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		<title>By: Ramsefall</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/12/every-trick-in-the-book/#comment-33085</link>
		<dc:creator>Ramsefall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 01:38:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suppose the main discrepancy I see with your well-intentioned suggestion, Don, is that if other administrations along with the current one have been shocked by findings presented by the NAS, and then set out to do exactly the opposite of what is needed, why would the next President respond any differently? 

While abundant solutions have been available for years, a committed shift toward implementation of those technologies/solutions threatens many of the entities with controlling interest of the Establishment. Advanced non-petroleum-based technologies threaten the petroleum industry on which the industrialized world, especially our corner, is dependent. The topic can&#039;t really even be addressed publicly as you&#039;ve noticed in past elections or the media, and thus it won&#039;t change at those hands. Of course the pink elephant in the room is the unprecedented profit already reaped by the cartel heads keeping things the way they are since anthropocentric environmental damage warnings began surfacing decades ago. As such, expecting any president to heed the results of the scientific community is far fetched, from how I see things at least.

I think a more practical and active solution is for people to start making their own changes to whatever extent they can; boycotting petro to whatever extent you can through alternatives like hybrids, bicycle, public transport depending on where you live, carpool, etc; the semi-affordable use of solar panels to get you off the grid, or stay on and sell back your excess; wind power couples very efficiently with solar, regional dependent of course; conservation at home, heat pumps and energy efficient furnaces and bulbs, insulation, you could probably come up with more. When your neighbors see you doing it, provided they didn&#039;t just loose their house or job, and realize the benefits and liberation in that, it could become infectious. 

But who knows, I never claimed to bat .400 or shoot par.

Best to you, Don.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suppose the main discrepancy I see with your well-intentioned suggestion, Don, is that if other administrations along with the current one have been shocked by findings presented by the NAS, and then set out to do exactly the opposite of what is needed, why would the next President respond any differently? </p>
<p>While abundant solutions have been available for years, a committed shift toward implementation of those technologies/solutions threatens many of the entities with controlling interest of the Establishment. Advanced non-petroleum-based technologies threaten the petroleum industry on which the industrialized world, especially our corner, is dependent. The topic can&#8217;t really even be addressed publicly as you&#8217;ve noticed in past elections or the media, and thus it won&#8217;t change at those hands. Of course the pink elephant in the room is the unprecedented profit already reaped by the cartel heads keeping things the way they are since anthropocentric environmental damage warnings began surfacing decades ago. As such, expecting any president to heed the results of the scientific community is far fetched, from how I see things at least.</p>
<p>I think a more practical and active solution is for people to start making their own changes to whatever extent they can; boycotting petro to whatever extent you can through alternatives like hybrids, bicycle, public transport depending on where you live, carpool, etc; the semi-affordable use of solar panels to get you off the grid, or stay on and sell back your excess; wind power couples very efficiently with solar, regional dependent of course; conservation at home, heat pumps and energy efficient furnaces and bulbs, insulation, you could probably come up with more. When your neighbors see you doing it, provided they didn&#8217;t just loose their house or job, and realize the benefits and liberation in that, it could become infectious. </p>
<p>But who knows, I never claimed to bat .400 or shoot par.</p>
<p>Best to you, Don.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Hawkins</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/12/every-trick-in-the-book/#comment-33079</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Hawkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 00:26:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh that was James Hansen who wrote that.  I put a lot of his stuff as he is one of the smartest people on the Planet and tuff, gut&#039;s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh that was James Hansen who wrote that.  I put a lot of his stuff as he is one of the smartest people on the Planet and tuff, gut&#8217;s.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Hawkins</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/12/every-trick-in-the-book/#comment-33078</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Hawkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 00:23:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is one suggestion: the next President should ask the National Academy of Sciences to provide him a prompt assessment of the situation. After all, Abraham Lincoln established our Academy for just such purpose. Interestingly, at the beginning of the current administration, in early 2001, the President asked the Academy for a (albeit limited) assessment of global warming, apparently under the belief that the Academy would be critical of the most recent report of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change. Well, the Academy’s report did have some criticisms, but, with clarity and authority, it reiterated the reality of global warming, the predominant role of humans in causing the warming, and the need for a policy response to minimize climate problems. The administration was apparently so taken aback that they never asked the Academy again for any broad advice on the topic. It does not do much good to cry over that tragedy – now is the time to figure out the best way forward from this point.  That&#039;s The  National Academy of Sciences and fast would be good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is one suggestion: the next President should ask the National Academy of Sciences to provide him a prompt assessment of the situation. After all, Abraham Lincoln established our Academy for just such purpose. Interestingly, at the beginning of the current administration, in early 2001, the President asked the Academy for a (albeit limited) assessment of global warming, apparently under the belief that the Academy would be critical of the most recent report of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change. Well, the Academy’s report did have some criticisms, but, with clarity and authority, it reiterated the reality of global warming, the predominant role of humans in causing the warming, and the need for a policy response to minimize climate problems. The administration was apparently so taken aback that they never asked the Academy again for any broad advice on the topic. It does not do much good to cry over that tragedy – now is the time to figure out the best way forward from this point.  That&#8217;s The  National Academy of Sciences and fast would be good.</p>
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		<title>By: Ramsefall</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/12/every-trick-in-the-book/#comment-33063</link>
		<dc:creator>Ramsefall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 20:47:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DavidG and Don,

if stewardship of the Earth and love for ourselves were the priorities, we simply wouldn&#039;t live in such a system based on money that excludes the masses from attaining the resources they need to survive. There are alternatives to resource allocation and the intelligently sustained management thereof for future generations. 

Humanity though, has been in the eternal process of subjugation to powers strictly guided by their egos who realized long ago the ease of maintaining their power more effectively through the use of a controlled monetary system. But as David indicates, any solution which is not profitable is not going to be implemented. No profit, no priority.

Best to all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DavidG and Don,</p>
<p>if stewardship of the Earth and love for ourselves were the priorities, we simply wouldn&#8217;t live in such a system based on money that excludes the masses from attaining the resources they need to survive. There are alternatives to resource allocation and the intelligently sustained management thereof for future generations. </p>
<p>Humanity though, has been in the eternal process of subjugation to powers strictly guided by their egos who realized long ago the ease of maintaining their power more effectively through the use of a controlled monetary system. But as David indicates, any solution which is not profitable is not going to be implemented. No profit, no priority.</p>
<p>Best to all.</p>
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		<title>By: DavidG.</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/12/every-trick-in-the-book/#comment-33060</link>
		<dc:creator>DavidG.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 20:33:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But Don, war makes money, lots of it. Peace doesn&#039;t!

If we could get rid of the evil concept of capitalism, then peace might stand a chance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But Don, war makes money, lots of it. Peace doesn&#8217;t!</p>
<p>If we could get rid of the evil concept of capitalism, then peace might stand a chance.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Hawkins</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/12/every-trick-in-the-book/#comment-33056</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Hawkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 19:57:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One point that could gainfully be factored in, but is left out in the cold, by scientists, researchers and policy makers, is the influence peace can have in bringing down global warming. 

Just imagine all the resources consumed in developing, maintaining and transporting the astronomical quantities of all kinds of arms and ammunition around the world. And all that is consumed in the upkeep of the personnel of the forces across the globe. 

Also take into account the resource consumption in the transport of personnel, ships and air force jets. Then, personnel in inhospitable climates and terrains, as in biting cold temperatures and where habitation is very sparse, would depend on burning fossil fuel. What is the impact of all this on global warming and thereby on climate change? Wouldn’t the figures of all these components be mind boggling? 

In noted economist Paul Samuelson’s terminology it is the allocation of an economy’s scarce resources between “guns and butter”. More guns means less butter. All because of the threat of war. And what happens to the environment? All the wasteful resource consumption to fight the threat of war accentuates global warming. 

Wouldn’t we be better off with peace, goodwill and cordial relations between nations and checking global warming? Peace is eco-friendly. In the words of Ralph Waldo Emerson: “The real and lasting victories are those of peace, and not of war.”   N Kalyani, ET Bureau
  
 He wanted to be President and anything but boring is one way of looking at it.   Use the knowledge and that gift of gab.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One point that could gainfully be factored in, but is left out in the cold, by scientists, researchers and policy makers, is the influence peace can have in bringing down global warming. </p>
<p>Just imagine all the resources consumed in developing, maintaining and transporting the astronomical quantities of all kinds of arms and ammunition around the world. And all that is consumed in the upkeep of the personnel of the forces across the globe. </p>
<p>Also take into account the resource consumption in the transport of personnel, ships and air force jets. Then, personnel in inhospitable climates and terrains, as in biting cold temperatures and where habitation is very sparse, would depend on burning fossil fuel. What is the impact of all this on global warming and thereby on climate change? Wouldn’t the figures of all these components be mind boggling? </p>
<p>In noted economist Paul Samuelson’s terminology it is the allocation of an economy’s scarce resources between “guns and butter”. More guns means less butter. All because of the threat of war. And what happens to the environment? All the wasteful resource consumption to fight the threat of war accentuates global warming. </p>
<p>Wouldn’t we be better off with peace, goodwill and cordial relations between nations and checking global warming? Peace is eco-friendly. In the words of Ralph Waldo Emerson: “The real and lasting victories are those of peace, and not of war.”   N Kalyani, ET Bureau</p>
<p> He wanted to be President and anything but boring is one way of looking at it.   Use the knowledge and that gift of gab.</p>
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		<title>By: Ramsefall</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/12/every-trick-in-the-book/#comment-33055</link>
		<dc:creator>Ramsefall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 19:38:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Giorgio,

your second guess is correct, they just print it out of thin air essentially. Since the dollar had the gold standard removed under Nixon, what capitalism revolves around now are pieces of paper with dead presidents faces, denominations and occult symbolism reflective of their plutocratic hegemony and elite vow of silence. 

They can&#039;t tweak the system so the people don&#039;t pay interest on debt, because debt is what obligates prisoners of society to go get a crumby job and keep the cycle in motion. If there was no debt, nobody would need a job and their system would collapse.

As for money printing, the more they print, the less it is worth and concurrently the debt rises proportionally. Anymore the majority is all electronic, even more worthless. While being very real, it&#039;s also very illusory.

Best to you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Giorgio,</p>
<p>your second guess is correct, they just print it out of thin air essentially. Since the dollar had the gold standard removed under Nixon, what capitalism revolves around now are pieces of paper with dead presidents faces, denominations and occult symbolism reflective of their plutocratic hegemony and elite vow of silence. </p>
<p>They can&#8217;t tweak the system so the people don&#8217;t pay interest on debt, because debt is what obligates prisoners of society to go get a crumby job and keep the cycle in motion. If there was no debt, nobody would need a job and their system would collapse.</p>
<p>As for money printing, the more they print, the less it is worth and concurrently the debt rises proportionally. Anymore the majority is all electronic, even more worthless. While being very real, it&#8217;s also very illusory.</p>
<p>Best to you.</p>
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		<title>By: Giorgio</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/12/every-trick-in-the-book/#comment-33053</link>
		<dc:creator>Giorgio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 19:07:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My question is where does the Fed get all those $Trillion dollars from?
From the banksters Rothschilds and Co. with shyster Shylock&#039;s interest added on ?  OR as Ron Paul puts it neatly: printing dollars out of thin air?
Then why doesn&#039;t the Fed make it simple: provide mini-printing machines to every American household so that they can print their own dollars to their heart&#039;s content, go on a spending spree and make this Xmas season the greatest success ever ....
Bernanke! Use the sludge between your ears, Stupid! 
Make it simple so that Americans won&#039;t have to pay interest to a cabal banksters like the Rothschilds....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My question is where does the Fed get all those $Trillion dollars from?<br />
From the banksters Rothschilds and Co. with shyster Shylock&#8217;s interest added on ?  OR as Ron Paul puts it neatly: printing dollars out of thin air?<br />
Then why doesn&#8217;t the Fed make it simple: provide mini-printing machines to every American household so that they can print their own dollars to their heart&#8217;s content, go on a spending spree and make this Xmas season the greatest success ever &#8230;.<br />
Bernanke! Use the sludge between your ears, Stupid!<br />
Make it simple so that Americans won&#8217;t have to pay interest to a cabal banksters like the Rothschilds&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Hawkins</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/12/every-trick-in-the-book/#comment-33050</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Hawkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 18:39:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tax and 100% dividend. A “carbon tax with 100 percent dividend” is required for
reversing the growth of atmospheric CO2. The tax, applied to oil, gas and coal at the mine or
port of entry, is the fairest and most effective way to reduce emissions and transition to the
post fossil fuel era. It would assure that unconventional fossil fuels, such as tar shale and tar
sands, stay in the ground, unless an economic method of capturing the CO2 is developed.
The entire tax should be returned to the public, equal shares on a per capita basis (half
shares for children up to a maximum of two child-shares per family), deposited monthly in
bank accounts. No bureaucracy is needed.
A tax should be called a tax. The public can understand this and will accept a tax if it is
clearly explained and if 100 percent of the money is returned to the public. Not one dime
should go to Washington for politicians to pick winners. No lobbyists need be employed.
The public will take steps to reduce their emissions because they will continually be
reminded of the matter by the monthly dividend and by rising fossil fuel costs. It must be
clearly explained to the public that the tax rate will continue to increase in the future.  Hansen

Our focus should be on creating a system that is sustainable, which means that the needs of workers should take precedent over those of Wall Street.  Tell me that Hansen is wrong and not only the needs of the workers take precedent but the workers family as well.  This is a new way of thinking and yes only part of creating a new system but a big part. The time is now.  President Obama do you read DV I sure hope you do use the knowledge there are many great minds out there who will help you use the knowledge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tax and 100% dividend. A “carbon tax with 100 percent dividend” is required for<br />
reversing the growth of atmospheric CO2. The tax, applied to oil, gas and coal at the mine or<br />
port of entry, is the fairest and most effective way to reduce emissions and transition to the<br />
post fossil fuel era. It would assure that unconventional fossil fuels, such as tar shale and tar<br />
sands, stay in the ground, unless an economic method of capturing the CO2 is developed.<br />
The entire tax should be returned to the public, equal shares on a per capita basis (half<br />
shares for children up to a maximum of two child-shares per family), deposited monthly in<br />
bank accounts. No bureaucracy is needed.<br />
A tax should be called a tax. The public can understand this and will accept a tax if it is<br />
clearly explained and if 100 percent of the money is returned to the public. Not one dime<br />
should go to Washington for politicians to pick winners. No lobbyists need be employed.<br />
The public will take steps to reduce their emissions because they will continually be<br />
reminded of the matter by the monthly dividend and by rising fossil fuel costs. It must be<br />
clearly explained to the public that the tax rate will continue to increase in the future.  Hansen</p>
<p>Our focus should be on creating a system that is sustainable, which means that the needs of workers should take precedent over those of Wall Street.  Tell me that Hansen is wrong and not only the needs of the workers take precedent but the workers family as well.  This is a new way of thinking and yes only part of creating a new system but a big part. The time is now.  President Obama do you read DV I sure hope you do use the knowledge there are many great minds out there who will help you use the knowledge.</p>
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		<title>By: Ramsefall</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/12/every-trick-in-the-book/#comment-33042</link>
		<dc:creator>Ramsefall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 17:34:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Workers have been neglected along with their wages for decades or longer, but wage stagnation is beneficial for profit, and that is their primary concern.

With all this Fed backing, what&#039;ll be done when the Fed goes belly up? Print more money and completely devalue the dollar? These reckless and self-promoting, unregulated measures with no transparency will come at a heavy price. By buying up all the junk bonds and mortgage-backed securities, they&#039;re shooting off the nation&#039;s feet. Who&#039;ll be able to run from the building when it goes up in flames?

Thanks Mike.

Best to you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Workers have been neglected along with their wages for decades or longer, but wage stagnation is beneficial for profit, and that is their primary concern.</p>
<p>With all this Fed backing, what&#8217;ll be done when the Fed goes belly up? Print more money and completely devalue the dollar? These reckless and self-promoting, unregulated measures with no transparency will come at a heavy price. By buying up all the junk bonds and mortgage-backed securities, they&#8217;re shooting off the nation&#8217;s feet. Who&#8217;ll be able to run from the building when it goes up in flames?</p>
<p>Thanks Mike.</p>
<p>Best to you.</p>
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