Comments on: Match This for Stupidity: Taxing a House of Cards http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/01/match-this-for-stupidity-taxing-a-house-of-cards/ a radical newsletter in the struggle for peace and social justice Thu, 08 Dec 2011 15:07:30 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Bob McCafferty http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/01/match-this-for-stupidity-taxing-a-house-of-cards/#comment-37582 Bob McCafferty Sun, 01 Feb 2009 01:59:17 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=6476#comment-37582 They should tax the profits of the Oil Companies, and other so called American companies. They have our young men and women fight, kill and get killed for their profits. If Iraq had no oil we would not be there, and if Aghanistan was not to be a country that a gas pipeline was to go through for Unocal, we would not be there. There is far more damage done to our society by the transnational corporate, and financial institutions that all the alcohol, and tobacco ever used caused. As those secret societies, that President Kennedy warned us about, want-regressive taxes. We even are taxed by private industries, such as the insurance industry, and our taxpayer paid police force enforces it. It is called mandated auto insurance. They should tax the profits of the Oil Companies, and other so called American companies. They have our young men and women fight, kill and get killed for their profits. If Iraq had no oil we would not be there, and if Aghanistan was not to be a country that a gas pipeline was to go through for Unocal, we would not be there.
There is far more damage done to our society by the transnational corporate, and financial institutions that all the alcohol, and tobacco ever used caused. As those secret societies, that President Kennedy warned us about, want-regressive taxes.
We even are taxed by private industries, such as the insurance industry, and our taxpayer paid police force enforces it. It is called mandated auto insurance.

]]> By: Al http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/01/match-this-for-stupidity-taxing-a-house-of-cards/#comment-37563 Al Sat, 31 Jan 2009 06:50:42 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=6476#comment-37563 Since there is no Universal Health care in the USA, the government has no business taxing tobacco & alcohol. Since there is no Universal Health care in the USA, the government has no business taxing tobacco & alcohol.

]]> By: Dan Coyle http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/01/match-this-for-stupidity-taxing-a-house-of-cards/#comment-37512 Dan Coyle Fri, 30 Jan 2009 18:48:23 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=6476#comment-37512 This article just further proves my theory that all hard leftists are no-government, no-accountability libertarians to the core. This article just further proves my theory that all hard leftists are no-government, no-accountability libertarians to the core.

]]> By: Tree http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/01/match-this-for-stupidity-taxing-a-house-of-cards/#comment-37492 Tree Fri, 30 Jan 2009 13:38:24 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=6476#comment-37492 If the government wants to make more money they should legalize drugs--then heavily tax them. Just think of the possibilities... If the government wants to make more money they should legalize drugs–then heavily tax them. Just think of the possibilities…

]]> By: Dogwood http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/01/match-this-for-stupidity-taxing-a-house-of-cards/#comment-37480 Dogwood Fri, 30 Jan 2009 03:05:53 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=6476#comment-37480 Eddie, Not taxing income, and taxing Wall Street speculation - with a serious government for the people behind these initiatives - would financially help your father and the poor tons more than any elimination of a cigarette tax. Indeed, these and other initiatives, such as Single Payer health care (considering that most personal bankruptcies in this country are due to medical bills that financially impoverish and devastate entire families) would go quite a way to actually ending poverty. I completely understand the injustice that drives your point. There are excellent, all-encompassing solutions to these problems. I've mentioned a few. The tragedy is that an Obama presidency will not lead the way toward these solutions - so we must. For more information on these solutions, go to votenader.org. I believe the site is still up. It's imperative to know the easily implemented solutions available to our current and increasing problems - if, and only if, we have governmental branches serious about addressing them. And if you're as outraged as you justifiably sound, and want to do something about it, go to november5.org and sign up. Single Payer will be the first issue of a country-wide citizens group forming to hold congressional feet to the peoples fire on solutions to issues that the people demand but that our corporate government would rather ignore. Obama won't do it. We have to. Eddie,

Not taxing income, and taxing Wall Street speculation – with a serious government for the people behind these initiatives – would financially help your father and the poor tons more than any elimination of a cigarette tax. Indeed, these and other initiatives, such as Single Payer health care (considering that most personal bankruptcies in this country are due to medical bills that financially impoverish and devastate entire families) would go quite a way to actually ending poverty.

I completely understand the injustice that drives your point. There are excellent, all-encompassing solutions to these problems. I’ve mentioned a few. The tragedy is that an Obama presidency will not lead the way toward these solutions – so we must.

For more information on these solutions, go to votenader.org. I believe the site is still up. It’s imperative to know the easily implemented solutions available to our current and increasing problems – if, and only if, we have governmental branches serious about addressing them.

And if you’re as outraged as you justifiably sound, and want to do something about it, go to november5.org and sign up. Single Payer will be the first issue of a country-wide citizens group forming to hold congressional feet to the peoples fire on solutions to issues that the people demand but that our corporate government would rather ignore. Obama won’t do it. We have to.

]]> By: Eddie http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/01/match-this-for-stupidity-taxing-a-house-of-cards/#comment-37474 Eddie Fri, 30 Jan 2009 00:25:53 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=6476#comment-37474 No. It's not fair. I don't smoke. My grandfather did. You think the smoking tax is fair? Really? My father -- first generation US (from Mexico) -- lived on nickles and dimes (Social Security). You want to pretend that blanket tax was fair to him as it was to some rich person? Hey, if you want to argue flat tax, go for it. But I believe that's an idea that people like Steve Forbes usually push. We're supposed to want a progressive tax. Except when it comes to the so-called 'sins' and those 'sin' taxes always hit the poor the hardest. No. It’s not fair. I don’t smoke. My grandfather did. You think the smoking tax is fair? Really? My father — first generation US (from Mexico) — lived on nickles and dimes (Social Security). You want to pretend that blanket tax was fair to him as it was to some rich person? Hey, if you want to argue flat tax, go for it. But I believe that’s an idea that people like Steve Forbes usually push. We’re supposed to want a progressive tax. Except when it comes to the so-called ‘sins’ and those ‘sin’ taxes always hit the poor the hardest.

]]> By: Dogwood http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/01/match-this-for-stupidity-taxing-a-house-of-cards/#comment-37470 Dogwood Thu, 29 Jan 2009 21:49:39 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=6476#comment-37470 While I would wholeheartedly agree with many of your points, on the whole, however, isn't it reasonable to tax those items only that are indeed a direct and documented harm to society? Specifically, alcohol and tobacco. Assuredly ridiculous: the lighters, the juice, etc. But you might want to be careful in lumping together the ridiculous items to be taxed along with the very sound and reasonable items. I'm not the first to point out how much more just and financially sound we as a society would be if we did not tax things we need and want - like income; but did tax things that we, as a society, either do not need, or want, or which can cause direct harm - like tobacco, alcohol, and so much more - like, most for instance, Wall Street speculation. The most minute tax on Wall Street speculation would bring in 10's of billions of dollars per year - and all this nonsense about taxing lighters would be understandably laughable. But Obama tax Wall Street speculation? If people reading this are still in the dark as to where Obama's alliegences lay, especially in this time of financial disaster, simply seriously and honestly ponder that simple question.... While I would wholeheartedly agree with many of your points, on the whole, however, isn’t it reasonable to tax those items only that are indeed a direct and documented harm to society? Specifically, alcohol and tobacco. Assuredly ridiculous: the lighters, the juice, etc. But you might want to be careful in lumping together the ridiculous items to be taxed along with the very sound and reasonable items. I’m not the first to point out how much more just and financially sound we as a society would be if we did not tax things we need and want – like income; but did tax things that we, as a society, either do not need, or want, or which can cause direct harm – like tobacco, alcohol, and so much more – like, most for instance, Wall Street speculation. The most minute tax on Wall Street speculation would bring in 10′s of billions of dollars per year – and all this nonsense about taxing lighters would be understandably laughable. But Obama tax Wall Street speculation? If people reading this are still in the dark as to where Obama’s alliegences lay, especially in this time of financial disaster, simply seriously and honestly ponder that simple question….

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