Comments on: What If Israel Was the Victim?

By: Jeremy R. Hammond

Jeremy R. Hammond — Fri, 16 Jan 2009 17:22:02 +0000

“At the end of this, the Zionist will be spewing rumors that it was Hamas that bombed and killed Palestinian civilians, not Israeli military.”

Kind of like the reports I’ve been seeing lately blaming Hamas for the humanitarian crisis.

By: Max Shields

Max Shields — Fri, 16 Jan 2009 16:57:43 +0000

Jeremy,

At the end of this, the Zionist will be spewing rumors that it was Hamas that bombed and killed Palestinian civilians, not Israeli military.

By: Jeremy R. Hammond

Jeremy R. Hammond — Fri, 16 Jan 2009 16:12:06 +0000

“Might be worth pointing out that Hamas have actually fired at least one white phosphorus shell into the Negev, thankfully with no injuries”

I find that an incredible claim. Hamas with WP weaponry? Quite a tall tale.

By: Rob

Rob — Fri, 16 Jan 2009 05:58:17 +0000

Might be worth pointing out that Hamas have actually fired at least one white phosphorus shell into the Negev, thankfully with no injuries

i’ve only found reports in the Israeli media, from YNet News, and the left-wing Ha’aretz, but you may be able to find it elsewhere

By: bozh

bozh — Tue, 13 Jan 2009 17:55:46 +0000

madison,
zionists have started this war in ’45. the latest battle (not war, but tactic) signifies only ‘jewish’ or nonshemitic impotence/madness.
1) zionists have not achieved their goal; whatever it may be? nobody knows; may include zionists.
2)the latest tactic- by gazans since ’07- proves that pals have not been defeated. and, more importantly, there are more shemites in the region than ever.
the latest tactic by israel, which started 8.12.27, proves that israelis are extremely frustrated for the reasons i have just posited.
3) pals have lost battle after battle; they will lose this one if number of dead/maimed are only counted.
the first cause for the conflict is ashkenazic cultism aided by christian countries.
and after some arab lands came to the aid of pals i ’48, we’ve had many ashkenazic tsunamis and palestinian ripples. thnx

By: Madison

Madison — Tue, 13 Jan 2009 14:53:08 +0000

What cities were bombed by gaza? I mean israel didn’t just start this war for no reason.

By: Kim Lang

Kim Lang — Sun, 11 Jan 2009 20:29:50 +0000

If this was the situation in the Present battle US might is itself entered into Battle to Defend Israel.

By: jang

jang — Thu, 08 Jan 2009 11:05:13 +0000

This interesting article proposes an interesting perspective. Suppose all Israeli attacks were made by Palestine and Palestinian attacks by Israel. This undoubtedly creates anger against Palestine. But why isn’t there any against Israel by the U.S.?

Outrageous.

By: Omar

Omar — Thu, 08 Jan 2009 08:52:23 +0000

The problem is that this is how the Israelis and Americans see this conflict. Israel, the eternal victim.

Makes me sick.

By: bozh

bozh — Wed, 07 Jan 2009 18:02:49 +0000

miriam,
you forgot by far the most fact: europeans or ashekenazim stole palestine by warfare and terrorism and by expelling about 7-800 td palestinians.

this means, that if palestinians would ever regain their their millennial (as canaanitic descendants) homeland, socalled jews would either flee for americas and europe and would have forever learned (hopefully) a good lesson: don’t mess with shemites or hamites. thnx

By: Suthiano

Suthiano — Wed, 07 Jan 2009 17:08:31 +0000

ADL is saying that, “”Freedom of speech is not just a right, it is also a responsibility,” and so anti-Israel protesters should not compare Israel’s actions to those of Nazi Germany as doing so amounts to “a deeply cynical perversion of history”, and an attempt to use history as a “bludgeon against Israel” (http://www.adl.org/PresRele/IslME_62/5431_62.htm).

Apparently no such problem exists when the comparisons are made by Israeli politicians themselves. Hence ADL made no comment last year when Israeli deputy defence minister Vilnai promissed a bigger “shoah” or “holocaust” on the people of Gaza if they kept firing rockets on Israel. Is this the “shoah” we are currently witnessing? Where are ADL’s condemnations of Israel’s use of force as a “bludgeon against Palestine?”

By: kalidas

kalidas — Wed, 07 Jan 2009 15:40:23 +0000

Perhaps it’s time to exercise the “Delilah option” on Israel?

By: miriam

miriam — Wed, 07 Jan 2009 13:35:14 +0000

Here’s a thought experiment I saw on the web:

Imagine that Egypt, Jordan, and Syria had won the Six Day War, leading to a massive exodus of Jews from the territory of Israel. Imagine that the victorious Arab states had eventually decided to permit the Palestinians to establish a state of their own on the territory of the former Jewish state. (That’s unlikely, of course, but this is a thought experiment). Imagine that a million or so Jews had ended up as stateless refugees confined to that narrow enclave known as the Gaza Strip. Then imagine that a group of hardline Orthodox Jews took over control of that territory and organized a resistance movement. They also steadfastly refused to recognize the new Palestinian state, arguing that its creation was illegal and that their expulsion from Israel was unjust. Imagine that they obtained backing from sympathizers around the world and that they began to smuggle weapons into the territory. Then imagine that they started firing at Palestinian towns and villages and refused to stop despite continued reprisals and civilian casualties.

Here’s the question: would the United States be denouncing those Jews in Gaza as “terrorists” and encouraging the Palestinian state to use overwhelming force against them?

By: bozh

bozh — Tue, 06 Jan 2009 23:32:30 +0000

russian suggestion appears to make sense. hamas may be ready to srike back as had hizbullah. by calling for truce now, and not prior to israel’s invasion or even day after, EU/US/Israel had shown that all it wanted was to destroy infrastructure and kill lotosf people and then call for truce.
kudos to russia. if hamas don’t want a truce, then let them do their sacred duty to fight back against land stealers. thnx