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		<title>By: humbugditto</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/12/americans-should-act-to-end-violence-against-gaza/#comment-36672</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jan 2009 04:18:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve, here is just a sample of the last names of Jewish slave owners in the United States: Monsanto, Asher, Barsimson, Levy, Zuntz, Simons, Jacob, Nathan, Judah, Myers, Hyam, Isaacs, Hayes, Frankfort, etc. There exists several more names and even these last names are for different families of slave-owners and slave-traders. For anyone to believe that Jews did not support, provide ships for, and were not actively involved in the slave trade in the United States and abroad is a complete fool! Even the quotes from Manuel Jacob Monsanto during his sale of slaves in Louisana is on record! Throughout history, Jews have supported the subjugation of blacks in the United States. Read Rabbi Marc Lee Raphael&#039;s book about the Jewish slave owners; Jews dominated the &#039;triangular trade&#039; which brought slaves from Africa to the West Indies (for molasses)! Oh yeah, read about 1656 Curacao and the Jewish domination of the slave trade! Jews not only dominated the slave trade and thusly made their enormous incomes which resulted in several businesses which operate TODAY, they did so with a fervent hunger of relegating blacks (Africans) forever to a subservient class! 
I could go on and point out more facts which depict the true history of Jews in America and abroad but it is pointless when you live in an environment where it is &#039;politically correct&#039; to shed tears  for the victims of the Holocaust but remain silent about the Jewish involvement in slavery and the destruction of African-Americans (through sociological programs and systematic genocide. 
It comes as little suprise that Israel continues to further Jewish and Zionist agenda. 
Believing that others are subservient and not worthy of living  (except to serve Jewish needs) seems to be their modus opperundi! Their ancestors did so ... therefore, why should Israel be any different! 
Alas, Israel need not fear the next four years. Obama is a staunch supporter of its&#039; illegal occupation of Palestine and further broadening of its&#039; supposed boundaries throughout the Middle East. No American President will oppose Israel... to do so would be political and possibly personal suicide! 
I read some of the quotes which spoke about Abraham (Ibrahim), and other Biblical Patriarchs. I would just like to state, as a HISTORY MAJOR!!!, do not be fooled by  individuals who must lie to justify their attrocities. The Bible is an amalgam of several preceding texts, spoken events, etc. Furthermore, if anyone took the time to research world history, it would soon become evident that the Jews of today are in no way related those spoken of in the Bible! When facts which uncovered the Jewish historical myth were discovered, some Jewish scholars attempted to disprove and/or discredit these facts. However, when their attempts proved futile, they altered the geneologies! They actually inserted their names and the names of their ancestors! The Bible has now become a book whereby the Western powers (at the behest of Israel) uses to justify the destruction of a nation! 
You readers may wish to investigate as to just how much control Israel actually has over America and the entire Western powers! No major world-altering event has or will occur without Israel&#039;s influence. Research any historical event which has led to the destruction of, or the altering of an entire race, nation, class, etc. and you will note Jewish and (then later) Israel involvement!
I do not write this statement to anger anyone. I simply state the facts as they are! The wool has been covering the eyes of the masses for far too long! Furthermore, it is high-time for individuals to question events and why they occur. Every event is connected to one which precededs. No event has occured spontaneously! When you discover the &#039;how&#039;s and why&#039;s &#039; , as you research further, you will discover who or what organization stood to gain from its&#039; occurrence.
It would be nice to see peace reign. However, as I stated prior, it is not the intent of the Zionist Operation (Israel) to bring about peace. There is no money made during peace! 
In closing, I would challenge any who oppose what I have stated to do their research first before they rebut these facts. 
And, remember it is not to argue but to enlighten and educate that I have written these things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve, here is just a sample of the last names of Jewish slave owners in the United States: Monsanto, Asher, Barsimson, Levy, Zuntz, Simons, Jacob, Nathan, Judah, Myers, Hyam, Isaacs, Hayes, Frankfort, etc. There exists several more names and even these last names are for different families of slave-owners and slave-traders. For anyone to believe that Jews did not support, provide ships for, and were not actively involved in the slave trade in the United States and abroad is a complete fool! Even the quotes from Manuel Jacob Monsanto during his sale of slaves in Louisana is on record! Throughout history, Jews have supported the subjugation of blacks in the United States. Read Rabbi Marc Lee Raphael&#8217;s book about the Jewish slave owners; Jews dominated the &#8216;triangular trade&#8217; which brought slaves from Africa to the West Indies (for molasses)! Oh yeah, read about 1656 Curacao and the Jewish domination of the slave trade! Jews not only dominated the slave trade and thusly made their enormous incomes which resulted in several businesses which operate TODAY, they did so with a fervent hunger of relegating blacks (Africans) forever to a subservient class!<br />
I could go on and point out more facts which depict the true history of Jews in America and abroad but it is pointless when you live in an environment where it is &#8216;politically correct&#8217; to shed tears  for the victims of the Holocaust but remain silent about the Jewish involvement in slavery and the destruction of African-Americans (through sociological programs and systematic genocide.<br />
It comes as little suprise that Israel continues to further Jewish and Zionist agenda.<br />
Believing that others are subservient and not worthy of living  (except to serve Jewish needs) seems to be their modus opperundi! Their ancestors did so &#8230; therefore, why should Israel be any different!<br />
Alas, Israel need not fear the next four years. Obama is a staunch supporter of its&#8217; illegal occupation of Palestine and further broadening of its&#8217; supposed boundaries throughout the Middle East. No American President will oppose Israel&#8230; to do so would be political and possibly personal suicide!<br />
I read some of the quotes which spoke about Abraham (Ibrahim), and other Biblical Patriarchs. I would just like to state, as a HISTORY MAJOR!!!, do not be fooled by  individuals who must lie to justify their attrocities. The Bible is an amalgam of several preceding texts, spoken events, etc. Furthermore, if anyone took the time to research world history, it would soon become evident that the Jews of today are in no way related those spoken of in the Bible! When facts which uncovered the Jewish historical myth were discovered, some Jewish scholars attempted to disprove and/or discredit these facts. However, when their attempts proved futile, they altered the geneologies! They actually inserted their names and the names of their ancestors! The Bible has now become a book whereby the Western powers (at the behest of Israel) uses to justify the destruction of a nation!<br />
You readers may wish to investigate as to just how much control Israel actually has over America and the entire Western powers! No major world-altering event has or will occur without Israel&#8217;s influence. Research any historical event which has led to the destruction of, or the altering of an entire race, nation, class, etc. and you will note Jewish and (then later) Israel involvement!<br />
I do not write this statement to anger anyone. I simply state the facts as they are! The wool has been covering the eyes of the masses for far too long! Furthermore, it is high-time for individuals to question events and why they occur. Every event is connected to one which precededs. No event has occured spontaneously! When you discover the &#8216;how&#8217;s and why&#8217;s &#8216; , as you research further, you will discover who or what organization stood to gain from its&#8217; occurrence.<br />
It would be nice to see peace reign. However, as I stated prior, it is not the intent of the Zionist Operation (Israel) to bring about peace. There is no money made during peace!<br />
In closing, I would challenge any who oppose what I have stated to do their research first before they rebut these facts.<br />
And, remember it is not to argue but to enlighten and educate that I have written these things.</p>
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		<title>By: Suthiano</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/12/americans-should-act-to-end-violence-against-gaza/#comment-35464</link>
		<dc:creator>Suthiano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 22:18:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quite frankly if my father threatened to sacrifice me, or shunned my brother, i would seperate and never see him again. these actions are not manifestations of love. These are actions of insanity/elitism/hatred. Perhaps if Abraham had given just a fraction of the love he gave to his &quot;GOd&quot; to his sons, things would have turned out better.

Of course it is rather funny to talk about &quot;Abraham&quot;... his identity is a construct of several different texts written in different languages. Who he was, no one alive &quot;knows&quot;... acts atributed to him in Old Testament/Penteteuch aren&#039;t examples of good conduct.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quite frankly if my father threatened to sacrifice me, or shunned my brother, i would seperate and never see him again. these actions are not manifestations of love. These are actions of insanity/elitism/hatred. Perhaps if Abraham had given just a fraction of the love he gave to his &#8220;GOd&#8221; to his sons, things would have turned out better.</p>
<p>Of course it is rather funny to talk about &#8220;Abraham&#8221;&#8230; his identity is a construct of several different texts written in different languages. Who he was, no one alive &#8220;knows&#8221;&#8230; acts atributed to him in Old Testament/Penteteuch aren&#8217;t examples of good conduct.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Klein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Klein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 22:03:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Suthiano said:  Which shows that Abraham, was at best, a fucking asshole.&quot;

You hate Abraham?  

I guess I am on permanent moderation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Suthiano said:  Which shows that Abraham, was at best, a fucking asshole.&#8221;</p>
<p>You hate Abraham?  </p>
<p>I guess I am on permanent moderation.</p>
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		<title>By: Suthiano</title>
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		<dc:creator>Suthiano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 21:51:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Which shows that Abraham, was at best, a fucking asshole.</description>
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		<title>By: bozh</title>
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		<dc:creator>bozh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 21:07:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>steve, about ishmael. i have to refresh my memory about his descendants. arabs, were, i think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>steve, about ishmael. i have to refresh my memory about his descendants. arabs, were, i think.</p>
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		<title>By: bozh</title>
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		<dc:creator>bozh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 21:02:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>steve, thnx for your input.
if my memory serves me well, i said that canaanites are descendants of noah&#039;s son, Ham.
noah had cursed Ham and canaanites. mind you, all this is according to the priests who may have wrote and rewrote torah.
shem was also noah&#039; son. noah did not curse arabs. thus, i concluded that they are descendants of Shem.
i don&#039;t recall calling canaanites &quot;shemites&quot;.  if i did once or twice, then i was mistaken.
it is believed that assyrians were not at first a semitic people. but as semites from canaan migrated into assyrian land the two people eventually became one people.
it is likely that amonites, amorites, canaanites, assyrians, arabs, et al were one people at one time. 
because they all spoke dialects of one language, a semitic or shemitic one.
how ab original assyrians? did they also speak a dialect of a semitic tongue? well, historians are not sure.
canaanites, by sharing the same tongue with arabs, must have also been of shemitic origin, now that i think about it.
but hebrews who came to canaan from n.iraq may or may have not been shemitic at one time.
nobody knows for sure if they are not of chaldean or assyrian origin.
but hebrews did speak a dialect of the shemitic tongue. had they always spoken a shemitic dialect? or took up the language when they migrated from mesopotamia to canaan? let historians determine that. 
be it as it may, i think we can conclude that hebrews, arabs, canaanites, moabites, edomites, midians, amelekites, jebusites, amorites, et al were one people; let&#039;s say 5-10 td yrs ago
so we can group them as semites. i understand that even chaldeans and akkadians had some shemitic genes. that&#039;s the best i cld do at this time. thnx</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>steve, thnx for your input.<br />
if my memory serves me well, i said that canaanites are descendants of noah&#8217;s son, Ham.<br />
noah had cursed Ham and canaanites. mind you, all this is according to the priests who may have wrote and rewrote torah.<br />
shem was also noah&#8217; son. noah did not curse arabs. thus, i concluded that they are descendants of Shem.<br />
i don&#8217;t recall calling canaanites &#8220;shemites&#8221;.  if i did once or twice, then i was mistaken.<br />
it is believed that assyrians were not at first a semitic people. but as semites from canaan migrated into assyrian land the two people eventually became one people.<br />
it is likely that amonites, amorites, canaanites, assyrians, arabs, et al were one people at one time.<br />
because they all spoke dialects of one language, a semitic or shemitic one.<br />
how ab original assyrians? did they also speak a dialect of a semitic tongue? well, historians are not sure.<br />
canaanites, by sharing the same tongue with arabs, must have also been of shemitic origin, now that i think about it.<br />
but hebrews who came to canaan from n.iraq may or may have not been shemitic at one time.<br />
nobody knows for sure if they are not of chaldean or assyrian origin.<br />
but hebrews did speak a dialect of the shemitic tongue. had they always spoken a shemitic dialect? or took up the language when they migrated from mesopotamia to canaan? let historians determine that.<br />
be it as it may, i think we can conclude that hebrews, arabs, canaanites, moabites, edomites, midians, amelekites, jebusites, amorites, et al were one people; let&#8217;s say 5-10 td yrs ago<br />
so we can group them as semites. i understand that even chaldeans and akkadians had some shemitic genes. that&#8217;s the best i cld do at this time. thnx</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Klein</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/12/americans-should-act-to-end-violence-against-gaza/#comment-35444</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Klein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 21:01:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Suthiano, I would appreciate you reading this and I would also appreciate your comment:

http://pajamasmedia.com/ronrosenbaum/2009/01/04/some-differences-between-hamas-and-the-nazi-party-2/

Then when you get a chance, please read this shorter one and comment.  

http://victorhanson.com/articles/hanson010209.html

Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Suthiano, I would appreciate you reading this and I would also appreciate your comment:</p>
<p><a href="http://pajamasmedia.com/ronrosenbaum/2009/01/04/some-differences-between-hamas-and-the-nazi-party-2/" rel="nofollow">http://pajamasmedia.com/ronrosenbaum/2009/01/04/some-differences-between-hamas-and-the-nazi-party-2/</a></p>
<p>Then when you get a chance, please read this shorter one and comment.  </p>
<p><a href="http://victorhanson.com/articles/hanson010209.html" rel="nofollow">http://victorhanson.com/articles/hanson010209.html</a></p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Suthiano</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/12/americans-should-act-to-end-violence-against-gaza/#comment-35430</link>
		<dc:creator>Suthiano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 19:32:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Klein your out of your mind.

I wish you knew what you meant by &quot;Jews&quot;. Do you mean &quot;Jews&quot; who joined revolutionary communism in late 19th early 20th Century, and were fundamentally opposed to any nationalist movement including Zionism? Do you mean people who made up &quot;Jewish Workers&#039; League&quot; or &quot;Bund&quot;, who aimed to improve conditions within the societies where they actually lived, and opposed Zionism? Do you mean only people who observe Sabbath? Do you mean people who follow ALL 10 of the 10 commandments? Or are the racist murderers like Livni, Sharon, Peres Jews? How about all the &quot;Jews&quot; working against their own government&#039;s racist policies in Israel? Those people are certainly not .Israeli Zionists. Livni has blue eyes blond hair, is she too shemitic? is she a zionist?

Klein, you can&#039;t shake someone like me. I can&#039;t be hoodwinked by you or any other militant Zionist. I know that antisemitism has been big force of help to Zionist movement...  In 1911 the view was expressed by the Encylcopaedia Britannica, for instance, that &#039;With the passing away of anti-Semitism, Jewish nationalism will disappear&#039;&quot; (Davies, Europe A History, 847). Little militants like you think your clever trying to paint all criticisms with same brush... think you&#039;ll get me to say something racist... but the thing is I&#039;m not racist. I believe all peoples are equal. Unfortunately not all peoples have equal desires to get along. Israeli Zionists (which distinguishes from Zionists that existed pre-Israel) have proven - as mentioned above - that they have no intent to try to get along with other peoples, but rather bully, kill (much like Amerikkkan counterparts). In so far as Geneva Convention came out of Nuremberg Trials, very telling that Zionists and Israeli Zionists had no interest in upholding international norms created in reponse to the Holocaust, or shoah as it is called in Hebrew... By the way, there was that little slip up by deputy defense minister Matan Vilnai last year, when he threatened Gazans with a &quot;bigger holocaust&quot;, for firing their rockets. I guess he and fellow Zionist leaders decided to implement &quot;Operation Gazan Shoah&quot; 6 days ago.

That&#039;s right Klein, you can pretend I&#039;m a mass murderer, who seeks to wipe people from the planet. I have never done any of these things, nor advocated for them. You are defending Israeli slaughter of Palestinians, which is ongoing and real.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Klein your out of your mind.</p>
<p>I wish you knew what you meant by &#8220;Jews&#8221;. Do you mean &#8220;Jews&#8221; who joined revolutionary communism in late 19th early 20th Century, and were fundamentally opposed to any nationalist movement including Zionism? Do you mean people who made up &#8220;Jewish Workers&#8217; League&#8221; or &#8220;Bund&#8221;, who aimed to improve conditions within the societies where they actually lived, and opposed Zionism? Do you mean only people who observe Sabbath? Do you mean people who follow ALL 10 of the 10 commandments? Or are the racist murderers like Livni, Sharon, Peres Jews? How about all the &#8220;Jews&#8221; working against their own government&#8217;s racist policies in Israel? Those people are certainly not .Israeli Zionists. Livni has blue eyes blond hair, is she too shemitic? is she a zionist?</p>
<p>Klein, you can&#8217;t shake someone like me. I can&#8217;t be hoodwinked by you or any other militant Zionist. I know that antisemitism has been big force of help to Zionist movement&#8230;  In 1911 the view was expressed by the Encylcopaedia Britannica, for instance, that &#8216;With the passing away of anti-Semitism, Jewish nationalism will disappear&#8217;&#8221; (Davies, Europe A History, 847). Little militants like you think your clever trying to paint all criticisms with same brush&#8230; think you&#8217;ll get me to say something racist&#8230; but the thing is I&#8217;m not racist. I believe all peoples are equal. Unfortunately not all peoples have equal desires to get along. Israeli Zionists (which distinguishes from Zionists that existed pre-Israel) have proven &#8211; as mentioned above &#8211; that they have no intent to try to get along with other peoples, but rather bully, kill (much like Amerikkkan counterparts). In so far as Geneva Convention came out of Nuremberg Trials, very telling that Zionists and Israeli Zionists had no interest in upholding international norms created in reponse to the Holocaust, or shoah as it is called in Hebrew&#8230; By the way, there was that little slip up by deputy defense minister Matan Vilnai last year, when he threatened Gazans with a &#8220;bigger holocaust&#8221;, for firing their rockets. I guess he and fellow Zionist leaders decided to implement &#8220;Operation Gazan Shoah&#8221; 6 days ago.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s right Klein, you can pretend I&#8217;m a mass murderer, who seeks to wipe people from the planet. I have never done any of these things, nor advocated for them. You are defending Israeli slaughter of Palestinians, which is ongoing and real.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Klein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Klein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 19:15:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bozh wrote: &quot;the so called jews of today should know all this and begin to realize in what actual danger they are by picking shemites as enemies.  shemites do not fear death.&quot;

The sons of Ishmael living in Israel (at least) claim to be the descendants of the ancient Canaanites.  This is how they establish their claim to the land of Israel.  Ishmael was the son of Hagar, the Egyptian -- that is Mizraim.   

Now the sons of Ham were Cush and Mizraim and Put and Canaan.  (Gen chapter 10) Noah said, &quot;Cursed be Canaan; servant of servants shall he be to his brothers.&quot; (Gen chapter 9)

If the sons of Ishmael claim to be descendants of the ancient Canaanites.  If they behave like Canaanites, why do you call them Shemites?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bozh wrote: &#8220;the so called jews of today should know all this and begin to realize in what actual danger they are by picking shemites as enemies.  shemites do not fear death.&#8221;</p>
<p>The sons of Ishmael living in Israel (at least) claim to be the descendants of the ancient Canaanites.  This is how they establish their claim to the land of Israel.  Ishmael was the son of Hagar, the Egyptian &#8212; that is Mizraim.   </p>
<p>Now the sons of Ham were Cush and Mizraim and Put and Canaan.  (Gen chapter 10) Noah said, &#8220;Cursed be Canaan; servant of servants shall he be to his brothers.&#8221; (Gen chapter 9)</p>
<p>If the sons of Ishmael claim to be descendants of the ancient Canaanites.  If they behave like Canaanites, why do you call them Shemites?</p>
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		<title>By: bozh</title>
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		<dc:creator>bozh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 19:11:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yes, you better believe it, shemites are out to destroy the nonshemites of israel.
and in all likelihood they will one day. and the nonshemites will flee to US mainly i hope.
they are uncle sam&#039;s favorite people right now. but in decades to come who knows how uncle wld feel towards his pets.

remember how uncle had betrayed turkey?  by establishing an independent kurdistan in iraq?
even tho turkey was a very strong ally to US which had placed all kinds  of nuclearly-armed missiles on turkish soil pointing at usssr.

at one time US was strongly supportive of serbia and iran.  but not any longer. thnx</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes, you better believe it, shemites are out to destroy the nonshemites of israel.<br />
and in all likelihood they will one day. and the nonshemites will flee to US mainly i hope.<br />
they are uncle sam&#8217;s favorite people right now. but in decades to come who knows how uncle wld feel towards his pets.</p>
<p>remember how uncle had betrayed turkey?  by establishing an independent kurdistan in iraq?<br />
even tho turkey was a very strong ally to US which had placed all kinds  of nuclearly-armed missiles on turkish soil pointing at usssr.</p>
<p>at one time US was strongly supportive of serbia and iran.  but not any longer. thnx</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Klein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Klein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 19:05:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Suthiano, come on be honest.   State it like you really think. 

Suthiano: &quot; The perfidious Jews are not law abiding peoples. They don’t abide by any laws, whether their own, international, religious, etc. Their own norm established by these despicable subhumans suggests they -- these vermin; these lice -- cannot be trusted, as they have no coherent moral code that can be applied universally. Or perhaps more to the point, the Jew has no interest in being held to any such standards.  They must be eliminated from the planet!&quot;

Sig Heil Suthaiano!  Sig Heil!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Suthiano, come on be honest.   State it like you really think. </p>
<p>Suthiano: &#8221; The perfidious Jews are not law abiding peoples. They don’t abide by any laws, whether their own, international, religious, etc. Their own norm established by these despicable subhumans suggests they &#8212; these vermin; these lice &#8212; cannot be trusted, as they have no coherent moral code that can be applied universally. Or perhaps more to the point, the Jew has no interest in being held to any such standards.  They must be eliminated from the planet!&#8221;</p>
<p>Sig Heil Suthaiano!  Sig Heil!</p>
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		<title>By: Suthiano</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/12/americans-should-act-to-end-violence-against-gaza/#comment-35420</link>
		<dc:creator>Suthiano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 18:57:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, my mistake.. That number is only valid up until 2003.... probably several more to add on... several more instances that Israel is rogue state (along with U.S.... and before 1991 Apartheid SA).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, my mistake.. That number is only valid up until 2003&#8230;. probably several more to add on&#8230; several more instances that Israel is rogue state (along with U.S&#8230;. and before 1991 Apartheid SA).</p>
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		<title>By: bozh</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/12/americans-should-act-to-end-violence-against-gaza/#comment-35419</link>
		<dc:creator>bozh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 18:56:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>people are not nor can they be antisemitic or but only antishemitic. the descendants of shem, noah&#039;s son, are hebrews and arabs. the word  &quot;semitic&quot;  is ok  to use if one recognizes the fact that the europeans w. a cult are in no way related to either israelites nor judeans.

both have evanesced. they were severely punished by an assyrian-canaanitic people in 1728 b.c. judeans have been slain/dispersed by romans btw 70 a.d and 15 a.d. many judeans also fled, mostly to arab lands whose language the knew.

i am proshemitic or prosemitic, if one indulges. so far i am relying on torah for this information as well as history ab canaanites, akkadians, chaldeans, arabs, and a few hebraic families.

it seems that only 70 hebrews (the word meaning shepards) left canaan for egypt some 3500-4000 b.c because of a famine.
hebrews originally came to canaan from present n. iraq

so, it seems that hebrew ancestors were chaldeans. be it as it may, we know that torahic narrative is riddled with contradictions/wishful thinking/hatred  for canaanites, moabites, amelekites, et al so that its account should not be taken as neither accurate nor adequate.

the socalled jews of today should know all this and begin to realize in what actual danger they are by picking shemites as enemies.
shemites do not fear death.

but the people with torahic cult do because they are not shemitic, among other reasons. ok, enough for this time. thnx</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>people are not nor can they be antisemitic or but only antishemitic. the descendants of shem, noah&#8217;s son, are hebrews and arabs. the word  &#8220;semitic&#8221;  is ok  to use if one recognizes the fact that the europeans w. a cult are in no way related to either israelites nor judeans.</p>
<p>both have evanesced. they were severely punished by an assyrian-canaanitic people in 1728 b.c. judeans have been slain/dispersed by romans btw 70 a.d and 15 a.d. many judeans also fled, mostly to arab lands whose language the knew.</p>
<p>i am proshemitic or prosemitic, if one indulges. so far i am relying on torah for this information as well as history ab canaanites, akkadians, chaldeans, arabs, and a few hebraic families.</p>
<p>it seems that only 70 hebrews (the word meaning shepards) left canaan for egypt some 3500-4000 b.c because of a famine.<br />
hebrews originally came to canaan from present n. iraq</p>
<p>so, it seems that hebrew ancestors were chaldeans. be it as it may, we know that torahic narrative is riddled with contradictions/wishful thinking/hatred  for canaanites, moabites, amelekites, et al so that its account should not be taken as neither accurate nor adequate.</p>
<p>the socalled jews of today should know all this and begin to realize in what actual danger they are by picking shemites as enemies.<br />
shemites do not fear death.</p>
<p>but the people with torahic cult do because they are not shemitic, among other reasons. ok, enough for this time. thnx</p>
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		<title>By: Suthiano</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/12/americans-should-act-to-end-violence-against-gaza/#comment-35416</link>
		<dc:creator>Suthiano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 18:53:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Israeli Zionists are not law abiding peoples. They don&#039;t abide by any laws, whether own, international, religious. Thus own norm established by them suggests they cannot be trusted, as they have no coherent moral code that can be applied universally. Or perhaps more to the point, they have no interest in being held to any such standards.

Since 1948 U.S. has endorsed 43 UN Security Council resolutions on Israeli criminality. U.S. has also blocked enforcement provisions in ALL of the 43 instances.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Israeli Zionists are not law abiding peoples. They don&#8217;t abide by any laws, whether own, international, religious. Thus own norm established by them suggests they cannot be trusted, as they have no coherent moral code that can be applied universally. Or perhaps more to the point, they have no interest in being held to any such standards.</p>
<p>Since 1948 U.S. has endorsed 43 UN Security Council resolutions on Israeli criminality. U.S. has also blocked enforcement provisions in ALL of the 43 instances.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Klein</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/12/americans-should-act-to-end-violence-against-gaza/#comment-35415</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Klein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 18:52:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Suthiano: 

http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/024248.php#comments</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Suthiano: </p>
<p><a href="http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/024248.php#comments" rel="nofollow">http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/024248.php#comments</a></p>
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		<title>By: Suthiano</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/12/americans-should-act-to-end-violence-against-gaza/#comment-35405</link>
		<dc:creator>Suthiano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 18:17:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve Klein sounds clinically insane. He has dreams of shooting up mosques with depleted uranium. He thinks the world would be better place if it was just him, his moms and henry kissinger. they would probably start shooting at all living things, accusing them of being terrorists... maybe they&#039;d build a wall to keep out the jackals. 

Fortress mentality = terrible life. That is your life Steve Klein... you live in a fortress because if you walked around with real people with your smug, racist beliefs, you would get your ass kicked. You would be looking down at people and they&#039;d be like &quot;who&#039;s this asshole?&quot; But I&#039;m sure you know...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve Klein sounds clinically insane. He has dreams of shooting up mosques with depleted uranium. He thinks the world would be better place if it was just him, his moms and henry kissinger. they would probably start shooting at all living things, accusing them of being terrorists&#8230; maybe they&#8217;d build a wall to keep out the jackals. </p>
<p>Fortress mentality = terrible life. That is your life Steve Klein&#8230; you live in a fortress because if you walked around with real people with your smug, racist beliefs, you would get your ass kicked. You would be looking down at people and they&#8217;d be like &#8220;who&#8217;s this asshole?&#8221; But I&#8217;m sure you know&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Don Hawkins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don Hawkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 18:09:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I say, shame on my fellow conservatives — shame on Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity and other conservatives — for standing by George W. Bush as he has betrayed fundamental conservative princples, not to mention betrayed his nation.

 When you write that about sean or rush it&#039;s almost like they use knowledge. What those two people do is called foolishness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I say, shame on my fellow conservatives — shame on Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity and other conservatives — for standing by George W. Bush as he has betrayed fundamental conservative princples, not to mention betrayed his nation.</p>
<p> When you write that about sean or rush it&#8217;s almost like they use knowledge. What those two people do is called foolishness.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Klein</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/12/americans-should-act-to-end-violence-against-gaza/#comment-35398</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Klein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 17:57:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You wrote: “A meaningless term used by intellectual cowards. Is a person who criticizes the US government a “self-hating American”? Imagine the term applied as “a self-hating Christian” or “a self-hating Muslim”. What a farce.”

I think this might require further exploration.   I am a thirty-seven year registered (conservative) Republican.  I grew up in an activist Republican family.  My late father was our party chairman, state committeeman, etc.  We talked politics at the dinner table.  I am what you might call a social conservative and a fiscal conservative.  I am pro-life, pro-traditional family.  I am a limited government, fiscal conservative.   From my perspective, George W. Bush is not a true conservative.  He does not honor core or fundamental conservative principles.  

Consequently, I have been outspoken in my criticism of Mr. Bush.   Additionally, I believe Mr. Bush has given aid, comfort and protection to the enemy;  I am speaking of Saudi Arabia and other enemies of America.  Al Qaeda is essentially a Saudi proxy.  Saudi charities, up to the highest government level, financed bin Laden and Al Qaeda.  Bush has hidden this from the public in large part, I believe, because of his, his father&#039;s and Bush family friend&#039;s intimate financial dealings with Saudi princes.  Instead he calls these enemies our good friends.  He redacts some 28 pages of the 9/11 report that might have implicated his Saudi friends in some small way in the 9/11 atrocities in New York and Washington.  Bush arranged the exit of some 140 members of the bin Laden and Saudi Royal families only hours after the 9/11 atrocities, at a time when FAA prohibited all domestic flights.  FBI was not able to interrogate these potential witnesses.

There are conservatives like myself who believe these and similar crimes are treasonous.

I have been told by fellow Republicans, because of my criticism of  George W. Bush, I am not a good Republican.  By your definition I might be a self-hating Republican or a self-hating American.  In my view, I am a loyal Republican.  I am a loyal American.   

I say, shame on my fellow conservatives -- shame on Rush Limbaugh,  Sean Hannity and other conservatives -- for standing by George W. Bush as he has betrayed fundamental conservative princples, not to mention betrayed his nation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You wrote: “A meaningless term used by intellectual cowards. Is a person who criticizes the US government a “self-hating American”? Imagine the term applied as “a self-hating Christian” or “a self-hating Muslim”. What a farce.”</p>
<p>I think this might require further exploration.   I am a thirty-seven year registered (conservative) Republican.  I grew up in an activist Republican family.  My late father was our party chairman, state committeeman, etc.  We talked politics at the dinner table.  I am what you might call a social conservative and a fiscal conservative.  I am pro-life, pro-traditional family.  I am a limited government, fiscal conservative.   From my perspective, George W. Bush is not a true conservative.  He does not honor core or fundamental conservative principles.  </p>
<p>Consequently, I have been outspoken in my criticism of Mr. Bush.   Additionally, I believe Mr. Bush has given aid, comfort and protection to the enemy;  I am speaking of Saudi Arabia and other enemies of America.  Al Qaeda is essentially a Saudi proxy.  Saudi charities, up to the highest government level, financed bin Laden and Al Qaeda.  Bush has hidden this from the public in large part, I believe, because of his, his father&#8217;s and Bush family friend&#8217;s intimate financial dealings with Saudi princes.  Instead he calls these enemies our good friends.  He redacts some 28 pages of the 9/11 report that might have implicated his Saudi friends in some small way in the 9/11 atrocities in New York and Washington.  Bush arranged the exit of some 140 members of the bin Laden and Saudi Royal families only hours after the 9/11 atrocities, at a time when FAA prohibited all domestic flights.  FBI was not able to interrogate these potential witnesses.</p>
<p>There are conservatives like myself who believe these and similar crimes are treasonous.</p>
<p>I have been told by fellow Republicans, because of my criticism of  George W. Bush, I am not a good Republican.  By your definition I might be a self-hating Republican or a self-hating American.  In my view, I am a loyal Republican.  I am a loyal American.   </p>
<p>I say, shame on my fellow conservatives &#8212; shame on Rush Limbaugh,  Sean Hannity and other conservatives &#8212; for standing by George W. Bush as he has betrayed fundamental conservative princples, not to mention betrayed his nation.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Klein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Klein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 16:40:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeremy R. Hammond said on January 4th, 2009: &quot;Israel kidnapped Osama and Mustafa Abu Muamar on June 24, just one day before Hamas captured Gilad Shalit.....&quot;

Citing: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/5112846.stm

&quot;The Israeli military said the two brothers were members of the militant group Hamas and were planning attacks on Israel.&quot; 

My dictionary defines the word kid⋅nap -  to steal, carry off, or abduct by force or fraud, ESP. FOR USE AS A HOSTAGE OR TO EXTRACT RANSOM. 

I said: &quot;There are plenty of self-hating Jews.” 

You wrote: &quot;A meaningless term used by intellectual cowards. Is a person who criticizes the US government a “self-hating American”? Imagine the term applied as “a self-hating Christian” or “a self-hating Muslim”. What a farce.&quot;

It&#039;s not meaningless.  Nor is it intellectual cowardice; unless you consider historians like Paul Johnson intellectual cowards.  Writing about Jews like Karl Marx and Heinrich Heine Johnson wrote: &quot;Enlightenment thinkers, both French and German, argued that objectionable features of Judaism had to be erased before Jews could be free: Jews who were discriminated against accepted this, and thus directed their rage more towards the unregenerated Jew than those who persecuted them both.  The self-hatred focused on the ghetto Jew, who was of course the anti-Semitic archetype.  Heine, who really knew very little about how most Jews lived, used all the standard anti-Semitic cliche&#039;s when in self-hating mood.  Marx, who knew even less, borrowed his abuse straight from the gentile student cafe&#039;. (A History of the Jews page 349)

&quot;You wanted a source to support my remarks about how Hamas has stated it seeks a Palestinian state alongside Israel along the 1967 borders. I gave you one. So you see I was right.&quot;

Hamas is committed to the destruction of the Jewish state.  Temporary truces (hudnas) are just that; temporary.  Hamas might &#039;allow&#039; a Jewish state along the 1967 borders as a temporary tactic on the way toward its ultimate goal.  The annihilation of the Jewish state.  Just as the PLO had its &quot;phased plan&quot; for Israel&#039;s annihilation, how much more Hamas?    According to the Phased Plan, the PLO would first establish its &quot;state of Palestine&quot;  on any territory which would be evacuated &quot;by the Zionist enemy.&quot;  This new Arab state would then align itself with other &quot;confrontation states&quot; and prepare for the second stage -- the eradication of Israel in a renewed onslaught.

I wrote: “blessing Abraham is something, by the way, Mr. Hammond is not doing”

&quot;What is that supposed to mean? Worshipping YHWH and obeying the Torah (not to mention the Gospel principles of Yeshua) is something Israel is not doing.&quot;

Thus says Mr. Hammond.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeremy R. Hammond said on January 4th, 2009: &#8220;Israel kidnapped Osama and Mustafa Abu Muamar on June 24, just one day before Hamas captured Gilad Shalit&#8230;..&#8221;</p>
<p>Citing: <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/5112846.stm" rel="nofollow">http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/5112846.stm</a></p>
<p>&#8220;The Israeli military said the two brothers were members of the militant group Hamas and were planning attacks on Israel.&#8221; </p>
<p>My dictionary defines the word kid⋅nap &#8211;  to steal, carry off, or abduct by force or fraud, ESP. FOR USE AS A HOSTAGE OR TO EXTRACT RANSOM. </p>
<p>I said: &#8220;There are plenty of self-hating Jews.” </p>
<p>You wrote: &#8220;A meaningless term used by intellectual cowards. Is a person who criticizes the US government a “self-hating American”? Imagine the term applied as “a self-hating Christian” or “a self-hating Muslim”. What a farce.&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not meaningless.  Nor is it intellectual cowardice; unless you consider historians like Paul Johnson intellectual cowards.  Writing about Jews like Karl Marx and Heinrich Heine Johnson wrote: &#8220;Enlightenment thinkers, both French and German, argued that objectionable features of Judaism had to be erased before Jews could be free: Jews who were discriminated against accepted this, and thus directed their rage more towards the unregenerated Jew than those who persecuted them both.  The self-hatred focused on the ghetto Jew, who was of course the anti-Semitic archetype.  Heine, who really knew very little about how most Jews lived, used all the standard anti-Semitic cliche&#8217;s when in self-hating mood.  Marx, who knew even less, borrowed his abuse straight from the gentile student cafe&#8217;. (A History of the Jews page 349)</p>
<p>&#8220;You wanted a source to support my remarks about how Hamas has stated it seeks a Palestinian state alongside Israel along the 1967 borders. I gave you one. So you see I was right.&#8221;</p>
<p>Hamas is committed to the destruction of the Jewish state.  Temporary truces (hudnas) are just that; temporary.  Hamas might &#8216;allow&#8217; a Jewish state along the 1967 borders as a temporary tactic on the way toward its ultimate goal.  The annihilation of the Jewish state.  Just as the PLO had its &#8220;phased plan&#8221; for Israel&#8217;s annihilation, how much more Hamas?    According to the Phased Plan, the PLO would first establish its &#8220;state of Palestine&#8221;  on any territory which would be evacuated &#8220;by the Zionist enemy.&#8221;  This new Arab state would then align itself with other &#8220;confrontation states&#8221; and prepare for the second stage &#8212; the eradication of Israel in a renewed onslaught.</p>
<p>I wrote: “blessing Abraham is something, by the way, Mr. Hammond is not doing”</p>
<p>&#8220;What is that supposed to mean? Worshipping YHWH and obeying the Torah (not to mention the Gospel principles of Yeshua) is something Israel is not doing.&#8221;</p>
<p>Thus says Mr. Hammond.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Klein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Klein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 13:25:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why has Israel blocked the Red Cross from entering Gaza for 3 days? 

Why are Hamas genocidal terrorists blocking ICRC from visiting kidnapped Gilad Shalit for better than 900 days?  Why have these criminals (that you support) not allowed ICRC to establish contact between him and his family.  You defend these genocidal killers and you dare call me a racist?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why has Israel blocked the Red Cross from entering Gaza for 3 days? </p>
<p>Why are Hamas genocidal terrorists blocking ICRC from visiting kidnapped Gilad Shalit for better than 900 days?  Why have these criminals (that you support) not allowed ICRC to establish contact between him and his family.  You defend these genocidal killers and you dare call me a racist?</p>
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