipac-nsa-spying-and-the-corruption-of-congress/#comment-44290</link>
		<dc:creator>Mulga Mumblebrain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 07:36:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t forget how the Zionists were crowing that Obama was the &#039;first Jewish President&#039;, so complete is the Judaic Lobby&#039;s control over him. Don&#039;t be too shamefaced about it &#039;though. We here in Australia, and in the UK and increasingly in Europe, are also controlled by Judaic money power. Certainly the media here runs like a bad issue of the &#039;Jerusalem Post&#039;, and politicians gouge each other in the scrabble to throw themselves in supplication before the local &#039;Lobby&#039;. Naturally, pointing the influence out brings down the reflex vilification of &#039;anti-Semite&#039;. And the Chosen foot-soldiers clearly have a lot of spare time on their hands, as every blog is soon infested with them and their hasbara delivered with consummate chutzpah. Inevitably, one must, at some stage, once one has garnered sufficient experience to face the facts, and girded one&#039;s loins to repel the abuse that descends on one&#039;s head for speaking the plain facts, begin to contemplate the &#039;for what purpose&#039;, and &#039;where does this all end&#039; questions. After all, Israel is inviolable, armed to the teeth with nuclear weapons, and in total control of the US media and politics. It has been offered comprehensive peace treaties by the Arabs, led by Saudi Arabia. The Palestinians are worn out, if not defeated, and the Lebanese Shia just wish to be left in peace.  Withdrawal from the Occupied Territories almost certainly would bring peace and quiet, if that was really what Zionism desired.Yet Zionist belligerence and murderousness only grows, as witnessed by the psychopathic sadism of Gaza, and the still ongoing blockade. What really is the final objective of the unparalleled lust and drive for power and control of Zionism?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t forget how the Zionists were crowing that Obama was the &#8216;first Jewish President&#8217;, so complete is the Judaic Lobby&#8217;s control over him. Don&#8217;t be too shamefaced about it &#8216;though. We here in Australia, and in the UK and increasingly in Europe, are also controlled by Judaic money power. Certainly the media here runs like a bad issue of the &#8216;Jerusalem Post&#8217;, and politicians gouge each other in the scrabble to throw themselves in supplication before the local &#8216;Lobby&#8217;. Naturally, pointing the influence out brings down the reflex vilification of &#8216;anti-Semite&#8217;. And the Chosen foot-soldiers clearly have a lot of spare time on their hands, as every blog is soon infested with them and their hasbara delivered with consummate chutzpah. Inevitably, one must, at some stage, once one has garnered sufficient experience to face the facts, and girded one&#8217;s loins to repel the abuse that descends on one&#8217;s head for speaking the plain facts, begin to contemplate the &#8216;for what purpose&#8217;, and &#8216;where does this all end&#8217; questions. After all, Israel is inviolable, armed to the teeth with nuclear weapons, and in total control of the US media and politics. It has been offered comprehensive peace treaties by the Arabs, led by Saudi Arabia. The Palestinians are worn out, if not defeated, and the Lebanese Shia just wish to be left in peace.  Withdrawal from the Occupied Territories almost certainly would bring peace and quiet, if that was really what Zionism desired.Yet Zionist belligerence and murderousness only grows, as witnessed by the psychopathic sadism of Gaza, and the still ongoing blockade. What really is the final objective of the unparalleled lust and drive for power and control of Zionism?</p>
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		<title>By: beverly</title>
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		<dc:creator>beverly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 04:34:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No wonder the President wants to &quot;move forward&quot; and not investigate or prosecute BushCo&#039;s  high crimes and misdemeanors.   Such might result in a few indictments and prison terms for the crooks in his own party - not to mention later on, he may be subject to an independent prosecutor inquiry since he&#039;s continuing many of BushCo&#039;s questionable and downright illegal tactics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No wonder the President wants to &#8220;move forward&#8221; and not investigate or prosecute BushCo&#8217;s  high crimes and misdemeanors.   Such might result in a few indictments and prison terms for the crooks in his own party &#8211; not to mention later on, he may be subject to an independent prosecutor inquiry since he&#8217;s continuing many of BushCo&#8217;s questionable and downright illegal tactics.</p>
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		<title>By: bozh</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/04/aipac-nsa-spying-and-the-corruption-of-congress/#comment-44277</link>
		<dc:creator>bozh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 02:38:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>why do people say on and on that aggression against iraqi people was based on lies?  This implies that the war against iraq wld have been justified if it was based on truth!

but on whose truth wld have beeen  the aggressions  against afhgh&#039;n, pak&#039;n, and iraq justified?  On american?  Yes, of course!  And a truth can be manufactured with equal ease as a lie.

so, what is the difference?  None, since we wld have had the three wars as long as we say that US has no rigth to wage wars based on lies but only based on truth.

in short, it appears lot better to object to all wars based on words and justify them solely on deeds.
 in case of iraq, war against it  cld have been waged only by UN and only after we saw a smoking bomb.
but only after a severe demand iraq&#039;s  WMD be destroyed.
but US had taken the law into its own hands;  its words [lies/truth] suffice as a justification to attack any land.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>why do people say on and on that aggression against iraqi people was based on lies?  This implies that the war against iraq wld have been justified if it was based on truth!</p>
<p>but on whose truth wld have beeen  the aggressions  against afhgh&#8217;n, pak&#8217;n, and iraq justified?  On american?  Yes, of course!  And a truth can be manufactured with equal ease as a lie.</p>
<p>so, what is the difference?  None, since we wld have had the three wars as long as we say that US has no rigth to wage wars based on lies but only based on truth.</p>
<p>in short, it appears lot better to object to all wars based on words and justify them solely on deeds.<br />
 in case of iraq, war against it  cld have been waged only by UN and only after we saw a smoking bomb.<br />
but only after a severe demand iraq&#8217;s  WMD be destroyed.<br />
but US had taken the law into its own hands;  its words [lies/truth] suffice as a justification to attack any land.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Kirk &#38; the Nuances of Joy</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/04/aipac-nsa-spying-and-the-corruption-of-congress/#comment-44179</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy Kirk &#38; the Nuances of Joy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 00:53:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wallace, I don&#039;t know how you arrived at your view of things, but it&#039;s pretty close to how I see the USiano predicament. 

They have us surrounded and infiltrated to the point where I don&#039;t even believe what I think. 

AIPAC is just tip of the iceberg. Besides all the other lobbying/influencing outfits like the Council of Presidents, don&#039;t overlook the JCRC&#039;s, the ADL, the Fed, the campus orgs, Stand With Us, the presence in all your local &quot;progressive&quot; or Liberal ecumenical activities, the stranglehold on the News Media incl. nearly all of the &quot;left&quot; same, the control of Organized Labor, of the &quot;Civil Rights&quot; organizations whose annual budgets are dependent on Zionist Power Network support, of all the local Democratic party clubs, candidates, campaigns &amp; minor office holders.
Not even the far-left ANSWER Coalition will countenance suggestions that it might be worthwhile to investigate the role of US Jewish Zionist figures and organizations in the contemporary US political/economic process.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wallace, I don&#8217;t know how you arrived at your view of things, but it&#8217;s pretty close to how I see the USiano predicament. </p>
<p>They have us surrounded and infiltrated to the point where I don&#8217;t even believe what I think. </p>
<p>AIPAC is just tip of the iceberg. Besides all the other lobbying/influencing outfits like the Council of Presidents, don&#8217;t overlook the JCRC&#8217;s, the ADL, the Fed, the campus orgs, Stand With Us, the presence in all your local &#8220;progressive&#8221; or Liberal ecumenical activities, the stranglehold on the News Media incl. nearly all of the &#8220;left&#8221; same, the control of Organized Labor, of the &#8220;Civil Rights&#8221; organizations whose annual budgets are dependent on Zionist Power Network support, of all the local Democratic party clubs, candidates, campaigns &amp; minor office holders.<br />
Not even the far-left ANSWER Coalition will countenance suggestions that it might be worthwhile to investigate the role of US Jewish Zionist figures and organizations in the contemporary US political/economic process.</p>
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		<title>By: Wallace</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wallace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 23:24:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The American people are being imprisoned and surveilled in a very gradual but definite way. It looks like we will be the frog who got caught in boiling water and couldn&#039;t get out because it was too late.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The American people are being imprisoned and surveilled in a very gradual but definite way. It looks like we will be the frog who got caught in boiling water and couldn&#8217;t get out because it was too late.</p>
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