Comments on: Carter Redux http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/01/carter-redux/ a radical newsletter in the struggle for peace and social justice Thu, 08 Dec 2011 15:07:30 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Mulga Mumblebrain http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/01/carter-redux/#comment-37537 Mulga Mumblebrain Sat, 31 Jan 2009 00:14:07 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=6452#comment-37537 Personally I wish Obama every misfortune, politically, that could possibly befall him. He is a complete fraud, a confidence-man, pretending to be what he is not, nor could ever be, an agent of 'change' in a polity carefully crafted over generations to be immutably unchanging. The USA is a country ruled by those who own it, as John Jay famously asserted, and its raison d'etre has always been global empire to enrich its ruling elite. Under Obama we will see the removal of Karzai, one way or another, as he objects to US slaughter of his people through aerial bombardment and death-squad assassination, and the intensification of this neo-colonial outrage and its spread to Pakistan. We will see the Iraqi morass grow yet more bloody, if the Iraqis attempt to break free from Washington's embrace. We will see new interferences and subversions in Latin America, a New New Cold War against Russia and China, to re-assert the waning US imperium.We will see either tacit approval or outright complicity in new aggressions by Israel against Lebanon, Iran and possibly Syria, and the ongoing destruction of Palestinian society, as Obama is a creature of the pro-Israel Lobby. To hope for Obama to somehow pull the US out of its richly merited economic death-spiral , is to wish that Moloch grows a new set of fangs. A US devastated by economic collapse, unable to afford its incessant interferences and massacres throughout the rest of the world, is the best thing, in my opinion, that could happen to our unhappy planet. The citizens of the US might find time to re-organise their social arrangements in a less inegalitarian and radically unjust manner, too-if they have the stomach for it. Personally I wish Obama every misfortune, politically, that could possibly befall him. He is a complete fraud, a confidence-man, pretending to be what he is not, nor could ever be, an agent of ‘change’ in a polity carefully crafted over generations to be immutably unchanging. The USA is a country ruled by those who own it, as John Jay famously asserted, and its raison d’etre has always been global empire to enrich its ruling elite. Under Obama we will see the removal of Karzai, one way or another, as he objects to US slaughter of his people through aerial bombardment and death-squad assassination, and the intensification of this neo-colonial outrage and its spread to Pakistan. We will see the Iraqi morass grow yet more bloody, if the Iraqis attempt to break free from Washington’s embrace. We will see new interferences and subversions in Latin America, a New New Cold War against Russia and China, to re-assert the waning US imperium.We will see either tacit approval or outright complicity in new aggressions by Israel against Lebanon, Iran and possibly Syria, and the ongoing destruction of Palestinian society, as Obama is a creature of the pro-Israel Lobby. To hope for Obama to somehow pull the US out of its richly merited economic death-spiral , is to wish that Moloch grows a new set of fangs. A US devastated by economic collapse, unable to afford its incessant interferences and massacres throughout the rest of the world, is the best thing, in my opinion, that could happen to our unhappy planet. The citizens of the US might find time to re-organise their social arrangements in a less inegalitarian and radically unjust manner, too-if they have the stomach for it.

]]> By: Michael Hureaux http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/01/carter-redux/#comment-37454 Michael Hureaux Thu, 29 Jan 2009 16:23:38 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=6452#comment-37454 There is no saving this system without taking it out of the hides of the working class majority. If we're going to make sacrifices, let's fight for revolutionary democracy. If capital has to make huge concessions, so much for capital. But the days of our sacrificing and doing without heat for weeks- as they're suggesting is going to happen in Kentucky, right now- that has to be over with. To hell with these bastards. If we have to do without, let's let it be on our terms, and not on the terms of the bankers and speculators. There is no saving this system without taking it out of the hides of the working class majority. If we’re going to make sacrifices, let’s fight for revolutionary democracy. If capital has to make huge concessions, so much for capital. But the days of our sacrificing and doing without heat for weeks- as they’re suggesting is going to happen in Kentucky, right now- that has to be over with. To hell with these bastards. If we have to do without, let’s let it be on our terms, and not on the terms of the bankers and speculators.

]]> By: Michael Kenny http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/01/carter-redux/#comment-37418 Michael Kenny Wed, 28 Jan 2009 22:02:23 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=6452#comment-37418 There's one big difference that also needs to be borne in mind. During the Cold War, the world had to prop the US up because it needed it. Now, precisely because of the bullying Mr Walberg mentions, the world's interest is to see the US go down, at least to the point of no longer being able to project power beyond its own borders. That will suit Obama's FDR ambitions, but it will not suit his Israel Lobby masters. There’s one big difference that also needs to be borne in mind. During the Cold War, the world had to prop the US up because it needed it. Now, precisely because of the bullying Mr Walberg mentions, the world’s interest is to see the US go down, at least to the point of no longer being able to project power beyond its own borders. That will suit Obama’s FDR ambitions, but it will not suit his Israel Lobby masters.

]]> By: John Hatch http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/01/carter-redux/#comment-37411 John Hatch Wed, 28 Jan 2009 20:57:16 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=6452#comment-37411 I'm not so sure the easy part is over, or that there is an easy part. There are a lot of completely innocent people at Guantanamo (some held for seven years) that America will dump wherever it can, and try to forget, something that it's quite good at. There is suspicion that dark dungeons will continue to exist (how would we even know where they are?) There are fears that 'extraordinary renditions' will continue, but more secretly. America doesn't torture, they outsource it. Hush-hush. Neo-con crocadiles in Congress are trying to extort the new Attorney General designate to agree not to investigate and possibly prosecute crimes against humanity. They may succeed. President Obama is relying on unrepentent hardliners such as Defense (sic) Secretary Gates and Secretary of State Hilary Clinton, and Bush obedient mass killers Odienero and Petraeus, to name but a few. And then there's the economy, with the crooked banksters still in charge. Private jet, anyone? But there's nowhere to go. I’m not so sure the easy part is over, or that there is an easy part. There are a lot of completely innocent people at Guantanamo (some held for seven years) that America will dump wherever it can, and try to forget, something that it’s quite good at.

There is suspicion that dark dungeons will continue to exist (how would we even know where they are?)

There are fears that ‘extraordinary renditions’ will continue, but more secretly. America doesn’t torture, they outsource it. Hush-hush.

Neo-con crocadiles in Congress are trying to extort the new Attorney General designate to agree not to investigate and possibly prosecute crimes against humanity. They may succeed.

President Obama is relying on unrepentent hardliners such as Defense (sic) Secretary Gates and Secretary of State Hilary Clinton, and Bush obedient mass killers Odienero and Petraeus, to name but a few.

And then there’s the economy, with the crooked banksters still in charge.

Private jet, anyone? But there’s nowhere to go.

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