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	<title>Comments on: Barack Obama on Israel’s Siege of Gaza</title>
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		<title>By: icon</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/12/barack-obama-on-israel%e2%80%99s-siege-of-gaza/#comment-35479</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 00:47:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello friends. Read this if you have time. It is a thorough analysis of the socio-political scene around the continuing systemic and elites&#039; crimes, part of which is the Israeli attack in Gaza:

http://www.inclusivedemocracy.org/journal/vol5/vol5_no2_takis_crime_of_zionsts.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello friends. Read this if you have time. It is a thorough analysis of the socio-political scene around the continuing systemic and elites&#8217; crimes, part of which is the Israeli attack in Gaza:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.inclusivedemocracy.org/journal/vol5/vol5_no2_takis_crime_of_zionsts.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.inclusivedemocracy.org/journal/vol5/vol5_no2_takis_crime_of_zionsts.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Michael Hureaux</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/12/barack-obama-on-israel%e2%80%99s-siege-of-gaza/#comment-34789</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Hureaux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 17:59:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The attacks on the Dignity are reprehensible, and the silence - compared to the media hype that greeted the &quot;pirating&quot; of an oil tanker a  few weeks ago- even more so.  I don&#039;t want to seem unphased by the crime, but as anyone who&#039;s ever been associated with Lucius Walker&#039;s assistance brigades to Cuba can tell you, these bloody bastards
aren&#039;t above any level of criminality when it comes to defending what they perceive to be their turf.  Zionism is their favorite &quot;get out of jail free&quot;&#039; card, so it only stands to reason that they&#039;ll work that one with everything they have.

I think it&#039;s important to honor Cynthia McKinney&#039;s courage also.  By the same token, it&#039;s important to understand why most of her support comes from white progressives, and to generate support for the politics she represents from a less abstract perspective.  To be perfectly honest, I still don&#039;t see much evidence of engagement with black community activists on much more than a theoretical level, i.e., a level of engagement that doesn&#039;t move much beyond self-confirmation.

I see a lot of speculation about the political behavior of black U.S.er&#039;s here, but most of it displays a lack of engagement or struggle with black politics on the terms the black community (to borrow a useful but exhausted generalization) frames for itself.  A recent comment about 
a needed&quot;complete&quot; analysis of the last 30 years of black struggle underscores my point.    There are only analyses that are more complete or less complete, but there are none that are complete, given the regional variables of black experience in a country this large.   

I hope you understand that I&#039;m not charging racism here.  
Part of the problem I&#039;m talking about stems from the fact that, aside from the labor movement, there really aren&#039;t many political venues  where whites and other activists of color meet on an ongoing basis.  Community politics by itself, for instance, is fragmented because of the levels of gentrification capital has imposed on cities and towns 
across the last thirty years.  Many white people I worked with on urban 
education issues in Seattle, exhausted by the vigilance of the institutionalized racism of capital reflected in the public sector, have since moved on to education privatization theories and have been co-opted thereby.  But the defense of the public sector, heavily unionized in the education profession, has always been one of the most informed and integrated dialogues between whites and people of color!  The growing loss of this venue is a tremendous setback for the democratic opposition, and many &quot;progressive&quot; anti-union people do not see this.

The problem is that if we do not defend every public venue, even at its most rudimentary level, there will never be real engagement between whites and black people, or any people of color, as to the importance of developing a mass support for a McKinney or a Nader candidacy.  As horrid as the emergence of Obama is, there will be some small defense of the public sector, which is again, one of the only arenas where progressive whites and progressive people of color will meet on an ongoing basis.  And yes, it&#039;s important for us to hold our ground, and not be tailing the more reactionary elements among our ranks during election seasons, as Max Shields reminded me a few days ago.  By the same token, it is important to engage with the labor and community organizations we have who uphold and defend the unionized 
public sector, as that is the real basis from which we will draw any racially integral progressive resistance in the future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The attacks on the Dignity are reprehensible, and the silence &#8211; compared to the media hype that greeted the &#8220;pirating&#8221; of an oil tanker a  few weeks ago- even more so.  I don&#8217;t want to seem unphased by the crime, but as anyone who&#8217;s ever been associated with Lucius Walker&#8217;s assistance brigades to Cuba can tell you, these bloody bastards<br />
aren&#8217;t above any level of criminality when it comes to defending what they perceive to be their turf.  Zionism is their favorite &#8220;get out of jail free&#8221;&#8216; card, so it only stands to reason that they&#8217;ll work that one with everything they have.</p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s important to honor Cynthia McKinney&#8217;s courage also.  By the same token, it&#8217;s important to understand why most of her support comes from white progressives, and to generate support for the politics she represents from a less abstract perspective.  To be perfectly honest, I still don&#8217;t see much evidence of engagement with black community activists on much more than a theoretical level, i.e., a level of engagement that doesn&#8217;t move much beyond self-confirmation.</p>
<p>I see a lot of speculation about the political behavior of black U.S.er&#8217;s here, but most of it displays a lack of engagement or struggle with black politics on the terms the black community (to borrow a useful but exhausted generalization) frames for itself.  A recent comment about<br />
a needed&#8221;complete&#8221; analysis of the last 30 years of black struggle underscores my point.    There are only analyses that are more complete or less complete, but there are none that are complete, given the regional variables of black experience in a country this large.   </p>
<p>I hope you understand that I&#8217;m not charging racism here.<br />
Part of the problem I&#8217;m talking about stems from the fact that, aside from the labor movement, there really aren&#8217;t many political venues  where whites and other activists of color meet on an ongoing basis.  Community politics by itself, for instance, is fragmented because of the levels of gentrification capital has imposed on cities and towns<br />
across the last thirty years.  Many white people I worked with on urban<br />
education issues in Seattle, exhausted by the vigilance of the institutionalized racism of capital reflected in the public sector, have since moved on to education privatization theories and have been co-opted thereby.  But the defense of the public sector, heavily unionized in the education profession, has always been one of the most informed and integrated dialogues between whites and people of color!  The growing loss of this venue is a tremendous setback for the democratic opposition, and many &#8220;progressive&#8221; anti-union people do not see this.</p>
<p>The problem is that if we do not defend every public venue, even at its most rudimentary level, there will never be real engagement between whites and black people, or any people of color, as to the importance of developing a mass support for a McKinney or a Nader candidacy.  As horrid as the emergence of Obama is, there will be some small defense of the public sector, which is again, one of the only arenas where progressive whites and progressive people of color will meet on an ongoing basis.  And yes, it&#8217;s important for us to hold our ground, and not be tailing the more reactionary elements among our ranks during election seasons, as Max Shields reminded me a few days ago.  By the same token, it is important to engage with the labor and community organizations we have who uphold and defend the unionized<br />
public sector, as that is the real basis from which we will draw any racially integral progressive resistance in the future.</p>
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		<title>By: Max Shields</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/12/barack-obama-on-israel%e2%80%99s-siege-of-gaza/#comment-34779</link>
		<dc:creator>Max Shields</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 16:38:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DB, I agree with your analysis on Cynthia McKinney.</description>
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		<title>By: Shabnam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shabnam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 16:38:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mary

Thank you very much for your information.  We appreciate it.</description>
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<p>Thank you very much for your information.  We appreciate it.</p>
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		<title>By: Max Shields</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/12/barack-obama-on-israel%e2%80%99s-siege-of-gaza/#comment-34777</link>
		<dc:creator>Max Shields</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 16:36:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Deadbeat,

I think you&#039;re missing the point. What percentage did B. Clinton get of Black and Latino votes? or Gore? or Kerry?

The overwhelming number of minority votes go to the Dem candidates regardless of the candidates the Dems have put up. Some African Americans went so far as to call B. Clinton the &quot;first black president.!!! Go figure. Nothing new there. It&#039;s problematic because the media controls the limits of the conversation and most voters regardless of color or gender remain relatively ignorant of the broader issues. That&#039;s the real problem.

I think the &quot;baseless&quot; (imo) expectations brought about because of the mythology of Obama will be a BIG problem for Obama in some ways. How he&#039;ll keep those expectations under &quot;control&quot;...I see riots in the streets and the spineless one using whatever card to shut it down. Pure speculation...but rising expectations usually lead to frustration and that usually leads to high volage riots.

We&#039;ll see.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Deadbeat,</p>
<p>I think you&#8217;re missing the point. What percentage did B. Clinton get of Black and Latino votes? or Gore? or Kerry?</p>
<p>The overwhelming number of minority votes go to the Dem candidates regardless of the candidates the Dems have put up. Some African Americans went so far as to call B. Clinton the &#8220;first black president.!!! Go figure. Nothing new there. It&#8217;s problematic because the media controls the limits of the conversation and most voters regardless of color or gender remain relatively ignorant of the broader issues. That&#8217;s the real problem.</p>
<p>I think the &#8220;baseless&#8221; (imo) expectations brought about because of the mythology of Obama will be a BIG problem for Obama in some ways. How he&#8217;ll keep those expectations under &#8220;control&#8221;&#8230;I see riots in the streets and the spineless one using whatever card to shut it down. Pure speculation&#8230;but rising expectations usually lead to frustration and that usually leads to high volage riots.</p>
<p>We&#8217;ll see.</p>
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		<title>By: mary</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/12/barack-obama-on-israel%e2%80%99s-siege-of-gaza/#comment-34774</link>
		<dc:creator>mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 16:20:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t wish to dominate the comments on Joshua Frank&#039;s excellent article  but just to say that today the DIGNITY (66ft length)  limped along the coast to Tyre in the Lebanon where it is now docked. Quite badly damaged by the looks of it.  My brother tells us that in the darkness 11 (I think he said 11 but it was a bad line) gunships/patrol boats surrounded the boat and played their searchlights on it. After a while they went away and the boat continued on its way. Suddenly when most on board were asleep and most of them were not wearing life jackets (perhaps they should have been) they were rammed more than once.  This is in breach of all maritime law and the  boat was in International Waters. Reports of its distance from shore range from 70 to 90 Kms. 

All on board  including Cynthia McKenny are certainly brave and courageous people whereas the Israeli gansters-in-charge are just cruel bullies.  The doctors  on the voyage went specifically to help with the care of the many patients especially those with fractures.  The Palestinian doctors are exhausted and need urgent supplies.

Meanwhile the Israeli  army consisting of thousands of troops and reservists, and tanks and guns are building up on the border &#039;waiting for the signal&#039;. More slaughter? More blood trickling into the dust and sand?

Please PROTEST at every level.  We are holding a large protest on Saturday in Parliament Square and there are ongoing protests outside the Israeli Embassy every day . Mounted police were brought in yesterday! The anger is growing and governments had better take some action and stop using weasel words such as &#039;restraint&#039; . This barbarity must stop immediately and a fair political decision found.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t wish to dominate the comments on Joshua Frank&#8217;s excellent article  but just to say that today the DIGNITY (66ft length)  limped along the coast to Tyre in the Lebanon where it is now docked. Quite badly damaged by the looks of it.  My brother tells us that in the darkness 11 (I think he said 11 but it was a bad line) gunships/patrol boats surrounded the boat and played their searchlights on it. After a while they went away and the boat continued on its way. Suddenly when most on board were asleep and most of them were not wearing life jackets (perhaps they should have been) they were rammed more than once.  This is in breach of all maritime law and the  boat was in International Waters. Reports of its distance from shore range from 70 to 90 Kms. </p>
<p>All on board  including Cynthia McKenny are certainly brave and courageous people whereas the Israeli gansters-in-charge are just cruel bullies.  The doctors  on the voyage went specifically to help with the care of the many patients especially those with fractures.  The Palestinian doctors are exhausted and need urgent supplies.</p>
<p>Meanwhile the Israeli  army consisting of thousands of troops and reservists, and tanks and guns are building up on the border &#8216;waiting for the signal&#8217;. More slaughter? More blood trickling into the dust and sand?</p>
<p>Please PROTEST at every level.  We are holding a large protest on Saturday in Parliament Square and there are ongoing protests outside the Israeli Embassy every day . Mounted police were brought in yesterday! The anger is growing and governments had better take some action and stop using weasel words such as &#8216;restraint&#8217; . This barbarity must stop immediately and a fair political decision found.</p>
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		<title>By: Deadbeat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deadbeat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 15:28:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;At bottom, Obama is a spineless pol who will chastise African Americans but will be singing kumbaya with the pastor Rick and the neocons/liberals.&lt;/i&gt;

The chastisement of African American by Obama is due to the fear that the &quot;power structure&quot; has of politics and ideas within oppressed communities.  However not to harp on the matter but Zionism does not play well within the African American community.  This IMO is a way to create the very needed wedge to weaken his support among communities of color. 

Obama received 95% of the Black vote and nearly 80% of the Latino vote.  This is clearly problematic for the Left and the Left needs to highlight Obama fealty to Zionism (or &quot;imperialism&quot; if you like but I believe that obscures the issue).  Recall that Obama had to jettison Rev. Wright due to his defense of Louis Farrakhan&#039;s stance against Zionism.  This is not to suggest that the Left &quot;embrace&quot; Farrakhan but what it does suggest is that the Left&#039;s solidarity with the African American who has raised this issue in the past and suffered the reaction by the establishment for having confronted Zionism.  Cynthia McKinney has been one of its more recent victims others like Gus Savage in the 1980&#039;s was also one of its earlier victims.

Max, I wouldn&#039;t necessarily describe Obama as &quot;spineless&quot;.  Obama has a spine and his using his spine to stand up for the establishment.  &quot;Spineless&quot; IMO is the African American &quot;leadership&quot; who has corralled Blacks into the Democratic Party and convinced Blacks that there is no alternative.  Unfortunately the Left has helped by its failure to coalesce around an alternative and for the Left&#039;s collapsing of the anti-war movement especially since Blacks demographically was very early against both the Afghan and Iraq Wars.

Zionism IMO is Obama &quot;Achillies&quot; because he cannot back down (and neither can the political establishment for that matter) from its wholehearted support for Israel.  For an African American to take this position is obvious pandering and IMO will clearly disillusion his support among people of color.  

This is where people of principle like Cynthia McKinney can make gains. Contrasting her bravery against Obama pandering will IMO weaken his support.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>At bottom, Obama is a spineless pol who will chastise African Americans but will be singing kumbaya with the pastor Rick and the neocons/liberals.</i></p>
<p>The chastisement of African American by Obama is due to the fear that the &#8220;power structure&#8221; has of politics and ideas within oppressed communities.  However not to harp on the matter but Zionism does not play well within the African American community.  This IMO is a way to create the very needed wedge to weaken his support among communities of color. </p>
<p>Obama received 95% of the Black vote and nearly 80% of the Latino vote.  This is clearly problematic for the Left and the Left needs to highlight Obama fealty to Zionism (or &#8220;imperialism&#8221; if you like but I believe that obscures the issue).  Recall that Obama had to jettison Rev. Wright due to his defense of Louis Farrakhan&#8217;s stance against Zionism.  This is not to suggest that the Left &#8220;embrace&#8221; Farrakhan but what it does suggest is that the Left&#8217;s solidarity with the African American who has raised this issue in the past and suffered the reaction by the establishment for having confronted Zionism.  Cynthia McKinney has been one of its more recent victims others like Gus Savage in the 1980&#8217;s was also one of its earlier victims.</p>
<p>Max, I wouldn&#8217;t necessarily describe Obama as &#8220;spineless&#8221;.  Obama has a spine and his using his spine to stand up for the establishment.  &#8220;Spineless&#8221; IMO is the African American &#8220;leadership&#8221; who has corralled Blacks into the Democratic Party and convinced Blacks that there is no alternative.  Unfortunately the Left has helped by its failure to coalesce around an alternative and for the Left&#8217;s collapsing of the anti-war movement especially since Blacks demographically was very early against both the Afghan and Iraq Wars.</p>
<p>Zionism IMO is Obama &#8220;Achillies&#8221; because he cannot back down (and neither can the political establishment for that matter) from its wholehearted support for Israel.  For an African American to take this position is obvious pandering and IMO will clearly disillusion his support among people of color.  </p>
<p>This is where people of principle like Cynthia McKinney can make gains. Contrasting her bravery against Obama pandering will IMO weaken his support.</p>
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		<title>By: Max Shields</title>
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		<dc:creator>Max Shields</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 14:32:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pragmaticism provides what has been referred to as a Realpolik in foreign affairs - Kissinger, et al. Nixon was frequently referred to as a pragmatist. It is as you say, Tim, an approach to a situation or condition.

It is passion/compassionless; i.e., cold blood. It is a means to an end. and you are absolutely right, Obama&#039;s end is framed by the power structure. 

Mary, I receive Cynthia&#039;s updates and she is the only courageous person of any color or gender I see on the horizon.

Deadbeat, I think Obama&#039;s Achilles Heal is the power structure (Zionism  is but one very ugly faction of that). At bottom, Obama is a spineless pol who will chastise African Americans but will be singing kumbaya with the pastor Rick and the neocons/liberals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pragmaticism provides what has been referred to as a Realpolik in foreign affairs &#8211; Kissinger, et al. Nixon was frequently referred to as a pragmatist. It is as you say, Tim, an approach to a situation or condition.</p>
<p>It is passion/compassionless; i.e., cold blood. It is a means to an end. and you are absolutely right, Obama&#8217;s end is framed by the power structure. </p>
<p>Mary, I receive Cynthia&#8217;s updates and she is the only courageous person of any color or gender I see on the horizon.</p>
<p>Deadbeat, I think Obama&#8217;s Achilles Heal is the power structure (Zionism  is but one very ugly faction of that). At bottom, Obama is a spineless pol who will chastise African Americans but will be singing kumbaya with the pastor Rick and the neocons/liberals.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/12/barack-obama-on-israel%e2%80%99s-siege-of-gaza/#comment-34766</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 09:43:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Max says:
&quot;This is the “new pragmaticism”. Noted it, it has nothing to do with morality or humanity.&quot;

You&#039;re completely right. Obama&#039;s stance is only &#039;pragmatic&#039; in the sense that it it &#039;works&#039; by not ruffling the feathers of power. And you&#039;re totally fucking right. The next prez&#039;s stance on this (along with countless other positions he has taken) has nothing at all to do with &#039;morality or humanity&#039;. Conservation of imperial power is the name of the (great) game and Barack Obama wants to win. He has shown that what he valuse most is power. The power of capital. The power of Empire. The power of dominant media praise.  It sucks. But, not only does it suck, but it is a kick to the face of a huge portion of his supporters who expect him to do something about these things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Max says:<br />
&#8220;This is the “new pragmaticism”. Noted it, it has nothing to do with morality or humanity.&#8221;</p>
<p>You&#8217;re completely right. Obama&#8217;s stance is only &#8216;pragmatic&#8217; in the sense that it it &#8216;works&#8217; by not ruffling the feathers of power. And you&#8217;re totally fucking right. The next prez&#8217;s stance on this (along with countless other positions he has taken) has nothing at all to do with &#8216;morality or humanity&#8217;. Conservation of imperial power is the name of the (great) game and Barack Obama wants to win. He has shown that what he valuse most is power. The power of capital. The power of Empire. The power of dominant media praise.  It sucks. But, not only does it suck, but it is a kick to the face of a huge portion of his supporters who expect him to do something about these things.</p>
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		<title>By: DavidG.</title>
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		<dc:creator>DavidG.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 09:17:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mary, Regev is a mouthpiece, much like the ones at the White House. Like parrots, they repeat their rehearsed lines and, like parrots, they don&#039;t understand what they are saying or care how far from the truth it is!

www.dangerouscreation.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mary, Regev is a mouthpiece, much like the ones at the White House. Like parrots, they repeat their rehearsed lines and, like parrots, they don&#8217;t understand what they are saying or care how far from the truth it is!</p>
<p><a href="http://www.dangerouscreation.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.dangerouscreation.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: mary</title>
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		<dc:creator>mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 07:55:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PS Do not waste your time or money phoning Mr Regev or the Israeli Ministry of Defence (War).  They will probably put the phone down on you as they did to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PS Do not waste your time or money phoning Mr Regev or the Israeli Ministry of Defence (War).  They will probably put the phone down on you as they did to me.</p>
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		<title>By: mary</title>
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		<dc:creator>mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 07:53:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder what Barack Obama will have to say when he hears that a fellow black American, Cynthia McKinney, is on a boat with others bearing supplies and aid for Gaza. In the night the boat was fired on and rammed causing damage to the superstructure but no one is injured. The Israelis will not allow the boat to land at Gaza with its 3 tons of supplies to help the suffering and injured Palestinians but have ordered it to Lebanon. This news is sketchy as I cannot make contact with my brother David Halpin who is also on the boat.

The Palestinians should not feel that they are alone.

http://www.freegaza.org/index.php?module=latest_news&amp;id=ea798749aeed49271e3b58adf6d89db6
and
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1051224.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder what Barack Obama will have to say when he hears that a fellow black American, Cynthia McKinney, is on a boat with others bearing supplies and aid for Gaza. In the night the boat was fired on and rammed causing damage to the superstructure but no one is injured. The Israelis will not allow the boat to land at Gaza with its 3 tons of supplies to help the suffering and injured Palestinians but have ordered it to Lebanon. This news is sketchy as I cannot make contact with my brother David Halpin who is also on the boat.</p>
<p>The Palestinians should not feel that they are alone.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.freegaza.org/index.php?module=latest_news&amp;id=ea798749aeed49271e3b58adf6d89db6" rel="nofollow">http://www.freegaza.org/index.php?module=latest_news&amp;id=ea798749aeed49271e3b58adf6d89db6</a><br />
and<br />
<a href="http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1051224.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1051224.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Deadbeat</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/12/barack-obama-on-israel%e2%80%99s-siege-of-gaza/#comment-34759</link>
		<dc:creator>Deadbeat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 06:40:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zionism is Obama&#039;s Achilles Heal.  His fealty to Zionism is obvious and it makes obvious the influence that Zionism has over the entire U.S. political economy.  Zionism will be the downfall of Barack Obama and his impending administration.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zionism is Obama&#8217;s Achilles Heal.  His fealty to Zionism is obvious and it makes obvious the influence that Zionism has over the entire U.S. political economy.  Zionism will be the downfall of Barack Obama and his impending administration.</p>
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		<title>By: catintheredhat</title>
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		<dc:creator>catintheredhat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 23:45:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can anyone source some factfinding on the early stages of the conflict? There have been some conflicting accounts given about the breaking of the ceasefire.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can anyone source some factfinding on the early stages of the conflict? There have been some conflicting accounts given about the breaking of the ceasefire.</p>
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		<title>By: bozh</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/12/barack-obama-on-israel%e2%80%99s-siege-of-gaza/#comment-34726</link>
		<dc:creator>bozh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 19:52:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>when i read that isr was withdrawing from gaza, i thought why?
i expected more warfare against gaza as isr cld invade and reinvade using the usual lies as pretext to be bestial towards pals.
i actually remember  saying this to a person who was not sympathetic to pals.
and my prediction turned out be correct. thanx</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>when i read that isr was withdrawing from gaza, i thought why?<br />
i expected more warfare against gaza as isr cld invade and reinvade using the usual lies as pretext to be bestial towards pals.<br />
i actually remember  saying this to a person who was not sympathetic to pals.<br />
and my prediction turned out be correct. thanx</p>
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		<title>By: Max Shields</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/12/barack-obama-on-israel%e2%80%99s-siege-of-gaza/#comment-34721</link>
		<dc:creator>Max Shields</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 18:42:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael, Obama is all coward when dealing with the power structure, except...when he chides African Americans, then he&#039;s a big man.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael, Obama is all coward when dealing with the power structure, except&#8230;when he chides African Americans, then he&#8217;s a big man.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Hureaux</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/12/barack-obama-on-israel%e2%80%99s-siege-of-gaza/#comment-34716</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Hureaux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 18:04:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nicely put, Josh.  The point is that no one has more political capital in this world then Barack Obama, and if he won&#039;t use it now, he can&#039;t be expected to ever.  Obama, were he really what his most fervid believers claimed he is during the election, could split the ruling elite in two, and let the war speculators and rabid national security state groupies eat themselves alive over this question, and he&#039;d have the world&#039;s support in doing so.  He&#039;s a bigger coward then I thought he was.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nicely put, Josh.  The point is that no one has more political capital in this world then Barack Obama, and if he won&#8217;t use it now, he can&#8217;t be expected to ever.  Obama, were he really what his most fervid believers claimed he is during the election, could split the ruling elite in two, and let the war speculators and rabid national security state groupies eat themselves alive over this question, and he&#8217;d have the world&#8217;s support in doing so.  He&#8217;s a bigger coward then I thought he was.</p>
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		<title>By: The Angry Peasant</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/12/barack-obama-on-israel%e2%80%99s-siege-of-gaza/#comment-34715</link>
		<dc:creator>The Angry Peasant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 17:23:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reprehensible! The fact that the U.S. government continues to support and cover up the Israeli atrocity couldn&#039;t be more insulting. If one requires no other example of the United States&#039; shameless willingness to lie to its own people, this is it. The public has been kept in the dark about the Gaza ghetto situation, not to mention who the actual aggressors are. I sincerely hope that Obama&#039;s inauguration is met with the same mass protesting that Bush&#039;s was. Perhaps that will give the sheep-like American public their first clue that this is no hero they so proudly elected.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reprehensible! The fact that the U.S. government continues to support and cover up the Israeli atrocity couldn&#8217;t be more insulting. If one requires no other example of the United States&#8217; shameless willingness to lie to its own people, this is it. The public has been kept in the dark about the Gaza ghetto situation, not to mention who the actual aggressors are. I sincerely hope that Obama&#8217;s inauguration is met with the same mass protesting that Bush&#8217;s was. Perhaps that will give the sheep-like American public their first clue that this is no hero they so proudly elected.</p>
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		<title>By: Tree</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/12/barack-obama-on-israel%e2%80%99s-siege-of-gaza/#comment-34710</link>
		<dc:creator>Tree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 16:18:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In an interview with Ma&#039;ariv, Emanuel&#039;s father, Dr. Benjamin Emanuel, said he was convinced that his son&#039;s appointment would be good for Israel. &quot;Obviously he will influence the president to be pro-Israel,&quot; he was quoted as saying. &quot;Why wouldn&#039;t he be? What is he, an Arab? He&#039;s not going to clean the floors of the White House.&quot; 

The Ma&#039;ariv article also quoted Dr. Emanuel as saying that his son spends most summers visiting in Tel Aviv, and that he speaks Hebrew, but not fluently. 

Anyone who thinks Obama is a Dove or someone who will stand up to Israel, is fooling themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In an interview with Ma&#8217;ariv, Emanuel&#8217;s father, Dr. Benjamin Emanuel, said he was convinced that his son&#8217;s appointment would be good for Israel. &#8220;Obviously he will influence the president to be pro-Israel,&#8221; he was quoted as saying. &#8220;Why wouldn&#8217;t he be? What is he, an Arab? He&#8217;s not going to clean the floors of the White House.&#8221; </p>
<p>The Ma&#8217;ariv article also quoted Dr. Emanuel as saying that his son spends most summers visiting in Tel Aviv, and that he speaks Hebrew, but not fluently. </p>
<p>Anyone who thinks Obama is a Dove or someone who will stand up to Israel, is fooling themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: Max Shields</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/12/barack-obama-on-israel%e2%80%99s-siege-of-gaza/#comment-34708</link>
		<dc:creator>Max Shields</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 16:10:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wasn&#039;t that George Bush&#039;s comment about New Orleans in the aftermath of Katrina? Sounds like we&#039;ve got more of the same with Obama.

This is the &quot;new pragmaticism&quot;. Noted it, it has nothing to do with morality or humanity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wasn&#8217;t that George Bush&#8217;s comment about New Orleans in the aftermath of Katrina? Sounds like we&#8217;ve got more of the same with Obama.</p>
<p>This is the &#8220;new pragmaticism&#8221;. Noted it, it has nothing to do with morality or humanity.</p>
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