Comments on: Bedouin Baby’s Power Struggle With Israel http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/03/bedouin-baby%e2%80%99s-power-struggle-with-israel/ a radical newsletter in the struggle for peace and social justice Thu, 08 Dec 2011 15:07:30 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: mary http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/03/bedouin-baby%e2%80%99s-power-struggle-with-israel/#comment-41409 mary Thu, 19 Mar 2009 18:59:07 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=7281#comment-41409 These are links to the Guardian and Ha'aretz articles on the same IDF story. Israel Troops Admit Gaza Abuses Guardian story: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/mar/19/israeli-troops-gaza-shootings-civilians and Ha'aretz: http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1072040.html These are links to the Guardian and Ha’aretz articles on the same IDF story.

Israel Troops Admit Gaza Abuses

Guardian story:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/mar/19/israeli-troops-gaza-shootings-civilians

and Ha’aretz:
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1072040.html

]]> By: mary http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/03/bedouin-baby%e2%80%99s-power-struggle-with-israel/#comment-41408 mary Thu, 19 Mar 2009 18:54:36 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=7281#comment-41408 Whoever thinks that the author goes along with the Israeli state could watch this video to see how he speaks out against the injustices and abuses perpetrated on the Palestinians whilst he is living in the 'belly of the beast' as we call it. I would call him brave and courageous. He lives in occupied Nazareth incidentally. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-973170929151170880&hl=en On visiting his website today, I acquired a virus which I was fortunately able to delete and there was yet another one lurking on his e-mail button. Why would that be I wonder? Sending a link yesterday to a friend who lives in Bethlehem produced a link for him to a South American site! I had sent a link to a video of a group of French protesters visiting a Carrefour supermarket and pointing out the Israeli produce and products that were on sale. This is just pathetic interference in communication. The BBC are mollifying us today by broadcasting an item about the Cast Lead military and what they did to the people of Gaza. Note the telling comment about the Palestinians' lives being less important than those of the Israelis. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/7952603.stm Whoever thinks that the author goes along with the Israeli state could watch this video to see how he speaks out against the injustices and abuses perpetrated on the Palestinians whilst he is living in the ‘belly of the beast’ as we call it. I would call him brave and courageous. He lives in occupied Nazareth incidentally.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-973170929151170880&hl=en

On visiting his website today, I acquired a virus which I was fortunately able to delete and there was yet another one lurking on his e-mail button. Why would that be I wonder? Sending a link yesterday to a friend who lives in Bethlehem produced a link for him to a South American site! I had sent a link to a video of a group of French protesters visiting a Carrefour supermarket and pointing out the Israeli produce and products that were on sale. This is just pathetic interference in communication.

The BBC are mollifying us today by broadcasting an item about the Cast Lead military and what they did to the people of Gaza. Note the telling comment about the Palestinians’ lives being less important than those of the Israelis.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/7952603.stm

]]> By: Barry99 http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/03/bedouin-baby%e2%80%99s-power-struggle-with-israel/#comment-41392 Barry99 Thu, 19 Mar 2009 13:12:36 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=7281#comment-41392 Moz - Definitions of what constitutes a democracy vary but the fact that Israel holds 3.8 million Palestinians captive - they have no voice, no vote in Israeli government, would indicate that Israel is a democracy only in the sense that Apartheid South Africa was a democracy - that some voting goes on amongst certain self-privileged groups. Yes you are so right on where Israeli water comes from. About 40% of Israel's water supply comes from aquifers that underly the West Bank - chiefly the Tananim Aquifer. And by the same token, Palestinians in the West Bank are forbidden to use this water - their allotments are kept at minimums established many years ago - with no increases for population growth or development. Palestinians who want to plant a garden must file for a permit. Said permit is never approved nor denied - something right out of Kafka. And Amen to you too on what made it possible for Israel to proclaim itself a free and civilized state. Mebosa says this with a straight face while ignoring all the crimes against humanity swept under the rug over the last sixty-some-odd years. Moz – Definitions of what constitutes a democracy vary but the fact that Israel holds 3.8 million Palestinians captive – they have no voice, no vote in Israeli government, would indicate that Israel is a democracy only in the sense that Apartheid South Africa was a democracy – that some voting goes on amongst certain self-privileged groups.

Yes you are so right on where Israeli water comes from. About 40% of Israel’s water supply comes from aquifers that underly the West Bank – chiefly the Tananim Aquifer. And by the same token, Palestinians in the West Bank are forbidden to use this water – their allotments are kept at minimums established many years ago – with no increases for population growth or development. Palestinians who want to plant a garden must file for a permit. Said permit is never approved nor denied – something right out of Kafka.

And Amen to you too on what made it possible for Israel to proclaim itself a free and civilized state. Mebosa says this with a straight face while ignoring all the crimes against humanity swept under the rug over the last sixty-some-odd years.

]]> By: Moz http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/03/bedouin-baby%e2%80%99s-power-struggle-with-israel/#comment-41391 Moz Thu, 19 Mar 2009 12:44:17 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=7281#comment-41391 Amen Barry, Amen. Mebosa, you're right in as much as he wouldn't get away with "slagging off" his hosts. You're also right that Israel is a democracy (small d intentional). You must be aware that democracy, if it is to be viable, has to allow dissent and protest. It must allow people to say what they want if they are doing it lawfully. I would suggest that Cook is showing how effective Israeli democracy is by the very fact he lives there unmolested by the Authorities and says what he thinks (right or wrong). BTW using Israeli water? Do you know where most Israeli water comes from? The Palestinian Territories, oh yes. Ungrateful Israelis, sitting on Palestinian land, drinking Palestinian water, eating Palestinian falafel. Who else but the Palestinians would put up with that?! It seems Israeli's might do well to remember what was scarificed by the Palestinians so that they (and the Mebosa's of the world) could lecture the rest of us on them being the only democracy in the Middle East. Chutzpah indeed! Amen Barry, Amen.

Mebosa, you’re right in as much as he wouldn’t get away with “slagging off” his hosts. You’re also right that Israel is a democracy (small d intentional).
You must be aware that democracy, if it is to be viable, has to allow dissent and protest. It must allow people to say what they want if they are doing it lawfully. I would suggest that Cook is showing how effective Israeli democracy is by the very fact he lives there unmolested by the Authorities and says what he thinks (right or wrong).

BTW using Israeli water?

Do you know where most Israeli water comes from? The Palestinian Territories, oh yes.

Ungrateful Israelis, sitting on Palestinian land, drinking Palestinian water, eating Palestinian falafel. Who else but the Palestinians would put up with that?! It seems Israeli’s might do well to remember what was scarificed by the Palestinians so that they (and the Mebosa’s of the world) could lecture the rest of us on them being the only democracy in the Middle East.

Chutzpah indeed!

]]> By: jjboulas http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/03/bedouin-baby%e2%80%99s-power-struggle-with-israel/#comment-41390 jjboulas Thu, 19 Mar 2009 11:45:11 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=7281#comment-41390 mebosa Admitely Jonathan's aim is to report the status of arab/palestinian citicens within Israel. The facts he reports, however, he does not make up. They are the deed of the officialdom within Israel. If you do not like the facts killing the messager will not change them. JJBoulas mebosa

Admitely Jonathan’s aim is to report the status of arab/palestinian citicens within Israel. The facts he reports, however, he does not make up. They are the deed of the officialdom within Israel.
If you do not like the facts killing the messager will not change them.

JJBoulas

]]> By: LD http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/03/bedouin-baby%e2%80%99s-power-struggle-with-israel/#comment-41355 LD Wed, 18 Mar 2009 21:12:13 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=7281#comment-41355 It's pathetic how Zionists take criticism of Israel so personally. So instead of questioning the validity of this article, Mebosa cries about ungratefulness. What a sanctimonious douche. He/She is no different from the racist Whites who, during the Civil Rights era, told Blacks to stop complaining because they weren't slaves anymore. Israel is a vandal State. A terrorist State. It’s pathetic how Zionists take criticism of Israel so personally. So instead of questioning the validity of this article, Mebosa cries about ungratefulness.

What a sanctimonious douche.

He/She is no different from the racist Whites who, during the Civil Rights era, told Blacks to stop complaining because they weren’t slaves anymore.

Israel is a vandal State. A terrorist State.

]]> By: Barry99 http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/03/bedouin-baby%e2%80%99s-power-struggle-with-israel/#comment-41352 Barry99 Wed, 18 Mar 2009 21:00:39 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=7281#comment-41352 Mebosa - Probably safe to say that Jonathan, not being a Palestinian, uses Jewish water, Jewish electricity, Jewish health services, protected (harassed?) by Jewish police and army, drives on Jewish roads. But he supports a democratic state of ALL its citizens! - not the rump state you support. Mebosa – Probably safe to say that Jonathan, not being a Palestinian, uses Jewish water, Jewish electricity, Jewish health services, protected (harassed?) by Jewish police and army, drives on Jewish roads. But he supports a democratic state of ALL its citizens! – not the rump state you support.

]]> By: mebosa ritchie http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/03/bedouin-baby%e2%80%99s-power-struggle-with-israel/#comment-41347 mebosa ritchie Wed, 18 Mar 2009 19:45:45 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=7281#comment-41347 well once a week jonathan spews out a crap article condemning israel as being a terrible country. keep going jonathan. you are fortunate that you live in israel,using israeli water,israeli electicity,israeli health services,protected by israeli police and the israeli army,driving on israeli roads and all the time slagging off your hosts. you live in a free democracy try doing the same i.e constantly slagging off your hosts,in any other mid east countries and see how long you would last. well once a week jonathan spews out a crap article condemning israel as being a terrible country.
keep going jonathan. you are fortunate that you live in israel,using israeli water,israeli electicity,israeli health services,protected by israeli police and the israeli army,driving on israeli roads and all the time slagging off your hosts.
you live in a free democracy
try doing the same i.e constantly slagging off your hosts,in any other mid east countries and see how long you would last.

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