Comments on: The Gaza War Strengthened Israel’s Far Right http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/02/the-gaza-war-strengthened-israels-far-right/ a radical newsletter in the struggle for peace and social justice Thu, 08 Dec 2011 15:07:30 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Shabnam http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/02/the-gaza-war-strengthened-israels-far-right/#comment-39628 Shabnam Thu, 26 Feb 2009 09:13:20 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=6922#comment-39628 (Hamas yet to agree to Quartet’s three demands - renounce violence, recognition of Israel, and honoring past diplomatic agreements) Zionist propagandists are so desperate after the Gaza Holocaust that they thing must hide their true face as a mass murderers and toddler killers to survive in order to establish ‘the greater Israel’ according to a MYTH copied from a man made BIBLE using Oded Yinon’s instruction found in “A strategy for Israel in the Nineteen Eighties.” They repeat these lies without realizing that they have already been exposed on the air over and over. The LIE that Hamas must renounce ‘violence’ and ‘recognize Israel’ without require ring the occupier recognition of an existing owner of the land before colonists arrival into the region is amazing. Thus, Norman Finklestein has exposed their lies during the GAZA Holocaust: {Israel’s main goal in the Gaza slaughter was to fend off the latest threat posed by Palestinian moderation. For the past three decades the international community has consistently supported a settlement of the Israel-Palestine conflict that calls for two states based on a full Israeli withdrawal to its June 1967 border, and a “just resolution” of the refugee question based on the right of return and compensation. The vote on the annual U.N. General Assembly resolution, “Peaceful Settlement of the Question of Palestine,” supporting these terms for resolving the conflict in 2008 was 164 in favor, 7 against (Israel, United States, Australia, Marshall Islands, Micronesia, Nauru, Palau), and 3 abstentions. … For example, in March 2008 Khalid Mishal, head of Hamas’s Political Bureau, stated in an interview: There is an opportunity to achieve a Palestinian national consensus on a political program based on the 1967 borders, and this is an exceptional circumstance, in which most Palestinian forces, including Hamas, accept a state on the 1967 borders….There is also an Arab consensus on this demand, and this is a historic situation. …Israel is fully cognizant that the Hamas Charter is not an insurmountable obstacle to a two-state settlement on the June 1967 border.} http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFD5e5ZLSqg&feature=related (Hamas yet to agree to Quartet’s three demands – renounce violence, recognition of Israel, and honoring past diplomatic agreements)
Zionist propagandists are so desperate after the Gaza Holocaust that they thing must hide their true face as a mass murderers and toddler killers to survive in order to establish ‘the greater Israel’ according to a MYTH copied from a man made BIBLE using Oded Yinon’s instruction found in “A strategy for Israel in the Nineteen Eighties.” They repeat these lies without realizing that they have already been exposed on the air over and over. The LIE that Hamas must renounce ‘violence’ and ‘recognize Israel’ without require ring the occupier recognition of an existing owner of the land before colonists arrival into the region is amazing. Thus, Norman Finklestein has exposed their lies during the GAZA Holocaust:

{Israel’s main goal in the Gaza slaughter was to fend off the latest threat posed by Palestinian moderation. For the past three decades the international community has consistently supported a settlement of the Israel-Palestine conflict that calls for two states based on a full Israeli withdrawal to its June 1967 border, and a “just resolution” of the refugee question based on the right of return and compensation. The vote on the annual U.N. General Assembly resolution, “Peaceful Settlement of the Question of Palestine,” supporting these terms for resolving the conflict in 2008 was 164 in favor, 7 against (Israel, United States, Australia, Marshall Islands, Micronesia, Nauru, Palau), and 3 abstentions. … For example, in March 2008 Khalid Mishal, head of Hamas’s Political Bureau, stated in an interview:
There is an opportunity to achieve a Palestinian national consensus on a political program based on the 1967 borders, and this is an exceptional circumstance, in which most Palestinian forces, including Hamas, accept a state on the 1967 borders….There is also an Arab consensus on this demand, and this is a historic situation. …Israel is fully cognizant that the Hamas Charter is not an insurmountable obstacle to a two-state settlement on the June 1967 border.}

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFD5e5ZLSqg&feature=related

]]> By: mary http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/02/the-gaza-war-strengthened-israels-far-right/#comment-39625 mary Thu, 26 Feb 2009 08:09:52 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=6922#comment-39625 Here us a useful chronology of events in Gaza from June 19 2008 leading up to Cast Lead in December. http://www.freegaza.org/en/home/768-gaza-chronology-june-19-december-27-2008 Here us a useful chronology of events in Gaza from June 19 2008 leading up to Cast Lead in December.

http://www.freegaza.org/en/home/768-gaza-chronology-june-19-december-27-2008

]]> By: Jacob http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/02/the-gaza-war-strengthened-israels-far-right/#comment-39622 Jacob Thu, 26 Feb 2009 07:44:50 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=6922#comment-39622 "Israelis turned their backs on the notion that the conflict with the Palestinians must be solved by diplomacy." I suppose that failed Land for Peace initiatives had nothing to do with this, nor did the increased violence brought on BY diplomatic measures (Oslo, Gaza withdrawl). I also suppose that history and memory doesn't play into this either, and that a continued spit-in-your-face approach by radical militants towards honoring past DIPLOMATIC agreements has any direct play into the Israelis decision. (Hamas yet to agree to Quartet's three demands - renounce violence, recognition of Israel, and honoring past diplomatic agreements) But I suppose just turning their shoulders because they want a good clean fight is the only conclusion! “Israelis turned their backs on the notion that the conflict with the Palestinians must be solved by diplomacy.”

I suppose that failed Land for Peace initiatives had nothing to do with this, nor did the increased violence brought on BY diplomatic measures (Oslo, Gaza withdrawl). I also suppose that history and memory doesn’t play into this either, and that a continued spit-in-your-face approach by radical militants towards honoring past DIPLOMATIC agreements has any direct play into the Israelis decision. (Hamas yet to agree to Quartet’s three demands – renounce violence, recognition of Israel, and honoring past diplomatic agreements) But I suppose just turning their shoulders because they want a good clean fight is the only conclusion!

]]> By: Barry http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/02/the-gaza-war-strengthened-israels-far-right/#comment-39609 Barry Thu, 26 Feb 2009 02:48:02 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=6922#comment-39609 Gideon - Ah yes, if only the Jews had had a Gandhi, there'd have been no Holocaust. Now that you know full well that there is no place for you to stand, you just get sillier and sillier. Gideon – Ah yes, if only the Jews had had a Gandhi, there’d have been no Holocaust.

Now that you know full well that there is no place for you to stand, you just get sillier and sillier.

]]> By: bozh http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/02/the-gaza-war-strengthened-israels-far-right/#comment-39602 bozh Thu, 26 Feb 2009 01:03:42 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=6922#comment-39602 total nonviolent resistance to pal'ns way of life by israel will bring a good peace. it is needless to iterate, but i will anyway, that occupation; daily shooting at kids, farmers, and stealing land represents a criminal behavior. nevertheless, for a decade or so i have advocated that pal'ns do not resist criminal behavior by violence, because they'd lose land either way, the eoccupation wld go on as well, but ?wld lose fewer people. thnx total nonviolent resistance to pal’ns way of life by israel will bring a good peace.

it is needless to iterate, but i will anyway, that occupation; daily shooting at kids, farmers, and stealing land represents a criminal behavior.

nevertheless, for a decade or so i have advocated that pal’ns do not resist criminal behavior by violence, because they’d lose land either way, the eoccupation wld go on as well, but ?wld lose fewer people.
thnx

]]> By: Gideon http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/02/the-gaza-war-strengthened-israels-far-right/#comment-39600 Gideon Thu, 26 Feb 2009 00:42:32 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=6922#comment-39600 Palestinians adoption of Gandhi’s non-violence will prevent next war! Gaza first! Palestinians adoption of Gandhi’s total non-violence, non-violent civil disobedience, economic self-reliance and expanding women rights as a new strategy to achieving independence and should prevent the next war. Gaza first! Can they do it? I will allow many more Israelis to move Left. Palestinians adoption of Gandhi’s non-violence will prevent next war!
Gaza first!

Palestinians adoption of Gandhi’s total non-violence, non-violent civil disobedience, economic self-reliance and expanding women rights as a new strategy to achieving independence and should prevent the next war.

Gaza first!

Can they do it?

I will allow many more Israelis to move Left.

]]> By: Michael Kenny http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/02/the-gaza-war-strengthened-israels-far-right/#comment-39580 Michael Kenny Wed, 25 Feb 2009 21:14:53 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=6922#comment-39580 "Kadima and Labor, timed the offensive prior to elections largely in order to gain popularity, but Lieberman reaped the fruits." Yes, but the fruit he reaped was the fruit of the offensive's defeat and the PR disaster it entailed. That the offensive was condemned to fail from the outset and that the idea of slaughtering people as an electoral stunt would be viewed askance by the entire world doesn't seem to dawned on anyone in Israel. The offensive itself was a panic measure and its failure, quite naturally, panicked people even more. That, I think, explains the election result. Israel is stuck in the hole it dug for itself and the more it struggles to get out, the more it gets stuck. “Kadima and Labor, timed the offensive prior to elections largely in order to gain popularity, but Lieberman reaped the fruits.” Yes, but the fruit he reaped was the fruit of the offensive’s defeat and the PR disaster it entailed. That the offensive was condemned to fail from the outset and that the idea of slaughtering people as an electoral stunt would be viewed askance by the entire world doesn’t seem to dawned on anyone in Israel. The offensive itself was a panic measure and its failure, quite naturally, panicked people even more. That, I think, explains the election result. Israel is stuck in the hole it dug for itself and the more it struggles to get out, the more it gets stuck.

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