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		<title>By: bozh</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/01/bush-plan-eliminated-obstacle-to-gaza-assault/#comment-35707</link>
		<dc:creator>bozh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 12:05:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mebosa,
&quot;shpiel&quot;  derives from german  word  &quot;spielen&quot;. are you a selfhating jew?
and then we have  &quot;shlep&quot; , from  &quot;schleppen&quot;; weh, schlotz, stimme, etc.
what&#039;s happened to your shemitic tongue? the one arabs also use?
yabotinski, later ze&#039;ev, must be turning in his grave while you are speaking same words nazis used.
do you also say, Heil Herr Scharon, Herr Lieberman, Herr Schmuel? 
thnx</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mebosa,<br />
&#8220;shpiel&#8221;  derives from german  word  &#8220;spielen&#8221;. are you a selfhating jew?<br />
and then we have  &#8220;shlep&#8221; , from  &#8220;schleppen&#8221;; weh, schlotz, stimme, etc.<br />
what&#8217;s happened to your shemitic tongue? the one arabs also use?<br />
yabotinski, later ze&#8217;ev, must be turning in his grave while you are speaking same words nazis used.<br />
do you also say, Heil Herr Scharon, Herr Lieberman, Herr Schmuel?<br />
thnx</p>
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		<title>By: Shabnam</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/01/bush-plan-eliminated-obstacle-to-gaza-assault/#comment-35686</link>
		<dc:creator>Shabnam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 04:07:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Israel is doing everything to CENSOR  information to prevent its war crimes activity reaches the outside world.  Israel is seeking to entirely control the message and narrative in Gaza for Public Relation purposes.  But, many journalists put their lives in danger to report on situation on Gaza&#039;s suffering .   A Palestinian  Journalist working for an Iranian television station has been arrested  and with  his assistant has  been taken to an unspecified location.  No one has  information on their condition.   

KHADR SHAHINE, who reported for Iran&#039;s state-owned Arabic language Al-Alam television station, has been arrested with a spurious charge &quot;violating censorship rules&quot;  where he is accused of reported the beginning of Israel&#039;s ground offensive against the Gaza Strip before it was permitted by military censors, Israeli authorities said. 

 Israel cannot survive by censoring its war crimes against defenseless people of Gaza. They have taken Khadr Shahine, the Journalist, a brave reporter who was doing his job.  Israel must free this journalist and his assistant immediately.  Their job is to report the truth about Israeli &#039;s war crimes against humanity.  There is a rumor that they want to give him a sentence of 15 to 20 years in prison for this spurious charge.  Khadr Shahine a Palestinian who lives in East Jerusalem.  He covered the Israel assault against Lebanon 2 years ago.

ISRAEL HAS NO RIGHT  TO EXIST.  DOWN WITH ZIONISM  WORSE THAN FASCISM.   DOWN WITH IMPERIALISM</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Israel is doing everything to CENSOR  information to prevent its war crimes activity reaches the outside world.  Israel is seeking to entirely control the message and narrative in Gaza for Public Relation purposes.  But, many journalists put their lives in danger to report on situation on Gaza&#8217;s suffering .   A Palestinian  Journalist working for an Iranian television station has been arrested  and with  his assistant has  been taken to an unspecified location.  No one has  information on their condition.   </p>
<p>KHADR SHAHINE, who reported for Iran&#8217;s state-owned Arabic language Al-Alam television station, has been arrested with a spurious charge &#8220;violating censorship rules&#8221;  where he is accused of reported the beginning of Israel&#8217;s ground offensive against the Gaza Strip before it was permitted by military censors, Israeli authorities said. </p>
<p> Israel cannot survive by censoring its war crimes against defenseless people of Gaza. They have taken Khadr Shahine, the Journalist, a brave reporter who was doing his job.  Israel must free this journalist and his assistant immediately.  Their job is to report the truth about Israeli &#8217;s war crimes against humanity.  There is a rumor that they want to give him a sentence of 15 to 20 years in prison for this spurious charge.  Khadr Shahine a Palestinian who lives in East Jerusalem.  He covered the Israel assault against Lebanon 2 years ago.</p>
<p>ISRAEL HAS NO RIGHT  TO EXIST.  DOWN WITH ZIONISM  WORSE THAN FASCISM.   DOWN WITH IMPERIALISM</p>
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		<title>By: Max Shields</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/01/bush-plan-eliminated-obstacle-to-gaza-assault/#comment-35674</link>
		<dc:creator>Max Shields</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 01:54:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mebosa ritchie 
That&#039;s right, DV is about alternative voices which is why we do our best to ignore the corporate zionist version provided (like yours).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mebosa ritchie<br />
That&#8217;s right, DV is about alternative voices which is why we do our best to ignore the corporate zionist version provided (like yours).</p>
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		<title>By: mebosa ritchie</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/01/bush-plan-eliminated-obstacle-to-gaza-assault/#comment-35666</link>
		<dc:creator>mebosa ritchie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 23:44:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dissident Voice is an internet newsletter dedicated to challenging the distortions and lies of the corporate press and the privileged classes it serves. The goal of Dissident Voice is to provide hard hitting, thought provoking and even entertaining news and commentaries on politics and culture that can serve as ammunition in struggles for peace and social justice.

so says the shpiel at the top of about dv
but one is not allowed to be a dissident voice on dissident voice
all the articles about gaza are anti-israel and any pro-israel postings are removed and the poster gets blocked
a bit hypocritical,dissident voice or do you only want to hear opinions that agree with??
is that not fascism</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dissident Voice is an internet newsletter dedicated to challenging the distortions and lies of the corporate press and the privileged classes it serves. The goal of Dissident Voice is to provide hard hitting, thought provoking and even entertaining news and commentaries on politics and culture that can serve as ammunition in struggles for peace and social justice.</p>
<p>so says the shpiel at the top of about dv<br />
but one is not allowed to be a dissident voice on dissident voice<br />
all the articles about gaza are anti-israel and any pro-israel postings are removed and the poster gets blocked<br />
a bit hypocritical,dissident voice or do you only want to hear opinions that agree with??<br />
is that not fascism</p>
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		<title>By: louisa</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/01/bush-plan-eliminated-obstacle-to-gaza-assault/#comment-35614</link>
		<dc:creator>louisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 14:32:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What happened to Susan Abulhawa&#039;s piece?  Did I imagine reading it yesterday or did it get censored?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What happened to Susan Abulhawa&#8217;s piece?  Did I imagine reading it yesterday or did it get censored?</p>
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		<title>By: Shabnam</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/01/bush-plan-eliminated-obstacle-to-gaza-assault/#comment-35559</link>
		<dc:creator>Shabnam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 01:36:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is not American plan, this is an Israeli plan, forced upon their puppet, George Bush, who will take it into their fucking graves, one by one. 
Down with war criminals and their puppets, Bush and Obama, the first Jewish president.  Obama and Bush both are war criminals.  America is a Zionist puppet state where majorities   are accomplice in Zionist war crimes.
http://angryarab.blogspot.com/2009/01/nyts-bronner-calls-them-islamist-rulers.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is not American plan, this is an Israeli plan, forced upon their puppet, George Bush, who will take it into their fucking graves, one by one.<br />
Down with war criminals and their puppets, Bush and Obama, the first Jewish president.  Obama and Bush both are war criminals.  America is a Zionist puppet state where majorities   are accomplice in Zionist war crimes.<br />
<a href="http://angryarab.blogspot.com/2009/01/nyts-bronner-calls-them-islamist-rulers.html" rel="nofollow">http://angryarab.blogspot.com/2009/01/nyts-bronner-calls-them-islamist-rulers.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Shabnam</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/01/bush-plan-eliminated-obstacle-to-gaza-assault/#comment-35555</link>
		<dc:creator>Shabnam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 01:01:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not a plant rather a plan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not a plant rather a plan</p>
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		<title>By: Shabnam</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/01/bush-plan-eliminated-obstacle-to-gaza-assault/#comment-35554</link>
		<dc:creator>Shabnam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 00:59:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is a RUMER that the Zionist mass murderers have a plant to keep the water resources and transfer about, probably, ten percent of Stolen Palestine to Egypt and Jordan, 5 percent each.  This is the first time I have heart about such NONSENSE.  This has been Palestinian land for past, at least, 21 centuries where Palestinians have continually lived on their land.  The fu**ing Zionists, thieves and terrorists, must get out of our region as soon as possible and go to those places where they came from.  Down with Zionism and its supporters.
http://www.alarabiya.net/articles/2009/01/06/63604.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a RUMER that the Zionist mass murderers have a plant to keep the water resources and transfer about, probably, ten percent of Stolen Palestine to Egypt and Jordan, 5 percent each.  This is the first time I have heart about such NONSENSE.  This has been Palestinian land for past, at least, 21 centuries where Palestinians have continually lived on their land.  The fu**ing Zionists, thieves and terrorists, must get out of our region as soon as possible and go to those places where they came from.  Down with Zionism and its supporters.<br />
<a href="http://www.alarabiya.net/articles/2009/01/06/63604.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.alarabiya.net/articles/2009/01/06/63604.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: bozh</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/01/bush-plan-eliminated-obstacle-to-gaza-assault/#comment-35535</link>
		<dc:creator>bozh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 22:44:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>while the palestinian leadership is divided about how to deal with quartet ( all evil empires) and israel, i do not expect mass of palestinians to be divided about the major issue; that of having a viable state of their own.

we can recall that when clinton in &#039;01 offered palestinians some shards comprising about, i&#039;m not sure now, about 14%  of the remnants of palestine, fatah headed by arafat had rejected it.

then an obvious question arises?  if fatah is a traitor now , why is not US now offeering them a new deal?
in view that  the new fatah is a different group and presumably willing to settle  for less than what arafat rejected, a lesser offer wld have been made by now.

and abbas being an ally of  the qurtet/israel, wld pocket the money and sell out?
so why is bush scared to proffer his version of how large palestine will be?  it does seem then, bush or US is unwilling to make an offer because US knows it wld be rejected.

another question arises, What does fatah know or hope for, that we nor hamas know or hope for? 

one thing is sure, there are almost as many palestinians as  &#039;jews&#039;  in expalestine.  add to that a significant fact that  &#039;jews&#039;  aren&#039;t a people but a mixures of many colors and voelken, and  &#039;jewish&#039;  situation appears much shakiewr.

we got people, said once  arafat. palestinians, after losing some 5-600 people, will just make more babies and better fighters.
killing palestinians seems to be of little  or no strategic value. israel is far away from its final  goal.
the telos appears to be  at least all of palestine. to do that they must oust all palestine.
so oil is the master here. many lands wld not permit expulsiom because it may geopardize oil flow. thnx</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>while the palestinian leadership is divided about how to deal with quartet ( all evil empires) and israel, i do not expect mass of palestinians to be divided about the major issue; that of having a viable state of their own.</p>
<p>we can recall that when clinton in &#8216;01 offered palestinians some shards comprising about, i&#8217;m not sure now, about 14%  of the remnants of palestine, fatah headed by arafat had rejected it.</p>
<p>then an obvious question arises?  if fatah is a traitor now , why is not US now offeering them a new deal?<br />
in view that  the new fatah is a different group and presumably willing to settle  for less than what arafat rejected, a lesser offer wld have been made by now.</p>
<p>and abbas being an ally of  the qurtet/israel, wld pocket the money and sell out?<br />
so why is bush scared to proffer his version of how large palestine will be?  it does seem then, bush or US is unwilling to make an offer because US knows it wld be rejected.</p>
<p>another question arises, What does fatah know or hope for, that we nor hamas know or hope for? </p>
<p>one thing is sure, there are almost as many palestinians as  &#8216;jews&#8217;  in expalestine.  add to that a significant fact that  &#8216;jews&#8217;  aren&#8217;t a people but a mixures of many colors and voelken, and  &#8216;jewish&#8217;  situation appears much shakiewr.</p>
<p>we got people, said once  arafat. palestinians, after losing some 5-600 people, will just make more babies and better fighters.<br />
killing palestinians seems to be of little  or no strategic value. israel is far away from its final  goal.<br />
the telos appears to be  at least all of palestine. to do that they must oust all palestine.<br />
so oil is the master here. many lands wld not permit expulsiom because it may geopardize oil flow. thnx</p>
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		<title>By: Gary Corseri</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/01/bush-plan-eliminated-obstacle-to-gaza-assault/#comment-35533</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary Corseri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 21:22:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At last, we get some clarity about the machinations behind the scenes—the political intrigues, war-gaming, sinister double-dealing and betrayals now bringing forth this holocaust in Gaza.

Thanks to Gareth Porter for first-rate reporting that uncovers facts and unveils motives!  It is really an old story: Several US administrations have complied with the Zionist project—Ariel Sharon’s, Bibi Netanyahu’s, Menachem Begin’s, et. al.—to create “facts on the ground,” while dismantling Palestine, establishing “Israeli settlements,” and eliminating any effective resistance to Zionist aggression.  

Negating the results of Hamas’s victory in the &#039;07 election—judged by many international observers to be more fair than recent US elections!—should surprise no one familiar with US policy stretching back to Vietnam, the Cold War, and even before.  We have made an art form of creating puppet regimes which squawk about anti-Communism (then) and anti-Terrorism (now), establish a façade of “free elections” and “free trade”—and which then invite international bankers and financiers to “manage” the economy, abetted by US armed forces or armaments and &quot;training&quot; to “manage” the restive natives.

In Palestine, the game has been, once again, divide and conquer.  Mislead, lie and betray.  Blame the victim.  Divide Hamas and Fatah so that the Zionist entity could conquer both Gaza and the West Bank.  Mislead with Oslo Accords and scores of other UN resolutions and various agreements promising a “two-state solution,” or “peace”—and then sabotaging the process as the long-sought goal for which all sensible, decent people—Palestinians, Muslims, Jews and non-Jews—yearned did seem, at last, to draw near.  

Should we be surprised that the US was arming Fatah death squads led by Dahlan?  Didn’t we embrace these tactics when we covertly and overtly embraced paramilitary death squads in El Salvador, Nicaragua and Guatemala?  Didn’t the Brits employ such tactics when they supported one faction of the I.R.A. over another?  When we annexed Hawaii, didn’t we find willing collaborators to defraud their own people for a buck, for power, to be on the winning side—whatever?

This has been a sordid tale of colonization.  It stretches back over the centuries and it reflects miserably on all who have profitted from it and on those who have been complicit in it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At last, we get some clarity about the machinations behind the scenes—the political intrigues, war-gaming, sinister double-dealing and betrayals now bringing forth this holocaust in Gaza.</p>
<p>Thanks to Gareth Porter for first-rate reporting that uncovers facts and unveils motives!  It is really an old story: Several US administrations have complied with the Zionist project—Ariel Sharon’s, Bibi Netanyahu’s, Menachem Begin’s, et. al.—to create “facts on the ground,” while dismantling Palestine, establishing “Israeli settlements,” and eliminating any effective resistance to Zionist aggression.  </p>
<p>Negating the results of Hamas’s victory in the &#8216;07 election—judged by many international observers to be more fair than recent US elections!—should surprise no one familiar with US policy stretching back to Vietnam, the Cold War, and even before.  We have made an art form of creating puppet regimes which squawk about anti-Communism (then) and anti-Terrorism (now), establish a façade of “free elections” and “free trade”—and which then invite international bankers and financiers to “manage” the economy, abetted by US armed forces or armaments and &#8220;training&#8221; to “manage” the restive natives.</p>
<p>In Palestine, the game has been, once again, divide and conquer.  Mislead, lie and betray.  Blame the victim.  Divide Hamas and Fatah so that the Zionist entity could conquer both Gaza and the West Bank.  Mislead with Oslo Accords and scores of other UN resolutions and various agreements promising a “two-state solution,” or “peace”—and then sabotaging the process as the long-sought goal for which all sensible, decent people—Palestinians, Muslims, Jews and non-Jews—yearned did seem, at last, to draw near.  </p>
<p>Should we be surprised that the US was arming Fatah death squads led by Dahlan?  Didn’t we embrace these tactics when we covertly and overtly embraced paramilitary death squads in El Salvador, Nicaragua and Guatemala?  Didn’t the Brits employ such tactics when they supported one faction of the I.R.A. over another?  When we annexed Hawaii, didn’t we find willing collaborators to defraud their own people for a buck, for power, to be on the winning side—whatever?</p>
<p>This has been a sordid tale of colonization.  It stretches back over the centuries and it reflects miserably on all who have profitted from it and on those who have been complicit in it.</p>
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