Comments on: For Palestinians, Obama’s Message is Crystal Clear

By: Michael Hureaux

Michael Hureaux — Sat, 31 Jan 2009 21:56:18 +0000

Obama’s description of Israel as a “democracy”, when it is nothing of the kind, demonstrates as loud as anything can that even though he is a “consummate” politician, his savvy only extends as far as the interests of the firepower he represents will allow him to travel. I’m not sure what he expects to gain negotiating with Palestine with the completely discredited Abbas and Palestinian authority, or working with Livny and the Israeli “left” to move settlers out of the West Bank using whatever firepower they need to, but the paths of boojwah politics are always murky and machiavellian. Whatever comes of it, I doubt it will be any good for Palestine, despite the sunny glow commentators like Alex Cockburn are putting on Obamian strategy this morning.

By: Max Shields

Max Shields — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 03:00:26 +0000

Jack
You are right. I stand corrected.
Max

By: giorgio

giorgio — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 02:44:27 +0000

Is Israel running out of chutzpah ?
I just saw the PM of Turkey giving a severe dressing down to Israel’s Simon Peres regarding the massacre of Gazians during a meeting at the World Economic Forum. Then Turkey’s PM walks out of the meeting in a huff and flew back home and a huge popular acclaim, leaving Peres whinning about Israel’s right to self-defence…What a jerk!
It’s in Israel’s interests to have good relations with Turquey. This Gaza killing spree may turn out to be Israel’s worse shot in the foot ever and the beginnings of worldwide condemnation of its blatant policy of exterminating Palestinians and Arabs.

Even if Obama is in Israel’s pocket today, he will be sensitive to any outcry both in the world and in America. Being a consumate politician, if the tide turns against Israel, he will most likely find that he will have to run with it…

By: Jack

Jack — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 02:35:25 +0000

Max,

I think Ramzy’s “imposed” illustrates his point.

Respectfully,

Jack

By: Max Shields

Max Shields — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 02:22:23 +0000

Ramzy
You’re living a fantacy. You have not read US history and certainly have no understanding of empire and the US imperial empire that now is the greatest world threat.

Moral authority? When and how, prey tell. Tell me a moment in US history when the US was not expanding, killing, committing genocide, toppling governments, occupying foreign lands and on and on.

The only “moral authority” the US has provided is the shelter it gives to his off-spring – Israel to do the same thing to the local indigenous people that the conquering Europeans did here in the US.

You cannot begin to speak to a problem you do not understand.

There is a small thing called reality and it’s crashing down on your little fantacy and it’s fring liberalism that is the other evil form of ruling that was represented by Bush.

By: Suthiano

Suthiano — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 20:10:27 +0000

Americans will be forced to reengage reality eventually. It will not be a pleasant sight when they do: millions of obese people rolling around in their tears.

By: Michael Kenny

Michael Kenny — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 20:10:24 +0000

Is Obama’s message as clear as all that? Nobody expected him to embrace the Palestinian cause but while the fighting was going on, he was very lukewarm in his adoration for Israel. I can’t ever remember a US politician being so evasive. The important point in that is that Obama is bought and paid for by the Israel Lobby, so whatever he said is what they wanted him to say. I conclude from that the Lobby itself is starting to see that Israel is an impossible dream and Mitchell’s role is to try to get the Palestinians to agree to an “Israel-friendly” solution before they catch their breath, so to speak, and realise that Israel is militarily defeated, politically bankrupt and morally discredited. And that they, the Palestinians, have won!

By: Ugly Deaf Muslim Punk Gurl!

Ugly Deaf Muslim Punk Gurl! — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 19:13:36 +0000

well said, Ramzy. I am utterly embarrassed and appalled by people’s blind optimism and hope in Obama… nothing will change! Not as long as the US remains a staunch supporter of Israel’s security!

By: bozh

bozh — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 19:10:08 +0000

is there a people that are as deluded as amers? and not because they are stupid! amers are more cultish, exception being ‘jews’, than any other folk i know of.

they love their stars; elevating them to near godlike status. in movies, it is often one person who saves a town, city, and even US.
obama had also been elevated to such a stardom (almost as big as john waine) because media and obama were telling amers that he is a new savior.
but espying the obvious that all clero-political ‘promises’ are lies wld have awakened many and wld make them run over to nader or mckinney.
but media, clergy, or schooling will never tell amers this truth. so, in ten yrs, a new star will rise; the same story repeated for 45th time.
how long Lord? thnx