Comments on: Actually, “It’s the System, Stupid” http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/01/actually-%e2%80%9cits-the-system-stupid%e2%80%9d/ a radical newsletter in the struggle for peace and social justice Thu, 08 Dec 2011 15:07:30 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: mallensr1 http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/01/actually-%e2%80%9cits-the-system-stupid%e2%80%9d/#comment-39249 mallensr1 Sat, 21 Feb 2009 18:39:52 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=5848#comment-39249 Ron Paul is not an ignorant peice of trash,and we would all be better off if he were the Pres. And the person that said he is trash is a moron or working for the new world order. Ron Paul is not an ignorant peice of trash,and we would all be better off if he were the Pres. And the person that said he is trash is a moron or working for the new world order.

]]> By: The Angry Peasant http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/01/actually-%e2%80%9cits-the-system-stupid%e2%80%9d/#comment-35589 The Angry Peasant Wed, 07 Jan 2009 05:44:16 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=5848#comment-35589 I don't know...I've listened to Ron Paul enough...Yes, he's conservative (in the actual sense of the word, not the warped moniker monsters like Nixon and Cheney adopted). But he is against furthering the imperialist U.S. agenda. He's an isolationist. He wants to live by the constitution. He wants good diplomatic relations with the rest of the world. He wants to abolish the Federal Reserve, the privatized bank that rules over us all. Listen to his dedication to this cause.This is definitely no racist elitist we're talking about here. Go to YouTube and listen to interviews with him. Watch him at the Republican debates, which FOX later censored because he was speaking the truth too much. I mean, the guy is vehemently against all kinds of things we agree on. Frankly, I don't care if he believes in God or is against abortion. His head and heart are definitely in the right place. I don’t know…I’ve listened to Ron Paul enough…Yes, he’s conservative (in the actual sense of the word, not the warped moniker monsters like Nixon and Cheney adopted). But he is against furthering the imperialist U.S. agenda. He’s an isolationist. He wants to live by the constitution. He wants good diplomatic relations with the rest of the world. He wants to abolish the Federal Reserve, the privatized bank that rules over us all. Listen to his dedication to this cause.This is definitely no racist elitist we’re talking about here. Go to YouTube and listen to interviews with him. Watch him at the Republican debates, which FOX later censored because he was speaking the truth too much. I mean, the guy is vehemently against all kinds of things we agree on. Frankly, I don’t care if he believes in God or is against abortion. His head and heart are definitely in the right place.

]]> By: lichen http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/01/actually-%e2%80%9cits-the-system-stupid%e2%80%9d/#comment-35583 lichen Wed, 07 Jan 2009 04:58:09 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=5848#comment-35583 Yes, we are, but he pledges, if given the power, to up the ante and make it all so much worse, to wipe out the last particles won by the labor movement over the past century and blast us back into fuedalism; he claims to be anti-war, but clearly fights for the rich to win the US class war completely. Yes, we are, but he pledges, if given the power, to up the ante and make it all so much worse, to wipe out the last particles won by the labor movement over the past century and blast us back into fuedalism; he claims to be anti-war, but clearly fights for the rich to win the US class war completely.

]]> By: The Angry Peasant http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/01/actually-%e2%80%9cits-the-system-stupid%e2%80%9d/#comment-35580 The Angry Peasant Wed, 07 Jan 2009 04:46:15 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=5848#comment-35580 Lichen' What do you mean, he "would create?" He wouldn't have to; we already ARE a poverty-ridden, overtly violent, minority-oppressing, corporatist society! Lichen’

What do you mean, he “would create?” He wouldn’t have to; we already ARE a poverty-ridden, overtly violent, minority-oppressing, corporatist society!

]]> By: lichen http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/01/actually-%e2%80%9cits-the-system-stupid%e2%80%9d/#comment-35577 lichen Wed, 07 Jan 2009 04:35:01 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=5848#comment-35577 ron paul, an ignorant peice of trash who supports mass privitizations of schools, national parks, libraries, medical care, and everything else; who calls for eliminating the minimum wage, who wants to repeal all gun control laws, is against abortion, gay rights, and believes that the founding fathers had a nation in mind centered around the church as the primary social institution; ron paul, a scumbag who would create mass poverty and an overtly violent, minority-oppressing, corporatist society. ron paul, an ignorant peice of trash who supports mass privitizations of schools, national parks, libraries, medical care, and everything else; who calls for eliminating the minimum wage, who wants to repeal all gun control laws, is against abortion, gay rights, and believes that the founding fathers had a nation in mind centered around the church as the primary social institution; ron paul, a scumbag who would create mass poverty and an overtly violent, minority-oppressing, corporatist society.

]]> By: The Angry Peasant http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/01/actually-%e2%80%9cits-the-system-stupid%e2%80%9d/#comment-35574 The Angry Peasant Wed, 07 Jan 2009 03:54:02 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=5848#comment-35574 If we lose the internet; the last bastion of free speech and uncensored information in America an the world...I will personally storm the White House myself! If we lose the internet; the last bastion of free speech and uncensored information in America an the world…I will personally storm the White House myself!

]]> By: giorgio http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/01/actually-%e2%80%9cits-the-system-stupid%e2%80%9d/#comment-35503 giorgio Tue, 06 Jan 2009 08:34:13 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=5848#comment-35503 Ron Paul, who advocates less gov interference, end this obscene Empire, shut down the Fed which is a private enterprise headed by the Rothschilds can't be all that bad. In fact he's one of the few congressmen with integrity and incorruptible by corporate interests. He's dead against the Patriot Act, IDs and censorship of the internet, which by the way sounds as if it's coming...so meantime enjoy the net while it's still 'free' but not for long.... Ron Paul, who advocates less gov interference, end this obscene Empire, shut down the Fed which is a private enterprise headed by the Rothschilds can’t be all that bad. In fact he’s one of the few congressmen with integrity and incorruptible by corporate interests.
He’s dead against the Patriot Act, IDs and censorship of the internet, which by the way sounds as if it’s coming…so meantime enjoy the net while it’s still ‘free’ but not for long….

]]> By: The Angry Peasant http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/01/actually-%e2%80%9cits-the-system-stupid%e2%80%9d/#comment-35485 The Angry Peasant Tue, 06 Jan 2009 03:05:35 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=5848#comment-35485 Ron Paul, Yes, it's the system, but there's nothingwrongwith hating the evil bastards who keep it going, make it so much worse, and revel in it. In fact, hatred's too good for them. Ron Paul,
Yes, it’s the system, but there’s nothingwrongwith hating the evil bastards who keep it going, make it so much worse, and revel in it. In fact, hatred’s too good for them.

]]> By: Brian http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/01/actually-%e2%80%9cits-the-system-stupid%e2%80%9d/#comment-35481 Brian Tue, 06 Jan 2009 01:08:58 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=5848#comment-35481 Superb! And why would the professor want to become an advisor to a politician who espouses the very philosophy that got us into this mess? Superb!

And why would the professor want to become an advisor to a politician who espouses the very philosophy that got us into this mess?

]]> By: joed http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/01/actually-%e2%80%9cits-the-system-stupid%e2%80%9d/#comment-35443 joed Mon, 05 Jan 2009 20:58:11 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=5848#comment-35443 that should be; you guys THOUGHT TALKING would change things--no wonder you lost. that should be; you guys THOUGHT TALKING would change things–no wonder you lost.

]]> By: joed http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/01/actually-%e2%80%9cits-the-system-stupid%e2%80%9d/#comment-35432 joed Mon, 05 Jan 2009 19:43:38 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=5848#comment-35432 when grover norquist said he was going to shrink the govt and then drownd it he wasn't joking. he killed the economy along with the govt. the plan worked much better than he though it would. the commonwealth of amerika is now in the hands of very very few people. the govt is nothing more than military, police and political thugs, and there is no going back. the bad guys won and you guys lost! you guys though taking would change things--no wonder you lost. when grover norquist said he was going to shrink the govt and then drownd it he wasn’t joking. he killed the economy along with the govt.
the plan worked much better than he though it would. the commonwealth of amerika is now in the hands of very very few people. the govt is nothing more than military, police and political thugs, and there is no going back. the bad guys won and you guys lost! you guys though taking would change things–no wonder you lost.

]]> By: Don Hawkins http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/01/actually-%e2%80%9cits-the-system-stupid%e2%80%9d/#comment-35427 Don Hawkins Mon, 05 Jan 2009 19:17:35 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=5848#comment-35427 Papua New Guinea declared a national disaster in early December after heavy sea swells forced tens of thousands of people - close to half the population of its northern Manus province - from their homes. Elsewhere in the Pacific, islands states are seeking to buy land in other countries for the permanent relocation of communities forced out by intrusion of the sea. "It's another consequence of global warming," says Baddour. "The problem is really there, it's really there now." "The problem is really there, it's really there now." A new system is needed a new way of thinking. Papua New Guinea declared a national disaster in early December after heavy sea swells forced tens of thousands of people – close to half the population of its northern Manus province – from their homes. Elsewhere in the Pacific, islands states are seeking to buy land in other countries for the permanent relocation of communities forced out by intrusion of the sea.

“It’s another consequence of global warming,” says Baddour. “The problem is really there, it’s really there now.”

“The problem is really there, it’s really there now.” A new system is needed a new way of thinking.

]]> By: giorgio http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/01/actually-%e2%80%9cits-the-system-stupid%e2%80%9d/#comment-35424 giorgio Mon, 05 Jan 2009 19:11:14 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=5848#comment-35424 AND join Ron Paul's REVOLUTION for LIBERTY? AND join Ron Paul’s REVOLUTION for LIBERTY?

]]> By: giorgio http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/01/actually-%e2%80%9cits-the-system-stupid%e2%80%9d/#comment-35421 giorgio Mon, 05 Jan 2009 19:04:47 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=5848#comment-35421 Now here is a gem in commonsense: "One possible systemic change eliminates capitalist class conflict by reorganizing enterprises to position productive workers as their own collective board of directors, thereby removing one key cause of capitalist instability." Professor Rick Wolff, why don't you become Ron Paul's economic (or one of) advisor? Now here is a gem in commonsense:

“One possible systemic change eliminates capitalist class conflict by reorganizing enterprises to position productive workers as their own collective board of directors, thereby removing one key cause of capitalist instability.”

Professor Rick Wolff, why don’t you become Ron Paul’s economic (or one of) advisor?

]]> By: Ron Horn http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/01/actually-%e2%80%9cits-the-system-stupid%e2%80%9d/#comment-35414 Ron Horn Mon, 05 Jan 2009 18:51:35 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=5848#comment-35414 Very well put, Rick Wolff. I would only elaborate that American capitalists took the wealth created by working people, and since the 1980s discovered increasingly that they could make even more money by moving their factories abroad where labor was cheap, where pro-labor and environmental protection laws were weak, where it was easy to corrupt local officials, etc, etc. As a result we are left with a service economy where we serve each other coffee, take in each other's laundry, etc., with little to offer the rest of the world (except military weapons). Its clear that these bastard's only concern is their own wealth accumulation--the American society be damned! As the great Wall Street guru, Warren Buffet, put it, "There’s class warfare, all right, but it’s my class that’s winning." I try really hard not to hate these people, and try to stay focused on the system. Because it is the latter that causes many weak people with sociopathic tendencies to succumb to the temptations of wealth and power. So, let us all go to our windows, lean out and shout, "it's the economic system, stupid, and I'm not going to take it anymore! Very well put, Rick Wolff. I would only elaborate that American capitalists took the wealth created by working people, and since the 1980s discovered increasingly that they could make even more money by moving their factories abroad where labor was cheap, where pro-labor and environmental protection laws were weak, where it was easy to corrupt local officials, etc, etc. As a result we are left with a service economy where we serve each other coffee, take in each other’s laundry, etc., with little to offer the rest of the world (except military weapons). Its clear that these bastard’s only concern is their own wealth accumulation–the American society be damned! As the great Wall Street guru, Warren Buffet, put it, “There’s class warfare, all right, but it’s my class that’s winning.” I try really hard not to hate these people, and try to stay focused on the system. Because it is the latter that causes many weak people with sociopathic tendencies to succumb to the temptations of wealth and power.

So, let us all go to our windows, lean out and shout, “it’s the economic system, stupid, and I’m not going to take it anymore!

]]> By: Don Hawkins http://dissidentvoice.org/2009/01/actually-%e2%80%9cits-the-system-stupid%e2%80%9d/#comment-35379 Don Hawkins Mon, 05 Jan 2009 16:03:51 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=5848#comment-35379 The present system is not sustainable that's just the way the cookie crumbles. In our case human's the way civilization crumbles. Think of it as down the drain in slow motion. Down the drain in slow motion I forget who said that but explains a lot. Say the stuff people learn at Harvard Business School well much can be thrown out the window that is if human's wish to survive. Next! Oh, and think of this as kind of a war. The present system is not sustainable that’s just the way the cookie crumbles. In our case human’s the way civilization crumbles. Think of it as down the drain in slow motion. Down the drain in slow motion I forget who said that but explains a lot. Say the stuff people learn at Harvard Business School well much can be thrown out the window that is if human’s wish to survive. Next! Oh, and think of this as kind of a war.

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