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		<title>By: James Keye</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/01/tyranny-of-convenience/#comment-37384</link>
		<dc:creator>James Keye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 13:22:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pito,

check out: http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/08/invention-and-progress/  on this site.

While I agree that humans have done much to change the biosphere, we ain&#039;t seen nothin&#039; yet.  If humans can begin to control themselves -- control their adaptive powers as does every other organism -- there is some chance that the amount of disruption of present ecologies will be small enough that the &quot;normal&quot; processes of change can reinstate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pito,</p>
<p>check out: <a href="http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/08/invention-and-progress/" rel="nofollow">http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/08/invention-and-progress/</a>  on this site.</p>
<p>While I agree that humans have done much to change the biosphere, we ain&#8217;t seen nothin&#8217; yet.  If humans can begin to control themselves &#8212; control their adaptive powers as does every other organism &#8212; there is some chance that the amount of disruption of present ecologies will be small enough that the &#8220;normal&#8221; processes of change can reinstate.</p>
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		<title>By: Pito</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/01/tyranny-of-convenience/#comment-37371</link>
		<dc:creator>Pito</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 04:46:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Major extinction and redesigning of the earth&#039;s surface has already taken place.  It is called &quot;progress&quot;.  Mother Nature will have the last word as to what the progress was.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Major extinction and redesigning of the earth&#8217;s surface has already taken place.  It is called &#8220;progress&#8221;.  Mother Nature will have the last word as to what the progress was.</p>
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		<title>By: James Keye</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/01/tyranny-of-convenience/#comment-37251</link>
		<dc:creator>James Keye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2009 13:07:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I certainly agree that the hour is late, and that our relationship with reality is bizarre at the very least, but we don’t know the point of irrevocable ecological collapse.  It may be that the momentum of human action will carry us across that threshold do matter what we do, but then again maybe not.  There will come a moment when only the deepest insanity will deny our reality – such a moment is rapidly approaching – and that is a possible turning point.  If there is a realistic alternative with some possibility of reattaching humanity to the biophysical order ready to be used, then we (and the rest of the extant ecological order) have some chance.  I don’t see that we have another option. Otherwise, economic and ecological collapses, one exacerbating the other, will redesign the earth’s surface in the way of a major extinction event and can in no way be predicted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I certainly agree that the hour is late, and that our relationship with reality is bizarre at the very least, but we don’t know the point of irrevocable ecological collapse.  It may be that the momentum of human action will carry us across that threshold do matter what we do, but then again maybe not.  There will come a moment when only the deepest insanity will deny our reality – such a moment is rapidly approaching – and that is a possible turning point.  If there is a realistic alternative with some possibility of reattaching humanity to the biophysical order ready to be used, then we (and the rest of the extant ecological order) have some chance.  I don’t see that we have another option. Otherwise, economic and ecological collapses, one exacerbating the other, will redesign the earth’s surface in the way of a major extinction event and can in no way be predicted.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Hawkins</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/01/tyranny-of-convenience/#comment-37240</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Hawkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2009 03:02:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The shit has already hit the fan and is being ignored and denied and for only three easy payments of $29.95 plus shipping and handling I will tell you why this is happening just kidding sort of.  Reality is about to over take Bazaar World and perception will have nothing to do with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The shit has already hit the fan and is being ignored and denied and for only three easy payments of $29.95 plus shipping and handling I will tell you why this is happening just kidding sort of.  Reality is about to over take Bazaar World and perception will have nothing to do with it.</p>
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		<title>By: James Keye</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/01/tyranny-of-convenience/#comment-37217</link>
		<dc:creator>James Keye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 18:33:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Hawkins,

The issues that you present are of utmost importance, however, short of an immediate focus in a form of a clear and present danger recognizable to the multitude and the association of that danger with the desires of an economic and political elite, there will be no WWII type of unified response to the terrible dangers that face not only the human species, but also the present ecological balance of the biosphere.

As individuals understand the issues they must act on their own in the ways that others must eventually act for the present ecological relations to be sustained.  There is at least in this method the possibility that a critical mass of action will form and be available as the shit begins to hit the fan, when it cannot be ignored or denied.  This is, I believe, our best hope.  Everyone who begins to understand needs to speak out: to those in earshot, to the local community, to a regional or national audience by whatever means available.  In this way people will be encouraged and supported in their comprehension.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Hawkins,</p>
<p>The issues that you present are of utmost importance, however, short of an immediate focus in a form of a clear and present danger recognizable to the multitude and the association of that danger with the desires of an economic and political elite, there will be no WWII type of unified response to the terrible dangers that face not only the human species, but also the present ecological balance of the biosphere.</p>
<p>As individuals understand the issues they must act on their own in the ways that others must eventually act for the present ecological relations to be sustained.  There is at least in this method the possibility that a critical mass of action will form and be available as the shit begins to hit the fan, when it cannot be ignored or denied.  This is, I believe, our best hope.  Everyone who begins to understand needs to speak out: to those in earshot, to the local community, to a regional or national audience by whatever means available.  In this way people will be encouraged and supported in their comprehension.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Hawkins</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/01/tyranny-of-convenience/#comment-37214</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Hawkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 16:41:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We human’s are out of time to start solving problems climate change, over population and the system we use to keep the economy going will not work anymore. After Obama was elected I have watched the network news and many people’s witting get bazaar and the more bazaar. The fascinating part is so far what this new administration wants to do isn&#039;t even close to what needs to be done. The media has not yet seen the reality of what is to come but they will no choice in the matter. If we are going to try think of this as kind of a war. In World war two we changed over very quickly same thing needs to be done now and years of very hard choices and work and hopefully that new way of thinking will happen along the way. Granted the decision by some has been made to not do what is needed and go out in style sort of and that is where we see the bazaar part with many. I have to admit it is amazing to watch and sad at the same time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We human’s are out of time to start solving problems climate change, over population and the system we use to keep the economy going will not work anymore. After Obama was elected I have watched the network news and many people’s witting get bazaar and the more bazaar. The fascinating part is so far what this new administration wants to do isn&#8217;t even close to what needs to be done. The media has not yet seen the reality of what is to come but they will no choice in the matter. If we are going to try think of this as kind of a war. In World war two we changed over very quickly same thing needs to be done now and years of very hard choices and work and hopefully that new way of thinking will happen along the way. Granted the decision by some has been made to not do what is needed and go out in style sort of and that is where we see the bazaar part with many. I have to admit it is amazing to watch and sad at the same time.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Hawkins</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/01/tyranny-of-convenience/#comment-37169</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Hawkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2009 23:58:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is James Hansen who did the math.
 
This yields an empirical climate sensitivity. It is ¾ C per W/m2 or 3 C for doubled CO2.
This climate sensitivity includes all fast feedback processes: water vapor, clouds, sea ice, snow, and aerosols.
The physics is exact, it is not modeled. All of the feedbacks operate correctly.
 
Two conclusions should be emphasized. First the natural imbalance between geologic sources and sinks of CO2 is of the order of one ten-thousands of a ppm per year. In a million years that can cause a change of 100 ppm.
But the human-made rate of change is today about 2 ppm per year, about ten thousand times greater than the natural rate.
So the assertion that we should not be concerned about human-made climate change, because there have been much larger natural climate changes is nonsense. There have been larger changes, but on very long time scales. On any time scale of interest to humanity, humans will be in charge of the climate change.  James Hansen</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is James Hansen who did the math.</p>
<p>This yields an empirical climate sensitivity. It is ¾ C per W/m2 or 3 C for doubled CO2.<br />
This climate sensitivity includes all fast feedback processes: water vapor, clouds, sea ice, snow, and aerosols.<br />
The physics is exact, it is not modeled. All of the feedbacks operate correctly.</p>
<p>Two conclusions should be emphasized. First the natural imbalance between geologic sources and sinks of CO2 is of the order of one ten-thousands of a ppm per year. In a million years that can cause a change of 100 ppm.<br />
But the human-made rate of change is today about 2 ppm per year, about ten thousand times greater than the natural rate.<br />
So the assertion that we should not be concerned about human-made climate change, because there have been much larger natural climate changes is nonsense. There have been larger changes, but on very long time scales. On any time scale of interest to humanity, humans will be in charge of the climate change.  James Hansen</p>
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		<title>By: Don Hawkins</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/01/tyranny-of-convenience/#comment-37162</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Hawkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2009 22:43:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Analyzing atmospheric CO2 levels for the past 610,000 years 
    
&quot;The researchers found that over hundreds of thousands of years the equilibrium between carbon dioxide input and removal was never more than one to two percent out of balance, a strong indication of a natural feedback system,&quot; wrote Alan Cutler, a science writer for Carnegie. &quot;This natural feedback acts as a thermostat which is critical for the long-term stability of climate. During Earth&#039;s history it has probably helped to prevent runaway greenhouse and icehouse conditions over time scales of millions to billions of years — a prerequisite for sustaining liquid water on Earth&#039;s surface.&quot; 

&quot;The system is finely in tune,&quot; Caldeira told Cutler. &quot;That one or two percent imbalance works out to an average imbalance in natural carbon dioxide emissions that is thousands of times smaller than our current emissions from industry and the destruction of forests.&quot; 

The researchers note that carbon dioxide is presently being added at about 100 times its historic rate of 0.1 billion tons of carbon each year, or approximately 10 billion tons. Most of these emissions result from human industrial activity and conversion of forests. 

&quot;The imbalance in the carbon cycle that we are creating with our emissions is huge compared to the kinds of imbalances seen over the time of the glacial ice core records,&quot; Caldeira said. &quot;We are emitting CO2 far too fast to expect mother nature to mop up our mess anytime soon. Continued burning of coal, oil and gas will result in long-term changes to our climate and to ocean chemistry, lasting many thousands of years.&quot; 
 
Oh I almost forgot something: 
The sun is at a low point in it&#039;s 11-year cycle of activity now. But over the next few years, sunspots will become more common and flares more frequent. The peak will likely occur in 2012 and El Nino will return this summer or next.  Believe it or not still time that is if we try.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Analyzing atmospheric CO2 levels for the past 610,000 years </p>
<p>&#8220;The researchers found that over hundreds of thousands of years the equilibrium between carbon dioxide input and removal was never more than one to two percent out of balance, a strong indication of a natural feedback system,&#8221; wrote Alan Cutler, a science writer for Carnegie. &#8220;This natural feedback acts as a thermostat which is critical for the long-term stability of climate. During Earth&#8217;s history it has probably helped to prevent runaway greenhouse and icehouse conditions over time scales of millions to billions of years — a prerequisite for sustaining liquid water on Earth&#8217;s surface.&#8221; </p>
<p>&#8220;The system is finely in tune,&#8221; Caldeira told Cutler. &#8220;That one or two percent imbalance works out to an average imbalance in natural carbon dioxide emissions that is thousands of times smaller than our current emissions from industry and the destruction of forests.&#8221; </p>
<p>The researchers note that carbon dioxide is presently being added at about 100 times its historic rate of 0.1 billion tons of carbon each year, or approximately 10 billion tons. Most of these emissions result from human industrial activity and conversion of forests. </p>
<p>&#8220;The imbalance in the carbon cycle that we are creating with our emissions is huge compared to the kinds of imbalances seen over the time of the glacial ice core records,&#8221; Caldeira said. &#8220;We are emitting CO2 far too fast to expect mother nature to mop up our mess anytime soon. Continued burning of coal, oil and gas will result in long-term changes to our climate and to ocean chemistry, lasting many thousands of years.&#8221; </p>
<p>Oh I almost forgot something:<br />
The sun is at a low point in it&#8217;s 11-year cycle of activity now. But over the next few years, sunspots will become more common and flares more frequent. The peak will likely occur in 2012 and El Nino will return this summer or next.  Believe it or not still time that is if we try.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Hawkins</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/01/tyranny-of-convenience/#comment-37137</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Hawkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2009 13:36:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David Vaughan from the British Antarctic Survey is on the peninsula right now, keeping a worried eye on the Wilkins Ice Sheet. It was once larger than Connecticut but soon could be gone entirely.

&quot;We landed on the ice shelf just two days ago — flimsy looking piece of ice — and that appears to be hanging on by the skin of its teeth,&quot; Vaughan says. 

It could collapse any time in the next few weeks, he says.

&quot;Not all of Wilkins will disappear overnight but a large part of it could,&quot; Vaughan says.

This ice sheet is already floating on the ocean, so when it melts it won&#039;t raise sea level. But it&#039;s a powerful reminder that change can come quickly — and dramatically — in this land of ice.  NPR</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David Vaughan from the British Antarctic Survey is on the peninsula right now, keeping a worried eye on the Wilkins Ice Sheet. It was once larger than Connecticut but soon could be gone entirely.</p>
<p>&#8220;We landed on the ice shelf just two days ago — flimsy looking piece of ice — and that appears to be hanging on by the skin of its teeth,&#8221; Vaughan says. </p>
<p>It could collapse any time in the next few weeks, he says.</p>
<p>&#8220;Not all of Wilkins will disappear overnight but a large part of it could,&#8221; Vaughan says.</p>
<p>This ice sheet is already floating on the ocean, so when it melts it won&#8217;t raise sea level. But it&#8217;s a powerful reminder that change can come quickly — and dramatically — in this land of ice.  NPR</p>
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		<title>By: James Keye</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/01/tyranny-of-convenience/#comment-37115</link>
		<dc:creator>James Keye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2009 01:19:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What I mean by “There is almost no one left to teach us who we are.” is that humans have a biological nature, certainly among the very most complex; that our nature requires certain environmental relations to manifest and that it is very difficult to rediscover how to re-form those relations.

I disagree that “this is us.”  I believe that we are no more “us” than a gorilla gone insane in a cage is a gorilla.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I mean by “There is almost no one left to teach us who we are.” is that humans have a biological nature, certainly among the very most complex; that our nature requires certain environmental relations to manifest and that it is very difficult to rediscover how to re-form those relations.</p>
<p>I disagree that “this is us.”  I believe that we are no more “us” than a gorilla gone insane in a cage is a gorilla.</p>
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		<title>By: Pete V</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/01/tyranny-of-convenience/#comment-37080</link>
		<dc:creator>Pete V</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 17:12:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;There is almost no one left to teach us who we are.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

It is the human capacity for understanding that creates a tension: who we are versus who we should be.  In our limited understanding we have pursued destruction in the name of convenience, self-destruction being an inextricably human trait.  

Who we are is easy: This is us...

Who &lt;i&gt;should&lt;/i&gt; we be?  What is our agency in these realms of Order?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;There is almost no one left to teach us who we are.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>It is the human capacity for understanding that creates a tension: who we are versus who we should be.  In our limited understanding we have pursued destruction in the name of convenience, self-destruction being an inextricably human trait.  </p>
<p>Who we are is easy: This is us&#8230;</p>
<p>Who <i>should</i> we be?  What is our agency in these realms of Order?</p>
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