Comments on: The Sources of Arabs’ Shame: Egypt, Jordan and Saudi Arabia http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/01/the-sources-of-arabs%e2%80%99-shame-egypt-jordan-and-saudi-arabia/ a radical newsletter in the struggle for peace and social justice Sun, 22 Nov 2009 19:59:33 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Kim Petersen http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/01/the-sources-of-arabs%e2%80%99-shame-egypt-jordan-and-saudi-arabia/#comment-39752 Kim Petersen Fri, 27 Feb 2009 22:05:39 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=6051#comment-39752 Gadhafi: <a href="jta.org/news/article/2009/02/24/1003247/gadhafi-israel-responsible-for-darfur-crisis" rel="nofollow">Israel responsible for Darfur crisis</a> February 24, 2009 JERUSALEM (JTA) -- Libyan President Muammar Gadhafi said Israel is to blame for the crisis in Darfur. Gadhafi, president of the African Union, said Tuesday that "foreign forces," including Israel, are to blame for the genocide in the Sudan region. "We discovered that some of the main leaders of the Darfur rebels have opened offices in Tel Aviv and hold meetings with the military there to add fuel to the conflict fire," the Libyan state news agency Jana quoted Gadhafi as saying, Ha'aretz reported... Gadhafi: Israel responsible for Darfur crisis
February 24, 2009

JERUSALEM (JTA) — Libyan President Muammar Gadhafi said Israel is to blame for the crisis in Darfur.

Gadhafi, president of the African Union, said Tuesday that “foreign forces,” including Israel, are to blame for the genocide in the Sudan region.

“We discovered that some of the main leaders of the Darfur rebels have opened offices in Tel Aviv and hold meetings with the military there to add fuel to the conflict fire,” the Libyan state news agency
Jana quoted Gadhafi as saying, Ha’aretz reported…

]]> By: Max Shields http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/01/the-sources-of-arabs%e2%80%99-shame-egypt-jordan-and-saudi-arabia/#comment-38585 Max Shields Thu, 12 Feb 2009 20:53:32 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=6051#comment-38585 Kim, Can you provide additional confirmation on the Israel arms provisions in Sudan/Darfur? While it intuitively makes sense, I'd like to be sure there's further evidence than this article (that may be the basis for others as a source). thanks Max Kim,

Can you provide additional confirmation on the Israel arms provisions in Sudan/Darfur?

While it intuitively makes sense, I’d like to be sure there’s further evidence than this article (that may be the basis for others as a source).

thanks
Max

]]> By: Barry http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/01/the-sources-of-arabs%e2%80%99-shame-egypt-jordan-and-saudi-arabia/#comment-38581 Barry Thu, 12 Feb 2009 20:16:51 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=6051#comment-38581 It should be understood by all that when the author refers to 'countries' that cooperate with Israel, he means 'states.' Using the latter term enables us to differentiate the government from the people, which to varying degrees is quite supportive of Palestinian aspirations throughout the Middle East. (note to Bozh: Germans and English have never been quite the same people. Germanic tribes that migrated to England integrated with the previously existing Celtic population. Genetically, it is likely that the English are as much or more Celtic than German.) It should be understood by all that when the author refers to ‘countries’ that cooperate with Israel, he means ’states.’ Using the latter term enables us to differentiate the government from the people, which to varying degrees is quite supportive of Palestinian aspirations throughout the Middle East.

(note to Bozh: Germans and English have never been quite the same people. Germanic tribes that migrated to England integrated with the previously existing Celtic population. Genetically, it is likely that the English are as much or more Celtic than German.)

]]> By: Kim Petersen http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/01/the-sources-of-arabs%e2%80%99-shame-egypt-jordan-and-saudi-arabia/#comment-38580 Kim Petersen Thu, 12 Feb 2009 19:45:53 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=6051#comment-38580 Grace, FYI regarding Israel and Darfur: Sudan: Israel arming Darfur rebels http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=84418&sectionid=351020504 Israel has supplied a rebel group involved in the Darfur conflict in Sudan with a considerable amount of weaponry, a new report says. and Israeli owner of MV Faina pays $3.2m ransom - Its cargo destined for Darfur? JEM has received heavy military logistical support from Israel? Pirates receive $3.2 m for Israeli ship February 3, 2009 http://sudanwatch.blogspot.com/ The Israeli-owner of a Ukrainian-flagged arms-loaded ship held by Somali pirates pays 3.2 million dollars in return for the vessel's release. The MV Faina and its crew-- 17 Ukrainians, three Russians and one Latvian national-were captured on September 25 in the notorious Somali waters. The vessel was carrying with a cargo of 33 Soviet-type battle tanks, rocket launchers and ammunition, allegedly expected to reach rebels in the Sudanese violent Darfur region. Grace,
FYI regarding Israel and Darfur:

Sudan: Israel arming Darfur rebels
http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=84418&sectionid=351020504

Israel has supplied a rebel group involved in the Darfur conflict in
Sudan with a considerable amount of weaponry, a new report says.

and

Israeli owner of MV Faina pays $3.2m ransom – Its cargo destined for
Darfur? JEM has received heavy military logistical support from Israel?

Pirates receive $3.2 m for Israeli ship
February 3, 2009
http://sudanwatch.blogspot.com/

The Israeli-owner of a Ukrainian-flagged arms-loaded ship held by
Somali pirates pays 3.2 million dollars in return for the vessel’s
release.

The MV Faina and its crew– 17 Ukrainians, three Russians and one
Latvian national-were captured on September 25 in the notorious Somali
waters.

The vessel was carrying with a cargo of 33 Soviet-type battle tanks,
rocket launchers and ammunition, allegedly expected to reach rebels in
the Sudanese violent Darfur region.

]]> By: grace http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/01/the-sources-of-arabs%e2%80%99-shame-egypt-jordan-and-saudi-arabia/#comment-38555 grace Thu, 12 Feb 2009 15:52:51 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=6051#comment-38555 am not an Israeli or european but this writer is very biased.every problem of the arabs....they always blame israel.why dont u write about what arabs are doing in Darfur,and why didnt u guys riot when hamas was killing fellow palestinians.when arabs kill each other its ok but when terrorists provoke Israel shes expected to watch.tell me which country would rockets land into it s territory would not retaliate ?when america was attacked she responded,when russia was provoked she did the same.when turkey is provoked by the kurd in iraq she is responding,BUT when ISRAEL is PROVOKED the world uproars! stop the hypocry.imagine Small Israel being ganged on by so many.many arab people want Israel destroyed and the world is helping them by always condeming her.am so angry yet am not one of the.he who PRtects ISRAEL neither SLUMBERS or SLEEPS.so watch out all who seek to destroy her am not an Israeli or european but this writer is very biased.every problem of the arabs….they always blame israel.why dont u write about what arabs are doing in Darfur,and why didnt u guys riot when hamas was killing fellow palestinians.when arabs kill each other its ok but when terrorists provoke Israel shes expected to watch.tell me which country would rockets land into it s territory would not retaliate ?when america was attacked she responded,when russia was provoked she did the same.when turkey is provoked by the kurd in iraq she is responding,BUT when ISRAEL is PROVOKED the world uproars! stop the hypocry.imagine Small Israel being ganged on by so many.many arab people want Israel destroyed and the world is helping them by always condeming her.am so angry yet am not one of the.he who PRtects ISRAEL neither SLUMBERS or SLEEPS.so watch out all who seek to destroy her

]]> By: hamasq convert http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/01/the-sources-of-arabs%e2%80%99-shame-egypt-jordan-and-saudi-arabia/#comment-37772 hamasq convert Wed, 04 Feb 2009 02:05:25 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=6051#comment-37772 ISRAEL WILL BE NO MORE A MESSAGE FROM THE MUSLIMS OF ENGLANG; WE ARE COMING TO GET U ISRAELI DOGS SOON AND WHEN I SAY DOG I MEAN MONGRALS AS EVEN PURE BRED DOG HAVE ARE LOYAL UNLIKE U ISRAELI MONGRALS WHO WILL RUN INTO THE SEA YOUR SELF SOON AS THERE IS A FAIR FIGHT AS U ANT MEN; MUSLIM BROTHER AND SISTERS IN THE MIDDLE EAST MIGHT BE TAKEN BACK BY YOUR ARMY BUT IAM TELLING U THE MUSLIMS HERE IN THE UK ARE STRONGER THEN ANY WHERE ELSE IN THE WORLD AS IT SEEMS THE BRITISH FIGHTING SPIRIT HAS RUBBED OFF ONTO US AND COMBINE THAT WITH THE TEACHING OF ALLAHAA U MONGRAL ISRAELIS ARE IN TROUBLE; ENJOY THE TIME U HAVE LEFT KILLING CHILDREN IN PALESTINE YOUR DAYS ARE NUMBERED U DOGS ISRAEL WILL BE NO MORE A MESSAGE FROM THE MUSLIMS OF ENGLANG; WE ARE COMING TO GET U ISRAELI DOGS SOON AND WHEN I SAY DOG I MEAN MONGRALS AS EVEN PURE BRED DOG HAVE ARE LOYAL UNLIKE U ISRAELI MONGRALS WHO WILL RUN INTO THE SEA YOUR SELF SOON AS THERE IS A FAIR FIGHT AS U ANT MEN; MUSLIM BROTHER AND SISTERS IN THE MIDDLE EAST MIGHT BE TAKEN BACK BY YOUR ARMY BUT IAM TELLING U THE MUSLIMS HERE IN THE UK ARE STRONGER THEN ANY WHERE ELSE IN THE WORLD AS IT SEEMS THE BRITISH FIGHTING SPIRIT HAS RUBBED OFF ONTO US AND COMBINE THAT WITH THE TEACHING OF ALLAHAA U MONGRAL ISRAELIS ARE IN TROUBLE; ENJOY THE TIME U HAVE LEFT KILLING CHILDREN IN PALESTINE YOUR DAYS ARE NUMBERED U DOGS

]]> By: hamasq convert http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/01/the-sources-of-arabs%e2%80%99-shame-egypt-jordan-and-saudi-arabia/#comment-37770 hamasq convert Wed, 04 Feb 2009 01:53:23 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=6051#comment-37770 to the zionist DOG called Ron Abrams U MATE NEED TO TO MOVE YOURSELF AND ALL THE OTHER ZIONISTS TO THE ISLES OF DOG; U R NOTHING BUT A BAD PHASE IN THE PAGES OF HISTORY YOUR DAYS ARE NUMBERED AND YEAH I HATE ISRAEL AND ALL THE ZIONIST DOGS THAT HAVE TAKEN OUR HOLY LAND AND U WONT HAVE IT FOR LONG MATE ESPECIALLY AS THE USA POWERS WEAKENS BECAUSE LETS FACE IT U ISRAELIS ANT MAN ENOUGH TO SURVIVE WITHOUT THE SUA AND SOME JUDITH ARAB STATES; YOUR DAYS ARE NUMBERED AND MATE TAKE MY ADVICE AND GET A GOOD SPOT FOR YOUR SELF ON THE ISLE OF DOGS BEFORE THE REST OF YOUR ZIONISTS GET MOVED THERE; U ISRAELIS CANT EVEN BEAT DEFENCLESS PALESTINIANS WITH ALL YOUR USA UK SUPPLIED WEAPONS WHAT POSSIBLY U GONA DO AGAINST 1.5 BILLION MUSLIMS THAT WILL WAKE UP SOON AND THROW U INTO THE MADI SEA SOOON INSHA LONG LIVE PLASTINE AND YEAH ONE MORE THING NO ONE WANTED U IN EUROPE OR ANYWHERE ELSE IN THIS WORLD AS U ARE CURSED BY GOD AND SO U TAKE THE PALESTINIANS LAND BUT WELL U MAY ENJOY THIS LAND FOR NOW REMEMBER LIKE THERE IS NIGHT AFTER DAY THERE WILL BE NO ISRAEL SOOON U DOG to the zionist DOG called Ron Abrams U MATE NEED TO TO MOVE YOURSELF AND ALL THE OTHER ZIONISTS TO THE ISLES OF DOG; U R NOTHING BUT A BAD PHASE IN THE PAGES OF HISTORY YOUR DAYS ARE NUMBERED AND YEAH I HATE ISRAEL AND ALL THE ZIONIST DOGS THAT HAVE TAKEN OUR HOLY LAND AND U WONT HAVE IT FOR LONG MATE ESPECIALLY AS THE USA POWERS WEAKENS BECAUSE LETS FACE IT U ISRAELIS ANT MAN ENOUGH TO SURVIVE WITHOUT THE SUA AND SOME JUDITH ARAB STATES; YOUR DAYS ARE NUMBERED AND MATE TAKE MY ADVICE AND GET A GOOD SPOT FOR YOUR SELF ON THE ISLE OF DOGS BEFORE THE REST OF YOUR ZIONISTS GET MOVED THERE; U ISRAELIS CANT EVEN BEAT DEFENCLESS PALESTINIANS WITH ALL YOUR USA UK SUPPLIED WEAPONS WHAT POSSIBLY U GONA DO AGAINST 1.5 BILLION MUSLIMS THAT WILL WAKE UP SOON AND THROW U INTO THE MADI SEA SOOON INSHA LONG LIVE PLASTINE AND YEAH ONE MORE THING NO ONE WANTED U IN EUROPE OR ANYWHERE ELSE IN THIS WORLD AS U ARE CURSED BY GOD AND SO U TAKE THE PALESTINIANS LAND BUT WELL U MAY ENJOY THIS LAND FOR NOW REMEMBER LIKE THERE IS NIGHT AFTER DAY THERE WILL BE NO ISRAEL SOOON U DOG

]]> By: hamasq convert http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/01/the-sources-of-arabs%e2%80%99-shame-egypt-jordan-and-saudi-arabia/#comment-37769 hamasq convert Wed, 04 Feb 2009 01:05:51 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=6051#comment-37769 ever since i can remember at schools in oxford and at home there by our parents and on the bias meadi reporting i and many other muslims in the uk have been made to beleieve shia are the enemy of islam and that we the sunnis are the upholders of the true faith but recently as my eyes open up to the truth i am thankfull to allaha for shia as they seem to be the only ones against the extermination of the palestinians and true muslims alike in this world. it seems to me that if you are a good muslim and stand up against zionism, there muslim collaborators and the crusaders then u are called a terroist but i cant help but feel the wind of change and insha this change will happen in my life time and i pray to allaha i get the the chance to see the evil doers get there punishment not just in the next life but in this world to. my fellow humans dont depair our day will come when humanity will be retored to this world and a good start would be to hang the zionists the crusadrers and specially the muslim collaborators in public on a friday after friday prayers the change is coming specially cant wait to see the sauds punished as they have enough money and influance to change the situations for so many innocent people around the world but they wont for worldly gains allaha curse them ever since i can remember at schools in oxford and at home there by our parents and on the bias meadi reporting i and many other muslims in the uk have been made to beleieve shia are the enemy of islam and that we the sunnis are the upholders of the true faith but recently as my eyes open up to the truth i am thankfull to allaha for shia as they seem to be the only ones against the extermination of the palestinians and true muslims alike in this world. it seems to me that if you are a good muslim and stand up against zionism, there muslim collaborators and the crusaders then u are called a terroist but i cant help but feel the wind of change and insha this change will happen in my life time and i pray to allaha i get the the chance to see the evil doers get there punishment not just in the next life but in this world to. my fellow humans dont depair our day will come when humanity will be retored to this world and a good start would be to hang the zionists the crusadrers and specially the muslim collaborators in public on a friday after friday prayers the change is coming specially cant wait to see the sauds punished as they have enough money and influance to change the situations for so many innocent people around the world but they wont for worldly gains allaha curse them

]]> By: Ron Abrams http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/01/the-sources-of-arabs%e2%80%99-shame-egypt-jordan-and-saudi-arabia/#comment-37514 Ron Abrams Fri, 30 Jan 2009 18:57:55 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=6051#comment-37514 The Palestinians have had a chance to have a nation in Gaza since 1948. The Palestinians would rather keep the refugees as hostages than have them help build Gaza into a livable place. Hamas would rather have a war with Israel than have a nation in Gaza. Long live Israel. If you hate Israel, move to the Congo. Shalom. The Palestinians have had a chance to have a nation in Gaza since 1948.
The Palestinians would rather keep the refugees as hostages than
have them help build Gaza into a livable place.
Hamas would rather have a war with Israel than have a nation in Gaza.
Long live Israel.
If you hate Israel, move to the Congo.
Shalom.

]]> By: m.arshad http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/01/the-sources-of-arabs%e2%80%99-shame-egypt-jordan-and-saudi-arabia/#comment-36427 m.arshad Wed, 14 Jan 2009 18:45:31 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=6051#comment-36427 whatever the machinations of the jews,christians and munafiqs it will all amount to nothing in the end as foretold by the prophet of islam. we are seeing this charade of antihuman u.n activity and others and yet no ceasefire for the innocents of gaza. i hope to live to see the day when all these war criminals and helpers are hung on the nearest lampposts in swift justice! and when imam mehdi comes to bring justice and peace besides what is present tyranny and oppression. whatever the machinations of the jews,christians and munafiqs it will all amount to nothing in the end as foretold by the prophet of islam. we are seeing this charade of antihuman u.n activity and others and yet no ceasefire for the innocents of gaza.

i hope to live to see the day when all these war criminals and helpers are hung on the nearest lampposts in swift justice! and when imam mehdi comes to bring justice and peace besides what is present tyranny and oppression.

]]> By: Cyber_Cohen http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/01/the-sources-of-arabs%e2%80%99-shame-egypt-jordan-and-saudi-arabia/#comment-36420 Cyber_Cohen Wed, 14 Jan 2009 15:41:54 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=6051#comment-36420 mebosa ritchie, whether you intended to or not, but you have illustrated the point being made by the author - that the tyrants in charge of the so called 'muslim nations' are nothing more than agents working against the interests of Muslims. The day might not be too fara away when these tyrants and those that they work for are dragged through the streets covered in tar and feather on their way to justice for all of the crimes that they have committed. Peace. mebosa ritchie, whether you intended to or not, but you have illustrated the point being made by the author – that the tyrants in charge of the so called ‘muslim nations’ are nothing more than agents working against the interests of Muslims.

The day might not be too fara away when these tyrants and those that they work for are dragged through the streets covered in tar and feather on their way to justice for all of the crimes that they have committed.

Peace.

]]> By: Nomi http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/01/the-sources-of-arabs%e2%80%99-shame-egypt-jordan-and-saudi-arabia/#comment-36416 Nomi Wed, 14 Jan 2009 15:01:55 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=6051#comment-36416 Exceptional article! Task One: Get rid of the enemies within. Task Two: Unite. Task Three: Deal with the external enemy. Exceptional article!
Task One: Get rid of the enemies within.
Task Two: Unite.
Task Three: Deal with the external enemy.

]]> By: AEAZ - A. Myers http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/01/the-sources-of-arabs%e2%80%99-shame-egypt-jordan-and-saudi-arabia/#comment-36400 AEAZ - A. Myers Wed, 14 Jan 2009 11:48:22 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=6051#comment-36400 Shabnam - my post has also been taken off - I also spoke about ronald macdonald being paid by macdonalds to take it up the ass :) Logically you can almost guarantee that all atrocities, war and manipulations come from a power / financial motivation covered in a religious overtone. The big banking dynasties of this millennium are behind all of them it seems. We find the evidence of this in the outcomes of each manipulation; the general populous are lambs to the slaughter in this. We are a blood sacrifice for an ultimate aim of total control. The more hate sown between Jews, Hindus, Muslims and Christians the better. The more one nation rises against another the closer we get to worldwide conflict, the bankers and arms peddlers win again because they supply all sides. The more the worldwide economy collapses the better a single currency will sound. These truths are leaving the arena of theory and entering the realms of fact. Using any terms around zionist ideologies, people falsely equate anti-zionism with anti-semitism (more spin). What I mean when I mention zionist ideologies is not Jews (as many Hassidic Jews are abhorrent of these ideologies) but every strata of society, neo-cons, mormons, jehovahs witnesses, christians, muslims, hindus, freemasons - ALL the upper echelons of religions, finance and politics are infested with racist, zionistic idealogies. To decide that all Jews are Zionists is to do exactly what they want you to do - they are laughing at you because you are now exactly the same as them, a racists thug! Many Jews are against Zionist ideologies, I am a gentile researcher who has seen much evidence of this. anti elitist / anti zionist Shabnam – my post has also been taken off – I also spoke about ronald macdonald being paid by macdonalds to take it up the ass :)

Logically you can almost guarantee that all atrocities, war and manipulations come from a power / financial motivation covered in a religious overtone. The big banking dynasties of this millennium are behind all of them it seems. We find the evidence of this in the outcomes of each manipulation; the general populous are lambs to the slaughter in this. We are a blood sacrifice for an ultimate aim of total control. The more hate sown between Jews, Hindus, Muslims and Christians the better. The more one nation rises against another the closer we get to worldwide conflict, the bankers and arms peddlers win again because they supply all sides. The more the worldwide economy collapses the better a single currency will sound. These truths are leaving the arena of theory and entering the realms of fact.

Using any terms around zionist ideologies, people falsely equate anti-zionism with anti-semitism (more spin). What I mean when I mention zionist ideologies is not Jews (as many Hassidic Jews are abhorrent of these ideologies) but every strata of society, neo-cons, mormons, jehovahs witnesses, christians, muslims, hindus, freemasons – ALL the upper echelons of religions, finance and politics are infested with racist, zionistic idealogies.

To decide that all Jews are Zionists is to do exactly what they want you to do – they are laughing at you because you are now exactly the same as them, a racists thug! Many Jews are against Zionist ideologies, I am a gentile researcher who has seen much evidence of this.

anti elitist / anti zionist

]]> By: Shabnam http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/01/the-sources-of-arabs%e2%80%99-shame-egypt-jordan-and-saudi-arabia/#comment-36304 Shabnam Tue, 13 Jan 2009 14:46:26 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=6051#comment-36304 Mary: Thank you very much for your post. I have noticed my posts under Dr. Bakhtiar “the sources of Arab…” have been wiped off the screen on Sunday after I gave a respond to ronald mcdonald. I did complain and they appeared again on my screen. I have 3 comments, 1) On Bakhtiar article, 2) On Turkey related to Recent Tayyip Erdogan statement that Israel’s assault on the Gaza Strip is crime against humanity and 3) A respond to ronald mcdonald’s post. Early morning on Monday, I noticed my 2 comments, on Turkey and a respond to mcdonald have been disappeared. In the other word all comments since my Turkey have been wiped off the screen. They came back when I let them know. The same thing happened again, where the first 7 or 8 comments appears but not the rest. It came back again but I know there is a technology that you might see your own comment on your screen but not anyone else. Please let me know if you can see all comments under Bakhtiar’s articles, 21 comments. Mary:
Thank you very much for your post. I have noticed my posts under Dr. Bakhtiar “the sources of Arab…” have been wiped off the screen on Sunday after I gave a respond to ronald mcdonald. I did complain and they appeared again on my screen. I have 3 comments, 1) On Bakhtiar article, 2) On Turkey related to Recent Tayyip Erdogan statement that Israel’s assault on the Gaza Strip is crime against humanity and 3) A respond to ronald mcdonald’s post. Early morning on Monday, I noticed my 2 comments, on Turkey and a respond to mcdonald have been disappeared. In the other word all comments since my Turkey have been wiped off the screen. They came back when I let them know. The same thing happened again, where the first 7 or 8 comments appears but not the rest. It came back again but I know there is a technology that you might see your own comment on your screen but not anyone else. Please let me know if you can see all comments under Bakhtiar’s articles, 21 comments.

]]> By: mary http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/01/the-sources-of-arabs%e2%80%99-shame-egypt-jordan-and-saudi-arabia/#comment-36294 mary Tue, 13 Jan 2009 12:53:35 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=6051#comment-36294 I didn't see it Shabnam and I am sorry but possibly you became riled by the likes of Mebosa Ritchie which is understandable. I was hacked off yesterday when I found he/she had posted the same lie in five different places on this site about Hamas selling aid supplies. He/she will probably hate seeing this You Tube video which illustrates that the Israelis are carrying out their crimes in other parts of the Occupied Territories and not just in Gaza. http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=QJaPZLNLBu8&eurl=http://israels60thbirthday.com/ It was hushed up by the Israeli military for obvious reasons but an Israeli TV channel broke the embargo. These Zionists 'the possessors of the only true democracy in the Middle East' are banning two Arab political parties from participating in the elections next month. Israeli Arabs form one fifth of the 7m total population. http://english.aljazeera.net/news/middleeast/2009/01/2009112165350696500.html I didn’t see it Shabnam and I am sorry but possibly you became riled by the likes of Mebosa Ritchie which is understandable. I was hacked off yesterday when I found he/she had posted the same lie in five different places on this site about Hamas selling aid supplies. He/she will probably hate seeing this You Tube video which illustrates that the Israelis are carrying out their crimes in other parts of the Occupied Territories and not just in Gaza.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=QJaPZLNLBu8&eurl=http://israels60thbirthday.com/

It was hushed up by the Israeli military for obvious reasons but an Israeli TV channel broke the embargo.

These Zionists ‘the possessors of the only true democracy in the Middle East’ are banning two Arab political parties from participating in the elections next month. Israeli Arabs form one fifth of the 7m total population.

http://english.aljazeera.net/news/middleeast/2009/01/2009112165350696500.html

]]> By: Shabnam http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/01/the-sources-of-arabs%e2%80%99-shame-egypt-jordan-and-saudi-arabia/#comment-36291 Shabnam Tue, 13 Jan 2009 11:26:10 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=6051#comment-36291 To DV editor: I am very disturbed that my comments have been removed again. Please returned them back immediately. To DV editor:

I am very disturbed that my comments have been removed again.
Please returned them back immediately.

]]> By: MrCynic3 http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/01/the-sources-of-arabs%e2%80%99-shame-egypt-jordan-and-saudi-arabia/#comment-36185 MrCynic3 Mon, 12 Jan 2009 13:25:04 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=6051#comment-36185 The Moslem Brotherhood was created by the British in Egypt in 1928. The British created it with the help of the feudal land oweners as counter-balance to a nationalist movement that might go in a leftist direction. It was a typical British "divide and rule". Hamas was created and nutured by Israel to counter-balance the PLO and Yassir Arafat knowing that there will be conflict between the two groups. Again it is the classic "divide and rule." The Moslem Brotherhood was created by the British in Egypt in 1928.
The British created it with the help of the feudal land oweners as counter-balance to a nationalist movement that might go in a leftist direction.
It was a typical British “divide and rule”.
Hamas was created and nutured by Israel to counter-balance the PLO
and Yassir Arafat knowing that there will be conflict between the two
groups.
Again it is the classic “divide and rule.”

]]> By: MrCynic3 http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/01/the-sources-of-arabs%e2%80%99-shame-egypt-jordan-and-saudi-arabia/#comment-36180 MrCynic3 Mon, 12 Jan 2009 12:54:20 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=6051#comment-36180 Hosni Mobarak is not a collabrator but he is a realist and care about the wellbeing and safety of Egypt. What can he do if all the power centers of the world with their military and economic powers are supporting Israel. Do you want him to subject Egypt to an attack or an economic boycott. Life is already hard enough for most of the Egyptians where getting bread is a daily struggle and standing in long lines. Hosni Mobarak is not a collabrator but he is a realist and care about the
wellbeing and safety of Egypt.
What can he do if all the power centers of the world with their military
and economic powers are supporting Israel. Do you want him to
subject Egypt to an attack or an economic boycott.
Life is already hard enough for most of the Egyptians where getting bread is a daily struggle and standing in long lines.

]]> By: MrCynic3 http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/01/the-sources-of-arabs%e2%80%99-shame-egypt-jordan-and-saudi-arabia/#comment-36179 MrCynic3 Mon, 12 Jan 2009 12:45:02 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=6051#comment-36179 ronald mcdonald, What a stupid ignorant rant from a true zionist. ronald mcdonald,

What a stupid ignorant rant from a true zionist.

]]> By: ronald mcdonald http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/01/the-sources-of-arabs%e2%80%99-shame-egypt-jordan-and-saudi-arabia/#comment-36173 ronald mcdonald Mon, 12 Jan 2009 10:13:05 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=6051#comment-36173 keep going shabnam the state you're getting in to,you'll self explode. your mates in hamas usually try to blow themselves with explosive but you'll manage it without greater israel actually sounds like a good idea from the nile to the euphrates but we'll let you share in our prosperity as we make the desert bloom as we have done in lesser israel what can you offer apart from explosives,death,destruction,death,martyrdom,death ISRAEL EXISTS AND WILL FOREVER GET USED TO IT AM YISROEL CHAI keep going shabnam the state you’re getting in to,you’ll self explode. your mates in hamas usually try to blow themselves with explosive but you’ll manage it without
greater israel actually sounds like a good idea from the nile to the euphrates but we’ll let you share in our prosperity as we make the desert bloom as we have done in lesser israel
what can you offer apart from explosives,death,destruction,death,martyrdom,death
ISRAEL EXISTS AND WILL FOREVER GET USED TO IT
AM YISROEL CHAI

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