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		<title>By: kalidas</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/03/the-semantics-of-illusion/#comment-41566</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 21:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>May as well put P.T. Barnum&#039;s face on the dollar and get it over with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>May as well put P.T. Barnum&#8217;s face on the dollar and get it over with.</p>
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		<title>By: bozh</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/03/the-semantics-of-illusion/#comment-41550</link>
		<dc:creator>bozh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 15:48:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>brian k, yes
for me [because of my nervous system] it wld be better to parade/shout/hold placcards around  a destroyer; at least, i&#039;d feel  better.
who can get  mad at so much steel?
US is not governed on streets or by dissenters/lower classes.
while hobos seem to be out of it completely; followed by prisoners, indigenes, and other  &#039;low life&#039;

caveat  about  &quot;low&quot;!  low in the eyes of the highs.
no protest had ever, as far as i know, even deterred a war let alone delayed or stopped,  once it&#039;s under way.
this is in toto controled by the uncle.

let&#039;s please do away with dysphemistic label  &quot;ignorance&quot;  that some people use to incorrectly depict reality.
noone is ignorant. USans are people; thus, feel/behave/think just like russians, indians, turkmen, chinese, et al

US, because its wealth, was able to use it to delude amers.  nazis have done that to possibly 90% of germans.
italy has done that to italians.   
and all peoples i know of have over millennia gone thru this.

it&#039;s important not think of amers as a separate specie; light onto the world; the noblest, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>brian k, yes<br />
for me [because of my nervous system] it wld be better to parade/shout/hold placcards around  a destroyer; at least, i&#8217;d feel  better.<br />
who can get  mad at so much steel?<br />
US is not governed on streets or by dissenters/lower classes.<br />
while hobos seem to be out of it completely; followed by prisoners, indigenes, and other  &#8216;low life&#8217;</p>
<p>caveat  about  &#8220;low&#8221;!  low in the eyes of the highs.<br />
no protest had ever, as far as i know, even deterred a war let alone delayed or stopped,  once it&#8217;s under way.<br />
this is in toto controled by the uncle.</p>
<p>let&#8217;s please do away with dysphemistic label  &#8220;ignorance&#8221;  that some people use to incorrectly depict reality.<br />
noone is ignorant. USans are people; thus, feel/behave/think just like russians, indians, turkmen, chinese, et al</p>
<p>US, because its wealth, was able to use it to delude amers.  nazis have done that to possibly 90% of germans.<br />
italy has done that to italians.<br />
and all peoples i know of have over millennia gone thru this.</p>
<p>it&#8217;s important not think of amers as a separate specie; light onto the world; the noblest, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Koontz</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/03/the-semantics-of-illusion/#comment-41545</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Koontz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 13:32:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Words derive naturally from the will. It isn&#039;t a lack of the proper words that causes even the &quot;left&quot; to use ruling-class propaganda - it&#039;s a simple desire for that left to align themselves with the ruling class.

The ruling class controls virtually everything in the society - from the justice system to the educational system to the economic system. The reach of the ruling class can NEVER be escaped from, no matter how one might immerse themselves into TV (corporate-controlled), video games (corporate-controlled), or sporting events (likewise). Someone who resists the ruling class is an outcast, an outlaw, not only outside the mainstream but fundamentally outside society itself.

Given the choice, a large majority of Americans choose to align themselves with, or at least politely acquiesce to, the ruling class.

Too many people believe that resisting the ruling class is a mere matter of a political position, or speaking the right words, or holding a sign up and marching through a street. That does nothing in and of itself. Only when that is part of a larger personal movement in oneself (and parallel social movement in society), part of a process of *becoming* that outcast, is that valuable.

If this is not recognized, then all that will happen with this &quot;change in language&quot; is different words spoken, without any changes to the *structures* of social reality. The people who speak the different words can congratulate themselves on their &quot;hipness&quot; and &quot;political awareness&quot; and life will go on like always.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Words derive naturally from the will. It isn&#8217;t a lack of the proper words that causes even the &#8220;left&#8221; to use ruling-class propaganda &#8211; it&#8217;s a simple desire for that left to align themselves with the ruling class.</p>
<p>The ruling class controls virtually everything in the society &#8211; from the justice system to the educational system to the economic system. The reach of the ruling class can NEVER be escaped from, no matter how one might immerse themselves into TV (corporate-controlled), video games (corporate-controlled), or sporting events (likewise). Someone who resists the ruling class is an outcast, an outlaw, not only outside the mainstream but fundamentally outside society itself.</p>
<p>Given the choice, a large majority of Americans choose to align themselves with, or at least politely acquiesce to, the ruling class.</p>
<p>Too many people believe that resisting the ruling class is a mere matter of a political position, or speaking the right words, or holding a sign up and marching through a street. That does nothing in and of itself. Only when that is part of a larger personal movement in oneself (and parallel social movement in society), part of a process of *becoming* that outcast, is that valuable.</p>
<p>If this is not recognized, then all that will happen with this &#8220;change in language&#8221; is different words spoken, without any changes to the *structures* of social reality. The people who speak the different words can congratulate themselves on their &#8220;hipness&#8221; and &#8220;political awareness&#8221; and life will go on like always.</p>
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		<title>By: HR</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/03/the-semantics-of-illusion/#comment-41510</link>
		<dc:creator>HR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Mar 2009 19:23:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not to mention terms like business &quot;parks&quot;, industrial &quot;parks&quot; and &quot;parkways&quot;, hospital and corporate &quot;campuses&quot;.  We&#039;ve become so conditioned to misleading Chamber of Commerce phrases that we don&#039;t even think about them.  During the late 80s and early 90s, streets named Data Drive, Commerce Circle, Trade Center Drive, Mercantile Drive and such sprang up in Rancho Cordova, CA as &quot;light industry&quot; and insurance companies moved in to the gold dredger tailings south of U.S. 50.  It was truly sickening.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not to mention terms like business &#8220;parks&#8221;, industrial &#8220;parks&#8221; and &#8220;parkways&#8221;, hospital and corporate &#8220;campuses&#8221;.  We&#8217;ve become so conditioned to misleading Chamber of Commerce phrases that we don&#8217;t even think about them.  During the late 80s and early 90s, streets named Data Drive, Commerce Circle, Trade Center Drive, Mercantile Drive and such sprang up in Rancho Cordova, CA as &#8220;light industry&#8221; and insurance companies moved in to the gold dredger tailings south of U.S. 50.  It was truly sickening.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Kenny</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/03/the-semantics-of-illusion/#comment-41498</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Kenny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Mar 2009 18:07:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The reason why it was not a tidal wave to the audience was probably because it came as no surprise to them.  I can&#039;t be the only one who has noticed the almost complete absence of ethics among the present generation of journalists, without regard to country or political views. The level of manipulation, distortion, self-censorship and, frequently, barefaced lying is astounding! The internet has actually made things worse, inasmuch as it has allowed both writers and bloggers to hide behind anonymity or pseudonyms. The inevitable result is that few now believe anything they read in the media. That, of course, may ultimately prove healthy, but in the interim, we are all reduced to soviet-style reading between the lines, trying to figure out what truth the lie is trying to conceal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The reason why it was not a tidal wave to the audience was probably because it came as no surprise to them.  I can&#8217;t be the only one who has noticed the almost complete absence of ethics among the present generation of journalists, without regard to country or political views. The level of manipulation, distortion, self-censorship and, frequently, barefaced lying is astounding! The internet has actually made things worse, inasmuch as it has allowed both writers and bloggers to hide behind anonymity or pseudonyms. The inevitable result is that few now believe anything they read in the media. That, of course, may ultimately prove healthy, but in the interim, we are all reduced to soviet-style reading between the lines, trying to figure out what truth the lie is trying to conceal.</p>
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