Comments on: Zionism, the United States, and Hegemony in the Middle East

By: Shabnam

Shabnam — Mon, 01 Dec 2008 16:46:22 +0000

“HOW MUSLIMS ARE PERSECUTED BY ‘ZIONISTS’ ” ?

You must educate youself to know how zionism, worse than fascism, has found its way to India to mobolize the indian fascists on their side because they have natural affinity towards one another. Since the 1990′s the growth of the Hindu extremist movement has brought oppression for India’s Muslims, India’s Christians, as well as India’s oppressed castes and Dalits.
This transformation has been facilitated by BJP, The Bharatiya Janata Party founded in 1980, to recast India from the anti-colonical pro-thier world nation, to Hindu ‘nation’, under US and Israeili Zionist influence adopting neolibral market economy and has anti Palestinian stand. This transformation is against Gandhi who recognized the actions of the Zionists in the 1940s as TERRORISM. Zionism works closely with Hindutva, an racist ideology is supported by BJP, a word coined in 1923 where advocating Hinu nationalism against minorities to buy their submission using terrorism and racism. Thus, the zionism’s policy towards Palestinians and Mulims are supported by BJP. With the coming to power of the BJP in 1999, India’s independence has been compromised by influence of zionism and imperialism. BJP has embraced Israel and turned against Palestinians and other oppressive minority groups in India to establish India as ‘nation of Hindu’ like the European settlers try to establish a ‘Jewish state’ in the the heart of Arab land against the indigenous population, Palestinians, with complete cooperation of western capitals including Britain, France, Germani and the US. In India like in occupied Palestine MUSLIMS are targeted. India has had unambiguous support for the Palestinian people for decades and voted against the partition of Palestine in 1948. No country in the region voted for the Partition of Palestine including China, Greece, a western country and Christian, majority of African and Asian countries Iran included. India recognized Israel in 1950.
After India’s recognition of Israel, the Jewish Agency established an office in Mumbai to send Iraq, Afghan and European Jews to occupied Palestine. During this period over 25,000 Indian Jews, mostly from Maharashtra and some of the Kerala, immigrated to occupied land. In February 1992 Israel opened its embassy in New Delhi and in 1992 India opened its embassy in Tel-Aviv where cooperation and influence of Zionists who are working against minorities mainly, Muslims sharply increased. Since 1992 India is implimenting Israelis’ expreiences dealing with Palestinians uprising against aparthied state and its oppressive measures – in Kashmir and other places to CRUSH any struggle against Hindu extremists in EXCHANGE for the turning down of India’s backing of the Palestine cause and anti colonial stance.

http://ghadar.insaf.net/June2004/pdf/zionism.pdf

By: Rachel Golem

Rachel Golem — Mon, 01 Dec 2008 03:30:20 +0000

Dear Mr. Petras,

There are 800 million Hindus in India tonight who love to hear about how Muslims are persecuted by “Zionists”.

And to be honest, I am looking forward to a complete withdrawal of US forces from Iraq. I want to see the good people of Iraq enjoy each others company without any “Imperialist” intervention.

It’s going to be better than WWF wrestling.

Peace,
Rachel Golem
Occupied Jerusalem
Zionist Empire

By: Andrew F

Andrew F — Fri, 28 Nov 2008 12:34:06 +0000

US: the Golem par excellence!

By: bozh

bozh — Thu, 27 Nov 2008 15:58:03 +0000

just to add this: word “zonism” had duped many. but it is only a word.
khazaro-european voelken do much like nazi have done. so. abandon this word, i say, and describe what khazars r doing,
and lo and behold, not much diff than ottomans, brits, germans. italians, dutch, tatars, et al have done. if s’mone has a better elucidation, one is welcome to bring it on.thnx

By: bozh

bozh — Thu, 27 Nov 2008 15:50:12 +0000

deadbeat,
regarding my questions or anyone else’s. i say i find nothing wrong w. questions.
in fact, the bigger the obnubilator, the fewer question she asks. or as s’mone had said, He/she has all the answers and none of the questions.
as for Jews, i call these people a melange or ‘jews’. i see nothing semitic ab liebermna, chomsky, rabin, peres, et al.
in fact, most of these ‘jews’ r more antisemitic than any other folk.
as for who’s zionist, i say all imperialists r zionistic.
it is then natch to conclude that certain ethnic’s zionism is conflated w. italian, russian, amer, canadian, and so on, zionism.
i see little or no diff btw ‘jewish’ Z and amer Z or btw amer imperialism and ‘jewish’ one, thnx

By: DavidG.

DavidG. — Thu, 27 Nov 2008 05:56:15 +0000

The U.S. Constitution is based on the Iroquois Confederacy’s Great Law of Peace? I had a good laugh about that.

The U.S. is one of the biggest warmongers the world has ever seen yet its hallowed Constitution (the one that George Bush has ignored for eight years) is connected to some Great Law of Peace.

There’s quite a lot of irony there but there’ll be few Americans who’ll get it!

http://www.dangerouscreation.com

By: Deadbeat

Deadbeat — Wed, 26 Nov 2008 23:48:22 +0000

Unfortunately bozh rhetorical questions does more to obscure rather than to shine a light on the reality of the current power alignments and influences. Zionism while closely associated with Jews and Israel is not an ideology limited to Jews. Obama and Biden are clearly Zionists but they have been heavily influenced by how the power of Zionism has infiltrated and corrupts institutions of power. What is problematic as Petras points out that since Zionism is closely associated to Jews that Jews themselves must be on the forefront to confront Zionism. It is as Kim points out in his review of Petras ambivalence and vagueness by Jews towards Zionism as well as the labeling of critics of Zionism as "antisemitic" and "self-hating Jews" that has allowed it to flourish especially in the U.S. thnx

By: Deadbeat

Deadbeat — Wed, 26 Nov 2008 23:36:30 +0000

bozh writes... the constitution was written, i believe, by british people. wasn’t each also a plutocrat? The U.S. Constitution is based on the Iroquois Confederacy's Great Law of Peace.

By: bozh

bozh — Wed, 26 Nov 2008 20:14:29 +0000

the constitution was written, i believe, by british people. wasn’t each also a plutocrat? was there any people w. judaic faith (‘jews’) among them?
have any of the ‘jews’ participated in adding ‘emendments’ of and ammendments to the constitution? looks like none?
by the time khazaro-europeans arrived in US, US had already slaughtered/herded most indigenes and waged ab 100 wars.
and all wars r based on prediction, perception, lies, half truths, wishes, hatred, greed, fear, illusion of grandeur, delusions, etc.
and ‘jews’ were only marginaly involved in US affairs until, let’s say, 1950?
if that is correct, how cld have an impoverished, tiny land hijacked US governance in just 50 yrs?
suppose ‘jews’ did? which means they had help? no group of people can take a grip on fbi, cia, pentagon, WH, congress, senate, police w.o. conspiratorial help from the uncle (2-10mn plutos).
the conspirators, we assume, cldn’t have been hobos, housewife (no injury intended), indigenes, workers ( black/ white/hisp’c).
or, am i mistaken?
israel cld have never beeen established w.o. help of the judeo-christian alliance.
which included also communist countries. zionists, ‘jewish’ ones, were extremely weak military-economically in ’40 to establish anything in palestine.
but they were by far more powerful diplomatically than semites. as is the case now?
or, is now israel supported by euro-amers even more than ever? and some people evaluate it as israel hijacking all the nato countries and commands them to things?
well, anything is possible! thnx

By: zek gulag

zek gulag — Wed, 26 Nov 2008 19:55:00 +0000

… let’s get real here. amerikan foreign policy was murderous and consistent long before there was a zionazi lobby. was the lobby in on the genocide of the indigenous peoples, the slave trade, the phillipines, korea, vietnam, etc.??? this seems nothing more than another version of amerikan exceptionalism, we wouldn’t be doing these nasty things if it weren’t for the Israelies… HAH! the zionazi pitbulls would blow away in the wind if it wasn’t for our continual support, and our support is predicated on the imperial interests of the elites here being served by our loyal(?) client, not the other way around.

By: a

Wed, 26 Nov 2008 19:08:53 +0000

what’s problematic about petras’ analysis is his lack of placing israel in the proper context of US hegemonic interests. yes, the zionist lobby in america is messed up, but to believe that they ultimately control the US’s military agenda is simply delusional. the US supports israel because it’s of strategic interest to do so (see chomsky’s “fateful triangle” for more on this). i sense a very strong anti-semitic subtext to this analysis, especially when petras says things like “the rise of Judeo-fascism represents a clear and present danger to our democratic freedoms in the United States”. what about all the christian zionists who support US aid to israel? what democratic freedoms? america was an imperialist war-mongering power before it started supporting funding israel in the 60′s, and continues to do so because that’s what’s in the interest of rich white americans, only a small percentage of which are jewish. the tail does not wag the dog.

By: Deadbeat

Deadbeat — Wed, 26 Nov 2008 17:40:54 +0000

Kim thanks for the erudite review of Petra’s new book. I look forward to reading it.