‘NUFF SAID. IF this country returned to Christianity as it’s guiding force, all these problems would go away. Some say that will NEVER happen. The Book of Revelation says they and all others who argree, are wrong. God keeps HIS Promises. Are you ready?

organizations are by nature divisive; internally and externally. Multitude of organizations that exist, as now situation proves, have not contributed much if anything to human understandings, cooperation, peaceability, necessary education, etc.
this may be one reason why oligarchs selves support many organizations.

The ‘education’ in canada and US is horrendous. Such an ‘education’ [by media, schooling, advertising, movies, tv, political lingo, jingoism] is now preparing {‘teaching’} that use of dirty small bombs to kill ‘terrorists’ wld be justifiable.

and now that pols are or appear to be frightened like never before, one can expect tightening even more the grip on control of the people.
Pols are on defensive; cornered like rats; thus, even more liable to be erratic, despotic.
Is it to late to start a party in US? I say no, never! But one wld risk assassination of individuals if a party wld be established.
perhaps nader is aware of this as well as greens. Greens is just another org and with one purpose in mind and not all goals as a party shld have.
basically, in US and elsewhere, one can have an asocialist [?fascist] and a socialist structure of society and governance.
In US, the structures are strongly antisocialist; i.e., anti healthcare, enlightenment, peace, etc.
if amers are unwilling or cannot change it, then that wld ensure that the despotic rule wld abide for decennia or even centennia.
eventually some revolt wld occur. tnx

I believe that America and our constitutional experiment was an exceptional and valid attempt to circumvent control from the oligarchs. I also believe that the experiment has failed miserably. Using the media as they most certainly have, and the propaganda that they create from government press releases, they have managed to convince the American people to rise against their own well-being. Quite amazing, if you think about it. Yet, they have.

And this circumvention could definitely not have come from “informed” human beings. Hence, keeping us “ill” informed has served their cause greatly. Now, they are struggling to reap what they thought they sowed and it is not working out quite as pleasingly as they hoped, yet it IS working out.

And the ONLY REASON THAT IT IS NOT IS BECAUSE WE FINALLY HAVE INFORMATION THAT DOESN’T COME FROM THEM!!!!!!!!!!

I don’t believe in God, as organized religion portrays him, but if I did, THANK GOD FOR THE INTERNET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Any President that Would Dare Oppose The Federal Reserve Gets Assassinated ….
Rothschild agents in 1791 formed the First Bank of the United States but intense opposition to foreign ownership by President Jefferson and others helped kill it by 1811. A Second Bank of the United States was formed in 1816 once again by Rothschild agents and this time they secured a 20-year charter. However, President Andrew Jackson was also opposed to foreign ownership and withdrew the federal deposits in 1832 as part of his plan to kill the bank charter in 1836.

An attempt to assassinate Jackson in 1834 left him wounded but more determined than ever to stop the central bank. Thirty years later President Lincoln refused to pay international bankers extremely high interest rates during the Civil War and ordered the printing of government bonds. With the help of Russian Czar Alexander II who also blocked a similar national bank from being set up in Russia by the international bankers they were able to survive the economic squeeze.

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Lincoln said, “The money powers prey upon the nation in times of peace and conspire against it in times of adversity….

Both Lincoln and Alexander II were assassinated. In 1881 James Garfield became president and he was dedicated to restoring the right of the federal government to issue money like Lincoln did in the Civil War and he was also assassinated….

Years later John F. Kennedy opposed a private national bank and was assassinated in 1963 and Ronald Reagan opposed a private national bank and in 1981 an attempt was made to assassinate him. Coincidence or not the opposition to a privately owned national bank was a common characteristic. … Source

Every time I watch the news (faux) or CSpan, I see these windbags in suits that attempt to confuse us while they attempt to console us. They are crooks, through and through. All of them.

Purge the system. That is what is necessary. Ban economists to some desolate island. Put politicians on a short leash. Restore the constitution with necessary amendments for term limits and zero contributions from anyone or any company. Bury capitalism in a deep dark cave. Restore our unalienable rights.

We live within an establishment designed by those that demand control. Their rule is through complexity,chaos and confusion. We waste a large portion of ourlives fulfilling needless duties and tasks for our masters. Simplicity, common sense and humanity are not the norm, and are shunned by those that rule, for they cannot operate within a system of honesty and transparency.

We must purge the system. Of all the evil and the evil ways that we have been taught to accept with our daily bread.

“Without the energy sources capable to support this growth, we could be doomed.”

I have to tweak this a bit by saying that without efficient and non-polluting, renewable energy sources capable of supporting this unprecedented human growth, we ARE doomed. As for our Mother, she’ll bounce back in her own, slow geologic time once we quit abusing her.

As for estimating the carrying capacity of the planet in respect to humans, until a complete collapse of our species, it’s nearly impossible to ascertain. Once again, responsible management of resources with techniques to curb and/or eliminate pollution and caustic industrial byproducts, along with the implementation of strategic, intelligent energy production, is the key.

Best to you.

and who is going to regualate it? answer tp that is also obvious: rich countries headed by world plutos.
in short, back to basics: interdependence and socialism for plutos and their supporters and independence/dependence and resulting poverty/death for the rest of us.thnx

Humans have the added problem of amplifying their limited capacity to exist. Humans, to exist in temperate and other locations on the plant must consume enormous amounts of resources. As with other creatures, there is depletion. With luck another source is found. But with Western civilization (and now as it moves across the planet), the incomparable need for fossil has become the major thrust of our existence on the planet. With 6 Billion people we have become ever more dependent on that energy source.

Our uneconomics of growth is not only about consumption, but about how many are consuming. The cheap technologies and energy has exploded the human population. Without the energy sources capable to support this growth, we could be doomed. Nature will in the end take care of this problem; unless we do something intentionally to reduce our strain on the planet.

The dream of ever increased capacity through technology requires super-planetary resources. If that were even possible the energy to get us there is more than we have.

We need to take what energy we do have to reduce and create a human society where growth is social and interpersonal and less material. We may have to migrate to places that are more accommodating as well.

Henry George does not call for population changes (there was no need back in the late 19th C). The carrying capacity of the planet, according to those who can deal with human needs and environmental capacity would be around 1.7 billion. The incredible growth spurt (think about it over a million years to reach 1.6 billion and than a whopping 6 billion in just 100 years! That’s just incredible) has created a major dilemma in sustaining the species, not only the human species but many other forms of life.

The point on all this is we can use our intelligence to do something about it or let reality come crashing down on us. It’s up to us to realize the choices. Population explosion was created by cheap fossil, which in turn gave us a cheap global food system. But there is a diminishing return on all of this.

we have survived for, let’s say, 500,000 yrs having never ever heard about any ism.
but once shammanism/mysticism/cultism (religion) arose, let’s say, 20,000 yrs ago we’ve had warfare, slavery, murder, serfdom, cannon fodder, abuse of power to this day.
to go on for centuries or even millennia.

interestingly enough, 5-10,000 yrs ago there may have been only about 100mn people on earth. so, there was ample water, fish, game, trees, and vast expanses of empty land.
so, as far that went, we didn’t need to wage all those wars millennia ago.

so, obviously shammanism (religion) was even then one factor in those wars as well as present wars.
that means we had no truth. for it wld have set us free. but we had the damn religion, tho.
and all hell broke loose. thnx

I enjoyed reading George’s Progress and Poverty last night, intro and conclusion. A very sensible, direct and eloquent antithesis to the economic status quo…surprisingly literary in its quality. Thanks for the recommendation.

The one thing I disagree with though Max, is that technology easily has the capacity to not only eliminate our dependence on fossil (if not at least drastically minimize it), and possibly perpetuate a more responsible approach to natural resource management. I don’t think we should look at the situation in extremes, such as decreasing population by 70%, although perhaps that is what’s needed most, I don’t want to make that call. However, without responsible management and oversight of said resources, we’re screwed either way, and now may already be too late. It’s all speculative anyway until a new approach is implemented either by force or by free will…the latter of which is most unlikely.

Best to you, Max.