Comments on: “Enemy of the Prevailing Order” http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/02/%e2%80%9cenemy-of-the-prevailing-order%e2%80%9d/ a radical newsletter in the struggle for peace and social justice Thu, 08 Dec 2011 15:07:30 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: MrCynic3 http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/02/%e2%80%9cenemy-of-the-prevailing-order%e2%80%9d/#comment-37887 MrCynic3 Thu, 05 Feb 2009 13:37:14 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=6559#comment-37887 Mr. Narin wrote: "Condoleezza Rice pushed for the ‘06 Gaza / West Bank election that Hamas surprised her by winning, and which was acknowledged by President Bush as valid, before he OK’d punishment". Condeezza Rice was not surprised , she expected Hamas to win and that what she wanted. She new Hamas will engage in power struggle with Fatah. The classic "divide and rule" . And with Hamas resistance to the Israelis, the stage will be set for Hamas to be "punished".!! Mr. Narin wrote:
“Condoleezza Rice pushed for the ‘06 Gaza / West Bank election that Hamas surprised her by winning, and which was acknowledged by President Bush as valid, before he OK’d punishment”.

Condeezza Rice was not surprised , she expected Hamas to win and
that what she wanted. She new Hamas will engage in power struggle
with Fatah. The classic “divide and rule” .
And with Hamas resistance to the Israelis, the stage will be set
for Hamas to be “punished”.!!

]]> By: Don Hawkins http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/02/%e2%80%9cenemy-of-the-prevailing-order%e2%80%9d/#comment-37800 Don Hawkins Wed, 04 Feb 2009 11:10:01 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=6559#comment-37800 "The Senate is not in order, the Senate is not in order, will the Senate please come to order and lose the suits and go to work". " Don't worry about those two million people out front that's just the little people and you will have to speak up I can't hear you those little people are a little loud". "I just called our people and those people outside don't have any people they are the people did I say that right what did you say I can't hear you". "You take the blue pill, the story ends and you wake up believing whatever you want to believe. You take the red pill, you stay in wonderland and I show you just how deep the rabbit hole goes". Think of this as kind of a War. “The Senate is not in order, the Senate is not in order, will the Senate please come to order and lose the suits and go to work”. ” Don’t worry about those two million people out front that’s just the little people and you will have to speak up I can’t hear you those little people are a little loud”. “I just called our people and those people outside don’t have any people they are the people did I say that right what did you say I can’t hear you”.

“You take the blue pill, the story ends and you wake up believing whatever you want to believe. You take the red pill, you stay in wonderland and I show you just how deep the rabbit hole goes”.
Think of this as kind of a War.

]]> By: The Angry Peasant http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/02/%e2%80%9cenemy-of-the-prevailing-order%e2%80%9d/#comment-37778 The Angry Peasant Wed, 04 Feb 2009 03:09:48 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=6559#comment-37778 Knowdoubt, You done gone and hit the nail on the head. I couldn't've said it better. Knowdoubt,

You done gone and hit the nail on the head. I couldn’t've said it better.

]]> By: Rahb http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/02/%e2%80%9cenemy-of-the-prevailing-order%e2%80%9d/#comment-37763 Rahb Tue, 03 Feb 2009 23:36:08 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=6559#comment-37763 It's all about, in the words of the Beatles, "I, me, mine..." We're still seeing things as us and them rather than us and us... In the meanwhile - do we even take note, and if we take note are we offended that the cartoon cops are only ever depicted as dealing with blue collar crime? A couple of thugs who given the occasion to steal and bully do so -and our hero comes to the rescue. Hoping that you're uninformed, he continues to distract you with his mini crusade, completely ignoring the giant mining company down the block that, using their power to manipulate the masses with money and fear, pits African against African, man against man, poor against poor, governs distribution of wealth and resources in the community depriving those who already suffer of basic necessities etc., all to assure their bottom line. We're scared of the blue collar criminal and do need defense from him, the program is all too happy to remind us of this - aggrandizing the power of the blue collar criminal only serves to strengthen him and we inevitably call for an unending supply of more of these cartoon cops. In Edmonton, I've heard of homeless people being charged "rent" by the cops too, only for the high quality dark alley -15 ° C doorways, as opposed to the -30°C ones I suppose. Fortunately they aren't as brutal to the common onlooker here, but how far away is it really when they taser the innocent, engage in the economic prejudices that continue to pave our destruction, pepper spray and tear gas people who exercise their right to participate in our so-called "democracy" along with their rights of association and peaceful demonstration, etc? It’s all about, in the words of the Beatles, “I, me, mine…” We’re still seeing things as us and them rather than us and us…
In the meanwhile – do we even take note, and if we take note are we offended that the cartoon cops are only ever depicted as dealing with blue collar crime? A couple of thugs who given the occasion to steal and bully do so -and our hero comes to the rescue. Hoping that you’re uninformed, he continues to distract you with his mini crusade, completely ignoring the giant mining company down the block that, using their power to manipulate the masses with money and fear, pits African against African, man against man, poor against poor, governs distribution of wealth and resources in the community depriving those who already suffer of basic necessities etc., all to assure their bottom line. We’re scared of the blue collar criminal and do need defense from him, the program is all too happy to remind us of this – aggrandizing the power of the blue collar criminal only serves to strengthen him and we inevitably call for an unending supply of more of these cartoon cops. In Edmonton, I’ve heard of homeless people being charged “rent” by the cops too, only for the high quality dark alley -15 ° C doorways, as opposed to the -30°C ones I suppose. Fortunately they aren’t as brutal to the common onlooker here, but how far away is it really when they taser the innocent, engage in the economic prejudices that continue to pave our destruction, pepper spray and tear gas people who exercise their right to participate in our so-called “democracy” along with their rights of association and peaceful demonstration, etc?

]]> By: Don Hawkins http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/02/%e2%80%9cenemy-of-the-prevailing-order%e2%80%9d/#comment-37759 Don Hawkins Tue, 03 Feb 2009 22:44:46 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=6559#comment-37759 The first day in the Senate and very easy to see we are all going deep into the rabbit hole. The best way to describe it is Dinosaur minds hard at work making plans for nobody. We need to get credit going again so people can buy things and we can get back to normal. Wall Street will be again working everything will go back to normal and the moon is made of green cheese. You hear from the floor of the Senate on amendments today I, I, no, I. Then you see them walking around in there suits and if they had wings they would look like penguins. Is what we see a new way of thinking, no the same old way of thinking and this time probably not a second chance. Bold thinking, reason, imagination using the knowledge we have gained over the last few thousand years, no. Here's what we need to hear on the floor of the Senate and seem to be light years away. "Madam President the problems we face are a clear and present danger and we must think of them as kind of a War. This War is in some way's a war against ourselves and we must find a new way of thinking if we care about future generations. During World War Two the economy was changed over quickly and we can do it again this time not to build weapons but build a new World. Just one example Gm can in this war start to build electric cars and changing over big machinery to natural gas and help with low-loss power lines and wind and solar thermal energy systems and that is just one company. It's time to go to work and use our minds. So I am right now proposing an amendment that we think of the problems that face us as kind of a War. Who will join me?" Now after reading that just watch the Senate on c-span and think about that and if the word pathetic doesn't come to mind you probably took the blue pill. Do you read DV Barack? The first day in the Senate and very easy to see we are all going deep into the rabbit hole. The best way to describe it is Dinosaur minds hard at work making plans for nobody. We need to get credit going again so people can buy things and we can get back to normal. Wall Street will be again working everything will go back to normal and the moon is made of green cheese. You hear from the floor of the Senate on amendments today I, I, no, I. Then you see them walking around in there suits and if they had wings they would look like penguins. Is what we see a new way of thinking, no the same old way of thinking and this time probably not a second chance. Bold thinking, reason, imagination using the knowledge we have gained over the last few thousand years, no. Here’s what we need to hear on the floor of the Senate and seem to be light years away. “Madam President the problems we face are a clear and present danger and we must think of them as kind of a War. This War is in some way’s a war against ourselves and we must find a new way of thinking if we care about future generations. During World War Two the economy was changed over quickly and we can do it again this time not to build weapons but build a new World. Just one example Gm can in this war start to build electric cars and changing over big machinery to natural gas and help with low-loss power lines and wind and solar thermal energy systems and that is just one company. It’s time to go to work and use our minds. So I am right now proposing an amendment that we think of the problems that face us as kind of a War. Who will join me?”

Now after reading that just watch the Senate on c-span and think about that and if the word pathetic doesn’t come to mind you probably took the blue pill. Do you read DV Barack?

]]> By: John S. Hatch http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/02/%e2%80%9cenemy-of-the-prevailing-order%e2%80%9d/#comment-37747 John S. Hatch Tue, 03 Feb 2009 20:05:31 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=6559#comment-37747 In Canada, a year and a half ago, a young man came from Poland to join his mother and start a new life. Robert Dzieskanski didn't speak any English, and no interpreter was provided at YVR, Vancouver's International airport. Mr. Dziekanski was left to wander around for approximately 11 hours in a secure area of YVR after being cleared at customs. He became confused and agitated, and eventually the RCMP were called. No one to help, though. After less than a minute, the RCMP tasered Mr. Dzekanski, even though he posed no threat. They tasered him five times, something they would later lie about. They tasered him even as he lay reeling on the ground, frothing at the mouth. His last word was 'Why?' Then they handcuffed him. YVR medics were available, but were not called. Mr. Dzkieskanski stopped breathing. A defibrilator unit was located a few seconds away. It was not employed. The RCMP members stood ten or so metres away from the victim as he lay dying and talked to each other. Maybe about hockey. Not one of them raised a finger to help. When firefighters arrived, they were prevented from rendering proper assistance. The brave Mounties refused to remove Mr. Dzieskanski's handcuffs, even though he was most likely already dead. Later the Mounties tried to steal the memory card of a witness who recorded the events on a cell phone. Then they sent a bunch of their 'members' (and, finally, an interpreter) to Poland to try and dig up dirt on their victim, who they hoped to characterize as a drunk and mentally ustable. They failed. But they 'got' their man. His last word on earth was 'Why?' Idiots. In Canada, a year and a half ago, a young man came from Poland to join his mother and start a new life. Robert Dzieskanski didn’t speak any English, and no interpreter was provided at YVR, Vancouver’s International airport.

Mr. Dziekanski was left to wander around for approximately 11 hours in a secure area of YVR after being cleared at customs.

He became confused and agitated, and eventually the RCMP were called. No one to help, though.

After less than a minute, the RCMP tasered Mr. Dzekanski, even though he posed no threat. They tasered him five times, something they would later lie about. They tasered him even as he lay reeling on the ground, frothing at the mouth. His last word was ‘Why?’

Then they handcuffed him.

YVR medics were available, but were not called.

Mr. Dzkieskanski stopped breathing. A defibrilator unit was located a few seconds away. It was not employed.

The RCMP members stood ten or so metres away from the victim as he lay dying and talked to each other. Maybe about hockey. Not one of them raised a finger to help.

When firefighters arrived, they were prevented from rendering proper assistance. The brave Mounties refused to remove Mr. Dzieskanski’s handcuffs, even though he was most likely already dead.

Later the Mounties tried to steal the memory card of a witness who recorded the events on a cell phone.

Then they sent a bunch of their ‘members’ (and, finally, an interpreter) to Poland to try and dig up dirt on their victim, who they hoped to characterize as a drunk and mentally ustable. They failed.

But they ‘got’ their man.

His last word on earth was ‘Why?’

Idiots.

]]> By: bozh http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/02/%e2%80%9cenemy-of-the-prevailing-order%e2%80%9d/#comment-37745 bozh Tue, 03 Feb 2009 19:48:39 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=6559#comment-37745 no, we'll probably never have pantisocracy; nor do we need one; we need much more equallity than we have now. we need to have at least free education, health care for all, and freedom. once we obtain that we can take another look. we can take a look at media lies and penalize liars. we can look differently at our 'enemies' and manufactured enemies, and so on. natch, media wld accuse us of being utopian even tho we explicitly say and know that utopia (a nonpossibilty) is just a red herring. thnx no, we’ll probably never have pantisocracy; nor do we need one; we need much more equallity than we have now.
we need to have at least free education, health care for all, and freedom.
once we obtain that we can take another look. we can take a look at media lies and penalize liars.
we can look differently at our ‘enemies’ and manufactured enemies, and so on.
natch, media wld accuse us of being utopian even tho we explicitly say and know that utopia (a nonpossibilty) is just a red herring. thnx

]]> By: knowdoubt http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/02/%e2%80%9cenemy-of-the-prevailing-order%e2%80%9d/#comment-37740 knowdoubt Tue, 03 Feb 2009 18:49:30 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=6559#comment-37740 Unfortunately for us, the corruption referred to in these third world countries is much less dangerous than the rampant corruption here in the U.S., particularly in our judicial system. Over there it is out front and in the open and nobody is deceived or under any illusions about it. Here, almost everyone is deceived by the myth of justice and judicial canons and ethics, which makes it much, much more dangerous. Here you risk losing everything, as in career or future, for confronting the evil that surrounds us because it is so well hidden and protected. Whistle Blowers are not revered or protected as the endangered species that they are, or valued for the real public service they do our society and constitutional form of government. Corruption in the US has become institutionalized along with our tolerance and participation in the fraud. We don't dare confront the myth because to do so will jeopardize the economic status and advantages we have achieved. Respectfully submitted in a resigned and docile spirit Unfortunately for us, the corruption referred to in these third world countries is much less dangerous than the rampant corruption here in the U.S., particularly in our judicial system. Over there it is out front and in the open and nobody is deceived or under any illusions about it. Here, almost everyone is deceived by the myth of justice and judicial canons and ethics, which makes it much, much more dangerous. Here you risk losing everything, as in career or future, for confronting the evil that surrounds us because it is so well hidden and protected. Whistle Blowers are not revered or protected as the endangered species that they are, or valued for the real public service they do our society and constitutional form of government.

Corruption in the US has become institutionalized along with our tolerance and participation in the fraud. We don’t dare confront the myth because to do so will jeopardize the economic status and advantages we have achieved. Respectfully submitted in a resigned and docile spirit

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