Comments on: Preemptive Policing & the National Security State: Repressing Dissent at the Republican National Convention http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/11/preemptive-policing-the-national-security-state-repressing-dissent-at-the-republican-national-convention/ a radical newsletter in the struggle for peace and social justice Sun, 22 Nov 2009 11:56:41 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Hector Ramos http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/11/preemptive-policing-the-national-security-state-repressing-dissent-at-the-republican-national-convention/#comment-32336 Hector Ramos Fri, 21 Nov 2008 21:46:16 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=4800#comment-32336 It seems like politically active grassroot organizations will have to abandon their high-tech communication strategies if they want to have a fighting hope of initiating any real demonstrations on important issues. The age of writing blogs or posts or organizing online is over. We need abandon the media that makes it easier than ever for government to spy on us and infiltrate our space! It seems like politically active grassroot organizations will have to abandon their high-tech communication strategies if they want to have a fighting hope of initiating any real demonstrations on important issues. The age of writing blogs or posts or organizing online is over. We need abandon the media that makes it easier than ever for government to spy on us and infiltrate our space!

]]> By: Don Hawkins http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/11/preemptive-policing-the-national-security-state-repressing-dissent-at-the-republican-national-convention/#comment-32243 Don Hawkins Thu, 20 Nov 2008 02:31:42 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=4800#comment-32243 Maya I think. Maya I think.

]]> By: Ramsefall http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/11/preemptive-policing-the-national-security-state-repressing-dissent-at-the-republican-national-convention/#comment-32235 Ramsefall Thu, 20 Nov 2008 00:16:16 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=4800#comment-32235 Don, happy sixth day of oox lahun imix through next November! Best to you. Don,

happy sixth day of oox lahun imix through next November!

Best to you.

]]> By: Don Hawkins http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/11/preemptive-policing-the-national-security-state-repressing-dissent-at-the-republican-national-convention/#comment-32229 Don Hawkins Wed, 19 Nov 2008 22:14:03 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=4800#comment-32229 There is a new way of thinking coming in the twenty first and the next year will be key in the path it takes. There is a new way of thinking coming in the twenty first and the next year will be key in the path it takes.

]]> By: John Hatch http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/11/preemptive-policing-the-national-security-state-repressing-dissent-at-the-republican-national-convention/#comment-32222 John Hatch Wed, 19 Nov 2008 20:49:10 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=4800#comment-32222 What a sickening state of affairs. But pre-emption can be a two-edged sword. What a sickening state of affairs. But pre-emption can be a two-edged sword.

]]> By: Ron Horn http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/11/preemptive-policing-the-national-security-state-repressing-dissent-at-the-republican-national-convention/#comment-32220 Ron Horn Wed, 19 Nov 2008 20:37:48 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=4800#comment-32220 It will be of great interest to me to see if the Obama administration will, in any way shape or form, strengthen civil liberties by weakening these police state structures. I am not holding my breath. Why do I feel this way? Because he represents the same class interests as the Bush administration. Yes, there are two parties, but they both serve the same class. Those who look for substantive change when those class interests are at all threatened, are indeed fools. Yes, the ruling class, while its profit system which sucks the life out of humanity and the environment is in disarray, is indeed feeling jittery, as Bob Balkas writes. These are dangerous times. Only an organized working class, which looks to its own resources and that no longer looks to capitalist leaders "to deliver them from evil", can defend itself from them. As the system continues to come up against peak oil and environmental degradation, it will continue to wreck havoc on both humanity and the environment. Ultimately this system will be so discredited, that the owning class will be able to continue to rule only by using this police state apparatus that the Bush administration created. If Obama doesn't have the stomach to use it, he will be removed. It will be of great interest to me to see if the Obama administration will, in any way shape or form, strengthen civil liberties by weakening these police state structures. I am not holding my breath. Why do I feel this way? Because he represents the same class interests as the Bush administration. Yes, there are two parties, but they both serve the same class. Those who look for substantive change when those class interests are at all threatened, are indeed fools. Yes, the ruling class, while its profit system which sucks the life out of humanity and the environment is in disarray, is indeed feeling jittery, as Bob Balkas writes. These are dangerous times.

Only an organized working class, which looks to its own resources and that no longer looks to capitalist leaders “to deliver them from evil”, can defend itself from them. As the system continues to come up against peak oil and environmental degradation, it will continue to wreck havoc on both humanity and the environment. Ultimately this system will be so discredited, that the owning class will be able to continue to rule only by using this police state apparatus that the Bush administration created. If Obama doesn’t have the stomach to use it, he will be removed.

]]> By: bozhidar bob balkas http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/11/preemptive-policing-the-national-security-state-repressing-dissent-at-the-republican-national-convention/#comment-32214 bozhidar bob balkas Wed, 19 Nov 2008 18:29:45 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=4800#comment-32214 i am not greatly surprised that the monolithic rule is targeting also journalists. w. 98% support for it, i'd expect that the time had not come for that yet. but this may be also a good sign; oneparty system appears jittery. tx i am not greatly surprised that the monolithic rule is targeting also journalists.
w. 98% support for it, i’d expect that the time had not come for that yet.
but this may be also a good sign; oneparty system appears jittery. tx

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