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		<title>By: BILL LAWRENCE</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/03/10-ways-to-kill-fatah/#comment-40080</link>
		<dc:creator>BILL LAWRENCE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 21:32:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MY BLACK PRESIDENT SUPPORTS APARTHEID!!!</description>
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		<title>By: bozh</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/03/10-ways-to-kill-fatah/#comment-40012</link>
		<dc:creator>bozh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 15:08:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>al  mutanabi,
i have missed the sentence in question.  like Barry, i too say that  &#039;zionists&#039;   know/feel  they want at least what they have + occupy now.
even so, israel wld forever remain a total  dependency of judeo-chistian alliance.
and every land seeks -and may one day enjoy- interdependence. thnx</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>al  mutanabi,<br />
i have missed the sentence in question.  like Barry, i too say that  &#8216;zionists&#8217;   know/feel  they want at least what they have + occupy now.<br />
even so, israel wld forever remain a total  dependency of judeo-chistian alliance.<br />
and every land seeks -and may one day enjoy- interdependence. thnx</p>
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		<title>By: Barry</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/03/10-ways-to-kill-fatah/#comment-39975</link>
		<dc:creator>Barry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 00:54:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>al Mutanabi - You are of course correct.  I was examining Avnery&#039;s article through a different lens.  Avnery is correct in the sense that many Israeli Jews do indeed live in a deluded altered consciousness.  Yet, many other Israelis including all their leadership, know better - they have consciously chosen the path of conquer, subjugate, and annihilate.  And you are right about Egypt with the 1973 War.  It was then, after having humiliated Egypt in 1967, that Israel realized that Egypt would NEVER give up the Sinai to Israel.  So Israel came to the table - and in so doing, spared itself another war with Egypt while gaining Egyptian abandonment of the Palestinian cause.  Sadat paid for that betrayal with his life.  

mebosa - There are child molesters in prison who were otherwise good citizens.  Israel cannot buy its way out of its mal-socialized condition with good deeds.  No more than did any science coming out of Nazi Germany.  And you should remember that US welfare funds and diplomatic cover in UN enables Israel to conduct medical research.  Otherwise it would have to kill with its own money - and there&#039;d be little left for medical breakthroughs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>al Mutanabi &#8211; You are of course correct.  I was examining Avnery&#8217;s article through a different lens.  Avnery is correct in the sense that many Israeli Jews do indeed live in a deluded altered consciousness.  Yet, many other Israelis including all their leadership, know better &#8211; they have consciously chosen the path of conquer, subjugate, and annihilate.  And you are right about Egypt with the 1973 War.  It was then, after having humiliated Egypt in 1967, that Israel realized that Egypt would NEVER give up the Sinai to Israel.  So Israel came to the table &#8211; and in so doing, spared itself another war with Egypt while gaining Egyptian abandonment of the Palestinian cause.  Sadat paid for that betrayal with his life.  </p>
<p>mebosa &#8211; There are child molesters in prison who were otherwise good citizens.  Israel cannot buy its way out of its mal-socialized condition with good deeds.  No more than did any science coming out of Nazi Germany.  And you should remember that US welfare funds and diplomatic cover in UN enables Israel to conduct medical research.  Otherwise it would have to kill with its own money &#8211; and there&#8217;d be little left for medical breakthroughs.</p>
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		<title>By: Al Mutanabi</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/03/10-ways-to-kill-fatah/#comment-39964</link>
		<dc:creator>Al Mutanabi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 00:03:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I normally appreciate Mr. Avnery’s honest analysis, this particular piece is disingenuous and delusional…excusing the failure to achieve a peace on a subconscious desire.
“It can go on only because it conforms with a deep-seated desire, which most people are not conscious of or do not want to admit: to hold on to all of Eretz Israel and not to allow a Palestinian state to come into being.”
It is hardly a unconscious, but conforms very well with the Zionist intentions and policies determined after the 1967 war…how to keep the territories but get rid of the rightful owners, the indigenous population of Palestine. Even in going to Oslo, the Zionist government was proclaiming that there was no room for another Arab country between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean. Indeed, anytime the Palestinians or Arabs have indicated an inclination toward a peace agreements that Israeli’s find a way to quell it. These have now been recognized by some as Palestinian “peace offensives”.
The conclusion that Israeli’s only understand the language of force has long been established. The peace with Egypt was driven from this position. After 1973 it was pretty clear that Egypt would soon become quite a formidable force. The exploration of peace through the Turks with the Syrians (that were recently broken off) were likely driven by similar concerns, the threat versus benefit equation is no longer favorable.
No Uri, the real reason for deflecting the peace initiatives of course is avarice, the desire to continue to steal another people’s lands and resources, just as was done in the late 1900’s, except on the 21st century ethnic cleansing is not an option, and so the war of attrition in the form of an Apartheid state. The only indicator one needs to come to such a conclusion is the continuing expansion of settlements. To call it an “unconscious desire” is simply not being honest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I normally appreciate Mr. Avnery’s honest analysis, this particular piece is disingenuous and delusional…excusing the failure to achieve a peace on a subconscious desire.<br />
“It can go on only because it conforms with a deep-seated desire, which most people are not conscious of or do not want to admit: to hold on to all of Eretz Israel and not to allow a Palestinian state to come into being.”<br />
It is hardly a unconscious, but conforms very well with the Zionist intentions and policies determined after the 1967 war…how to keep the territories but get rid of the rightful owners, the indigenous population of Palestine. Even in going to Oslo, the Zionist government was proclaiming that there was no room for another Arab country between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean. Indeed, anytime the Palestinians or Arabs have indicated an inclination toward a peace agreements that Israeli’s find a way to quell it. These have now been recognized by some as Palestinian “peace offensives”.<br />
The conclusion that Israeli’s only understand the language of force has long been established. The peace with Egypt was driven from this position. After 1973 it was pretty clear that Egypt would soon become quite a formidable force. The exploration of peace through the Turks with the Syrians (that were recently broken off) were likely driven by similar concerns, the threat versus benefit equation is no longer favorable.<br />
No Uri, the real reason for deflecting the peace initiatives of course is avarice, the desire to continue to steal another people’s lands and resources, just as was done in the late 1900’s, except on the 21st century ethnic cleansing is not an option, and so the war of attrition in the form of an Apartheid state. The only indicator one needs to come to such a conclusion is the continuing expansion of settlements. To call it an “unconscious desire” is simply not being honest.</p>
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		<title>By: mebosa ritchie</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/03/10-ways-to-kill-fatah/#comment-39962</link>
		<dc:creator>mebosa ritchie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 23:58:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>more good news from israel

Cancer kills our loved ones, it tears lives apart. According to the American Cancer Society, one in every four American deaths can be blamed on the disease. Although millions of dollars worth of research money goes into fighting it, it always seems to outwit us. For some reason, chemotherapy works to treat cancer, but not all of the time, and not all cancers. 

After a chemotherapy treatment, some resistant cancer cells get left behind and can go on to metastasize, begging the million-dollar question: why do some cancer cells survive a chemo blast while others get wiped out? Now, in a world?s first, scientists from the Weizmann Institute of Science in Israel may have the tool that gives us the answers. 

Doctoral student Ariel Cohen, together with Naama Geva-Zatorsky and Eran Eden from Prof. Uri Alon?s lab at the Molecular Cell Biology Department, have found a way to tag and analyze thousands of cells in our body, to show how chemotherapy will attack. 

The patented tool, recently highlighted in Science, is based on imaging and analyzing proteins. It promises to be the ultimate tool for cancer drug developers and those working in basic research. 

Opening a window on the cell 

&quot;It&#039;s a novel and new approach on how to look at biology,&quot; says Cohen. &quot;We&#039;ve developed a technology to really look into the cells. Biology [as a discipline] opens small patches in a closed room. It&#039;s like a house that&#039;s closed, with a window that opens here and there and allows you to see only a little of what?s going on. Our tool opens the whole wall. It lets you look at what&#039;s going on in the whole cell,&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>more good news from israel</p>
<p>Cancer kills our loved ones, it tears lives apart. According to the American Cancer Society, one in every four American deaths can be blamed on the disease. Although millions of dollars worth of research money goes into fighting it, it always seems to outwit us. For some reason, chemotherapy works to treat cancer, but not all of the time, and not all cancers. </p>
<p>After a chemotherapy treatment, some resistant cancer cells get left behind and can go on to metastasize, begging the million-dollar question: why do some cancer cells survive a chemo blast while others get wiped out? Now, in a world?s first, scientists from the Weizmann Institute of Science in Israel may have the tool that gives us the answers. </p>
<p>Doctoral student Ariel Cohen, together with Naama Geva-Zatorsky and Eran Eden from Prof. Uri Alon?s lab at the Molecular Cell Biology Department, have found a way to tag and analyze thousands of cells in our body, to show how chemotherapy will attack. </p>
<p>The patented tool, recently highlighted in Science, is based on imaging and analyzing proteins. It promises to be the ultimate tool for cancer drug developers and those working in basic research. </p>
<p>Opening a window on the cell </p>
<p>&#8220;It&#8217;s a novel and new approach on how to look at biology,&#8221; says Cohen. &#8220;We&#8217;ve developed a technology to really look into the cells. Biology [as a discipline] opens small patches in a closed room. It&#8217;s like a house that&#8217;s closed, with a window that opens here and there and allows you to see only a little of what?s going on. Our tool opens the whole wall. It lets you look at what&#8217;s going on in the whole cell,&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: bozh</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/03/10-ways-to-kill-fatah/#comment-39922</link>
		<dc:creator>bozh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 18:43:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>about not having a charismatic leader being of no import to resistance of  the  &#039;zionist&#039;  quest?
tito was unheard of until &#039;41 and thus it made not a bit of difference whether he was charismatic or not.
yet people cried when he died in ?85.
getting to being charismatic is a process and not a thing or essense.
 ghandi became better known as UK was weakening and indian aspiration for self-rule rose.

and believe me, a leader like peres or ugly meir,  with judeo-christian alliance onside,  WMD, F-16s, etc., cld have even been hated for all the diff it wld have made.

armed resistance, in my judgment, is less propitious.  i conclude firmly that whatever US/Europe wants, the soyuz get&#039;s it.

but killing/maiming/imprisoning peaceful people wld at least a tad slow dwn land theft and minimize other crimes.

and bide time. there is warming that might make palestine inhabiatable.  more &#039;jews&#039; might speak out. there is wmd. more people who sat on fence begin to speak out against israel; maybe a commet might strike isr.

and, of course, there may be a god or gods. thnx.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>about not having a charismatic leader being of no import to resistance of  the  &#8216;zionist&#8217;  quest?<br />
tito was unheard of until &#8217;41 and thus it made not a bit of difference whether he was charismatic or not.<br />
yet people cried when he died in ?85.<br />
getting to being charismatic is a process and not a thing or essense.<br />
 ghandi became better known as UK was weakening and indian aspiration for self-rule rose.</p>
<p>and believe me, a leader like peres or ugly meir,  with judeo-christian alliance onside,  WMD, F-16s, etc., cld have even been hated for all the diff it wld have made.</p>
<p>armed resistance, in my judgment, is less propitious.  i conclude firmly that whatever US/Europe wants, the soyuz get&#8217;s it.</p>
<p>but killing/maiming/imprisoning peaceful people wld at least a tad slow dwn land theft and minimize other crimes.</p>
<p>and bide time. there is warming that might make palestine inhabiatable.  more &#8216;jews&#8217; might speak out. there is wmd. more people who sat on fence begin to speak out against israel; maybe a commet might strike isr.</p>
<p>and, of course, there may be a god or gods. thnx.</p>
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		<title>By: Barry</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/03/10-ways-to-kill-fatah/#comment-39912</link>
		<dc:creator>Barry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 16:35:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As usual Avnery, (regarded in Israel as a war hero for earlier battle exploits) is on the money.  He should have just added that Israel must take its colonists and troops (and Apartheid Wall) out of Palestine.  That&#039;s the minimum.  Outside of that, Avnery&#039;s account of Israeli political behavior and practice is nuanced and accurate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As usual Avnery, (regarded in Israel as a war hero for earlier battle exploits) is on the money.  He should have just added that Israel must take its colonists and troops (and Apartheid Wall) out of Palestine.  That&#8217;s the minimum.  Outside of that, Avnery&#8217;s account of Israeli political behavior and practice is nuanced and accurate.</p>
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