Using any terms around zionist ideologies, people falsely equate anti-zionism with anti-semitism (more spin). What I mean when I mention zionist ideologies is not Jews (as many Hassidic Jews are abhorrent of these ideologies) but every strata of society, neo-cons, mormons, jehovahs witnesses, christians, muslims, hindus, freemasons – ALL the upper echelons of religions, finance and politics are infested with racist, zionistic idealogies.

To decide that all Jews are Zionists is to do exactly what they want you to do – they are laughing at you because you are now exactly the same as them, a racists thug! Many Jews are against Zionist ideologies, I am a gentile researcher who has seen much evidence of this.

anti elitist / anti zionist

Women on both sides are relegated to the background by revered antiquated scriptures.

Start respecting basic human rights if you wouuld ever hope for peace and prosperity.

the latest israeli tactical victory may or may not be doing anything for its final goal.
but we do know that multitude of euro/US/ tsunamis against the palestinians, who may be only slightly arabian, had not to date succeeded,
there are more pals now than ever; more than ever willing to die like a people.
so, euros are desperate, enraged that such low life (in their eyes) is still standing up to mighty europe, US, and some of the americas.
thnx

One more thing Israel has been given hundred of billions of dollars from the US since its inception… And you are so amazed that they have the technology and nuclear weapons to have hegemony over the greater region!

Hamas doesnt value life because they are mossad agents, thats why they dont kill anyone with their rockets.

Even if the aforementioned blurb was an exaggeration consider what it is you are saying: These people are fighting because they like to fight. Clearly its not because they were colonized by people duped into believing they were the chosen ones with amoral secularist theotricks, and a desire for the early 20th century ‘west’ to outdo Germany in building repoire with Arabs of the same corrupt feather to exploit resource wealth.

“Can you imagine what Palestine would have looked like if in 1947 Arab state was accepted and have been developed along the same lines as Israel?”

Hmmm I am guessing your implicitly (and stereotypically) implying that thousands would be killed, would be treated as second class citizens, require passports, be deported, have their homes looted and checked at random, be a testing ground for unnecessary criminal weapons, and play into a dialectical geopolitical ploy for middle eastern domination? And what exactley do Palestinian living conditions look like right now? That space age architecture is stupifying! Asides from the illegal suburban style Israeli settlements and their cutting edge life destroying technologies I am really not impressed Giddy.

Womens rights in Gaza? Are they of a higher standard than this?
http://i.a.cnn.net/si/features/2006_swimsuit/story/elle_macpherson/qa_macpherson.jpg

Here is a reality check: Puppet Arab dictatorships and monarchies are zionists, alike any elite on the face of the planet. Americas interventionist practices have amounted in far more deaths then these people you have been conidtioned to believe are inherently sadistic islamofascist killing machines. Dubai uses slave labour. Iran was a democracy before it was corrupted by British/ American Zionuts.

MANY PEOPLE ARE MISSING THE POINT OF ALL OF THIS. They timed this so that peoples moral energy (recently devoted to economic reformation) would be exhausted and take their attention away from the plundering of the fake economy by the REAL zionists, and of course generate more terrorists which will give them justification for tighter global security measures and reasons to invade more countries… like fking clockwork. They WANT people to hate Israel Giddy, its reverse propaganda. Which will at worst create division between the highly bullshit sedated people like yourself and moral humans who are naturally concerned about children being discombobulated and having their faces burnt off, but unfortunatley have also fallen into the trap; albeit of a far greater moral caliber then your own. The age old Hegelian dialectic marches forward unabated in different clothes probably no clothes but we will surely believe they are wearing some!

The funny thing is ‘Gideon’, is that the Zionist Talmudic beliefs are what epitomize this lack of concern for life as you put it, and it is not limited to Jews, but anything beyond someone who says things like “hamas doesnt care about life” requires cultural relational skills that likley wont expand your purview for many years to come.

And as for your last trite remark, in which you project your own intellectual void onto the author, dont worry Giddy, when they come for you or ask you to go to war, your intellectual and articulation will find a way to rationalize it… somehow.

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Israel does not need Raison d’etre, it exists period!

It is impressive to see what Israel as a country and Israelis as people have achieved in the last 60 years.

Can you imagine what Palestine would have looked like if in 1947 Arab state was accepted and have been developed along the same lines as Israel?

Well, no change with Hamas, as if the time stopped, this organization has a goal of Israel destruction and uses terrorism by design to kill as many Israeli civilians as possible and any dissident Palestinians as well (see street executions of Fatah members).

Any of participants on this panel would be interested to relocate and live in Hamas run society in Gaza? I promise to read ALL your posts from there! Mary, what are your thoughts about women rights in Hamas run Gaza?

As Hamas does not value life, it finds no issues in playing Hamas Roulette – shooting rockets in Israeli cities, sending the children of its own poorest families on homicide missions or using its own population as a human shield (a crime against humanity and a violation of Geneva convention)

Yes, Hamas is prepared to fight till the last Gazan.

Israel has many voices and many political parties (including a Communist Party with seats in the Parliament), as real democracy should. The Israeli public opinion supports this military operation en mass, because each and every one feels that they are protecting their own home. And they do.

There is hope. Let’s see how Palestinians can transform Gaza into the
Riviera of the Mediterranean it can be. Let’s see the Dubai model at work! That would impress the Gazans, Israelis and whole World!

And Gary, if you are one of the people that does not know the difference between a Zionist and a cinnamon twist, please do not lose hope. You will be amazed how much knowledge you can gain if you willing to invest the time.

I recall asking a Jewish colleague in the sixties (1967 war). How can one help or volunteer the Israelis my ‘limited’ services? His reply,–”Don’t worry, they can handle it.” My gullible innocence took a bit of a bashing.

I’ve found that the majority of Jews are like the majority of the rest of us, getting on with life under varying circumstances.

Boycotts are a beginning.

Gary Corseri, you seem to have a way with the English language, as well as considerable insight into the depths of the current conjuncture. Seldom does one come across political discourse which rises to the level of Literature, but this piece of yours is very close.

Boycott! Yes, by all means boycott everything you can connect to Israel or to the US Zionist power structure. Hopefully, numerous well-researched Boycott Lists will be made available. However, the organization SUSTAIN has been trying to promote boycotting Caterpillar for some six years but doesn’t seem to have made much of a dent.
My own choice of a target for mass movement-wide boycott is the Democratic Party. Of course many have reached the point where they no longer vote for Democrat congressional candidates, or donate to the DNC — but on the local level the phenomenon of “progressive Democrats” is still flourishing. They’re still accepted as part of “anti-war” coalitions, still invited to Endorse & C0-Sponsor, still able to schmooze & be schmoozed.
My view is that anyone who openly identifies as a Democrat should be socially ostracized and publicly denounced. This is the firm conclusion I’ve reached after decades of trying to work with Democrats in a litany of reform struggles. No more toleration of people trying to have one foot on this side of the principle contradiction while enjoying the benefits of membership in the Zionist Consensus.
Yes, there may be times when a group of oppressed people are struggling for some direly needed concession, when people may find themselves cooperating/coordinating with Demo-party-linked outfits. Such tricky situations may be impossible to entirely avoid. But it should be possible to make it clear to the politically less-sophisticated participants that your cooperation with any Democrat politicians or operatives is purely tactical.
It must be realized that Bad People often find it useful to support Good Causes. This is a basic technique of Social Control in the context of Capitalist Democracy. If you want to catch a fish, you need to offer some bait.
Michael Moore is one example, Tom Hayden is another. Even slicker are the foreign policy gambits, wherein we see a Steven Zunes doing creditable work on the East Timor issue which lends legitimacy to his real work deflecting criticism from the ZPC. Or the yearly SOA protests which legitimize the pro-Zionist PDA. The Haiti issue is used in similar fashion, allowing Charlie Rangel to pose as a “progressive”.
The point you have to grasp is that these are genuine progressive causes, things that need to be worked on. There are many other examples of this sort of thing, many clever angles to these games.

When you back up & contemplate what the puppetmasters have been able to get away with over the years & decades, it boggles the mind. What a magnificent structure… of lies. What amazing creativity in finding ways to get you to colonize your own mind, to see your own exploitation & oppression as the product of your own freedom.

It’s all an Elaborate Minuet. But I refuse to dance. If I can’t do much to oppose what’s going on, at least I can stop participating in it.

No Mas!

“A campaign to tax the warmongering churches and synagogues is one way we can begin to take back our world”
YES! I’m all for taxing these parasites. It would greatly shorten the present world recession…

As for “our favorite living mummy, Mubarak” I couldn’t help but chuckle despite the tragedy of it all….

The US military are trained to dehumanize the Arab populations by brainwashing and indoctrinating these young men with the idea that the people they soon are going to shoot at and kill are just
‘sand-niggers’, and so really nothing to feel any compunction about !
They just little crawling things in the desert ….

As for mebosa ritchie’s statement,
“Hamas on Monday raided some 100 aid trucks that Israel had allowed into Gaza, stole their contents and sold them to the highest bidders” sounds like those Israeli PR women on TV ( have you noticed they now use women, mainly? ) The LIES thru a woman’s appearance and voice are more convincing…so they think.

By the way mebosa ritchie, what’s the rate AIPAC pays you for each of your ‘crude and brainless’ posts in DV?

Are you completely lacking any capacity to acknowledge the truth?Please do not waste everyone’s time by your senseless comments.

PASSENGERS & CREW OF THE SPIRIT OF HUMANITY

Abufalah, Othman Mohammad, Journalist with Al Jazeera Television (Jordan)

Ahidar, Fouad, Member of Parliament (Belgium)

Arraf, Huwaida, human rights lawyer and Delegation Leader (Palestine/USA)

Bitsanis, Konstantinos, human rights worker and crew (Greece)

Bolos, Nikolas, human rights worker and crew (Greece)

Bowden, David, Journalist with SKY TV (UK)

Caruso, Francesco, former Member of Parliament (Italy)

Dabbagh, Ali, Doctor (UK)

Dritsas, Theodoros, Member of Parliament (Greece)

Gentile, Alessandro, Journalist with CNN (Italy)

Gezelius, Mats, Journalist (Sweden/Finland)

Giannopolis, Nikolaos, human rights worker (Greece)

Jacquier, Gilles, Journalist with France Channel 2 (France)

Kampani, Chalent, Orthopedic Surgeon (Greece)

Kanellakis, Yiannis, Journalist with Greek Mega TV (Greece)

Karatzias, Petros, Journalist with the Associated Press (Cyprus)

Kawkuby, Jasir, Doctor and Pediatric Intensive Care specialist (Germany)

Klontzas, George, Ship’s Captain (Greece)

Muncie, Andrew, human rights worker and crew (Scotland)

McLuckie, Garwen, Journalist with SKY TV (UK)

Mourad, Maimouni (Belgium)

Muir, Alistair, Journalist with the BBC (UK)

Nuet, Joan Josef, Member of Parliament (Spain)

Papachristopoulos, Athanasios, Surgeon (Greece)

Pissias, Vangelis, University Professor (Greece)

Pratt, David, Journalist with the Sunday Herald (UK)

Prieto, Monica, Journalist with El Mundo (Spain)

Rahali, Hassan, Journalist (Belgium)

Robbins, Sonia, Surgeon (UK)

Sakorafa, Sofia, Member of Parliament (Greece)

Shakir, Thair, Journalist with Al Jazeera television (Iraq)

Synodynou, Melina, Journalist with Ethnos (Greece)

Tsatsis, Angelos, Journalist with MEGA TV (Greece)

Vinci, Alessio, Journalist with CNN (Italy)

Yvon, Xavier, Journalist with RTL Radio (France)

Zdoukos, Theodoros, Doctor (Greece)

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The refrain from The Stolen Child, (first stanza):

Come away, O human child!
To the waters and the wild
With a faery, hand in hand,
For the world’s more full of weeping than you
can understand.

Ah! but that we could.

What Israel is doing in Gaza cannot be hidden or explained away. It bears naked the rancid ideology of Zionism’s. This is why you are seeing such a tremendous propaganda campaign shifting the blame to Hamas’ “rockets”. There was yet another disgustingly phony debate on Democracy Now today with the vile Lanny Davis. These so-called debates legitimizes the Zionist position. Such “debates” on its face should discredited. For example, I have yet to see Amy Goodman invite Ali Abunimah of Electronic Intifada to one of these “debates” on Israel’s bombing of Gaza.

On the other hand the situation has become so serious that now even Naomi Klein has written an article calling for a boycott of Israel and to confront with Israel in the same manner as apartheid South Africa. This is a huge shift from her the rhetoric that the War on Iraq was solely a neo-liberal project designed to camouflage any role that Zionism played leading up to the War on Iraq.

A word of caution however. I think that there is a segment of the Left that has been afraid of confronting Zionism for fear of an anti-Semitic backlash and with so many Jews in prominent positions especially in the midst of a faltering economy. But this is the one of very many reasons why the Left must confront Zionism rather than spending time obscuring it.

The Palestinian resistance is succeeding.

“Drowning in our own excrement” is certainly the most colorfully foul way to describe our current predicament along our line of supposed evolution…although it often appears more like de-evolution.

The empathy gene question is one I ponder myself, good to see I’m not the only one. Empathy, like compassion and kindness, seem to be human relational commodities which have been and are in short availability…though I see no associated costs to attain them. This scarcity holds especially true at least among the elite tyrants around the world who inflict or support the overwhelming majority of horror on the masses.

You point out, along with Naomi and others, the most effective and direct measure of activism that a socially conscious person can take — BOYCOTT ISRAEL AND ITS CORPORATE ASSOCIATES! Hit em where it hurts on a global scale — in their sacks…of currency.

Son of a bitch, though, if I’m not really being pressed now against the bulkhead of morality to abandon my Colombian Piel Roja, non-filter tobacco that Philip Morris purchased a few years back. I guess this is just one more good reason to quit…F**K!

Happy 2009!
And as always, best to you.