The peak of German intellectual culture: Goethe, Kant, Fichte, Hegel, Marx, Wagner, Schopenhauer, Nietzsche, Wittgenstein, Heidegger… And then WWII and the reshaping of the national identity.

No slouches there… In fact some of the most amazing minds that have ever extended themselves into recorded thought.

Oh, and Mozart may have been Austrian, but so was Hitler.

By the way, Mozart was Austrian.
The German rocket scientists came to America because it was better than the alternative. Werner von Braun was hardly a hero, but he was a good PR man and would do whatever it would take to build his rockets. My father worked with them, by the way, and he was never too impressed with von Braun.

People tell themselves the same stories over and over again. If you don’t like the stories, there are plenty of ways to find new ones. Sitting around and complaining about the same old stories just isn’t that productive.

Germany had more Nobel Prizes than any country in the world through 1945. Germans led the world in science and engineeering for over a century. They gave the world Beethoven, Mozart and Bach. The USA got its space program and jet from the Germans. They brought the German rocket scientists to the USA to build their rockets and brought the jet back from Germany so they could replicate it. The USA got its pharmaceutical industry from Germany. They stole the German companies US divisions from Schering and Merck during the world wars and those are the USA’s biggest pharmaceutical companies today. But in the bookstores the German history shelf contains a shelf of books about NAZIS and nothing else.

Finkelstein is another example. His books are bestsellers in some foreign countries. He’s never once been invited to speak on a television program or to write an article for a newspaper. But that filthy pig Thomas Friedman gets to spew his hate every day in the New York Times.

In addition, I have noticed whenever there is killing of Palestinian in the occupied land, PBS airs the WWII films. Lately, during the Gaza holocaust PBS almost daily showed WWII series to have peoples’ mind focused on WWII holocaust. On the other hand, there was Obama and other officials who kept their silence during the Gaza genocide and said nothing against Israel war crimes. Major media followed the official line that ‘Israel has a right to self defense.” PBS followed the same line.

If you type in Holocaust museum you will see that in addition to LA and Washington, Dallas, Houston, Southwest Florida, El Paso and many, many other cities in the US have at least one Holocaust museum.

The holocaust is discussed everyday. Thats a fact and you must have your head up your ass if you don’t know this. This year there were about five movies made about the holocaust. Kate Winslet won best actress for her part in “The Reader”, a hollywood holocaust movie. How many movies were made about slavery or the genocide of the American Indian this year?

If you had the intelligence you could have been a lawyer.

I responded: By the way, the next time you’re in Boston, visit the Irish Famine Memorial.

You wrote: “The Anacostia Museum also is not a memorial. So, what does it have to do with our discussion?”
It’s called a Holocaust MUSEUM in DC, not memorial.

Please take the time to connect the dots. You don’t seem to be aware of your own comments.

You also wrote: “That would take space or time away from a news broadcast where they want to talk about the holocaust, which is a subject discussed every day in the media.”
This is hyperbole. The irony being that the Holocaust is in fact discussed obsessively every day on this website.

I’ve been to the Smithsonian. I read major newspapers every day. Do you?From what I remember, the Smithsonian has museums, not memorials to suffering, which is precisely what the holocaust museum is. A memorial to suffering, that jewish groups made sure only included Jews and excluded everyone else. So, thats great that you know so much about museums. Now come back to the dicsussion on memorials which the holocaust museum is and the Smithsonian and Heye is not.

As for having my head up my ass–I have a degree in Art History with a concentration in Museum Studies. I have worked in galleries and a university museum so I know what I’m talking about here. You do not, which is why you think it’s hypocritical to have a Holocaust Museum in America.
If you want to continue on insisting you know the state of museums and memorials and what the world thinks of them, by all means continue. I could use a laugh.

As I mentioned, I am not defending much of anything here. You made a very misinformed statement and I simply tried to explain to you why there would be no Native American memorial in Germany. Apparently, this was too much common sense for you.

The fact that jews have influence does not alter the fact that its hypocritical and ridiculous to have a memorial to their suffering in Europe located in this country. Having a memorial to Native Americans in Germany makes as much sense.

So at least you recognize the problem is that Jewish groups have created this hypocritical situation in the USA. Other people come here to become Americans. So rather than break up and lobby for other ridiculous memorials, Americans have to lobby against jewish groups such as AIPAC and the ADL that lobby for holocaust recognition, attacking foreign countries like Iran and to get the USA to supply Israel with jets so they can massacre Palestinians. Your suggestion to organize was the first thing you’ve said that makes sense.

Read Shabnam’s statement above where he explains how the jewish groups prevented others being recognized in the holocaust museum. You clearly are out of your realm here. That is why you defend the USA’s hypocritical and ridiculous notion of recognizing the suffering of Jews that suffered in Europe, but no one else suffering and ignoring the atrocities the USA committed. You need to read more, or at least learn how to read.

You’re welcome. More than 50 million people died in WW II. About 6 million Jews and 50 million gentiles. 25 million Soviets and 8 million Germans.

WW II started 20 years after WW I ended and what started the war had almost nothing to do with Jews. It was about land that was taken from Germany and placing millions of Germans in foreign countries. Jews had an interest in persuading Britain and the USA to attack Germany, but these same countries fought Germany in WW I when anti-semitism had nothing to do with the war.

History has been distorted by the coverage of the suffering of jews so that now many people think thats what the war was about. The Americans and British committed their own atrocities against Germans. But they are also guilty of supporting the biggest mass murderer – Stalin. Stalin relocated, killed or shipped off to Siberia huge numbers of Latvians, Estonians and Lithuanians , many never to be seen again. Stalin’s NKVD whose leader was Jewish (as were many people in Stalin’s Gov’t) committed awful atrocities in the Baltic countries. So much so, that Latvians Estonians and Lithuanians joined up with the German army to fight the Soviets. There is no American memorial for these peoples suffering. The Soviets killed 10,000 Polish officers and members of the Polish Intelligentsia and they tried to blame it on Germany. In 1991 the Russian leadership admitted their country had done this. Just last month, two thousand German civilians were found in what is now part of Poland (formerly Marburg, Germany). Their skulls showed they had been shot through the head. This atrocity was perpetrated by Poles or Soviets. They are pretty sure it was the Soviets. Many people suffered in the war and the allies perpetrated their share of atrocities.