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		<title>By: Wingnut</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/02/adding-insult-to-injury/#comment-39999</link>
		<dc:creator>Wingnut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 11:37:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bash away, competitive ones.  You&#039;ll still need to get on-subject and deal with the issues raised, eventually.  Elizabeth... interesting article.  My apologies for commandeering its base subject and trying to illuminate the REAL problem with using economies.  I&#039;ll be going somewhere where children don&#039;t shoot messengers for the message.  Cya next time maybe.  Wingnut]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bash away, competitive ones.  You&#8217;ll still need to get on-subject and deal with the issues raised, eventually.  Elizabeth&#8230; interesting article.  My apologies for commandeering its base subject and trying to illuminate the REAL problem with using economies.  I&#8217;ll be going somewhere where children don&#8217;t shoot messengers for the message.  Cya next time maybe.  Wingnut</p>
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		<title>By: danny ray</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/02/adding-insult-to-injury/#comment-39980</link>
		<dc:creator>danny ray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 01:34:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[wingnut, I went to the web site you gave me, In the interest of the future of the earth I urge you to always reuse your tin foil hat. Please do not make a new one each day. we ned to conserve tin foil.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wingnut, I went to the web site you gave me, In the interest of the future of the earth I urge you to always reuse your tin foil hat. Please do not make a new one each day. we ned to conserve tin foil.</p>
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		<title>By: Tree</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/02/adding-insult-to-injury/#comment-39945</link>
		<dc:creator>Tree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 20:57:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>:-)</p>
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		<title>By: danny ray</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/02/adding-insult-to-injury/#comment-39944</link>
		<dc:creator>danny ray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 20:52:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have  it I have it, It wil be harder for some than others to go back to the land.
 As for me 
yes I am a pirate.
 two hundred years to late.
the cannon don&#039;t thunder, 
There&#039;s nothing to plunder.
I&#039;m just an over fourty victim of fate

Have a blessed day Tree :-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have  it I have it, It wil be harder for some than others to go back to the land.<br />
 As for me<br />
yes I am a pirate.<br />
 two hundred years to late.<br />
the cannon don&#8217;t thunder,<br />
There&#8217;s nothing to plunder.<br />
I&#8217;m just an over fourty victim of fate</p>
<p>Have a blessed day Tree :-)</p>
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		<title>By: Tree</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/02/adding-insult-to-injury/#comment-39938</link>
		<dc:creator>Tree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 20:17:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There was a factory
Now there are mountains and rivers
You got it, you got it

We caught a rattlesnake
Now we got something for dinner
We got it, we got it

There was a shopping mall
Now it`s all covered with flowers
You`ve got it, you`ve got it

If this is paradise
I wish i had a lawnmower
You`ve got it, you`ve got it

Years ago
I was an angry young man
I`d pretend
That i was a billboard
Standing tall
By the side of the road
I fell in love
With a beautiful highway
This used to be real estate
Now it`s only fields and trees
Where, where is the town
Now, it`s nothing but flowers
The highways and cars
Were sacrificed for agriculture
I thought that we`d start over
But i guess i was wrong

Once there were parking lots
Now it`s a peaceful oasis
You got it, you got it

This was a pizza hut
Now it`s all covered with daisies
You got it, you got it

I miss the honky tonks,
Dairy queens, and 7-elevens
You got it, you got it

And as things fell apart
Nobody paid much attention
You got it, you got it

I dream of cherry pies,
Candy bars, and chocolate chip cookies
You got it, you got it

We used to microwave
Now we just eat nuts and berries
You got it, you got it

This was a discount store,
Now it`s turned into a cornfield
You got it, you got it

Don`t leave me stranded here
I can`t get used to this lifestyle]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There was a factory<br />
Now there are mountains and rivers<br />
You got it, you got it</p>
<p>We caught a rattlesnake<br />
Now we got something for dinner<br />
We got it, we got it</p>
<p>There was a shopping mall<br />
Now it`s all covered with flowers<br />
You`ve got it, you`ve got it</p>
<p>If this is paradise<br />
I wish i had a lawnmower<br />
You`ve got it, you`ve got it</p>
<p>Years ago<br />
I was an angry young man<br />
I`d pretend<br />
That i was a billboard<br />
Standing tall<br />
By the side of the road<br />
I fell in love<br />
With a beautiful highway<br />
This used to be real estate<br />
Now it`s only fields and trees<br />
Where, where is the town<br />
Now, it`s nothing but flowers<br />
The highways and cars<br />
Were sacrificed for agriculture<br />
I thought that we`d start over<br />
But i guess i was wrong</p>
<p>Once there were parking lots<br />
Now it`s a peaceful oasis<br />
You got it, you got it</p>
<p>This was a pizza hut<br />
Now it`s all covered with daisies<br />
You got it, you got it</p>
<p>I miss the honky tonks,<br />
Dairy queens, and 7-elevens<br />
You got it, you got it</p>
<p>And as things fell apart<br />
Nobody paid much attention<br />
You got it, you got it</p>
<p>I dream of cherry pies,<br />
Candy bars, and chocolate chip cookies<br />
You got it, you got it</p>
<p>We used to microwave<br />
Now we just eat nuts and berries<br />
You got it, you got it</p>
<p>This was a discount store,<br />
Now it`s turned into a cornfield<br />
You got it, you got it</p>
<p>Don`t leave me stranded here<br />
I can`t get used to this lifestyle</p>
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		<title>By: Wingnut</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/02/adding-insult-to-injury/#comment-39934</link>
		<dc:creator>Wingnut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 19:59:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Danny Ray... thanks for the comments.  I am not a designer of monetary-discriminationless survival/supply systems... but I have stated some ideas over at...

http://www.chancelitton.com/?p=131

Its easier for you to go there as wanted... than it is for me to re-type my ideas.  Put simply, it would require a USA military-type of survival system, but instead of the &quot;team&quot; doing war, it does work to ensure inventory levels of team supplies, never fails... no matter how many requisitions for supplies come-in from the &quot;team world&quot; members (everyone).  All luxuries go into repositories to be shared by all... just like the military does with &quot;rec services&quot; and &quot;base supply&quot; (GSA store).  We&#039;d need to use our computer networking, our ownersless resource distribution system, and our hearts and brains... to their fullest.  For the first time, we&#039;d become &quot;civilized&quot; instead of rat-racing.  

There are MANY experts in designing proper monetary-discriminationless communes/communities.  I&#039;m not one of them... I just know how to be fair and kind.  My main priority is to &quot;bust&quot; felony pyramid schemes like capitalism.  Lets hope we don&#039;t have to put all the caps in federal prison for negligent homicide... because... i don&#039;t think we have enough jails.  Besides, loving Christian-ish Amish Quakerish communes and their people... don&#039;t punish for gullibles being lured into pyramid schemes.  We&#039;re too kind for that.  

As soon as the caps want to promote sharing instead of billing, and are willing to follow New America&#039;s VERY STRICT fairness/equality laws, they will certainly be loved and accepted into the commune just like every other living thing on the planet.  We will be stopping the &quot;cropping&quot; of animals and planets, too... so we best get some experts in &quot;fallen&quot; fruits, nuts, and grains.  People won&#039;t be allowed to pick it or shake it off the tree.  All we can do is catch it in &quot;fall&quot; nets, and the only meat we&#039;ll be eating or carcasses used for something... will be after the animal or plant dies of old age.  Needless to say, we&#039;ll be planting about 3/4 of the nation with groves and orchards... per where the plants best like to grow.  

Its a long trail, danray.  Ready to head out?  Sure you are.  Cooperative systems are way better than competitive systems... and survival on the planet... requires we shift that paradigm immediately.  Go read all about it and/or pout your brains out and bash me... have fun.  Best!  Wing McNutt]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Danny Ray&#8230; thanks for the comments.  I am not a designer of monetary-discriminationless survival/supply systems&#8230; but I have stated some ideas over at&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.chancelitton.com/?p=131" rel="nofollow">http://www.chancelitton.com/?p=131</a></p>
<p>Its easier for you to go there as wanted&#8230; than it is for me to re-type my ideas.  Put simply, it would require a USA military-type of survival system, but instead of the &#8220;team&#8221; doing war, it does work to ensure inventory levels of team supplies, never fails&#8230; no matter how many requisitions for supplies come-in from the &#8220;team world&#8221; members (everyone).  All luxuries go into repositories to be shared by all&#8230; just like the military does with &#8220;rec services&#8221; and &#8220;base supply&#8221; (GSA store).  We&#8217;d need to use our computer networking, our ownersless resource distribution system, and our hearts and brains&#8230; to their fullest.  For the first time, we&#8217;d become &#8220;civilized&#8221; instead of rat-racing.  </p>
<p>There are MANY experts in designing proper monetary-discriminationless communes/communities.  I&#8217;m not one of them&#8230; I just know how to be fair and kind.  My main priority is to &#8220;bust&#8221; felony pyramid schemes like capitalism.  Lets hope we don&#8217;t have to put all the caps in federal prison for negligent homicide&#8230; because&#8230; i don&#8217;t think we have enough jails.  Besides, loving Christian-ish Amish Quakerish communes and their people&#8230; don&#8217;t punish for gullibles being lured into pyramid schemes.  We&#8217;re too kind for that.  </p>
<p>As soon as the caps want to promote sharing instead of billing, and are willing to follow New America&#8217;s VERY STRICT fairness/equality laws, they will certainly be loved and accepted into the commune just like every other living thing on the planet.  We will be stopping the &#8220;cropping&#8221; of animals and planets, too&#8230; so we best get some experts in &#8220;fallen&#8221; fruits, nuts, and grains.  People won&#8217;t be allowed to pick it or shake it off the tree.  All we can do is catch it in &#8220;fall&#8221; nets, and the only meat we&#8217;ll be eating or carcasses used for something&#8230; will be after the animal or plant dies of old age.  Needless to say, we&#8217;ll be planting about 3/4 of the nation with groves and orchards&#8230; per where the plants best like to grow.  </p>
<p>Its a long trail, danray.  Ready to head out?  Sure you are.  Cooperative systems are way better than competitive systems&#8230; and survival on the planet&#8230; requires we shift that paradigm immediately.  Go read all about it and/or pout your brains out and bash me&#8230; have fun.  Best!  Wing McNutt</p>
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		<title>By: danny ray</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/02/adding-insult-to-injury/#comment-39917</link>
		<dc:creator>danny ray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 17:52:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh yes, and to the origanal artical, Thank you Elizabeth for bring this to peoples attention I had no idea that this was happening. This needs to be stopped and right damn quick. People who have lost their jobs have enough baggage along to have to put up with the fucking banks ripping them off. this is Corporate greed at its worst.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh yes, and to the origanal artical, Thank you Elizabeth for bring this to peoples attention I had no idea that this was happening. This needs to be stopped and right damn quick. People who have lost their jobs have enough baggage along to have to put up with the fucking banks ripping them off. this is Corporate greed at its worst.</p>
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		<title>By: danny ray</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/02/adding-insult-to-injury/#comment-39916</link>
		<dc:creator>danny ray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 17:45:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wing Nut,

Well I have been sitting here for about an hour trying to get my head around your concept of no money and no barter system. I think you have a grand idea !!! lets see what we need to do to achieve your utopia.

Well first off there just too many of us on the third rock from the sun to all go back to a hunter-gatherer lifestyle. Therefore, we find a way to induce about six and a quarter billion to go away. Since we will not be spending filthy money on things like a space program to send them to other planets so that they can pollute it with their ignorant bartering. Therefore, the only alternative I see is to use the excess people on this planet for compost.  By the by that will not be very popular. Some of them will not understand that it’s for the best and they may raise a ruckus. Well we will also have to have someone choose who those 6.25 billion people are and they will not have to time to forage for them selves being busy choosing the people for a dirt nap. We will have to feed them, so we will have come up with a new ruling class, cause you can bet your ass that the people who don’t bring the choosers a deer carcass or a basket of cattail roots will be on the next cull list.
Uhoh we have fallen back to bartering again. 

Then we need to keep the population down. That may not be as hard as you think. What with all the doctors out chasing bunnies and wild plants to survive, they may be a littler to busy for things like neonatal and elder care. That should push the infant mortality to around 80% and the life span down to about 36. add that to the fact that appendectomies and hernia operations usually do not end so well when they are done in a mud hut with out pain killers.

I see your point soooo clearly, life was so grand back in the Pleistocene. Maybe before we get rid of all the excess people we could find a way to bring mammoths and other mega fauna back to keep our lives interesting. I mean who in the hell would want to watch corporate television when they could play stoop tag with a wooly rhino. 

Yes Wing nut modern life really sucks, I just have one question. How in the hell will you write this stupid shit when you will have to forage at least 10 hours a day to keep body and soul together, Oh that’s right you don’t have a soul do you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wing Nut,</p>
<p>Well I have been sitting here for about an hour trying to get my head around your concept of no money and no barter system. I think you have a grand idea !!! lets see what we need to do to achieve your utopia.</p>
<p>Well first off there just too many of us on the third rock from the sun to all go back to a hunter-gatherer lifestyle. Therefore, we find a way to induce about six and a quarter billion to go away. Since we will not be spending filthy money on things like a space program to send them to other planets so that they can pollute it with their ignorant bartering. Therefore, the only alternative I see is to use the excess people on this planet for compost.  By the by that will not be very popular. Some of them will not understand that it’s for the best and they may raise a ruckus. Well we will also have to have someone choose who those 6.25 billion people are and they will not have to time to forage for them selves being busy choosing the people for a dirt nap. We will have to feed them, so we will have come up with a new ruling class, cause you can bet your ass that the people who don’t bring the choosers a deer carcass or a basket of cattail roots will be on the next cull list.<br />
Uhoh we have fallen back to bartering again. </p>
<p>Then we need to keep the population down. That may not be as hard as you think. What with all the doctors out chasing bunnies and wild plants to survive, they may be a littler to busy for things like neonatal and elder care. That should push the infant mortality to around 80% and the life span down to about 36. add that to the fact that appendectomies and hernia operations usually do not end so well when they are done in a mud hut with out pain killers.</p>
<p>I see your point soooo clearly, life was so grand back in the Pleistocene. Maybe before we get rid of all the excess people we could find a way to bring mammoths and other mega fauna back to keep our lives interesting. I mean who in the hell would want to watch corporate television when they could play stoop tag with a wooly rhino. </p>
<p>Yes Wing nut modern life really sucks, I just have one question. How in the hell will you write this stupid shit when you will have to forage at least 10 hours a day to keep body and soul together, Oh that’s right you don’t have a soul do you.</p>
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		<title>By: Tree</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/02/adding-insult-to-injury/#comment-39900</link>
		<dc:creator>Tree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 15:04:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wingnut, I&#039;m pretty sure there&#039;s no commenter here who can hurt my feelings.  

As for being Awake.  I&#039;m awake enough to know all that you wrote of above about conspiracies really doesn&#039;t matter and that you seem to worship the almighty dollar just as intensely as a capitalist, only in a different way.

Your either/or, black and white thinking got you in quite a mental bind so in order to bring all of that to its logical conclusion, you have swept all of humanity into these extreme categories.  While it may or may not be correct, I&#039;m sure it puts your own mind at ease.

And in light of your last couple of sentences, let me remind you as you type away on your computer that you are part of this system you have described, too.  Did you think it was different and that you are somehow apart of all of it?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wingnut, I&#8217;m pretty sure there&#8217;s no commenter here who can hurt my feelings.  </p>
<p>As for being Awake.  I&#8217;m awake enough to know all that you wrote of above about conspiracies really doesn&#8217;t matter and that you seem to worship the almighty dollar just as intensely as a capitalist, only in a different way.</p>
<p>Your either/or, black and white thinking got you in quite a mental bind so in order to bring all of that to its logical conclusion, you have swept all of humanity into these extreme categories.  While it may or may not be correct, I&#8217;m sure it puts your own mind at ease.</p>
<p>And in light of your last couple of sentences, let me remind you as you type away on your computer that you are part of this system you have described, too.  Did you think it was different and that you are somehow apart of all of it?</p>
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		<title>By: Wingnut</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/02/adding-insult-to-injury/#comment-39899</link>
		<dc:creator>Wingnut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 14:39:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tree, I certainly didn&#039;t mean to hurt your feelings.  That is never my intent... and I hope I didn&#039;t.  In fact, I respect you to the point of informing you of a potential &quot;other side to the story&quot;.  

You can see the servitude infestation in capitalism (inequal pay and many people working FOR others instead-of WITH others).  If you&#039;re awake as you say, you see that.  It rampant.  Capitalists do &quot;orders&quot; and &quot;order&quot; things and people around... with the power of their greenpaper rationing coupons.  Starve people enough, and they&#039;ll gladly jump thru hoops (get a job aboard the imperialism) to obtain those papers.  Dolphin Shows 101... luring.

And if you&#039;re awake, you see the pyramid scheme symbol on the back of the USA dollar bill.  And if you&#039;re awake, you know where all the Illuminati and Free Mason symbols are... on the dollar.  You know about the tiny owl picture, and about the many occurrences of the very Masonic numbers 13 and 33... in various places on the AmWay rat-racing coupon (dollar).  

If you are awake, you know about spirography (what goes around, comes around, after being handed-on a thousand times)... so you know all loving/giving that you &quot;issue&quot;, comes back to you.  And you know that all billing/demanding/timecarding/invoicing/fear that you issue... does exactly the same.  You&#039;re awake enough to know which spirography direction is the best one, right?  

Did you join the billers (capitalism) and leave behind the givers (Christianity)?  Were you FORCED to join the billers... because that organization had price tags blocking all the survival supplies?   And was the &quot;requirement&quot; of THAT price tag &quot;fording&quot;... forced upon you because all the survival land was &quot;owned&quot; when you arrived here?  Was all the land and &quot;things&quot;... entitlement-protected and police-gun-protected... so you had no OTHER way to (af)FORD blockades to survival supplies?  You HAD TO use money, or die?  Thus you were forced to join the competer&#039;s church and use THEIR papers and praise THAT organization/way as THE Messiah of all survival systems... even while you KNOW its disgustingly monetarily-discriminating?

C&#039;mon, shrug it off and say &quot;that&#039;s life&quot; like the sheeple.  Call pyramiding a human nature or God-made thing.  Go ahead.  The Earth creators are watching right this second.  Wash your hands of it... say its not your problem... say it doesn&#039;t directly affect you... say &quot;yay America, aren&#039;t we great&quot;, put on the blinders and the rose-colored glasses, see no evil, hear no evil, monkey see, monkey do.  Lets all say the handwashers/forsakers prayer... shall we?

&quot;Others are doing it, so it must be normal.  If its normal, it must be ok.  If its ok, it must be good.  If its good, it must be right.  Amen.&quot;  :)

Bestest!
Wingy]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tree, I certainly didn&#8217;t mean to hurt your feelings.  That is never my intent&#8230; and I hope I didn&#8217;t.  In fact, I respect you to the point of informing you of a potential &#8220;other side to the story&#8221;.  </p>
<p>You can see the servitude infestation in capitalism (inequal pay and many people working FOR others instead-of WITH others).  If you&#8217;re awake as you say, you see that.  It rampant.  Capitalists do &#8220;orders&#8221; and &#8220;order&#8221; things and people around&#8230; with the power of their greenpaper rationing coupons.  Starve people enough, and they&#8217;ll gladly jump thru hoops (get a job aboard the imperialism) to obtain those papers.  Dolphin Shows 101&#8230; luring.</p>
<p>And if you&#8217;re awake, you see the pyramid scheme symbol on the back of the USA dollar bill.  And if you&#8217;re awake, you know where all the Illuminati and Free Mason symbols are&#8230; on the dollar.  You know about the tiny owl picture, and about the many occurrences of the very Masonic numbers 13 and 33&#8230; in various places on the AmWay rat-racing coupon (dollar).  </p>
<p>If you are awake, you know about spirography (what goes around, comes around, after being handed-on a thousand times)&#8230; so you know all loving/giving that you &#8220;issue&#8221;, comes back to you.  And you know that all billing/demanding/timecarding/invoicing/fear that you issue&#8230; does exactly the same.  You&#8217;re awake enough to know which spirography direction is the best one, right?  </p>
<p>Did you join the billers (capitalism) and leave behind the givers (Christianity)?  Were you FORCED to join the billers&#8230; because that organization had price tags blocking all the survival supplies?   And was the &#8220;requirement&#8221; of THAT price tag &#8220;fording&#8221;&#8230; forced upon you because all the survival land was &#8220;owned&#8221; when you arrived here?  Was all the land and &#8220;things&#8221;&#8230; entitlement-protected and police-gun-protected&#8230; so you had no OTHER way to (af)FORD blockades to survival supplies?  You HAD TO use money, or die?  Thus you were forced to join the competer&#8217;s church and use THEIR papers and praise THAT organization/way as THE Messiah of all survival systems&#8230; even while you KNOW its disgustingly monetarily-discriminating?</p>
<p>C&#8217;mon, shrug it off and say &#8220;that&#8217;s life&#8221; like the sheeple.  Call pyramiding a human nature or God-made thing.  Go ahead.  The Earth creators are watching right this second.  Wash your hands of it&#8230; say its not your problem&#8230; say it doesn&#8217;t directly affect you&#8230; say &#8220;yay America, aren&#8217;t we great&#8221;, put on the blinders and the rose-colored glasses, see no evil, hear no evil, monkey see, monkey do.  Lets all say the handwashers/forsakers prayer&#8230; shall we?</p>
<p>&#8220;Others are doing it, so it must be normal.  If its normal, it must be ok.  If its ok, it must be good.  If its good, it must be right.  Amen.&#8221;  :)</p>
<p>Bestest!<br />
Wingy</p>
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		<title>By: Tree</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/02/adding-insult-to-injury/#comment-39816</link>
		<dc:creator>Tree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 13:27:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wingnut, you may have some points here I may agree with but I have little patience to wade too deeply into  your deconstructionist language.  Also, I find a lot of your views to be naive and misinformed.  
I&#039;m not a slave.  I am Awake and I refuse to allow you to define me as someone who is enslaved to anything.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wingnut, you may have some points here I may agree with but I have little patience to wade too deeply into  your deconstructionist language.  Also, I find a lot of your views to be naive and misinformed.<br />
I&#8217;m not a slave.  I am Awake and I refuse to allow you to define me as someone who is enslaved to anything.</p>
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		<title>By: Wingnut</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/02/adding-insult-to-injury/#comment-39811</link>
		<dc:creator>Wingnut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 12:40:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi everyone.  Tree, the slavery comes from two main sources.  

First, their are free-marketeer&#039;s price tags blockading the survival supplies, and only free marketeers (competer&#039;s church) coupons are accepted in order to afFORD (get past/over) them and utilize the supplies.  Christian/cooperators money should be allowed as well, and so should those who abhor economies and ownership like myself.  If America is a land of freedom and choice, why don&#039;t capitalism/economy haters get to eat and &quot;ford&quot; the capitalism0invented cost-of-living via price-tagging everything for each other?  That&#039;s forced religion.  Capitalism is using pricce tag blockades to extortion/railroad the 18 year olds into using ONLY that system... which is a pyramid scheme.... illegal and immoral.  Capitalism is a rat-racing system.

Second, capitalism enslaves via the use of police-gun-backed ownership... thus blocking us folks who KNOW DAMNED WELL that ownership is a &quot;made-up&quot; thing... from getting some Earth land to use... to make communes and build cooperative societies instead of competitive ones.  We anti-capitalists are also blocked by price tags and ownership... from operating television and radio stations... so we never get to re-teach about how wonderful communes, potlucks, barnraisings, and the well-enforced equality policies seen in church playgrounds... are.  

Ownership is fake.  Not a single other living thing on the planet uses ownership or economies... nor the tons of garbage that go with them.  The overwhelming competer&#039;s church and pyramid scheme-o-servitude-infestation called capitalism, is getting in the way of us Christians and our attempts to save the planet.  (its ok, all pyramids like capitalism collapse on their owned)

We have been enslaved... to greenstamps and entitles of ownership... quite against our will, freedom, and choice.  You have, too... if you only stop to think about it.  (No, it isn&#039;t &quot;that&#039;s life&quot; or &quot;that&#039;s reality&quot;, its a man-made thing, likely by the Colombian chapter of the Free Masons; ie. district of Colombia).

Look to the USA military supply system and USA public library system... for proper and moral socialisms.  You won&#039;t see monetary discrimination going-on in those places... because... they are moral, or at least attempt to be.  Capitalism isn&#039;t even in the ballpark.  Do a Google image search for &#039;pyramid of capitalist&#039;... see a picture of what you (capitalist free-joiners and force-ins) bought into when you started honoring money and entitles of ownership.  Its a con/sham.   Busyness (business).

Yep, you got placed into a &quot;cost of living&quot; when your parents sharktanked you into capitalism at around age 18.  Nice tradition/railroading/bandwagoning, eh?  Did you follow Life Magazine instead of the Bible... for establishing your intestinal fortitude?  That&#039;s how it happens for most greenstamp/entitlement chasers and capitalism buy-ins.  Best Regards!

Larry &quot;Wingnut&quot; Wendlandt
MaStars - Mothers Against Stuff That Ain&#039;t Right
(anti-capitalism-ists) (system fighters, not people fighters)
Bessemer MI USA]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi everyone.  Tree, the slavery comes from two main sources.  </p>
<p>First, their are free-marketeer&#8217;s price tags blockading the survival supplies, and only free marketeers (competer&#8217;s church) coupons are accepted in order to afFORD (get past/over) them and utilize the supplies.  Christian/cooperators money should be allowed as well, and so should those who abhor economies and ownership like myself.  If America is a land of freedom and choice, why don&#8217;t capitalism/economy haters get to eat and &#8220;ford&#8221; the capitalism0invented cost-of-living via price-tagging everything for each other?  That&#8217;s forced religion.  Capitalism is using pricce tag blockades to extortion/railroad the 18 year olds into using ONLY that system&#8230; which is a pyramid scheme&#8230;. illegal and immoral.  Capitalism is a rat-racing system.</p>
<p>Second, capitalism enslaves via the use of police-gun-backed ownership&#8230; thus blocking us folks who KNOW DAMNED WELL that ownership is a &#8220;made-up&#8221; thing&#8230; from getting some Earth land to use&#8230; to make communes and build cooperative societies instead of competitive ones.  We anti-capitalists are also blocked by price tags and ownership&#8230; from operating television and radio stations&#8230; so we never get to re-teach about how wonderful communes, potlucks, barnraisings, and the well-enforced equality policies seen in church playgrounds&#8230; are.  </p>
<p>Ownership is fake.  Not a single other living thing on the planet uses ownership or economies&#8230; nor the tons of garbage that go with them.  The overwhelming competer&#8217;s church and pyramid scheme-o-servitude-infestation called capitalism, is getting in the way of us Christians and our attempts to save the planet.  (its ok, all pyramids like capitalism collapse on their owned)</p>
<p>We have been enslaved&#8230; to greenstamps and entitles of ownership&#8230; quite against our will, freedom, and choice.  You have, too&#8230; if you only stop to think about it.  (No, it isn&#8217;t &#8220;that&#8217;s life&#8221; or &#8220;that&#8217;s reality&#8221;, its a man-made thing, likely by the Colombian chapter of the Free Masons; ie. district of Colombia).</p>
<p>Look to the USA military supply system and USA public library system&#8230; for proper and moral socialisms.  You won&#8217;t see monetary discrimination going-on in those places&#8230; because&#8230; they are moral, or at least attempt to be.  Capitalism isn&#8217;t even in the ballpark.  Do a Google image search for &#8216;pyramid of capitalist&#8217;&#8230; see a picture of what you (capitalist free-joiners and force-ins) bought into when you started honoring money and entitles of ownership.  Its a con/sham.   Busyness (business).</p>
<p>Yep, you got placed into a &#8220;cost of living&#8221; when your parents sharktanked you into capitalism at around age 18.  Nice tradition/railroading/bandwagoning, eh?  Did you follow Life Magazine instead of the Bible&#8230; for establishing your intestinal fortitude?  That&#8217;s how it happens for most greenstamp/entitlement chasers and capitalism buy-ins.  Best Regards!</p>
<p>Larry &#8220;Wingnut&#8221; Wendlandt<br />
MaStars &#8211; Mothers Against Stuff That Ain&#8217;t Right<br />
(anti-capitalism-ists) (system fighters, not people fighters)<br />
Bessemer MI USA</p>
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		<title>By: catherine</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/02/adding-insult-to-injury/#comment-39789</link>
		<dc:creator>catherine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 02:35:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Michael, good on ya. For heaven&#039;s sake, make sure this state of affairs continues.  From across the pond.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael, good on ya. For heaven&#8217;s sake, make sure this state of affairs continues.  From across the pond.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Kenny</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/02/adding-insult-to-injury/#comment-39712</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Kenny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 14:36:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Viewed from Europe, this is utterly astounding. Over here, employer contributions are paid in respect of each person employed and are not affected by benefits paid to former employees. An employer has absolutely no standing to challenge ex-employees&#039; benefits and, indeed, would obtain no advantage by doing so.  The encouraging side, from our point of view, is that after 25 years of trying to destroy the European welfare state, US neo-liberals have never succeeded in doing more than chipping a few bits off the edge. The essential core is still there and, now that the tide has turned, can be built on.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Viewed from Europe, this is utterly astounding. Over here, employer contributions are paid in respect of each person employed and are not affected by benefits paid to former employees. An employer has absolutely no standing to challenge ex-employees&#8217; benefits and, indeed, would obtain no advantage by doing so.  The encouraging side, from our point of view, is that after 25 years of trying to destroy the European welfare state, US neo-liberals have never succeeded in doing more than chipping a few bits off the edge. The essential core is still there and, now that the tide has turned, can be built on.</p>
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		<title>By: Tree</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/02/adding-insult-to-injury/#comment-39708</link>
		<dc:creator>Tree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 13:59:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Since when is providing oneself with food shelter and clothing modern slavery?  
The hyperbole and earnest, moralizing finger pointing from some of the commenters is too much to stomach.   I&#039;d love to know how many of you engage in reality on a regular basis and deal with how things really are instead of how they should be.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since when is providing oneself with food shelter and clothing modern slavery?<br />
The hyperbole and earnest, moralizing finger pointing from some of the commenters is too much to stomach.   I&#8217;d love to know how many of you engage in reality on a regular basis and deal with how things really are instead of how they should be.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Koontz</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/02/adding-insult-to-injury/#comment-39698</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Koontz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 05:50:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;So, WHY do we chase these greenpapers?&quot;

Unless one is a very unusual person one needs money to survive, much less thrive. Often the alternative is crime (as defined by the same people who produce the greenpapers), which makes both surviving and thriving that much more difficult.

Chasing the greenpapers is the path of least resistance, and in many cases is the only reasonable option.

Successful slavery is a matter of controlling people&#039;s choices. Chasing the greenpapers is merely one part of modern slavery.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;So, WHY do we chase these greenpapers?&#8221;</p>
<p>Unless one is a very unusual person one needs money to survive, much less thrive. Often the alternative is crime (as defined by the same people who produce the greenpapers), which makes both surviving and thriving that much more difficult.</p>
<p>Chasing the greenpapers is the path of least resistance, and in many cases is the only reasonable option.</p>
<p>Successful slavery is a matter of controlling people&#8217;s choices. Chasing the greenpapers is merely one part of modern slavery.</p>
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		<title>By: rosemarie jackowski</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/02/adding-insult-to-injury/#comment-39657</link>
		<dc:creator>rosemarie jackowski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 20:01:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good article. This type of abuse of workers has been going on for years. It is getting worse now.
Some people are avoiding foreclosure and homelessness by joining the &quot;Produce the Document&quot; movement.  I don&#039;t know how to fix the problem of employer abuse of workers.  Some companies actually pay supervisors to write false documents against workers so that they can be fired &quot;for cause&quot; even when there is no REAL cause for dismissal.  All of this, plus a Court system that is run on money and corrupt &#039;expert witnesses&#039; results in NO possibility of justice. 
Folks in my neck of the woods are buying guns and preparing for the unknown. The problem with that is that too many don&#039;t recognize who the real enemy is.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good article. This type of abuse of workers has been going on for years. It is getting worse now.<br />
Some people are avoiding foreclosure and homelessness by joining the &#8220;Produce the Document&#8221; movement.  I don&#8217;t know how to fix the problem of employer abuse of workers.  Some companies actually pay supervisors to write false documents against workers so that they can be fired &#8220;for cause&#8221; even when there is no REAL cause for dismissal.  All of this, plus a Court system that is run on money and corrupt &#8216;expert witnesses&#8217; results in NO possibility of justice.<br />
Folks in my neck of the woods are buying guns and preparing for the unknown. The problem with that is that too many don&#8217;t recognize who the real enemy is.</p>
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		<title>By: Wingnut</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/02/adding-insult-to-injury/#comment-39644</link>
		<dc:creator>Wingnut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 16:31:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi!  Ok, let me try to fig this.  

“They’re trying to use my money to make money”.

Dollars don&#039;t have titles of ownership, and they say &quot;Federal Reserve Note&quot; at the top, so one would suspect that they REALLY belong to the federal reserve... a government agency.  So, the capitalism pyramid scheme is OWNED by the government.  And since these AmWay (American Way) coupons (money)... aren&#039;t own-able by citizens, the use of &quot;my&quot; in that statement... doesn&#039;t really apply.  At minimum, these federal reserve greenbacks/greenstamps... are a possession=ownership thing, right?  But even that is somewhat wrong...  because...

In a way, dollars are a symbol or &quot;belief&quot;, much like a free-drink &quot;chip&quot; or &quot;token&quot; that might be issued at a nightclub or bar.  The &quot;token&quot; is owned by the nightclub, not by the holder.  So, WHY do we chase these greenpapers?  Is it because of price tags blocking survival supplies and only AmWay greenstamps are accepted at supply depots (stores)?  Is that what the pyramid scheme symbol on the back of the USA dollar is about?  Is it about service (servitude) to the AmWay imperialism called &quot;the new world order&quot;?  Is capitalism a religion?  False idol?  hmm.  Best Regards!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi!  Ok, let me try to fig this.  </p>
<p>“They’re trying to use my money to make money”.</p>
<p>Dollars don&#8217;t have titles of ownership, and they say &#8220;Federal Reserve Note&#8221; at the top, so one would suspect that they REALLY belong to the federal reserve&#8230; a government agency.  So, the capitalism pyramid scheme is OWNED by the government.  And since these AmWay (American Way) coupons (money)&#8230; aren&#8217;t own-able by citizens, the use of &#8220;my&#8221; in that statement&#8230; doesn&#8217;t really apply.  At minimum, these federal reserve greenbacks/greenstamps&#8230; are a possession=ownership thing, right?  But even that is somewhat wrong&#8230;  because&#8230;</p>
<p>In a way, dollars are a symbol or &#8220;belief&#8221;, much like a free-drink &#8220;chip&#8221; or &#8220;token&#8221; that might be issued at a nightclub or bar.  The &#8220;token&#8221; is owned by the nightclub, not by the holder.  So, WHY do we chase these greenpapers?  Is it because of price tags blocking survival supplies and only AmWay greenstamps are accepted at supply depots (stores)?  Is that what the pyramid scheme symbol on the back of the USA dollar is about?  Is it about service (servitude) to the AmWay imperialism called &#8220;the new world order&#8221;?  Is capitalism a religion?  False idol?  hmm.  Best Regards!</p>
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