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		<title>By: Gideon</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/02/are-palestinians-allowed-to-resist/#comment-39868</link>
		<dc:creator>Gideon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 01:32:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hamas brought war to Gaza kitchens and is fully responsible for safety of Gaza people and every life lost.

For thousands of year civilizations evolved to wage war in open fields to prevent civilian casualties and to protect children, women and elderly.

Yes, Hamas strategy of bringing the war into the neighborhood provides them tactical advantage against IDF. But at what price?

Gaza civilian population: children, women and elderly are paying this terrible PRICE.

Hamas also is reaping benefits from PR dead baby strategy.
What a cynical abuse of human life!


Where are the Dissdent Voices to protect Gaza people?

Could we see the mother of Tamer Muhammad Abdul-Riziq abu-Shar demanding accountability from Hamas government? Would she or her family dare?

Could we see &quot;Parsley Ladies&quot; protesting in Gaza: &quot;Take the war out of our neighborhoods&quot;?

Number of Gaza combatant and civilian casualties is still being contested.


Barry
Death of Tamer Muhammad Abdul-Riziq abu-Shar is a tragedy. One life lost is a world lost.

Who made the determination how he was killed and that it was IDF or Hamas bullet?

Please provide us with the all the information you have about the case.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hamas brought war to Gaza kitchens and is fully responsible for safety of Gaza people and every life lost.</p>
<p>For thousands of year civilizations evolved to wage war in open fields to prevent civilian casualties and to protect children, women and elderly.</p>
<p>Yes, Hamas strategy of bringing the war into the neighborhood provides them tactical advantage against IDF. But at what price?</p>
<p>Gaza civilian population: children, women and elderly are paying this terrible PRICE.</p>
<p>Hamas also is reaping benefits from PR dead baby strategy.<br />
What a cynical abuse of human life!</p>
<p>Where are the Dissdent Voices to protect Gaza people?</p>
<p>Could we see the mother of Tamer Muhammad Abdul-Riziq abu-Shar demanding accountability from Hamas government? Would she or her family dare?</p>
<p>Could we see &#8220;Parsley Ladies&#8221; protesting in Gaza: &#8220;Take the war out of our neighborhoods&#8221;?</p>
<p>Number of Gaza combatant and civilian casualties is still being contested.</p>
<p>Barry<br />
Death of Tamer Muhammad Abdul-Riziq abu-Shar is a tragedy. One life lost is a world lost.</p>
<p>Who made the determination how he was killed and that it was IDF or Hamas bullet?</p>
<p>Please provide us with the all the information you have about the case.</p>
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		<title>By: Barry</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/02/are-palestinians-allowed-to-resist/#comment-39854</link>
		<dc:creator>Barry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 22:13:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As you know Gideon - UN (that would be the world including the US) deems Gaza to be Israeli-Occupied Palestine right up to this very moment.

No Gideon, Gaza has not been free of Israeli soldiers since 2005.  You only have to read Haaretz or even the J-Post to know that.  Besides, your wording it as &#039;soldiers&#039; obscures the fact that Israel&#039;s usual practice is to shell Gaza or fire missiles into it.  Here&#039;s an example:

19 February 2008     Tamer Muhammad Abdul-Riziq abu-Shar, 9, of Wadi al-Salqa, near Khan Younis, Gaza, killed by IDF gunfire to his head while he and his family attempted to flee their home during an incursion.

How&#039;s that for an up close and personal murder by Israeli Occupation Forces - since 2005, no less?

Only Israel has been hauled into court for using human shields - and found guilty - and then they promptly violated the court edict.  It was also Israel that routinely used human shields in Jenin and Lebanon.  Palestinians do not use human shields - it&#039;s a jewish practice.  For Jewish kids, the reward for graduating high school is to leave the country and kill Palestinian babies.  When will Jewish parents stop raising their children to be murderers?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As you know Gideon &#8211; UN (that would be the world including the US) deems Gaza to be Israeli-Occupied Palestine right up to this very moment.</p>
<p>No Gideon, Gaza has not been free of Israeli soldiers since 2005.  You only have to read Haaretz or even the J-Post to know that.  Besides, your wording it as &#8216;soldiers&#8217; obscures the fact that Israel&#8217;s usual practice is to shell Gaza or fire missiles into it.  Here&#8217;s an example:</p>
<p>19 February 2008     Tamer Muhammad Abdul-Riziq abu-Shar, 9, of Wadi al-Salqa, near Khan Younis, Gaza, killed by IDF gunfire to his head while he and his family attempted to flee their home during an incursion.</p>
<p>How&#8217;s that for an up close and personal murder by Israeli Occupation Forces &#8211; since 2005, no less?</p>
<p>Only Israel has been hauled into court for using human shields &#8211; and found guilty &#8211; and then they promptly violated the court edict.  It was also Israel that routinely used human shields in Jenin and Lebanon.  Palestinians do not use human shields &#8211; it&#8217;s a jewish practice.  For Jewish kids, the reward for graduating high school is to leave the country and kill Palestinian babies.  When will Jewish parents stop raising their children to be murderers?</p>
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		<title>By: kalidas</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/02/are-palestinians-allowed-to-resist/#comment-39846</link>
		<dc:creator>kalidas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 21:12:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gideon. Who&#039;s your daddy?

http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee261/FrankPilla/palestine_terrorist.jpg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gideon. Who&#8217;s your daddy?</p>
<p><a href="http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee261/FrankPilla/palestine_terrorist.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee261/FrankPilla/palestine_terrorist.jpg</a></p>
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		<title>By: bozh</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/02/are-palestinians-allowed-to-resist/#comment-39843</link>
		<dc:creator>bozh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 20:24:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>gideon,
IOF entry [ why not raid or a violation of basic humna rights?] into gaza being advertized and announced? be as it may, i thought we were talking also about shootings in WB.
and if pal&#039;n are shooting, at whom are they shooting?  not at invaders?

regarding IOF announcement, we need impartial observers to testify to that.
so, if  it&#039;s true that IOF announces their [ friendly?] visits, why are observers not allowed to observe any IOF invasion; oops, friendly visit.
during recent gaza massacre, even staunchly pro CNN and Fox people were n ot alllowed into gaza let alone UN observers.
so, where is the smoking bomb?  thus far only gideon has reported this &#039;announcement&#039; by IOF.
come to think of it, i know of no raiders or invaders who announce their coming into a hostile area.
does US police announce to a felon/fugitive, holed in a house or his house, its coming after him?
 and we are talking about amers going after amers and not  &#039;jews&#039;  after hated canaanities and other shemites.
and hated for at least 4K yrs. common, gideon, smarten up and smell the coffee. thnx</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>gideon,<br />
IOF entry [ why not raid or a violation of basic humna rights?] into gaza being advertized and announced? be as it may, i thought we were talking also about shootings in WB.<br />
and if pal&#8217;n are shooting, at whom are they shooting?  not at invaders?</p>
<p>regarding IOF announcement, we need impartial observers to testify to that.<br />
so, if  it&#8217;s true that IOF announces their [ friendly?] visits, why are observers not allowed to observe any IOF invasion; oops, friendly visit.<br />
during recent gaza massacre, even staunchly pro CNN and Fox people were n ot alllowed into gaza let alone UN observers.<br />
so, where is the smoking bomb?  thus far only gideon has reported this &#8216;announcement&#8217; by IOF.<br />
come to think of it, i know of no raiders or invaders who announce their coming into a hostile area.<br />
does US police announce to a felon/fugitive, holed in a house or his house, its coming after him?<br />
 and we are talking about amers going after amers and not  &#8216;jews&#8217;  after hated canaanities and other shemites.<br />
and hated for at least 4K yrs. common, gideon, smarten up and smell the coffee. thnx</p>
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		<title>By: Gideon</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/02/are-palestinians-allowed-to-resist/#comment-39837</link>
		<dc:creator>Gideon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 19:37:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gaza has been FREE from Israeli soldiers since 2005. Gazan storing ammunition in his home takes grave  risk for himself and his family.

Is it resistance?
Can Palestinians say NO to Hamas?
Is he a member of Hamas and it is a requirement to endanger your family as a proof of his readiness for Martyrdom?
Is he on payroll and it is a &quot;risk&quot; that comes with a job?

Whatever the answer is - it is still Hamas strategy that endangers civilian population and uses them as Human Shields.

The amount of Humanitarian aid provide to Gaza should allow Palestinians in Gaza to decline such an offer from Hamas.

 Unless Hamas controls distribution of this Humanitarian assistance and the families have to comply just to survive?

If this is the case than the International community that provides the Humanitarian assistance without taking the necessary steps to assure the delivery to the needy without any strings attached, is also responsible to this abuse and indirectly supporting Hamas abuse of Human Shields.

bozh
&quot;how do you know the shooting did not start as kids were on roofs or streets?&quot;

Common sense.
Israeli entry in Gaza neighborhood are advertised and announced in advance. As you have mentioned, Mothers should hide their children in the basement.

Local skirmishes between armed Palestinian gangs or clans erupt randomly, so that may explain why the kid is still on the roof or on the street and who actually killed him.

Of course it is best to blame the Israelis for every death. Nobody becomes Martyr for being killed by a random bullet from a neighbor or fellow Palestinian.

You do not have to make a movie, there is enough footage of  tens of Palestinian children ages as low as 7 running around and throwing stones with adults caring and shooting guns .

Does it look to you as responsible parenting?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gaza has been FREE from Israeli soldiers since 2005. Gazan storing ammunition in his home takes grave  risk for himself and his family.</p>
<p>Is it resistance?<br />
Can Palestinians say NO to Hamas?<br />
Is he a member of Hamas and it is a requirement to endanger your family as a proof of his readiness for Martyrdom?<br />
Is he on payroll and it is a &#8220;risk&#8221; that comes with a job?</p>
<p>Whatever the answer is &#8211; it is still Hamas strategy that endangers civilian population and uses them as Human Shields.</p>
<p>The amount of Humanitarian aid provide to Gaza should allow Palestinians in Gaza to decline such an offer from Hamas.</p>
<p> Unless Hamas controls distribution of this Humanitarian assistance and the families have to comply just to survive?</p>
<p>If this is the case than the International community that provides the Humanitarian assistance without taking the necessary steps to assure the delivery to the needy without any strings attached, is also responsible to this abuse and indirectly supporting Hamas abuse of Human Shields.</p>
<p>bozh<br />
&#8220;how do you know the shooting did not start as kids were on roofs or streets?&#8221;</p>
<p>Common sense.<br />
Israeli entry in Gaza neighborhood are advertised and announced in advance. As you have mentioned, Mothers should hide their children in the basement.</p>
<p>Local skirmishes between armed Palestinian gangs or clans erupt randomly, so that may explain why the kid is still on the roof or on the street and who actually killed him.</p>
<p>Of course it is best to blame the Israelis for every death. Nobody becomes Martyr for being killed by a random bullet from a neighbor or fellow Palestinian.</p>
<p>You do not have to make a movie, there is enough footage of  tens of Palestinian children ages as low as 7 running around and throwing stones with adults caring and shooting guns .</p>
<p>Does it look to you as responsible parenting?</p>
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		<title>By: Tree</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/02/are-palestinians-allowed-to-resist/#comment-39780</link>
		<dc:creator>Tree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 00:53:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hit submit too soon.  You can watch it for free on Google.</description>
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		<title>By: Tree</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/02/are-palestinians-allowed-to-resist/#comment-39779</link>
		<dc:creator>Tree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 00:53:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have you seen Death in Gaza?</description>
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		<title>By: Barry</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/02/are-palestinians-allowed-to-resist/#comment-39775</link>
		<dc:creator>Barry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 00:43:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree, Tree and I didn&#039;t mean to sound wise-cracking.  But I think if we are to be diverted by films (whether made for propaganda purposes or merely functioning as such) that miss the mark on what the real issue is, then we have missed an opportunity to support peace and freedom.  About Hamas, I would say that Israel had several decades to come to a just peace with a very secular PLO - and didn&#039;t, because they wanted the rest of Palestine.  Now, everyone is up in arms because some Palestinians have retreated into religion and turned to a group that promises to deliver on what the PLO failed to deliver - all of the WB&amp;G.  That Hamas is not perfect (to say the least), and the Palestinians are not perfect (no people are) does not alter the existential issue of the Occupation at all.  It is not as if we can cay (as Gideon insinuates) that Palestine does not have to be considered Occupied any longer because Hamas is made up of bad men (and soulless mothers).  It is not Hamas or Palestinian mothers who are the problem - it is the Israeli Occupation.  So I support a just peace and freedom for Palestinians without reservation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree, Tree and I didn&#8217;t mean to sound wise-cracking.  But I think if we are to be diverted by films (whether made for propaganda purposes or merely functioning as such) that miss the mark on what the real issue is, then we have missed an opportunity to support peace and freedom.  About Hamas, I would say that Israel had several decades to come to a just peace with a very secular PLO &#8211; and didn&#8217;t, because they wanted the rest of Palestine.  Now, everyone is up in arms because some Palestinians have retreated into religion and turned to a group that promises to deliver on what the PLO failed to deliver &#8211; all of the WB&amp;G.  That Hamas is not perfect (to say the least), and the Palestinians are not perfect (no people are) does not alter the existential issue of the Occupation at all.  It is not as if we can cay (as Gideon insinuates) that Palestine does not have to be considered Occupied any longer because Hamas is made up of bad men (and soulless mothers).  It is not Hamas or Palestinian mothers who are the problem &#8211; it is the Israeli Occupation.  So I support a just peace and freedom for Palestinians without reservation.</p>
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		<title>By: bozh</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/02/are-palestinians-allowed-to-resist/#comment-39773</link>
		<dc:creator>bozh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 00:37:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>gideon, 
how do you know the shooting did not start  as kids were on roofs or streets? and were dead or maimed; thus, cld not be even found?
do you think a child wld  run into a street or up on flat roof after shooting started?
possibly, if he or she had antitank weapon or was about to climb into a helicopter gunship to join the fun.
but one fires at a tank while prone and hiding in a foxhole?   isn&#039;t that how most gazans fighters fought israelis during recent massacre?
and once in a unseen and unseeable foxhole IOF wld be wasting a lot of missiles killing just one fighter.
and wldn&#039;t  fighters spread out as widely as possible, making a ground war very costly and which IOF soldiers avoided?
if they were in the buildings using women for protection, they&#039;d had to shoot thru walls or else open windows, dangling women with one hand while firing possibly in the foot rather than at israelis.
and of course, IOF missiles were made of paper,  so that any skirt cld deflect it away? 

now if i was a filmmaker and had money i&#039;d write a script and shoot a film decribing  &#039;zionist&#039; version of gazan fighting.
i think i&#039;d make oodless of money from  such a hillarious movie.

and, gideon, i cld use you for an adviser? thnx</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>gideon,<br />
how do you know the shooting did not start  as kids were on roofs or streets? and were dead or maimed; thus, cld not be even found?<br />
do you think a child wld  run into a street or up on flat roof after shooting started?<br />
possibly, if he or she had antitank weapon or was about to climb into a helicopter gunship to join the fun.<br />
but one fires at a tank while prone and hiding in a foxhole?   isn&#8217;t that how most gazans fighters fought israelis during recent massacre?<br />
and once in a unseen and unseeable foxhole IOF wld be wasting a lot of missiles killing just one fighter.<br />
and wldn&#8217;t  fighters spread out as widely as possible, making a ground war very costly and which IOF soldiers avoided?<br />
if they were in the buildings using women for protection, they&#8217;d had to shoot thru walls or else open windows, dangling women with one hand while firing possibly in the foot rather than at israelis.<br />
and of course, IOF missiles were made of paper,  so that any skirt cld deflect it away? </p>
<p>now if i was a filmmaker and had money i&#8217;d write a script and shoot a film decribing  &#8216;zionist&#8217; version of gazan fighting.<br />
i think i&#8217;d make oodless of money from  such a hillarious movie.</p>
<p>and, gideon, i cld use you for an adviser? thnx</p>
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		<title>By: Tree</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/02/are-palestinians-allowed-to-resist/#comment-39771</link>
		<dc:creator>Tree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 00:01:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Barry, I don&#039;t argue with your comment towards me but I will not turn a blind eye to the truth in order to support the Palestinians.  I wish for them peace and freedom from Israeli oppression but anyone who uses a child to further a violent agenda is filth, just as is anyone who intentionally murders a child.

Gideon, you&#039;re a liar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Barry, I don&#8217;t argue with your comment towards me but I will not turn a blind eye to the truth in order to support the Palestinians.  I wish for them peace and freedom from Israeli oppression but anyone who uses a child to further a violent agenda is filth, just as is anyone who intentionally murders a child.</p>
<p>Gideon, you&#8217;re a liar.</p>
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		<title>By: Gideon</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/02/are-palestinians-allowed-to-resist/#comment-39770</link>
		<dc:creator>Gideon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 00:01:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Palestinian Moms do not fear Israel, they know IDF does not target them.
They fear Hamas that puts them at risk.

bozh
&quot;a mom in gaza or WB wld demand her child[ren] go dwn in basement and stay there until firing stops or aggressor withdraws.&quot;

I agree, it sounds reasonable and the right thing to do.

Maybe you can explain why a child is on the roof or running with people with guns on the street when there is shooting in the neighborhood?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Palestinian Moms do not fear Israel, they know IDF does not target them.<br />
They fear Hamas that puts them at risk.</p>
<p>bozh<br />
&#8220;a mom in gaza or WB wld demand her child[ren] go dwn in basement and stay there until firing stops or aggressor withdraws.&#8221;</p>
<p>I agree, it sounds reasonable and the right thing to do.</p>
<p>Maybe you can explain why a child is on the roof or running with people with guns on the street when there is shooting in the neighborhood?</p>
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		<title>By: bozh</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/02/are-palestinians-allowed-to-resist/#comment-39768</link>
		<dc:creator>bozh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 23:54:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>culture of stealing land over a century and still not enough robbery.
and who&#039;s paying for it? mostly USans while victims are mostly pal&#039;ns.
and most  &#039;jews&#039;  and USans cry for more of the same. thnx</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>culture of stealing land over a century and still not enough robbery.<br />
and who&#8217;s paying for it? mostly USans while victims are mostly pal&#8217;ns.<br />
and most  &#8216;jews&#8217;  and USans cry for more of the same. thnx</p>
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		<title>By: Gideon</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/02/are-palestinians-allowed-to-resist/#comment-39766</link>
		<dc:creator>Gideon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 23:27:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Economics of Martyrdom - worth of  life: what Gaza family gets in return?
Culture of Death and who is paying for it? 

Anybody knows or cares?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Economics of Martyrdom &#8211; worth of  life: what Gaza family gets in return?<br />
Culture of Death and who is paying for it? </p>
<p>Anybody knows or cares?</p>
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		<title>By: bozh</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/02/are-palestinians-allowed-to-resist/#comment-39765</link>
		<dc:creator>bozh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 23:26:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>if pal&#039;n moms are human, then it can be concluded- keeping in mind that  ?all mothers want their children to be safe- that a mom in gaza or WB wld demand her child[ren] go dwn in basement and stay there until firing stops or aggressor withdraws.

it is well known that in many lands, ?all moms remain silent
while men talk about wars/economy/religion/politics; they care mostly about their chldren.

so when shooting starts, moms cld care less about these issues and being in panic and utterly terrified wld at once gather their children and take them to the safest place.

but zionists asssert,  that is not the case with pal&#039;n women. i know how terrified i had been in &#039;43 when the bombs whistled dwn on my home town as i clung to the wall.

so what&#039;s with these pal&#039;n women? are they some kind of different specie?  or are they just people who like most others  wld protect their children when missiles fly or shootings go on.
and wld say, The hell with politics or warfare right now. Safety first!

maybe &#039;zionists&#039; might enlighten us about this?  we all know they are light unto us.
well, if we have only 5 senses and they have 8+; then they know? thnx</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if pal&#8217;n moms are human, then it can be concluded- keeping in mind that  ?all mothers want their children to be safe- that a mom in gaza or WB wld demand her child[ren] go dwn in basement and stay there until firing stops or aggressor withdraws.</p>
<p>it is well known that in many lands, ?all moms remain silent<br />
while men talk about wars/economy/religion/politics; they care mostly about their chldren.</p>
<p>so when shooting starts, moms cld care less about these issues and being in panic and utterly terrified wld at once gather their children and take them to the safest place.</p>
<p>but zionists asssert,  that is not the case with pal&#8217;n women. i know how terrified i had been in &#8217;43 when the bombs whistled dwn on my home town as i clung to the wall.</p>
<p>so what&#8217;s with these pal&#8217;n women? are they some kind of different specie?  or are they just people who like most others  wld protect their children when missiles fly or shootings go on.<br />
and wld say, The hell with politics or warfare right now. Safety first!</p>
<p>maybe &#8216;zionists&#8217; might enlighten us about this?  we all know they are light unto us.<br />
well, if we have only 5 senses and they have 8+; then they know? thnx</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 23:10:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t forget Gideon - It is ONLY Israel that has been brought to court for using human shields - and found guilty.  No one else does so.

If you like, Gideon, I can continue to post a full accounting of IDF shootings of Palestinian children - up close and personal for ALL the months from 11/00 to 12/08.  IDF teens shoot Palestinian toddlers directly in the face, the heart the abdomen.  That&#039;s what they call &#039;Cruel Zionism.&#039;  You know, if you want someone&#039;s land - you have to be cruel about it.  So Israeli parents raise their kids to be cruel about Arabs.

And you don&#039;t have to admit it - but you KNOW from the evidence  presented here, that the UN, the WORLD deems Gaza to be illegally occupied by Israel just as it has been for 42 years.  

And as far as a DMZ goes in Gaza- there is none.  There is, however,  a No-Go zone.  If a Palestinian approaches within several hundred yards of the Gaza Cage, even if it is his farm, he is shot.  Needless to say. that&#039;s a part of Israel&#039;s occupation strategy, unilaterally imposed.

Gideon, you didn&#039;t get back to me on whether you wanted to see what the Jews did to win Palestine, not the Palestine of 181, but real behavior, real practices  - facts on the ground.  Would you like me to spell it out in detail?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t forget Gideon &#8211; It is ONLY Israel that has been brought to court for using human shields &#8211; and found guilty.  No one else does so.</p>
<p>If you like, Gideon, I can continue to post a full accounting of IDF shootings of Palestinian children &#8211; up close and personal for ALL the months from 11/00 to 12/08.  IDF teens shoot Palestinian toddlers directly in the face, the heart the abdomen.  That&#8217;s what they call &#8216;Cruel Zionism.&#8217;  You know, if you want someone&#8217;s land &#8211; you have to be cruel about it.  So Israeli parents raise their kids to be cruel about Arabs.</p>
<p>And you don&#8217;t have to admit it &#8211; but you KNOW from the evidence  presented here, that the UN, the WORLD deems Gaza to be illegally occupied by Israel just as it has been for 42 years.  </p>
<p>And as far as a DMZ goes in Gaza- there is none.  There is, however,  a No-Go zone.  If a Palestinian approaches within several hundred yards of the Gaza Cage, even if it is his farm, he is shot.  Needless to say. that&#8217;s a part of Israel&#8217;s occupation strategy, unilaterally imposed.</p>
<p>Gideon, you didn&#8217;t get back to me on whether you wanted to see what the Jews did to win Palestine, not the Palestine of 181, but real behavior, real practices  &#8211; facts on the ground.  Would you like me to spell it out in detail?</p>
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		<title>By: Gideon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gideon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 22:51:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hamas brings the front to Gaza living room: strategic military and political decision of Human shielding!

&quot;what’s a mom to do when the front line is her living room?&quot;
That&#039;s the real TERROR in Gaza. When parents can&#039;t resist militant gangs using their homes as rocket launching pads, ammunition storage and make shift bunkers.

What can a mom do? Did other communities in the world are trying to come up with an appropriate response?

Some do. 
In Los Angeles &quot;gangland&quot;  were kids die every week because of gangs violence and street shooting, local community leaders, religious leaders and Mothers went to the streets in a Non-violent protest to demand an end endangering their lives.

Can it be done in Gaza?
Who knows ...
But it would require the Dissident Voice which is now missing in Gaza. It is quite understandable. Expressing Dissent may cost you your life.

Mothers against Human Shield! Get the war out of our neighborhoods!
When will we hear and see these demonstrations?
Who has the balls?


I want to believe that &quot;Parsley Ladies&quot; have good intentions and have plenty of ideas. May be even this one passes their list, but at the end in Gaza they are ONLY allowed to do what Hamas approves off.

Tree
IDF does not target children, women or elderly.

Suhiano - we already disscussed this video
I am one of the FEW to watch the video you mentioned. 

We all understand the situation: 
Israel unilaterally withdrew from Gaza and unilaterally announced Demilitarized Zone by the border. 
Many demilitarized zones are also neutral territory, since neither side is allowed to control it even for civilian administration.

IDF does not allow Gazans to enter this Demilitarized Zone to pick the crops or launch rockets!

So how many times do &quot;Parsley Ladies&quot; need to hear NO? 

On the other hand, it is Non-violent protest and provides materials for  these videos. 

So as long as they are willing to take the risk ...., let them have fun?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hamas brings the front to Gaza living room: strategic military and political decision of Human shielding!</p>
<p>&#8220;what’s a mom to do when the front line is her living room?&#8221;<br />
That&#8217;s the real TERROR in Gaza. When parents can&#8217;t resist militant gangs using their homes as rocket launching pads, ammunition storage and make shift bunkers.</p>
<p>What can a mom do? Did other communities in the world are trying to come up with an appropriate response?</p>
<p>Some do.<br />
In Los Angeles &#8220;gangland&#8221;  were kids die every week because of gangs violence and street shooting, local community leaders, religious leaders and Mothers went to the streets in a Non-violent protest to demand an end endangering their lives.</p>
<p>Can it be done in Gaza?<br />
Who knows &#8230;<br />
But it would require the Dissident Voice which is now missing in Gaza. It is quite understandable. Expressing Dissent may cost you your life.</p>
<p>Mothers against Human Shield! Get the war out of our neighborhoods!<br />
When will we hear and see these demonstrations?<br />
Who has the balls?</p>
<p>I want to believe that &#8220;Parsley Ladies&#8221; have good intentions and have plenty of ideas. May be even this one passes their list, but at the end in Gaza they are ONLY allowed to do what Hamas approves off.</p>
<p>Tree<br />
IDF does not target children, women or elderly.</p>
<p>Suhiano &#8211; we already disscussed this video<br />
I am one of the FEW to watch the video you mentioned. </p>
<p>We all understand the situation:<br />
Israel unilaterally withdrew from Gaza and unilaterally announced Demilitarized Zone by the border.<br />
Many demilitarized zones are also neutral territory, since neither side is allowed to control it even for civilian administration.</p>
<p>IDF does not allow Gazans to enter this Demilitarized Zone to pick the crops or launch rockets!</p>
<p>So how many times do &#8220;Parsley Ladies&#8221; need to hear NO? </p>
<p>On the other hand, it is Non-violent protest and provides materials for  these videos. </p>
<p>So as long as they are willing to take the risk &#8230;., let them have fun?</p>
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		<dc:creator>Barry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 22:23:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>tree - I don&#039;t know about heroes - I do know that a first-rate world military power has been practicing a turkey shoot on tens of  thousands of virtually unarmed people in their own country for 42 years now - and me and my fellow taxpayers are footing the bill.  That&#039;s what leaves a bad taste in my mouth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>tree &#8211; I don&#8217;t know about heroes &#8211; I do know that a first-rate world military power has been practicing a turkey shoot on tens of  thousands of virtually unarmed people in their own country for 42 years now &#8211; and me and my fellow taxpayers are footing the bill.  That&#8217;s what leaves a bad taste in my mouth.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Barry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 21:25:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But maybe you are right on two things - All these deaths of Palestinian kids by missiles and shells fired from gunships, gunboats, helicopters and drones - probably those are Palestinian gunships, gunboats, helicopters and drones, ya think?  
And surely you are right about the bad parenting. Good parents would have advised their children to stay in hiding rather than go on picnics, or to school, or for car rides.  Just what are these parents thinking?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But maybe you are right on two things &#8211; All these deaths of Palestinian kids by missiles and shells fired from gunships, gunboats, helicopters and drones &#8211; probably those are Palestinian gunships, gunboats, helicopters and drones, ya think?<br />
And surely you are right about the bad parenting. Good parents would have advised their children to stay in hiding rather than go on picnics, or to school, or for car rides.  Just what are these parents thinking?</p>
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		<title>By: Barry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 21:03:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Gideon - Now about those Palestinian rockets you are so upset about.  Can you tell me what the essential moral difference is between Palestinian home-made rockets, and Israeli or US manufactured missiles, drones, and shellings?  I&#039;ll tell you. The difference is that your country occupies Palestine - 42 years now - and Palestine occupies nobody.  
AND - speaking of cowardly, what could be more cowardly than killing families from long distance?  Killing 5 month-olds at beach picnics. Below is a partial accounting of Palestinian CHILDREN killed by Israel in 2006 - by Israeli MISSILES and shells.  How dare you speak of rockets.
5	February 2006
Nasr Ramadan Said Marshud, 16, of Gaza City, killed by IDF helicopter fire while driving a wounded man to the hospital after an airstrike at the al-Shams sports club.
6	March 2006
Ahmad Nasr Muhammad al-Swaisi, 14, of Gaza City, killed by an IDF missile during a targeted assassination.
Mahmoud Ahmad Adel al-Batash, 16, of Gaza City, killed, with his brother, by an IDF missile during a targeted assassination.
Raed Ahmad Adel al-Batash, 11, of Gaza City, killed, with his brother, by an IDF missile during a targeted assassination.
7	April 2006
Bilal Iyad Muhammad abul-Einein, 5, of Rafah, Gaza, killed by an IDF missile during the targeted assassination of his father.
7     April 2006
Mamdouh Muhammad Khalil Obaid, 15, of Sheikh Zayed, Gaza, killed by IDF shelling while playing soccer near his home.
9	June 2006
Haithem Ali Eisa Ghalya, 5 months, of Beit Lahya, Gaza, killed, with his mother, father and four sisters, by IDF shelling from an offshore warship while having a family picnic at Waha beach.
Hanadi Ali Eisa Ghalya, 18 months, of Beit Lahya, Gaza, killed, with her mother, father, brother and three sisters, by IDF shelling from an offshore warship while having a family picnic at Waha beach.
Sabrin Ali Eisa Ghalya, 4, of Beit Lahya, Gaza, killed, with her mother, father, brother and three sisters, by IDF shelling from an offshore warship while having a family picnic at Waha beach.
Ilham Ali Eisa Ghalya, 15, of Beit Lahya, Gaza, killed, with her mother, father, brother and three sisters, by IDF shelling from an offshore warship while having a family picnic at Waha beach.
Alia Ali Eisa Ghalya, 17, of Beit Lahya, Gaza, killed, with her mother, father, brother and three sisters, by IDF shelling from an offshore warship while having a family picnic at Waha beach.
13	June 2006
Hisham Ashraf Farouq al-Mughrabi, 14, of Gaza City, killed, with his brother and father, by an IDF missile while gathered at the site of a targeted assassination.
Maher Ashraf Farouq al-Mughrabi, 8, of Gaza City, killed, with his brother and father, by an IDF missile while gathered at the site of a targeted assassination.
Rafiq Muhammad Faraj al-Mubayed, 17, of Gaza City, killed by an IDF missile while at the site of a targeted assassination.
20	June 2006
Samia Mahmoud Ziad al-Sharif, 5, of Gaza City, killed by an IDF missile while going to her local grocery store during a targeted assassination attempt.
Muhammad Jamal Shukri Ruqa, 6, of Gaza City, killed by an IDF missile while going to his local grocery store during a targeted assassination attempt.
Bilal Jaser al-Hisi, 16, of Gaza City, killed by an IDF missile while at work during a targeted assassination attempt.
21	June 2006
Majzarah Shaban Abdul-Qader Ahmad, 12 hours, of Khan Younis, Gaza, killed, with her mother and uncle, by an IDF missile during a targeted assassination attempt.
 8	July 2006
Rawan Farid Shaban Hajaj, 6, of Gaza City, killed, with her older brother, while in their home when the IDF bombed their neighborhood gas station.
10	July 2006
Mahfouz Farid Saber Nusir, 15, of Beit Hanoun, Gaza, killed by an IDF missile outside Hayel Abdul-Hamid secondary school.
Ahmad Ghalib Nimer abu-Amsha, 16, of Beit Hanoun, Gaza, killed by an IDF missile outside Hayel Abdul-Hamid secondary school.
Ahmad Fathi Odeh Shabat, 16, of Beit Hanoun, Gaza, killed by an IDF missile outside Hayel Abdul-Hamid secondary school.
Khaled Nidal Abdul-Karim Wahbah, 15 months, of Salah al-Din, near Khan Younis, Gaza, died of wounds sustained June 21 in an IDF missile strike during a targeted assassination attempt.
11	July 2006
Walid Mahmoud Ahmad El-Zeinati, 12, of Gaza City, died of wounds sustained July 6 in an IDF missile strike.
12	July 2006
Somaya Nabil Abdul-Latif abu-Salmeya, 17, of Gaza City, disabled, killed, with her parents, two brothers and four sisters, in IDF airstrikes on their family home.
Basma Nabil Abdul-Latif abu-Salmeya, 16, of Gaza City, killed, with her parents, two brothers and four sisters, in IDF airstrikes on their family home.
Huda Nabil Abdul-Latif abu-Salmeya, 13, of Gaza City, killed, with her parents, two brothers and four sisters, in IDF airstrikes on their family home.
Iman Nabil Abdul-Latif abu-Salmeya, 12, of Gaza City, killed, with her parents, two brothers and four sisters, in IDF airstrikes on their family home.
Yehya Nabil Abdel-Latif abu-Salmeya, 10, of Gaza City, killed, with his parents, brother and five sisters, in IDF airstrikes on their family home.
Aya Nabil Abdel-Latif abu-Salmeya, 9, of Gaza City, killed, with her parents, two brothers and four sisters, in IDF airstrikes on their family home.
Nasrallah Nabil Abdul-Latif abu-Salmeya, 7, of Gaza City, killed, with his parents, brother and five sisters, in IDF airstrikes on their family home.
Mahmoud Muhammad Khalil al-Asar, 15, of Nuseirat refugee camp, Gaza, killed by IDF helicopter fire near the abu-Holi checkpoint.
Ibrahim Ali Mustafa Qatush, 15, of Deir al-Balah, Gaza, killed by IDF helicopter fire near the abu-Holi checkpoint.
Ahmad Abdul-Menem Muhammad abu-Hajaj, 16, of Bureij refugee camp, Gaza, killed by IDF helicopter fire near the abu-Holi checkpoint.
Ibrahim Ali Ibrahim al-Nabahin, 15, of Bureij refugee camp, Gaza, killed by IDF helicopter fire near the abu-Holi checkpoint.
Salah Hassan Hammad abu-Maktomah, 17, of Bureij refugee camp, Gaza, killed by IDF helicopter fire near the abu-Holi checkpoint.
13	July 2006
Raji Omar Jaber Daifallah, 16, of Beit Hanoun, Gaza, died of wounds sustained July 10 in an IDF missile strike outside Hayel Abdul-Hamid secondary school.
19	July 2006
Ali Kamal Muhammad al-Najar, 13, of Maghazi refugee camp, Gaza, killed by IDF shelling.
Ahmad Rohi Hassan Abdu, 13, of Nuseirat refugee camp, Gaza, killed by an IDF missile fired from a drone.
20	July 2006
Fadwa Faysal Suleiman al-Arrouqi, 13, of Maghazi refugee camp, Gaza, died of wounds sustained July 19 from IDF shelling which also killed her mother.
21	July 2006
Muamen Jaber Hamdi Harara, 16, of Gaza City, killed, with his older brother and cousin, by IDF shelling while on his roof during an incursion.
24	July 2006
Saleh Ibrahim Abdul-Rauf Nasr, 14, of Beit Hanoun, Gaza, killed by IDF shelling while at home in building 10 of the al-Nada towers.
Nadi Habib Abdullah al-Attar, 10, of Atatra, near Beit Lahya, Gaza, killed, with his grandmother, by IDF shelling while riding on an animal-drawn cart.
Khitam Muhammad Rebhi Tayeh, 11, of Beit Hanoun, Gaza, killed by IDF shelling while on her way to the grocery store.
July 2006
Bara Ahmad Hussein Habib, 2, of Gaza City, killed by an IDF missile fired from a drone to his head and abdomen during a targeted assassination.
Shahid Samir Ata Oukal, 8 months, of Jabalya, Gaza, killed, with her sister and mother, by IDF shelling.
Maria Samir Ata Oukal, 5, of Jabalya, Gaza, killed, with her sister and mother, by IDF shelling.
Ahmad Ismael Saber abu-Amsha, 15, of Beit Hanoun, Gaza, killed by IDF shelling while at home.
31	July 2006
Nahid Muhammad Fawzi al-Shanbari, 16, of Beit Hanoun, Gaza, killed by IDF shelling near his home.
 1	August 2006
Aref Ahmad Eid abu-Qaida, 14, of Beit Hanoun, Gaza, killed by IDF shelling while in his grandfather’s house.
Somaya Samir Ata Oukal, 13, of Jabalya, Gaza, died of wounds sustained July 26 from IDF shelling which also killed her mother and two sisters.
3	August 2006
Anis Salem Jadua abu-Awad, 11, of Rafah, Gaza, killed in an IDF airstrike.
4	August 2006
Shahed Saleh Omar al-Sheikh Eid, 3 days, of Rafah, Gaza, killed by IDF shelling.
5	August 2006
Ammar Raja al-Natour, 17, of Rafah, Gaza, killed, with his sister, by an IDF missile fired from a drone while fleeing shelling.
Kifah Raja al-Natour, 15, of Rafah, Gaza, killed, with her brother, by an IDF missile fired from a drone while fleeing shelling.
Ibrahim Suleiman al-Rumailat, 13, of Rafah, Gaza, killed by an IDF missile fired from a drone to his back and shoulder.
9	August 2006
Raja Salam abu-Shaban, 3, of Gaza City, killed by an IDF missile.
Ahmad Hussein Muhammad al-Mishal, 16, of Shati refugee camp, Gaza, killed by IDF helicopter fire while working in an orchard.
14	August 2006
Ahmad Yousef Abed Ashour, 13, of Beit Hanoun, Gaza, killed by an IDF missile while in a crowd that gathered near the site of an abandoned Palestinian homemade rocket launcher.
29	August 2006
Muhammad Abdullah Suleiman al-Ziq, 14, of Gaza City, killed by an IDF missile fired from a drone.
10	September 2006
Jihad Suleiman Selmi abu-Snaima, 14, of Rafah, Gaza, killed by IDF shelling while at home near the Gaza airport.
21	September 2006
Ala Saqer Dahrouj abu-Dahrouj, 15, of Jabalya, Gaza, killed by an IDF missile while herding sheep.
Zidan Rafiq Muhammad abu-Rashid, 16, of Jabalya, Gaza, killed by an IDF missile while herding sheep.
Muhammad Selmi Muhammad Masalha, 17, of Jabalya, Gaza, killed by an IDF missile while herding sheep.
27	September 2006
Damaliz Ahmad Muhammad Hamad, 14, of Rafah refugee camp, Gaza, killed in an IDF airstrike on a neighbor’s house.
29	September 2006
Anwar Abdul-Ghani Muhammad Hamdan, 16, of Jabalya refugee camp, Gaza, killed, with his brother, by an IDF missile while riding their bicycles past an abandoned Palestinian rocket launching site.
Hamam Abdul-Ghani Muhammad Hamdan, 13, of Jabalya refugee camp, Gaza, killed, with his brother, by an IDF missile while riding their bicycles past an abandoned Palestinian rocket launching site.
 3	October 2006
Naji Khaled Ismael al-Bardawil, 15, of Khan Younis, Gaza, killed in an IDF missile strike on a neighboring building.
9	October 2006
Mahmoud Jamal Ahmad abu-Nasr, 14, of Beit Lahya, Gaza, killed by an IDF missile while salvaging an abandoned homemade rocket launcher.
12	October 2006
Iman Usama Fadel al-Harazin, 2, of Gaza City, killed in an IDF airstrike while walking with her father.
Suhaib Adel Zerei Mahmoud Qudaih, 13, of Abasan al-Kabira, near Khan Younis, Gaza, killed by an IDF missile while in his home.
November 2006
Muhammad Samir Husseini Mahmoud, 17, of Jabalya refugee camp, Gaza, killed by an IDF missile while administering first aid to a victim at the scene of a targeted assassination.
Bara Riyad Muhammad Fayyad, 4, of Beit Hanoun, Gaza, died of wounds sustained Nov. 1 from IDF shelling of his home.
Raed Ali al-Majid Yasin, 15, of Jabalya refugee camp, Gaza, killed in an IDF airstrike while at the scene of a targeted assassination.
November 2006
Ibrahim Jamal Hasan al-Bassiuni, 17, of Beit Hanoun, Gaza, died of wounds sustained Nov. 3 from IDF helicopter fire during an incursion.
6	November 2006
Ramzi Mowafaq al-Shrafi, 16, of Jabalya refugee camp, Gaza, killed by an IDF missile while on his way to school.
8	November 2006
Fatima Masoud Abdullah al-Athamna, 16, of Beit Hanoun, Gaza, killed, with 16 family members, by IDF shelling while asleep at home.
Mahdi Said Abdullah al-Athamna, 13, of Beit Hanoun, Gaza, killed, with 16 family members, by IDF shelling while asleep at home.
Muhammad Said Abdullah al-Athamna, 14, of Beit Hanoun, Gaza, killed, with 16 family members, by IDF shelling while asleep at home.
Saad Majdi Said al-Athamna, 8, of Beit Hanoun, Gaza, killed, with 16 family members, by IDF shelling while asleep at home.
Mahmoud Amjad al-Athamna, 12, of Beit Hanoun, Gaza, killed, with 16 family members, by IDF shelling while asleep at home.
Maram Ramez Masoud al-Athamna, 2, of Beit Hanoun, Gaza, killed, with 16 family members, by IDF shelling while asleep at home.
Maisa Ramez Masoud al-Athamna, 6 months, of Beit Hanoun, Gaza, killed, with 16 family members, by IDF shelling while asleep at home.
Musa Ahmad Musleh Zuhod, 14, of Beit Lahya, Gaza, killed by an IDF missile while standing near a homemade Palestinian rocket launcher.
Mahmoud Hussein Mustafa abu-Hamada, 17, of Jabalya, Gaza, died of wounds sustained Nov. 6 from an IDF missile strike at the Jabalya Youth Club.

Hey Gideon - Did you get this far?  Did you count them?  It&#039;s just a partial accounting of but one year.  I can give you the records on those killed by tank fire if you are interested in &#039;medium-range murder.&#039; Or does this leave your appetite for dead Palestinian kids sated for the moment?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Gideon &#8211; Now about those Palestinian rockets you are so upset about.  Can you tell me what the essential moral difference is between Palestinian home-made rockets, and Israeli or US manufactured missiles, drones, and shellings?  I&#8217;ll tell you. The difference is that your country occupies Palestine &#8211; 42 years now &#8211; and Palestine occupies nobody.<br />
AND &#8211; speaking of cowardly, what could be more cowardly than killing families from long distance?  Killing 5 month-olds at beach picnics. Below is a partial accounting of Palestinian CHILDREN killed by Israel in 2006 &#8211; by Israeli MISSILES and shells.  How dare you speak of rockets.<br />
5	February 2006<br />
Nasr Ramadan Said Marshud, 16, of Gaza City, killed by IDF helicopter fire while driving a wounded man to the hospital after an airstrike at the al-Shams sports club.<br />
6	March 2006<br />
Ahmad Nasr Muhammad al-Swaisi, 14, of Gaza City, killed by an IDF missile during a targeted assassination.<br />
Mahmoud Ahmad Adel al-Batash, 16, of Gaza City, killed, with his brother, by an IDF missile during a targeted assassination.<br />
Raed Ahmad Adel al-Batash, 11, of Gaza City, killed, with his brother, by an IDF missile during a targeted assassination.<br />
7	April 2006<br />
Bilal Iyad Muhammad abul-Einein, 5, of Rafah, Gaza, killed by an IDF missile during the targeted assassination of his father.<br />
7     April 2006<br />
Mamdouh Muhammad Khalil Obaid, 15, of Sheikh Zayed, Gaza, killed by IDF shelling while playing soccer near his home.<br />
9	June 2006<br />
Haithem Ali Eisa Ghalya, 5 months, of Beit Lahya, Gaza, killed, with his mother, father and four sisters, by IDF shelling from an offshore warship while having a family picnic at Waha beach.<br />
Hanadi Ali Eisa Ghalya, 18 months, of Beit Lahya, Gaza, killed, with her mother, father, brother and three sisters, by IDF shelling from an offshore warship while having a family picnic at Waha beach.<br />
Sabrin Ali Eisa Ghalya, 4, of Beit Lahya, Gaza, killed, with her mother, father, brother and three sisters, by IDF shelling from an offshore warship while having a family picnic at Waha beach.<br />
Ilham Ali Eisa Ghalya, 15, of Beit Lahya, Gaza, killed, with her mother, father, brother and three sisters, by IDF shelling from an offshore warship while having a family picnic at Waha beach.<br />
Alia Ali Eisa Ghalya, 17, of Beit Lahya, Gaza, killed, with her mother, father, brother and three sisters, by IDF shelling from an offshore warship while having a family picnic at Waha beach.<br />
13	June 2006<br />
Hisham Ashraf Farouq al-Mughrabi, 14, of Gaza City, killed, with his brother and father, by an IDF missile while gathered at the site of a targeted assassination.<br />
Maher Ashraf Farouq al-Mughrabi, 8, of Gaza City, killed, with his brother and father, by an IDF missile while gathered at the site of a targeted assassination.<br />
Rafiq Muhammad Faraj al-Mubayed, 17, of Gaza City, killed by an IDF missile while at the site of a targeted assassination.<br />
20	June 2006<br />
Samia Mahmoud Ziad al-Sharif, 5, of Gaza City, killed by an IDF missile while going to her local grocery store during a targeted assassination attempt.<br />
Muhammad Jamal Shukri Ruqa, 6, of Gaza City, killed by an IDF missile while going to his local grocery store during a targeted assassination attempt.<br />
Bilal Jaser al-Hisi, 16, of Gaza City, killed by an IDF missile while at work during a targeted assassination attempt.<br />
21	June 2006<br />
Majzarah Shaban Abdul-Qader Ahmad, 12 hours, of Khan Younis, Gaza, killed, with her mother and uncle, by an IDF missile during a targeted assassination attempt.<br />
 8	July 2006<br />
Rawan Farid Shaban Hajaj, 6, of Gaza City, killed, with her older brother, while in their home when the IDF bombed their neighborhood gas station.<br />
10	July 2006<br />
Mahfouz Farid Saber Nusir, 15, of Beit Hanoun, Gaza, killed by an IDF missile outside Hayel Abdul-Hamid secondary school.<br />
Ahmad Ghalib Nimer abu-Amsha, 16, of Beit Hanoun, Gaza, killed by an IDF missile outside Hayel Abdul-Hamid secondary school.<br />
Ahmad Fathi Odeh Shabat, 16, of Beit Hanoun, Gaza, killed by an IDF missile outside Hayel Abdul-Hamid secondary school.<br />
Khaled Nidal Abdul-Karim Wahbah, 15 months, of Salah al-Din, near Khan Younis, Gaza, died of wounds sustained June 21 in an IDF missile strike during a targeted assassination attempt.<br />
11	July 2006<br />
Walid Mahmoud Ahmad El-Zeinati, 12, of Gaza City, died of wounds sustained July 6 in an IDF missile strike.<br />
12	July 2006<br />
Somaya Nabil Abdul-Latif abu-Salmeya, 17, of Gaza City, disabled, killed, with her parents, two brothers and four sisters, in IDF airstrikes on their family home.<br />
Basma Nabil Abdul-Latif abu-Salmeya, 16, of Gaza City, killed, with her parents, two brothers and four sisters, in IDF airstrikes on their family home.<br />
Huda Nabil Abdul-Latif abu-Salmeya, 13, of Gaza City, killed, with her parents, two brothers and four sisters, in IDF airstrikes on their family home.<br />
Iman Nabil Abdul-Latif abu-Salmeya, 12, of Gaza City, killed, with her parents, two brothers and four sisters, in IDF airstrikes on their family home.<br />
Yehya Nabil Abdel-Latif abu-Salmeya, 10, of Gaza City, killed, with his parents, brother and five sisters, in IDF airstrikes on their family home.<br />
Aya Nabil Abdel-Latif abu-Salmeya, 9, of Gaza City, killed, with her parents, two brothers and four sisters, in IDF airstrikes on their family home.<br />
Nasrallah Nabil Abdul-Latif abu-Salmeya, 7, of Gaza City, killed, with his parents, brother and five sisters, in IDF airstrikes on their family home.<br />
Mahmoud Muhammad Khalil al-Asar, 15, of Nuseirat refugee camp, Gaza, killed by IDF helicopter fire near the abu-Holi checkpoint.<br />
Ibrahim Ali Mustafa Qatush, 15, of Deir al-Balah, Gaza, killed by IDF helicopter fire near the abu-Holi checkpoint.<br />
Ahmad Abdul-Menem Muhammad abu-Hajaj, 16, of Bureij refugee camp, Gaza, killed by IDF helicopter fire near the abu-Holi checkpoint.<br />
Ibrahim Ali Ibrahim al-Nabahin, 15, of Bureij refugee camp, Gaza, killed by IDF helicopter fire near the abu-Holi checkpoint.<br />
Salah Hassan Hammad abu-Maktomah, 17, of Bureij refugee camp, Gaza, killed by IDF helicopter fire near the abu-Holi checkpoint.<br />
13	July 2006<br />
Raji Omar Jaber Daifallah, 16, of Beit Hanoun, Gaza, died of wounds sustained July 10 in an IDF missile strike outside Hayel Abdul-Hamid secondary school.<br />
19	July 2006<br />
Ali Kamal Muhammad al-Najar, 13, of Maghazi refugee camp, Gaza, killed by IDF shelling.<br />
Ahmad Rohi Hassan Abdu, 13, of Nuseirat refugee camp, Gaza, killed by an IDF missile fired from a drone.<br />
20	July 2006<br />
Fadwa Faysal Suleiman al-Arrouqi, 13, of Maghazi refugee camp, Gaza, died of wounds sustained July 19 from IDF shelling which also killed her mother.<br />
21	July 2006<br />
Muamen Jaber Hamdi Harara, 16, of Gaza City, killed, with his older brother and cousin, by IDF shelling while on his roof during an incursion.<br />
24	July 2006<br />
Saleh Ibrahim Abdul-Rauf Nasr, 14, of Beit Hanoun, Gaza, killed by IDF shelling while at home in building 10 of the al-Nada towers.<br />
Nadi Habib Abdullah al-Attar, 10, of Atatra, near Beit Lahya, Gaza, killed, with his grandmother, by IDF shelling while riding on an animal-drawn cart.<br />
Khitam Muhammad Rebhi Tayeh, 11, of Beit Hanoun, Gaza, killed by IDF shelling while on her way to the grocery store.<br />
July 2006<br />
Bara Ahmad Hussein Habib, 2, of Gaza City, killed by an IDF missile fired from a drone to his head and abdomen during a targeted assassination.<br />
Shahid Samir Ata Oukal, 8 months, of Jabalya, Gaza, killed, with her sister and mother, by IDF shelling.<br />
Maria Samir Ata Oukal, 5, of Jabalya, Gaza, killed, with her sister and mother, by IDF shelling.<br />
Ahmad Ismael Saber abu-Amsha, 15, of Beit Hanoun, Gaza, killed by IDF shelling while at home.<br />
31	July 2006<br />
Nahid Muhammad Fawzi al-Shanbari, 16, of Beit Hanoun, Gaza, killed by IDF shelling near his home.<br />
 1	August 2006<br />
Aref Ahmad Eid abu-Qaida, 14, of Beit Hanoun, Gaza, killed by IDF shelling while in his grandfather’s house.<br />
Somaya Samir Ata Oukal, 13, of Jabalya, Gaza, died of wounds sustained July 26 from IDF shelling which also killed her mother and two sisters.<br />
3	August 2006<br />
Anis Salem Jadua abu-Awad, 11, of Rafah, Gaza, killed in an IDF airstrike.<br />
4	August 2006<br />
Shahed Saleh Omar al-Sheikh Eid, 3 days, of Rafah, Gaza, killed by IDF shelling.<br />
5	August 2006<br />
Ammar Raja al-Natour, 17, of Rafah, Gaza, killed, with his sister, by an IDF missile fired from a drone while fleeing shelling.<br />
Kifah Raja al-Natour, 15, of Rafah, Gaza, killed, with her brother, by an IDF missile fired from a drone while fleeing shelling.<br />
Ibrahim Suleiman al-Rumailat, 13, of Rafah, Gaza, killed by an IDF missile fired from a drone to his back and shoulder.<br />
9	August 2006<br />
Raja Salam abu-Shaban, 3, of Gaza City, killed by an IDF missile.<br />
Ahmad Hussein Muhammad al-Mishal, 16, of Shati refugee camp, Gaza, killed by IDF helicopter fire while working in an orchard.<br />
14	August 2006<br />
Ahmad Yousef Abed Ashour, 13, of Beit Hanoun, Gaza, killed by an IDF missile while in a crowd that gathered near the site of an abandoned Palestinian homemade rocket launcher.<br />
29	August 2006<br />
Muhammad Abdullah Suleiman al-Ziq, 14, of Gaza City, killed by an IDF missile fired from a drone.<br />
10	September 2006<br />
Jihad Suleiman Selmi abu-Snaima, 14, of Rafah, Gaza, killed by IDF shelling while at home near the Gaza airport.<br />
21	September 2006<br />
Ala Saqer Dahrouj abu-Dahrouj, 15, of Jabalya, Gaza, killed by an IDF missile while herding sheep.<br />
Zidan Rafiq Muhammad abu-Rashid, 16, of Jabalya, Gaza, killed by an IDF missile while herding sheep.<br />
Muhammad Selmi Muhammad Masalha, 17, of Jabalya, Gaza, killed by an IDF missile while herding sheep.<br />
27	September 2006<br />
Damaliz Ahmad Muhammad Hamad, 14, of Rafah refugee camp, Gaza, killed in an IDF airstrike on a neighbor’s house.<br />
29	September 2006<br />
Anwar Abdul-Ghani Muhammad Hamdan, 16, of Jabalya refugee camp, Gaza, killed, with his brother, by an IDF missile while riding their bicycles past an abandoned Palestinian rocket launching site.<br />
Hamam Abdul-Ghani Muhammad Hamdan, 13, of Jabalya refugee camp, Gaza, killed, with his brother, by an IDF missile while riding their bicycles past an abandoned Palestinian rocket launching site.<br />
 3	October 2006<br />
Naji Khaled Ismael al-Bardawil, 15, of Khan Younis, Gaza, killed in an IDF missile strike on a neighboring building.<br />
9	October 2006<br />
Mahmoud Jamal Ahmad abu-Nasr, 14, of Beit Lahya, Gaza, killed by an IDF missile while salvaging an abandoned homemade rocket launcher.<br />
12	October 2006<br />
Iman Usama Fadel al-Harazin, 2, of Gaza City, killed in an IDF airstrike while walking with her father.<br />
Suhaib Adel Zerei Mahmoud Qudaih, 13, of Abasan al-Kabira, near Khan Younis, Gaza, killed by an IDF missile while in his home.<br />
November 2006<br />
Muhammad Samir Husseini Mahmoud, 17, of Jabalya refugee camp, Gaza, killed by an IDF missile while administering first aid to a victim at the scene of a targeted assassination.<br />
Bara Riyad Muhammad Fayyad, 4, of Beit Hanoun, Gaza, died of wounds sustained Nov. 1 from IDF shelling of his home.<br />
Raed Ali al-Majid Yasin, 15, of Jabalya refugee camp, Gaza, killed in an IDF airstrike while at the scene of a targeted assassination.<br />
November 2006<br />
Ibrahim Jamal Hasan al-Bassiuni, 17, of Beit Hanoun, Gaza, died of wounds sustained Nov. 3 from IDF helicopter fire during an incursion.<br />
6	November 2006<br />
Ramzi Mowafaq al-Shrafi, 16, of Jabalya refugee camp, Gaza, killed by an IDF missile while on his way to school.<br />
8	November 2006<br />
Fatima Masoud Abdullah al-Athamna, 16, of Beit Hanoun, Gaza, killed, with 16 family members, by IDF shelling while asleep at home.<br />
Mahdi Said Abdullah al-Athamna, 13, of Beit Hanoun, Gaza, killed, with 16 family members, by IDF shelling while asleep at home.<br />
Muhammad Said Abdullah al-Athamna, 14, of Beit Hanoun, Gaza, killed, with 16 family members, by IDF shelling while asleep at home.<br />
Saad Majdi Said al-Athamna, 8, of Beit Hanoun, Gaza, killed, with 16 family members, by IDF shelling while asleep at home.<br />
Mahmoud Amjad al-Athamna, 12, of Beit Hanoun, Gaza, killed, with 16 family members, by IDF shelling while asleep at home.<br />
Maram Ramez Masoud al-Athamna, 2, of Beit Hanoun, Gaza, killed, with 16 family members, by IDF shelling while asleep at home.<br />
Maisa Ramez Masoud al-Athamna, 6 months, of Beit Hanoun, Gaza, killed, with 16 family members, by IDF shelling while asleep at home.<br />
Musa Ahmad Musleh Zuhod, 14, of Beit Lahya, Gaza, killed by an IDF missile while standing near a homemade Palestinian rocket launcher.<br />
Mahmoud Hussein Mustafa abu-Hamada, 17, of Jabalya, Gaza, died of wounds sustained Nov. 6 from an IDF missile strike at the Jabalya Youth Club.</p>
<p>Hey Gideon &#8211; Did you get this far?  Did you count them?  It&#8217;s just a partial accounting of but one year.  I can give you the records on those killed by tank fire if you are interested in &#8216;medium-range murder.&#8217; Or does this leave your appetite for dead Palestinian kids sated for the moment?</p>
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		<description>&quot;Don&#039;t talk to me about responsibility, sister.  We&#039;re men.  When Ahmed is gone there will be thousands of children to replace him.&quot;
This is a comment made by a paramilitary (ie Hamas) militant in reference to the young boy they used as a lookout and who made grenades for them.  A young boy who&#039;s only goal in life was to be a &quot;martyr.&quot;  It&#039;s from the documentary Death in Gaza by James Miller and Saira Shah.

Israeli soldiers actively seek out and kill Palestinian children.

Neither side are  heros in this respect, are they?  But how pathetic that a bunch of commenters on a blog try to make them out to be.  It really leaves a bad taste in my mouth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Don&#8217;t talk to me about responsibility, sister.  We&#8217;re men.  When Ahmed is gone there will be thousands of children to replace him.&#8221;<br />
This is a comment made by a paramilitary (ie Hamas) militant in reference to the young boy they used as a lookout and who made grenades for them.  A young boy who&#8217;s only goal in life was to be a &#8220;martyr.&#8221;  It&#8217;s from the documentary Death in Gaza by James Miller and Saira Shah.</p>
<p>Israeli soldiers actively seek out and kill Palestinian children.</p>
<p>Neither side are  heros in this respect, are they?  But how pathetic that a bunch of commenters on a blog try to make them out to be.  It really leaves a bad taste in my mouth.</p>
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