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		<title>By: Don Hawkins</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/02/obama-administration-continues-us-military-global-dominance/#comment-39375</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Hawkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 01:50:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Many are trying to continue killing the truth&#039;s in the twenty first century and this time the lies that are immortal brings us to the truth&#039;s.</description>
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		<title>By: Ramsefall</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/02/obama-administration-continues-us-military-global-dominance/#comment-39374</link>
		<dc:creator>Ramsefall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 01:36:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Je te dis merci pour celui rigolé. And all this time I thought you were intentionally calling me Ramsesfall to be cute, I&#039;m still laughing. It doesn&#039;t bother me, fyi.

Ramsefall is the name of the 19th century Swedish legend who just happens to be my late, great x3 grandfather. My grandmother included an English translation in the genealogy book she wrote, but I couldn&#039;t find any additional info online in English. I adopted it to carry on his name, and I don&#039;t believe there are many in our nuclear family who are even aware of it. Also fyi :)

As always, best to you.

Still laughing from your anecdote, thank-you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Je te dis merci pour celui rigolé. And all this time I thought you were intentionally calling me Ramsesfall to be cute, I&#8217;m still laughing. It doesn&#8217;t bother me, fyi.</p>
<p>Ramsefall is the name of the 19th century Swedish legend who just happens to be my late, great x3 grandfather. My grandmother included an English translation in the genealogy book she wrote, but I couldn&#8217;t find any additional info online in English. I adopted it to carry on his name, and I don&#8217;t believe there are many in our nuclear family who are even aware of it. Also fyi :)</p>
<p>As always, best to you.</p>
<p>Still laughing from your anecdote, thank-you!</p>
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		<title>By: Tree</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/02/obama-administration-continues-us-military-global-dominance/#comment-39370</link>
		<dc:creator>Tree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 01:01:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark Twain had a lot of good things to say but often you are too cryptic for me, Don Hawkins.  I get the gist of your comments  but not the nuances.

I appreciate your comment, Ramsefall and I guess I&#039;d better pay close attention to screen names as well as my instincts and get your name right!  :-)
And here I was trying to figure out why you were interested in ancient Egypt and how exactly Ramses fell.  Duh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark Twain had a lot of good things to say but often you are too cryptic for me, Don Hawkins.  I get the gist of your comments  but not the nuances.</p>
<p>I appreciate your comment, Ramsefall and I guess I&#8217;d better pay close attention to screen names as well as my instincts and get your name right!  :-)<br />
And here I was trying to figure out why you were interested in ancient Egypt and how exactly Ramses fell.  Duh.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Hawkins</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/02/obama-administration-continues-us-military-global-dominance/#comment-39368</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Hawkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 00:18:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The history of our race, and each individual&#039;s experience, are sown thick with evidence that a truth is not hard to kill and that a lie told well is immortal. 
Mark Twain


    Many are trying to kill the truth in the twenty first century and this time the lie that is immortal brings us to the truth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The history of our race, and each individual&#8217;s experience, are sown thick with evidence that a truth is not hard to kill and that a lie told well is immortal.<br />
Mark Twain</p>
<p>    Many are trying to kill the truth in the twenty first century and this time the lie that is immortal brings us to the truth.</p>
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		<title>By: Ramsefall</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/02/obama-administration-continues-us-military-global-dominance/#comment-39366</link>
		<dc:creator>Ramsefall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Feb 2009 23:33:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tree,

I too have enjoyed some of DR&#039;s contributions in the past, and as such I&#039;m disappointed to see him adhere to a rather narrow, violent, and unsustainable view which only bolsters a senseless brotherhood like the military...most of which is too corrupt to take seriously.

I&#039;m not sure where you got the Ramsesfall from, but if you enjoy it, fine by me...seems to be somewhat tailored to your playful personality.

I like the point you make about staying clearheaded and listening to oneself -- a particularly relevant external affirmation for what my own personal experience has been confirming. So often things become over-analyzed as we see here on DV and the world in general, which leads to a faulty basis for rational decision making. 

Listening to oneself arrives from the heart, not the intellect which tends to blur the clearest and most obvious answers that one seeks. Thanks for confirming the validity of what I just shared earlier this afternoon with a friend of mine who&#039;s still Stateside.

As life and events around the world become even more accelerated, as if ascending an exponential curve, qualities which you&#039;ve mentioned will play an even more important role in our individual lives, and may also eventually affect the collective conscious of mankind.

Best to you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tree,</p>
<p>I too have enjoyed some of DR&#8217;s contributions in the past, and as such I&#8217;m disappointed to see him adhere to a rather narrow, violent, and unsustainable view which only bolsters a senseless brotherhood like the military&#8230;most of which is too corrupt to take seriously.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure where you got the Ramsesfall from, but if you enjoy it, fine by me&#8230;seems to be somewhat tailored to your playful personality.</p>
<p>I like the point you make about staying clearheaded and listening to oneself &#8212; a particularly relevant external affirmation for what my own personal experience has been confirming. So often things become over-analyzed as we see here on DV and the world in general, which leads to a faulty basis for rational decision making. </p>
<p>Listening to oneself arrives from the heart, not the intellect which tends to blur the clearest and most obvious answers that one seeks. Thanks for confirming the validity of what I just shared earlier this afternoon with a friend of mine who&#8217;s still Stateside.</p>
<p>As life and events around the world become even more accelerated, as if ascending an exponential curve, qualities which you&#8217;ve mentioned will play an even more important role in our individual lives, and may also eventually affect the collective conscious of mankind.</p>
<p>Best to you.</p>
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		<title>By: bozh</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/02/obama-administration-continues-us-military-global-dominance/#comment-39365</link>
		<dc:creator>bozh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Feb 2009 23:28:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>a lie, once evaluated as true,  is just as strong as a truth. if lies did not produce desired goal, clergy, politicos, litterati, and illuminati wld have stopped lying long ago.
but lies work. 
 i cannot lie nor steal tho i have been praying for decades to god to make me both a thief and a liar and to enjoy it. 
but god said to me, No, your not ready for that yet! thnx</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>a lie, once evaluated as true,  is just as strong as a truth. if lies did not produce desired goal, clergy, politicos, litterati, and illuminati wld have stopped lying long ago.<br />
but lies work.<br />
 i cannot lie nor steal tho i have been praying for decades to god to make me both a thief and a liar and to enjoy it.<br />
but god said to me, No, your not ready for that yet! thnx</p>
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		<title>By: Don Hawkins</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/02/obama-administration-continues-us-military-global-dominance/#comment-39363</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Hawkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Feb 2009 23:08:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh yes watch just the next few weeks these so called leaders living in that optical delusion of confusion.  When you don&#039;t face the problem that&#039;s what you get confusion.  Clearheaded is not the game they play.  More like lies done in a way to make you a believer.  We need to turn that around.  The truth the knowledge loud and clear.  We need to put those boots on and keep them on.  Lower tax&#039;s on the rich that&#039;s all you hear from many over and over again and you hear from these same people the American people will not stand for this, what.  It&#039;s very clever the way they do that and does one thing very well keep many in that optical delusion of confusion.  The problems are big and they are real and tax cut&#039;s for the rich will that do the trick?  Uh no and will trying to bring back the system that got us here do the trick uh no. Put those boots on people and keep them on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh yes watch just the next few weeks these so called leaders living in that optical delusion of confusion.  When you don&#8217;t face the problem that&#8217;s what you get confusion.  Clearheaded is not the game they play.  More like lies done in a way to make you a believer.  We need to turn that around.  The truth the knowledge loud and clear.  We need to put those boots on and keep them on.  Lower tax&#8217;s on the rich that&#8217;s all you hear from many over and over again and you hear from these same people the American people will not stand for this, what.  It&#8217;s very clever the way they do that and does one thing very well keep many in that optical delusion of confusion.  The problems are big and they are real and tax cut&#8217;s for the rich will that do the trick?  Uh no and will trying to bring back the system that got us here do the trick uh no. Put those boots on people and keep them on.</p>
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		<title>By: Tree</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/02/obama-administration-continues-us-military-global-dominance/#comment-39362</link>
		<dc:creator>Tree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Feb 2009 22:31:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I never thought of Danny Ray as being a chimpanzee.  I was enjoying our debate.

Ramsesfall, yes it can be confusing which is why it&#039;s so important to  stay clearheaded and listen to oneself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I never thought of Danny Ray as being a chimpanzee.  I was enjoying our debate.</p>
<p>Ramsesfall, yes it can be confusing which is why it&#8217;s so important to  stay clearheaded and listen to oneself.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Hawkins</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/02/obama-administration-continues-us-military-global-dominance/#comment-39360</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Hawkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Feb 2009 21:56:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great exchange of ideas and the time is now to put those boots on and hell let&#039;s sleep in them.  . 

“A lie is halfway around the world before the truth can get its boots on.” Twain</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great exchange of ideas and the time is now to put those boots on and hell let&#8217;s sleep in them.  . </p>
<p>“A lie is halfway around the world before the truth can get its boots on.” Twain</p>
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		<title>By: Ramsefall</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/02/obama-administration-continues-us-military-global-dominance/#comment-39354</link>
		<dc:creator>Ramsefall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Feb 2009 20:54:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tree, 

it&#039;s not just you, nor is it easy to understand with all the going-ons around us.

Danny Ray,

please extend a courteous hello to your fellow monkeys, and know that I personally would find it offensive to send any human to a re-education camp once humanity has reached its potential. And thank-you for confirming that notion I made of a false sense of security for the insecure.

Best to all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tree, </p>
<p>it&#8217;s not just you, nor is it easy to understand with all the going-ons around us.</p>
<p>Danny Ray,</p>
<p>please extend a courteous hello to your fellow monkeys, and know that I personally would find it offensive to send any human to a re-education camp once humanity has reached its potential. And thank-you for confirming that notion I made of a false sense of security for the insecure.</p>
<p>Best to all.</p>
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		<title>By: Tree</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/02/obama-administration-continues-us-military-global-dominance/#comment-39352</link>
		<dc:creator>Tree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Feb 2009 20:40:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Danny Ray, don&#039;t forget the orange jumper.  
I guess you didn&#039;t read my original reply to your comment?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Danny Ray, don&#8217;t forget the orange jumper.<br />
I guess you didn&#8217;t read my original reply to your comment?</p>
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		<title>By: Danny Ray</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/02/obama-administration-continues-us-military-global-dominance/#comment-39347</link>
		<dc:creator>Danny Ray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Feb 2009 19:26:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, so when you guys settle all the worlds problems with peace you can put me in a reeducation camp somewhere, may I suggust Git-Mo I have seen it and it is very nice maybe I could get the cell block near the beach, could you guys put in a good word for me? That would be the life, three hots and a cot and no worries.

Got to go train some of my fellow monkeys for a few days. Have a wonderful week.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, so when you guys settle all the worlds problems with peace you can put me in a reeducation camp somewhere, may I suggust Git-Mo I have seen it and it is very nice maybe I could get the cell block near the beach, could you guys put in a good word for me? That would be the life, three hots and a cot and no worries.</p>
<p>Got to go train some of my fellow monkeys for a few days. Have a wonderful week.</p>
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		<title>By: Tree</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/02/obama-administration-continues-us-military-global-dominance/#comment-39341</link>
		<dc:creator>Tree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Feb 2009 18:15:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ramsesfall, I&#039;m with you on the consciousness shift idea.  It happened to me in 2004 and I believe it&#039;s the next step for humanity, although maybe not for all, even if the potential is there for everyone.

I think  for many who go through this kind of awakening it means leaving behind everything that was familiar and loved for a life that can be hard to understand at times.  Or maybe that&#039;s just me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ramsesfall, I&#8217;m with you on the consciousness shift idea.  It happened to me in 2004 and I believe it&#8217;s the next step for humanity, although maybe not for all, even if the potential is there for everyone.</p>
<p>I think  for many who go through this kind of awakening it means leaving behind everything that was familiar and loved for a life that can be hard to understand at times.  Or maybe that&#8217;s just me.</p>
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		<title>By: Ramsefall</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/02/obama-administration-continues-us-military-global-dominance/#comment-39339</link>
		<dc:creator>Ramsefall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Feb 2009 17:54:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Conditioning often produces negative results, as we have seen over and over again, Tree. I&#039;m pleased that you confirmed my suspicion of not having the Y gene, as I based on your writing.

I think I&#039;ll now dare mention a truth regarding militaries and war for Danny Ray, in order to state the obvious, not to ruffle the feathers of patriotic birds. They are both for reassuring a false sense of security for people who are otherwise insecure and stuck in an extremely low, somewhat primal level of consciousness. When the consciousness shift takes place in the coming years, war mongers and gung-ho militarists will be left behind as they won&#039;t be able to adapt to a holistic and peaceful humanitarian existence.

Sorry Danny Ray, to the most minimal extent, but militarism is only a solution for groups of chimpanzees, not for more evolved and supposedly intelligent beings. To which of these two groups do you pledge allegiance? 

Peace will never be achieved through the barrel of a gun, but I already know that you find that impossible to believe. There&#039;s still time though for your eyes to open.

Best to you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Conditioning often produces negative results, as we have seen over and over again, Tree. I&#8217;m pleased that you confirmed my suspicion of not having the Y gene, as I based on your writing.</p>
<p>I think I&#8217;ll now dare mention a truth regarding militaries and war for Danny Ray, in order to state the obvious, not to ruffle the feathers of patriotic birds. They are both for reassuring a false sense of security for people who are otherwise insecure and stuck in an extremely low, somewhat primal level of consciousness. When the consciousness shift takes place in the coming years, war mongers and gung-ho militarists will be left behind as they won&#8217;t be able to adapt to a holistic and peaceful humanitarian existence.</p>
<p>Sorry Danny Ray, to the most minimal extent, but militarism is only a solution for groups of chimpanzees, not for more evolved and supposedly intelligent beings. To which of these two groups do you pledge allegiance? </p>
<p>Peace will never be achieved through the barrel of a gun, but I already know that you find that impossible to believe. There&#8217;s still time though for your eyes to open.</p>
<p>Best to you.</p>
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		<title>By: Tree</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/02/obama-administration-continues-us-military-global-dominance/#comment-39334</link>
		<dc:creator>Tree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Feb 2009 16:22:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>True, Ramsesfall.  There are so many people who are afraid of letting go of their ideas and stories.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>True, Ramsesfall.  There are so many people who are afraid of letting go of their ideas and stories.</p>
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		<title>By: Ramsefall</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/02/obama-administration-continues-us-military-global-dominance/#comment-39333</link>
		<dc:creator>Ramsefall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Feb 2009 16:21:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Danny Ray,

just pointing out one of your examples, &quot;1860 to 1865 America fought a horrible civil war, so that all Americans could be free.&quot; Yes, like any war, it was horrible. But, do you really believe that both sides of the Civil War were fighting for the freedom of all Amerikans? 

Each side fought for their own interests, and those interests didn&#039;t include freedom for blacks or the native Americans. It was a racially and politically divided war, therefore claiming the war was fought so that all &quot;Americans could be free&quot;, is an absurd proposal.

Regardless, best to you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Danny Ray,</p>
<p>just pointing out one of your examples, &#8220;1860 to 1865 America fought a horrible civil war, so that all Americans could be free.&#8221; Yes, like any war, it was horrible. But, do you really believe that both sides of the Civil War were fighting for the freedom of all Amerikans? </p>
<p>Each side fought for their own interests, and those interests didn&#8217;t include freedom for blacks or the native Americans. It was a racially and politically divided war, therefore claiming the war was fought so that all &#8220;Americans could be free&#8221;, is an absurd proposal.</p>
<p>Regardless, best to you.</p>
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		<title>By: Ramsefall</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/02/obama-administration-continues-us-military-global-dominance/#comment-39330</link>
		<dc:creator>Ramsefall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Feb 2009 16:11:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tree,

&quot;Furthermore, it did not create the first truly representative form of government. It created a government for wealthy land owning men.&quot;

...and Bingo was his name-o. You couldn&#039;t be more correct in this assessment. Unfortunately, there are still plenty of Usonians whose comfort level is disrupted by this variety of perspective. Too bad, so sad, for them.

Best to you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tree,</p>
<p>&#8220;Furthermore, it did not create the first truly representative form of government. It created a government for wealthy land owning men.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8230;and Bingo was his name-o. You couldn&#8217;t be more correct in this assessment. Unfortunately, there are still plenty of Usonians whose comfort level is disrupted by this variety of perspective. Too bad, so sad, for them.</p>
<p>Best to you.</p>
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		<title>By: Tree</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/02/obama-administration-continues-us-military-global-dominance/#comment-39322</link>
		<dc:creator>Tree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Feb 2009 13:21:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Danny Ray, it&#039;s a bit silly to play &quot;what if&quot; with history but I&#039;m going to throw a few things out there anyway.
You claim none of the things you listed would have changed without violence but the fact is, England abolished slavery years before America did and without a war.  So what if there had been no American Revolution?  We would have ended slavery years years before we did, women would have been able to vote years before we did, we may not have had Vietnam and we&#039;d have socialized health care and could sit around and bitch on Dissident Voice about our bad teeth and long queues.  Furthermore, it did not create the first truly representative form of government.  It created a government for wealthy land owning men.

What if the South had been allowed to break the US Constitution and secede?  I tend to think they would have suffered massive economic collapse and maybe out of that would have come a violent slave revolt.

The French Revolution?  1789 was nothing but a violent, murderous rampage.  The &quot;heroes&quot; of that revolution murdered thousands of people for no good reason.  And the monarchy was eventually reinstated for a time.  
The Russian Revolution brought about a system just as bad if not worse than the Tsarist system.

It&#039;s easy for me to be a pacifist because my pacifism isn&#039;t challenged. 
But violence brings more violence.  Great Britain used military might to colonize nearly the entire world, with the exception of the American colonies.  Now look at Africa, look at Gaza.  It&#039;s all connected.
I&#039;m not saying I have the answers I&#039;m just saying the way you propose  is definitely not the best way.  We need to get our military out of Iraq and Afghanistan and Pakistan and close our military bases around the world.  Empires rise and fall, I think there are other more important things to work on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Danny Ray, it&#8217;s a bit silly to play &#8220;what if&#8221; with history but I&#8217;m going to throw a few things out there anyway.<br />
You claim none of the things you listed would have changed without violence but the fact is, England abolished slavery years before America did and without a war.  So what if there had been no American Revolution?  We would have ended slavery years years before we did, women would have been able to vote years before we did, we may not have had Vietnam and we&#8217;d have socialized health care and could sit around and bitch on Dissident Voice about our bad teeth and long queues.  Furthermore, it did not create the first truly representative form of government.  It created a government for wealthy land owning men.</p>
<p>What if the South had been allowed to break the US Constitution and secede?  I tend to think they would have suffered massive economic collapse and maybe out of that would have come a violent slave revolt.</p>
<p>The French Revolution?  1789 was nothing but a violent, murderous rampage.  The &#8220;heroes&#8221; of that revolution murdered thousands of people for no good reason.  And the monarchy was eventually reinstated for a time.<br />
The Russian Revolution brought about a system just as bad if not worse than the Tsarist system.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s easy for me to be a pacifist because my pacifism isn&#8217;t challenged.<br />
But violence brings more violence.  Great Britain used military might to colonize nearly the entire world, with the exception of the American colonies.  Now look at Africa, look at Gaza.  It&#8217;s all connected.<br />
I&#8217;m not saying I have the answers I&#8217;m just saying the way you propose  is definitely not the best way.  We need to get our military out of Iraq and Afghanistan and Pakistan and close our military bases around the world.  Empires rise and fall, I think there are other more important things to work on.</p>
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		<title>By: Danny Ray</title>
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		<description>But none of these things would have been changed with out violence.</description>
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		<title>By: Danny Ray</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Feb 2009 02:28:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1626 The English civil war giving taking the divine right of kings away from kings and giving it to the people. 
Creating a flawed system but a working system with at least some input from the people.

1775 The American Revolution, establishing the first truly representative form of government, 

1789 The French revolution, The final death blow to unconstitutional  monarchy, Again it established a flawed system but a system none the less.

1800 to 1825 South American colonies fought for and gained independence from Spain. 

1830 Mexico fought for and gained independence from Spain. 

1860 to 1865 America fought a horrible civil war, so that all Americans could be free.

1917 to 1921 The Russian revolution freed the serfs from the Tsar. 

1939 to 1945 WWII freed the world from the most horrible regime ever.

1949 to 1957 the French Indochinese rebellion freeing South East Asia from French  colonial rule.

1975 The Peoples Republic of Viet Nam invaded Cambodia to free the people from the horrors of Pol Pot.

Here are these and there are a thousand more where people saw something horrible going on and said NO MORE. And not only did they admit that something was wrong but they were not afraid to shed a little blood to win the day againced evil.

The point is Tree ( And I Want you to know that I respect your pacifism) None of these evils would have been changed.  And believe me the American Civil War was hard to admit, my people were on the wrong side of that one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1626 The English civil war giving taking the divine right of kings away from kings and giving it to the people.<br />
Creating a flawed system but a working system with at least some input from the people.</p>
<p>1775 The American Revolution, establishing the first truly representative form of government, </p>
<p>1789 The French revolution, The final death blow to unconstitutional  monarchy, Again it established a flawed system but a system none the less.</p>
<p>1800 to 1825 South American colonies fought for and gained independence from Spain. </p>
<p>1830 Mexico fought for and gained independence from Spain. </p>
<p>1860 to 1865 America fought a horrible civil war, so that all Americans could be free.</p>
<p>1917 to 1921 The Russian revolution freed the serfs from the Tsar. </p>
<p>1939 to 1945 WWII freed the world from the most horrible regime ever.</p>
<p>1949 to 1957 the French Indochinese rebellion freeing South East Asia from French  colonial rule.</p>
<p>1975 The Peoples Republic of Viet Nam invaded Cambodia to free the people from the horrors of Pol Pot.</p>
<p>Here are these and there are a thousand more where people saw something horrible going on and said NO MORE. And not only did they admit that something was wrong but they were not afraid to shed a little blood to win the day againced evil.</p>
<p>The point is Tree ( And I Want you to know that I respect your pacifism) None of these evils would have been changed.  And believe me the American Civil War was hard to admit, my people were on the wrong side of that one.</p>
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