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		<title>By: kalidas</title>
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		<dc:creator>kalidas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 15:26:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;A society of cheaters and the cheated.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;A society of cheaters and the cheated.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Don Hawkins</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/01/shells-game/#comment-35613</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Hawkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 14:30:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do you read your comments George?  I sent this to one of the financial channels this morning where you can see some of those them people.  I think they read my e-mails hell I don;t know.  I wonder if Obama or any of his people read DV as just on the off chance they do Obama are you going to try and block them whoever them are you know fight them?  Many of us will be watching and if you don&#039;t there is not much we can do as working together is key if we wish to survive. Heck give it a fight what have we got to lose.  Human civilization and I am sure you already know this.  Thank you thank you very much. 


 &quot;Nobody realistically expects that the large readily available pools of oil and gas will be left in the ground. Caps will not cause that to happen - caps only slow the rate at which the oil and gas are used. The only solution is to cut off the coal source,&quot;   Hansen

   So far it looks like what Hansen wrote not to do will be the plan.  Say this is how it plays out then what, not much.  It&#039;s called down the drain in slow motion.  Now many will think we are doing what is needed and of course in just a few years anyway even if we did do what is needed large changes to weather Worldwide.  In the Southeast we can already see the changes warmer winters and the crops some so far not good.  That weather in the Northwest the next few day&#039;s is what is the word records.  California the next few summers should give us a sign that&#039;s Indian talk.  George Monbiot just wrote a new article and put it on DV here is the last paragraph.

On this issue Jeroen van der Veer and I agree. Oil companies, he says, should not seek to determine a country’s energy mix: that is for the government to decide. Saving the biosphere, in other words, cannot be left to goodwill and greenwash: the humanity of pleasant men like van der Veer will always be swept aside by the imperative to maximize returns. Good people in these circumstances do terrible things. Companies like Shell will pour big money into alternative energy only when more lucrative or immediate opportunities are blocked. Where is the government that is brave enough to block them?

And I put a comment on where is the government that is brave enough to block them?

There on Mars and some on Venus George. Probably a good idea to return to Earth while there is still time. Can that be done? I don’t know.  

This new administration is it brave enough to block them with the help of congress?  Probably in a few months we get to see greenwash in it&#039;s glory.  One question who is them?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you read your comments George?  I sent this to one of the financial channels this morning where you can see some of those them people.  I think they read my e-mails hell I don;t know.  I wonder if Obama or any of his people read DV as just on the off chance they do Obama are you going to try and block them whoever them are you know fight them?  Many of us will be watching and if you don&#8217;t there is not much we can do as working together is key if we wish to survive. Heck give it a fight what have we got to lose.  Human civilization and I am sure you already know this.  Thank you thank you very much. </p>
<p> &#8220;Nobody realistically expects that the large readily available pools of oil and gas will be left in the ground. Caps will not cause that to happen &#8211; caps only slow the rate at which the oil and gas are used. The only solution is to cut off the coal source,&#8221;   Hansen</p>
<p>   So far it looks like what Hansen wrote not to do will be the plan.  Say this is how it plays out then what, not much.  It&#8217;s called down the drain in slow motion.  Now many will think we are doing what is needed and of course in just a few years anyway even if we did do what is needed large changes to weather Worldwide.  In the Southeast we can already see the changes warmer winters and the crops some so far not good.  That weather in the Northwest the next few day&#8217;s is what is the word records.  California the next few summers should give us a sign that&#8217;s Indian talk.  George Monbiot just wrote a new article and put it on DV here is the last paragraph.</p>
<p>On this issue Jeroen van der Veer and I agree. Oil companies, he says, should not seek to determine a country’s energy mix: that is for the government to decide. Saving the biosphere, in other words, cannot be left to goodwill and greenwash: the humanity of pleasant men like van der Veer will always be swept aside by the imperative to maximize returns. Good people in these circumstances do terrible things. Companies like Shell will pour big money into alternative energy only when more lucrative or immediate opportunities are blocked. Where is the government that is brave enough to block them?</p>
<p>And I put a comment on where is the government that is brave enough to block them?</p>
<p>There on Mars and some on Venus George. Probably a good idea to return to Earth while there is still time. Can that be done? I don’t know.  </p>
<p>This new administration is it brave enough to block them with the help of congress?  Probably in a few months we get to see greenwash in it&#8217;s glory.  One question who is them?</p>
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		<title>By: The Angry Peasant</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/01/shells-game/#comment-35572</link>
		<dc:creator>The Angry Peasant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 03:31:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some good people do bad things because they know no better. Many do, in fact. A bamboozled, uninformed segment of the population that wanted &quot;change&quot; voted for a war-mongering elitist, after all. Then there are those who aren&#039;t really good people; they just play the part well. Such as...Obama! Boy, this guys gonna fill in for Bush just splendidly. He&#039;s already the prime example that springs to mind when talking about bad peopl.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some good people do bad things because they know no better. Many do, in fact. A bamboozled, uninformed segment of the population that wanted &#8220;change&#8221; voted for a war-mongering elitist, after all. Then there are those who aren&#8217;t really good people; they just play the part well. Such as&#8230;Obama! Boy, this guys gonna fill in for Bush just splendidly. He&#8217;s already the prime example that springs to mind when talking about bad peopl.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Hawkins</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/01/shells-game/#comment-35569</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Hawkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 03:25:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where is the government that is brave enough to block them?  There on Mars and some on Venus George.  Probably a good idea to return to Earth while there is still time.  Can that be done?  I don&#039;t know.</description>
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