Comments on: The Fatal Fallacy of “Objectivity” http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/01/the-fatal-fallacy-of-%e2%80%9cobjectivity%e2%80%9d/ a radical newsletter in the struggle for peace and social justice Thu, 08 Dec 2011 15:07:30 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Maximilian Forte http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/01/the-fatal-fallacy-of-%e2%80%9cobjectivity%e2%80%9d/#comment-37989 Maximilian Forte Fri, 06 Feb 2009 04:04:36 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=6131#comment-37989 Jennifer's article is brilliant, many thanks for writing this. It comes especially at a time when academics are being immobilized out of fear that if they take a stand, they will be seen as having lost their "objectivity." It's an odd perversion of a term: Marx thought of his work as objective and scientific. The perversion is this: that an analysis cannot be deemed objective, if the stance it leads to is not a neutral one. It is muddled thought, hence the perverse misunderstandings of objectivity, which are best suited for monks and eunuchs. Jack, there is no either/or when it comes to boycotts. Boycotts are one strategy, which do not impede anyone from adopting other strategies as well. It's not an exclusive strategy, and for many people it is the very most they can do, not the least. Let's not disempower them by promoting the idea that anything they do, short of strapping on an explosive vest, is useless. Discouraging prospective actors...that is also playing by the rules of the system. Let's not aim for theoretical purity, and instead let's get busy. Jennifer’s article is brilliant, many thanks for writing this. It comes especially at a time when academics are being immobilized out of fear that if they take a stand, they will be seen as having lost their “objectivity.” It’s an odd perversion of a term: Marx thought of his work as objective and scientific. The perversion is this: that an analysis cannot be deemed objective, if the stance it leads to is not a neutral one. It is muddled thought, hence the perverse misunderstandings of objectivity, which are best suited for monks and eunuchs.

Jack, there is no either/or when it comes to boycotts. Boycotts are one strategy, which do not impede anyone from adopting other strategies as well. It’s not an exclusive strategy, and for many people it is the very most they can do, not the least. Let’s not disempower them by promoting the idea that anything they do, short of strapping on an explosive vest, is useless. Discouraging prospective actors…that is also playing by the rules of the system. Let’s not aim for theoretical purity, and instead let’s get busy.

]]> By: Concrete man http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/01/the-fatal-fallacy-of-%e2%80%9cobjectivity%e2%80%9d/#comment-36659 Concrete man Sun, 18 Jan 2009 01:20:54 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=6131#comment-36659 BOYCOTT ISRAEL! http://www.inminds.co.uk/boycott-brands.html BOYCOTT ISRAEL!
http://www.inminds.co.uk/boycott-brands.html

]]> By: Concrete man http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/01/the-fatal-fallacy-of-%e2%80%9cobjectivity%e2%80%9d/#comment-36571 Concrete man Fri, 16 Jan 2009 22:55:43 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=6131#comment-36571 Great article. However, let's dump all the Nazi and Holocaust analogies. WWII period is the most distorted period in history. One: Hitler was not so bad as compared to the "Allied" forces; two: There was no extermination plan, there were no homocidal gas chambers, and Six Million Jews were not "murdered". Germar Rudolph's book Dissecting the Holocaust (he is now in prison for questioning Jewish Supremacy) puts the number of Jews that died in the total theater of war at half a million. On another point, the root cause of this Iraeli bloodlust is documented in Michael Hoffman's book, Judaism Discovered. People should read this book if they want to understand the root cause of Zionist aggression instead of just whacking at the branches. Great article. However, let’s dump all the Nazi and Holocaust analogies. WWII period is the most distorted period in history. One: Hitler was not so bad as compared to the “Allied” forces; two: There was no extermination plan, there were no homocidal gas chambers, and Six Million Jews were not “murdered”. Germar Rudolph’s book Dissecting the Holocaust (he is now in prison for questioning Jewish Supremacy) puts the number of Jews that died in the total theater of war at half a million.

On another point, the root cause of this Iraeli bloodlust is documented in Michael Hoffman’s book, Judaism Discovered. People should read this book if they want to understand the root cause of Zionist aggression instead of just whacking at the branches.

]]> By: Max Shields http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/01/the-fatal-fallacy-of-%e2%80%9cobjectivity%e2%80%9d/#comment-36484 Max Shields Thu, 15 Jan 2009 16:33:21 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=6131#comment-36484 Nikos, Up until very recently I would have completely agreed with you and still think there is some truth to the idea that the Empire requires the foothold that Israel provides. But I don't think it is your run-of-the-mill plutocrat that controls the Congress. regarding foreign policy and particularly in ME. This is Zionism/AIPAC at work. It has a grip on this faux democracy. Because we have never really had a democracy, but rather a plutocracy with representation which can be easily gamed for a price, the system has been usurped by Zionism. Zionism is fanaticism incarnate; the rebirth of Hitler's Nazis. The US Empire has a history which makes it an easy target for the Zionists. But because the Empire is in decline, the Zionists seem to have taken a stronger hold of the levers of power. Will this last? Will the decline of the US Empire be the Zionists' last stand? Will there be a massive backlash against the Zionists here and abroad? Eventually, but when I'm uncertain. Nikos,

Up until very recently I would have completely agreed with you and still think there is some truth to the idea that the Empire requires the foothold that Israel provides.

But I don’t think it is your run-of-the-mill plutocrat that controls the Congress. regarding foreign policy and particularly in ME. This is Zionism/AIPAC at work. It has a grip on this faux democracy. Because we have never really had a democracy, but rather a plutocracy with representation which can be easily gamed for a price, the system has been usurped by Zionism. Zionism is fanaticism incarnate; the rebirth of Hitler’s Nazis.

The US Empire has a history which makes it an easy target for the Zionists. But because the Empire is in decline, the Zionists seem to have taken a stronger hold of the levers of power.

Will this last? Will the decline of the US Empire be the Zionists’ last stand? Will there be a massive backlash against the Zionists here and abroad?

Eventually, but when I’m uncertain.

]]> By: bozh http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/01/the-fatal-fallacy-of-%e2%80%9cobjectivity%e2%80%9d/#comment-36483 bozh Thu, 15 Jan 2009 16:26:21 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=6131#comment-36483 main and by far most basic zionist idea is theft of land. naturally then, thieving means use of violence or warfare. zionists, both the ashkenazic and nonashkenazic, are divided on how much they wan't to take by warfare, etc., in ME. on the other hand, americanism, while differing little from ashkenaziism, was of one mind how much land it was to take by warfare; namely, all of it. canada was not taken, because the mouthful was too large and defended by two empires. thnx main and by far most basic zionist idea is theft of land. naturally then, thieving means use of violence or warfare.
zionists, both the ashkenazic and nonashkenazic, are divided on how much they wan’t to take by warfare, etc., in ME.

on the other hand, americanism, while differing little from ashkenaziism, was of one mind how much land it was to take by warfare; namely, all of it.
canada was not taken, because the mouthful was too large and defended by two empires.
thnx

]]> By: Nikos http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/01/the-fatal-fallacy-of-%e2%80%9cobjectivity%e2%80%9d/#comment-36481 Nikos Thu, 15 Jan 2009 14:00:58 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=6131#comment-36481 Although, there are serious reasons explaining why USA promotes its interests by maintaining Israel as a regional superpower. I believe that the damage USA suffers with regards to its reputation is by far exceeding any advantages gained from supporting this country actions. Safely assuming that the damage done to USA reputation is recognised by American foreign policy, why should they maintain their practices so openly; The only thing I can think of with my limited knowledge is that at this point of time they don’t care. In order for USA to maintain its status as the only empire in the world, This country and any other empire historically must not only have military superiority over all the other nations but also should be able to produce and inspire new ideas to the majority of people worldwide. The latter has ceased to exist quite some time now and in my opinion the situation is well known to foreign policy makers. The transition to a new status past America has already began for good or worse and USA governments (especially Bush administration) tend to maintain the status quo for as long as possible not for the benefit of the USA and the American people but for the few Architects who have estimated they would gain more with the current status for as long as it can stay. Without the consent of the majority of the people recognising USA as the sole dominant origin influencing the rest of the world this trend is unable to hide its brutal face like assisting the genocide of Palestinians. Although, there are serious reasons explaining why USA promotes its interests by maintaining Israel as a regional superpower.
I believe that the damage USA suffers with regards to its reputation is by far exceeding any advantages gained from supporting this country actions. Safely assuming that the damage done to USA reputation is recognised by American foreign policy, why should they maintain their practices so openly;
The only thing I can think of with my limited knowledge is that at this point of time they don’t care.
In order for USA to maintain its status as the only empire in the world, This country and any other empire historically must not only have military superiority over all the other nations but also should be able to produce and inspire new ideas to the majority of people worldwide.

The latter has ceased to exist quite some time now and in my opinion the situation is well known to foreign policy makers. The transition to a new status past America has already began for good or worse and USA governments (especially Bush administration) tend to maintain the status quo for as long as possible not for the benefit of the USA and the American people but for the few Architects who have estimated they would gain more with the current status for as long as it can stay.

Without the consent of the majority of the people recognising USA as the sole dominant origin influencing the rest of the world this trend is unable to hide its brutal face like assisting the genocide of Palestinians.

]]> By: AEAZ - A. Myers http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/01/the-fatal-fallacy-of-%e2%80%9cobjectivity%e2%80%9d/#comment-36473 AEAZ - A. Myers Thu, 15 Jan 2009 09:40:01 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=6131#comment-36473 There is no such thing as an evil Muslim, Jew, Hindu, Christian, Hare Krishna, Mormon, or Zoroastrian, in its true form all religions speak of the same unity. Zionism has split all religions and people in two, causing the fundamentalist to declare - 'I am right and you are wrong'. Evil resides in fundamentalist, zionistic ideologies. All upper sections of society have these ideologies, whether its politics, religion or finance. The controllers of this world infest the people with these views and tell the people only what they want us to hear, ie: this is a justified conflict blah, blah, blah. I call all people to put down weapons and see the manipulation you are under, zionists will have you fighting until there are few enough people to control, all the while getting rich (via AIPAC) on this hell. There is no such thing as an evil Muslim, Jew, Hindu, Christian, Hare Krishna, Mormon, or Zoroastrian, in its true form all religions speak of the same unity. Zionism has split all religions and people in two, causing the fundamentalist to declare – ‘I am right and you are wrong’.
Evil resides in fundamentalist, zionistic ideologies. All upper sections of society have these ideologies, whether its politics, religion or finance.
The controllers of this world infest the people with these views and tell the people only what they want us to hear, ie: this is a justified conflict blah, blah, blah.
I call all people to put down weapons and see the manipulation you are under, zionists will have you fighting until there are few enough people to control, all the while getting rich (via AIPAC) on this hell.

]]> By: Jack http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/01/the-fatal-fallacy-of-%e2%80%9cobjectivity%e2%80%9d/#comment-36460 Jack Thu, 15 Jan 2009 02:42:48 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=6131#comment-36460 Kalidas, I didn't equate Hinduism and Islam; I compared Hindutva (fundamenatlism) with Salafism (fundamentalism). I compared fundamentalisms, to illustrate how the text can be understood independent of individual interpretation. Hindu cosmology, in the hands of a Chopra, is inoffensive platitudinization. In the hands of Hindutva fanatics, quite another monster. And I don't deal in sweeping categories, even as an atheist, to condemn all Islam, or Christianity, or Judaism, or Hindu metaphysics, because some one or another person argues this or that normative interpretation. Which, I guess, allows me to reiterate my point, in reply to bozh: texts are subject to interpretation. A humane yeshiva student, steeped in humanism and fellowship, will read the Torah and discover one meaning, and a cause to oppose Israeli aggression. The same text, in the hands of a Kahanist or "greater Israel" Likudnik, might find a re-expression of the older, brutal Bronze Age rules, and a rabbinical fatwa to murder as many Palestinians as possible. Characterizing all of the Torah as the evil work of ethically suspect Jews, as bad or false ethics (or whatever), clouds discernment, and obscures the differences between origin and aim. But, I suspect you were really just looking for an excuse to whine about evil Muslims and all the evil things they do to pure and godly [insert Christian, Jew, Hindu, Buddhist, et cetera]. Respectfully, Jack Kalidas,

I didn’t equate Hinduism and Islam; I compared Hindutva (fundamenatlism) with Salafism (fundamentalism). I compared fundamentalisms, to illustrate how the text can be understood independent of individual interpretation. Hindu cosmology, in the hands of a Chopra, is inoffensive platitudinization. In the hands of Hindutva fanatics, quite another monster.

And I don’t deal in sweeping categories, even as an atheist, to condemn all Islam, or Christianity, or Judaism, or Hindu metaphysics, because some one or another person argues this or that normative interpretation.

Which, I guess, allows me to reiterate my point, in reply to bozh: texts are subject to interpretation. A humane yeshiva student, steeped in humanism and fellowship, will read the Torah and discover one meaning, and a cause to oppose Israeli aggression. The same text, in the hands of a Kahanist or “greater Israel” Likudnik, might find a re-expression of the older, brutal Bronze Age rules, and a rabbinical fatwa to murder as many Palestinians as possible.

Characterizing all of the Torah as the evil work of ethically suspect Jews, as bad or false ethics (or whatever), clouds discernment, and obscures the differences between origin and aim.

But, I suspect you were really just looking for an excuse to whine about evil Muslims and all the evil things they do to pure and godly [insert Christian, Jew, Hindu, Buddhist, et cetera].

Respectfully,

Jack

]]> By: kalidas http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/01/the-fatal-fallacy-of-%e2%80%9cobjectivity%e2%80%9d/#comment-36456 kalidas Thu, 15 Jan 2009 00:48:52 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=6131#comment-36456 Jack, you are aware of what "Hindu Kush "means? Tell us what Islam means to all the Buddhists and Hindus of Iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Bangladesh and soon to be Kashmir(?) That is , if you can find any. To equate Hindutva which is mostly ranting and raving talk, as opposed to the actual elimination of tens of millions of Hindus and Buddhists by the Mohammadans, is an insult and propaganda by omission, of the highest order. http://www.tamil.net/list/2001-10/msg00165.html http://truecongresspolitics.wordpress.com/2008/08/13/hindu-civilization-in-retreat/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Hindus Jack, you are aware of what “Hindu Kush “means?
Tell us what Islam means to all the Buddhists and Hindus of Iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Bangladesh and soon to be Kashmir(?) That is , if you can find any.
To equate Hindutva which is mostly ranting and raving talk, as opposed to the actual elimination of tens of millions of Hindus and Buddhists by the Mohammadans, is an insult and propaganda by omission, of the highest order.

http://www.tamil.net/list/2001-10/msg00165.html

http://truecongresspolitics.wordpress.com/2008/08/13/hindu-civilization-in-retreat/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Hindus

]]> By: bozh http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/01/the-fatal-fallacy-of-%e2%80%9cobjectivity%e2%80%9d/#comment-36451 bozh Wed, 14 Jan 2009 22:56:17 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=6131#comment-36451 michael dawson, i have stated numerous times that guilt for crimes can be stratified. so, i wld say. that up 90% of amesr are less guilty than the rest. and of the 10% that are more guilty, ?2-3% deserve at least jail terms. and i strongly believe that vast numbers of amers are not an exception nor exceptional when it comes to the evaluation of numerous mistruths as truths. beyond this i can't say any more. let science (anthropology, sociology, humanism) dwell into culpabilty of the 98% of the people who voted for crimianals. thnx michael dawson,
i have stated numerous times that guilt for crimes can be stratified.
so, i wld say. that up 90% of amesr are less guilty than the rest. and of the 10% that are more guilty, ?2-3% deserve at least jail terms.
and i strongly believe that vast numbers of amers are not an exception nor exceptional when it comes to the evaluation of numerous mistruths as truths.

beyond this i can’t say any more. let science (anthropology, sociology, humanism) dwell into culpabilty of the 98% of the people who voted for crimianals. thnx

]]> By: Michael Dawson http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/01/the-fatal-fallacy-of-%e2%80%9cobjectivity%e2%80%9d/#comment-36447 Michael Dawson Wed, 14 Jan 2009 22:09:16 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=6131#comment-36447 Bozh, 98 percent of Americans did not and would not vote to endorse Israel's ongoing war crimes. 98 percent of Congresspersons did. Big and telling difference. An excellent indicator of how sick our supposedly representative political system is... Genuine debate and referral to the people cannot be permitted on Israel. The status quo would not fly under those conditions. Kind of like health care, etc. "Off the table." "Irresponsible." Etc. Bozh, 98 percent of Americans did not and would not vote to endorse Israel’s ongoing war crimes. 98 percent of Congresspersons did. Big and telling difference. An excellent indicator of how sick our supposedly representative political system is…

Genuine debate and referral to the people cannot be permitted on Israel. The status quo would not fly under those conditions. Kind of like health care, etc. “Off the table.” “Irresponsible.” Etc.

]]> By: bozh http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/01/the-fatal-fallacy-of-%e2%80%9cobjectivity%e2%80%9d/#comment-36440 bozh Wed, 14 Jan 2009 20:42:30 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=6131#comment-36440 jack, it won't do to switch the talk from values to torahic laws nor how 'jews' of the day interpret them. we are or were talking about 'jewish' 'values'. and, moreover, how they were applied or used against the goyim. remember, that by just speaking of chinese values or the values of euros with judaic faith or cult one wld be swimming in supremacistic waters. i've had it with msm asserting how our (western) 'values' are so superior to eastern values. now people posit (tho tacitly; being afraid to say so explicitly) how valuable 'jewish' values are. how/why is one missing the obvious: whenever one puts up another, one perforce puts dwn that other. a star as is put up; bns are evaluated as less worthy. it can be also easily learned that in every nation there are an endless misvalues. i don't think i need to enumerate them as they have been pricking us in both eyes for millennia. i also suggest that 98% of amers and 'jews' interpret these laws as per what they have been doing to palestinians for a century now. haven't 98% of amers just voted for more punishemnt of palestinians. how many amer 'jews' have voted for obama? 99-100%. and thus for more slaughter. some interpretations, laws, and values. but i think you are religious people? thnx jack,
it won’t do to switch the talk from values to torahic laws nor how ‘jews’ of the day interpret them.
we are or were talking about ‘jewish’ ‘values’. and, moreover, how they were applied or used against the goyim.
remember, that by just speaking of chinese values or the values of euros with judaic faith or cult one wld be swimming in supremacistic waters.

i’ve had it with msm asserting how our (western) ‘values’ are so superior to eastern values. now people posit (tho tacitly; being afraid to say so explicitly) how valuable ‘jewish’ values are.
how/why is one missing the obvious: whenever one puts up another, one perforce puts dwn that other.

a star as is put up; bns are evaluated as less worthy. it can be also easily learned that in every nation there are an endless misvalues. i don’t think i need to enumerate them as they have been pricking us in both eyes for millennia.

i also suggest that 98% of amers and ‘jews’ interpret these laws as per what they have been doing to palestinians for a century now.
haven’t 98% of amers just voted for more punishemnt of palestinians.
how many amer ‘jews’ have voted for obama? 99-100%.
and thus for more slaughter. some interpretations, laws, and values.
but i think you are religious people? thnx

]]> By: Jack http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/01/the-fatal-fallacy-of-%e2%80%9cobjectivity%e2%80%9d/#comment-36436 Jack Wed, 14 Jan 2009 20:15:47 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=6131#comment-36436 Bozh, Bronze age Torah laws are not read literally by the majority of Jewish congregations. Hindus and Muslims can also manage to take the Gita and the Quran and not end up Hindutva or Salafi. Bozh,

Bronze age Torah laws are not read literally by the majority of Jewish congregations. Hindus and Muslims can also manage to take the Gita and the Quran and not end up Hindutva or Salafi.

]]> By: bozh http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/01/the-fatal-fallacy-of-%e2%80%9cobjectivity%e2%80%9d/#comment-36434 bozh Wed, 14 Jan 2009 19:58:17 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=6131#comment-36434 please read the torah and learn about hebraic or judaic 'values'. many of their 'values' are criminal and can be compared with nazi 'values' please read the torah and learn about hebraic or judaic ‘values’. many of their ‘values’ are criminal and can be compared with nazi ‘values’

]]> By: Jack http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/01/the-fatal-fallacy-of-%e2%80%9cobjectivity%e2%80%9d/#comment-36430 Jack Wed, 14 Jan 2009 18:58:35 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=6131#comment-36430 Mandla, You wrote: "You cannot discuss and mediate violence outside the moral-ethical value system. Jews have always claimed a better and superior moral-ethical value system and when judged against their own system they fail dismally." Agree, completely. Israel has violated it's own "motherhood" position. If the various Palestinian resistance groups, and the larger Palestinian population, can establish a *known* "motherhood" position, and force the Israeli state to continuously violate it's own ethical claims, in an attempt to undermine the moral authority of the Palestinian resistance to occupation, the Palestinian people (as a community, and as persons) will have the opportunity to alter the nature of the conflict itself. Gandhi's genius, by way of commentary, was not that he was a pacifist (although this was useful stance to take against the Raj and the Brits), but that he forced the Brits to undermine their own claims to moral and cultural supremacy, nearly every time they opposed acts of Indian resistance. For a greater explanation of "motherhood," see: http://www.counterpunch.org/spinney11052008.html With no endorsement of Obama implied or intended. Respectfully, Jack Mandla,

You wrote:

“You cannot discuss and mediate violence outside the moral-ethical value system. Jews have always claimed a better and superior moral-ethical value system and when judged against their own system they fail dismally.”

Agree, completely.

Israel has violated it’s own “motherhood” position. If the various Palestinian resistance groups, and the larger Palestinian population, can establish a *known* “motherhood” position, and force the Israeli state to continuously violate it’s own ethical claims, in an attempt to undermine the moral authority of the Palestinian resistance to occupation, the Palestinian people (as a community, and as persons) will have the opportunity to alter the nature of the conflict itself.

Gandhi’s genius, by way of commentary, was not that he was a pacifist (although this was useful stance to take against the Raj and the Brits), but that he forced the Brits to undermine their own claims to moral and cultural supremacy, nearly every time they opposed acts of Indian resistance.

For a greater explanation of “motherhood,” see:

http://www.counterpunch.org/spinney11052008.html

With no endorsement of Obama implied or intended.

Respectfully,

Jack

]]> By: bozh http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/01/the-fatal-fallacy-of-%e2%80%9cobjectivity%e2%80%9d/#comment-36422 bozh Wed, 14 Jan 2009 16:00:42 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=6131#comment-36422 if jahweh, the hebrew 'god' wanted peace in canaanitic regions he/she/it wldn't have punished hebrews by herding them in an impoverished and tiny land. if jahweh (read mad hebrew priests) wanted peace and happiness for his/her/its cultists, it wld have given hebrews at least a continent of their own; preferably a planet of their own light years away. if jahweh, the hebrew ‘god’ wanted peace in canaanitic regions he/she/it wldn’t have punished hebrews by herding them in an impoverished and tiny land.
if jahweh (read mad hebrew priests) wanted peace and happiness for his/her/its cultists, it wld have given hebrews at least a continent of their own; preferably a planet of their own light years away.

]]> By: bozh http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/01/the-fatal-fallacy-of-%e2%80%9cobjectivity%e2%80%9d/#comment-36421 bozh Wed, 14 Jan 2009 15:51:13 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=6131#comment-36421 mandla, to talk about the value of one people and avoid talking about the value of other people is, to me, a misvalue. thnx mandla,
to talk about the value of one people and avoid talking about the value of other people is, to me, a misvalue. thnx

]]> By: AEAZ - A. Myers http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/01/the-fatal-fallacy-of-%e2%80%9cobjectivity%e2%80%9d/#comment-36418 AEAZ - A. Myers Wed, 14 Jan 2009 15:31:23 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=6131#comment-36418 Jennifer - have you had comments removed before? Jennifer – have you had comments removed before?

]]> By: AEAZ - A. Myers http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/01/the-fatal-fallacy-of-%e2%80%9cobjectivity%e2%80%9d/#comment-36414 AEAZ - A. Myers Wed, 14 Jan 2009 14:59:19 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=6131#comment-36414 Good thinking, there are a few of them on the site sadly - maybe they could be highlighted in sundried tomato paste colour so that we do not waste our time reading their drivel. Good thinking, there are a few of them on the site sadly – maybe they could be highlighted in sundried tomato paste colour so that we do not waste our time reading their drivel.

]]> By: Jennifer Matsui http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/01/the-fatal-fallacy-of-%e2%80%9cobjectivity%e2%80%9d/#comment-36413 Jennifer Matsui Wed, 14 Jan 2009 14:43:04 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=6131#comment-36413 Thanks AEAZ, I'm enjoying your comments as well. Maybe DV could make the jar of sundried tomatoes a regular feature for all insipid, off-topic sloganeering and the like. No one would have to delete or moderate comments, just move them to thread that features an image of shrivelled fruit products. It's a win-win situation all around. Thanks AEAZ, I’m enjoying your comments as well.

Maybe DV could make the jar of sundried tomatoes a regular feature for all insipid, off-topic sloganeering and the like. No one would have to delete or moderate comments, just move them to thread that features an image of shrivelled fruit products. It’s a win-win situation all around.

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