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		<title>By: AEAZ - A. Myers</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/01/will-ap-ever-stop-lying-for-israel/#comment-36401</link>
		<dc:creator>AEAZ - A. Myers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 11:53:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Logically you can almost guarantee that all atrocities, war and manipulations come from a power / financial motivation covered in a religious overtone. The big banking dynasties of this millennium are behind all of them it seems. We find the evidence of this in the outcomes of each manipulation; the general populous are lambs to the slaughter in this. We are a blood sacrifice for an ultimate aim of total control. The more hate sown between Jews, Hindus, Muslims and Christians the better. The more one nation rises against another the closer we get to worldwide conflict, the bankers and arms peddlers win again because they supply all sides. The more the worldwide economy collapses the better a single currency will sound. These truths are leaving the arena of theory and entering the realms of fact.

Using any terms around zionist ideologies, people falsely equate anti-zionism with anti-semitism (more spin). What I mean when I mention zionist ideologies is not Jews (as many Hassidic Jews are abhorrent of these ideologies) but every strata of society, neo-cons, mormons, jehovahs witnesses, christians, muslims, hindus, freemasons - ALL the upper echelons of religions, finance and politics are infested with racist, zionistic idealogies.

To decide that all Jews are Zionists is to do exactly what they want you to do - they are laughing at you because you are now exactly the same as them, a racists thug! Many Jews are against Zionist ideologies, I am a gentile researcher who has seen much evidence of this.

anti elitist / anti zionist</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Logically you can almost guarantee that all atrocities, war and manipulations come from a power / financial motivation covered in a religious overtone. The big banking dynasties of this millennium are behind all of them it seems. We find the evidence of this in the outcomes of each manipulation; the general populous are lambs to the slaughter in this. We are a blood sacrifice for an ultimate aim of total control. The more hate sown between Jews, Hindus, Muslims and Christians the better. The more one nation rises against another the closer we get to worldwide conflict, the bankers and arms peddlers win again because they supply all sides. The more the worldwide economy collapses the better a single currency will sound. These truths are leaving the arena of theory and entering the realms of fact.</p>
<p>Using any terms around zionist ideologies, people falsely equate anti-zionism with anti-semitism (more spin). What I mean when I mention zionist ideologies is not Jews (as many Hassidic Jews are abhorrent of these ideologies) but every strata of society, neo-cons, mormons, jehovahs witnesses, christians, muslims, hindus, freemasons &#8211; ALL the upper echelons of religions, finance and politics are infested with racist, zionistic idealogies.</p>
<p>To decide that all Jews are Zionists is to do exactly what they want you to do &#8211; they are laughing at you because you are now exactly the same as them, a racists thug! Many Jews are against Zionist ideologies, I am a gentile researcher who has seen much evidence of this.</p>
<p>anti elitist / anti zionist</p>
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		<title>By: dk</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/01/will-ap-ever-stop-lying-for-israel/#comment-36383</link>
		<dc:creator>dk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 07:14:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the AP and other western media are being eclipsed by al-jazeera(arabic) in this situation.graphic images of the israeli horror show are reaching millions of viewers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the AP and other western media are being eclipsed by al-jazeera(arabic) in this situation.graphic images of the israeli horror show are reaching millions of viewers.</p>
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		<title>By: The Angry Peasant</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/01/will-ap-ever-stop-lying-for-israel/#comment-36336</link>
		<dc:creator>The Angry Peasant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 18:37:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Question: Will AP ever stop lying for Israel?

Answer: Nope. Not until that first airborne nuclear warhead can be seen just past the Statue of Liberty.</description>
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<p>Answer: Nope. Not until that first airborne nuclear warhead can be seen just past the Statue of Liberty.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Hawkins</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/01/will-ap-ever-stop-lying-for-israel/#comment-36325</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Hawkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 17:39:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A group of protesters, doctors and lawmakers abandoned a bid to deliver humanitarian aid to Gaza and returned to Cyprus on Monday after their boat experienced engine trouble, a Free Gaza spokeswoman said. 
Karin Pally told The Associated Press that a generator blew three hours into the 24-hour trip, forcing the 66-foot (20-meter), Greek-flagged vessel to return to port in Larnaca. 
 
Damn what is the falsest way to get this boat and these brave people to Gaza.  Humanitarian aid Ted, Bill, Warren, Mr. Murdoch.  CNN go for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A group of protesters, doctors and lawmakers abandoned a bid to deliver humanitarian aid to Gaza and returned to Cyprus on Monday after their boat experienced engine trouble, a Free Gaza spokeswoman said.<br />
Karin Pally told The Associated Press that a generator blew three hours into the 24-hour trip, forcing the 66-foot (20-meter), Greek-flagged vessel to return to port in Larnaca. </p>
<p>Damn what is the falsest way to get this boat and these brave people to Gaza.  Humanitarian aid Ted, Bill, Warren, Mr. Murdoch.  CNN go for it.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Hawkins</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/01/will-ap-ever-stop-lying-for-israel/#comment-36323</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Hawkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 17:23:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bozh take a deep breath you&#039;re going to be alright.  When anybody knows of the boat going into Gaza please put a comment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bozh take a deep breath you&#8217;re going to be alright.  When anybody knows of the boat going into Gaza please put a comment.</p>
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		<title>By: bozh</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/01/will-ap-ever-stop-lying-for-israel/#comment-36308</link>
		<dc:creator>bozh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 15:09:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mandla,
tell me please, you&#039;re not serious about reconfirming  hebrew lies about &#039;god&#039;  appearing  to Moshe and giving him  his/her laws? 
torah the whorah had been written and rewritten by mad priests/liars over 2-3 millennia.
it is an  adulterated book; full of intolerance, hatred, rage, etc.
the mad priests of today are no different than the mad priests of yester years.
and if  &#039;god&#039; existed, why wld she or he chose hebrews only and also speak hebrew only and have only hebrews as her or its spokespeople and prophets. 
prophets, whose silly &#039;prophecies&#039;  were written after the fact.
let&#039;s stop believing in such evil as bible, koran, and torah! all three of these Meine Kaemfen have caused much evil. thnx</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mandla,<br />
tell me please, you&#8217;re not serious about reconfirming  hebrew lies about &#8216;god&#8217;  appearing  to Moshe and giving him  his/her laws?<br />
torah the whorah had been written and rewritten by mad priests/liars over 2-3 millennia.<br />
it is an  adulterated book; full of intolerance, hatred, rage, etc.<br />
the mad priests of today are no different than the mad priests of yester years.<br />
and if  &#8216;god&#8217; existed, why wld she or he chose hebrews only and also speak hebrew only and have only hebrews as her or its spokespeople and prophets.<br />
prophets, whose silly &#8216;prophecies&#8217;  were written after the fact.<br />
let&#8217;s stop believing in such evil as bible, koran, and torah! all three of these Meine Kaemfen have caused much evil. thnx</p>
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		<title>By: mandla</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/01/will-ap-ever-stop-lying-for-israel/#comment-36293</link>
		<dc:creator>mandla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 11:56:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In my part of the world we were brought up believing that certain people went up the mountain Sinai and talked face to face with God and God gave them His very Laws and trusted them with the task of being examples of a people living by His Laws and therefore they were His chosen people. We agrred that there is something very Godly about Mercy, Forgiveness, Remission, unconditional Love and Justice.

The inordinate revenge, the naked hatred, the disregard for life of others especially innocents (women and kids) convince me everyday that we are dealing with a people who have sunk far below the valley of mount Sinai.  

It is not about Hamas rockets, its about the moral depravity and seared consciences that mete out overwhelming and indiscriminate brute force that is by far disproportionate to the &quot;wrong&quot; they try to  &quot;correct&quot;.

Whether they manage to kill every Palestinian, they will never escape the deep and eternal moral questions that every man, child and woman in Israel and the future must answer. Much as anti-semitism is about putting a blanket accusation on a whole people; killing Arabs indiscriminately is genocide. It reveals a deep seated anti-human and anti-life -ism.  No prophet dead or alive in Israel can lift up his head proudly and defend it.

It is one thing to be God very own paragon of holiness and obediance, and yet revel, champion and gloat in the worst in human revenge and hatred. This schizophrenic and Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde split personality  shows a deep seated spiritual crisis; a nati0nal moral crisis and glaring absence of spiritual leadership.

I certainly do not condone Hamas&#039; rockets but using the same principle you dont go about castrating the rapist, and bludgeon the guy who sold him cigerettes before the rape, and demolish his friend&#039;s house from where he emerged before the alleged rape or lynch the guy who taught him how to drive because he arrived at the crime scene in a car or kill the shopkeeper who sold him the rope he used to tie the victim.. There is something fundamentally wrong in Israel. These issues of guilt by association were dealt with by the prophet Ezekiel many centuries ago. There is no one who can claim he or she does not know.  All the prophets, seers, rabbis in Israel , cannot deal with the simple issue of gross inordinate  revenge.  Its the founding principle of Judeo-Christian jurisprudence. Justice without Mercy is unheard of.     

In Genesis 4:23 there is guy (Lamech)  who gloats (to his wives Adah and Zilla) about killing the guy who insulted him; in that passage God is said to be very upset about the wanton violence and indiscriminate shedding of blood.  Its almost remniniscent of Hitler when he blietzkrieged poor vulnerable and non-threatening nations during WWII and then went for the Jews. 

I think I am today a moral paragon and sage(thanks to the moral amnesia of Israel and its leaders)  because I can challenge any Jew in Israel on a moral debate and I wouild enjoy to see how they try to defend the indefensible and how they stumble and fall on the very Laws that Moses received on their behalf  millenia ago at the apex of mount Sinai. 

There is no honour and glory in the slaughter of innocents, God&#039;s Kingdom was never established on blatant murder, because it makes God a fool and a murderer. There is something socio-pathologically sick when I avenge 20 death with 900 deaths. It is a critical point at which whatever claim I may -place on moral jusitification, changes and places me instead in dire moral condemnation. 

There will always be a better way in which the conflict in the Middle East can be peacefully resolved.  By talking, giving, yielding and building the strong walls trust and respect. Rockets, American air-conditioned gunships will never build a lasting peace.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my part of the world we were brought up believing that certain people went up the mountain Sinai and talked face to face with God and God gave them His very Laws and trusted them with the task of being examples of a people living by His Laws and therefore they were His chosen people. We agrred that there is something very Godly about Mercy, Forgiveness, Remission, unconditional Love and Justice.</p>
<p>The inordinate revenge, the naked hatred, the disregard for life of others especially innocents (women and kids) convince me everyday that we are dealing with a people who have sunk far below the valley of mount Sinai.  </p>
<p>It is not about Hamas rockets, its about the moral depravity and seared consciences that mete out overwhelming and indiscriminate brute force that is by far disproportionate to the &#8220;wrong&#8221; they try to  &#8220;correct&#8221;.</p>
<p>Whether they manage to kill every Palestinian, they will never escape the deep and eternal moral questions that every man, child and woman in Israel and the future must answer. Much as anti-semitism is about putting a blanket accusation on a whole people; killing Arabs indiscriminately is genocide. It reveals a deep seated anti-human and anti-life -ism.  No prophet dead or alive in Israel can lift up his head proudly and defend it.</p>
<p>It is one thing to be God very own paragon of holiness and obediance, and yet revel, champion and gloat in the worst in human revenge and hatred. This schizophrenic and Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde split personality  shows a deep seated spiritual crisis; a nati0nal moral crisis and glaring absence of spiritual leadership.</p>
<p>I certainly do not condone Hamas&#8217; rockets but using the same principle you dont go about castrating the rapist, and bludgeon the guy who sold him cigerettes before the rape, and demolish his friend&#8217;s house from where he emerged before the alleged rape or lynch the guy who taught him how to drive because he arrived at the crime scene in a car or kill the shopkeeper who sold him the rope he used to tie the victim.. There is something fundamentally wrong in Israel. These issues of guilt by association were dealt with by the prophet Ezekiel many centuries ago. There is no one who can claim he or she does not know.  All the prophets, seers, rabbis in Israel , cannot deal with the simple issue of gross inordinate  revenge.  Its the founding principle of Judeo-Christian jurisprudence. Justice without Mercy is unheard of.     </p>
<p>In Genesis 4:23 there is guy (Lamech)  who gloats (to his wives Adah and Zilla) about killing the guy who insulted him; in that passage God is said to be very upset about the wanton violence and indiscriminate shedding of blood.  Its almost remniniscent of Hitler when he blietzkrieged poor vulnerable and non-threatening nations during WWII and then went for the Jews. </p>
<p>I think I am today a moral paragon and sage(thanks to the moral amnesia of Israel and its leaders)  because I can challenge any Jew in Israel on a moral debate and I wouild enjoy to see how they try to defend the indefensible and how they stumble and fall on the very Laws that Moses received on their behalf  millenia ago at the apex of mount Sinai. </p>
<p>There is no honour and glory in the slaughter of innocents, God&#8217;s Kingdom was never established on blatant murder, because it makes God a fool and a murderer. There is something socio-pathologically sick when I avenge 20 death with 900 deaths. It is a critical point at which whatever claim I may -place on moral jusitification, changes and places me instead in dire moral condemnation. </p>
<p>There will always be a better way in which the conflict in the Middle East can be peacefully resolved.  By talking, giving, yielding and building the strong walls trust and respect. Rockets, American air-conditioned gunships will never build a lasting peace.</p>
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		<title>By: bozh</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/01/will-ap-ever-stop-lying-for-israel/#comment-36241</link>
		<dc:creator>bozh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 21:52:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the wish to destroy israel and no means with which to do that, cannot be equated with the destruction of palestine and means to destroy the remnnats of it and kill/maim more people. thnx</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the wish to destroy israel and no means with which to do that, cannot be equated with the destruction of palestine and means to destroy the remnnats of it and kill/maim more people. thnx</p>
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