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		<title>By: Max Shields</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/11/obama-preserves-our-way-of-life/#comment-32736</link>
		<dc:creator>Max Shields</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 16:33:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[anon,
I agree with your points - I don&#039; t think we&#039;ve ever had a democracy or otherwise, but I understand your context relative to today.

What&#039;s interesting is that Nixon, compared to today&#039;s standards, is actually left in terms of many of his enacted policies on the environmnet and workers&#039; rights than the Democratic Party today.

Since signing the Geneva Accord and the UN Charter all of the US warring, across the two Parties and administrations are illegal, and most certainly immoral. These are all high crimes. We&#039;ve not declared a war since WWII, and yet POTUS are allowed total impunity in spite of the Federal as well as international law breaking including crimes against humanity.

Our impeachment proceedings in the early 70s seem an anomoly given what presdents of both Parties have been allowed to get away with.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>anon,<br />
I agree with your points &#8211; I don&#8217; t think we&#8217;ve ever had a democracy or otherwise, but I understand your context relative to today.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s interesting is that Nixon, compared to today&#8217;s standards, is actually left in terms of many of his enacted policies on the environmnet and workers&#8217; rights than the Democratic Party today.</p>
<p>Since signing the Geneva Accord and the UN Charter all of the US warring, across the two Parties and administrations are illegal, and most certainly immoral. These are all high crimes. We&#8217;ve not declared a war since WWII, and yet POTUS are allowed total impunity in spite of the Federal as well as international law breaking including crimes against humanity.</p>
<p>Our impeachment proceedings in the early 70s seem an anomoly given what presdents of both Parties have been allowed to get away with.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Hawkins</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/11/obama-preserves-our-way-of-life/#comment-32734</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Hawkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 16:04:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Whatever the system in this age just maybe unplanned.  To many players looking for the answers.  I could be wrong on the answer part.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whatever the system in this age just maybe unplanned.  To many players looking for the answers.  I could be wrong on the answer part.</p>
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		<title>By: bozh</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/11/obama-preserves-our-way-of-life/#comment-32733</link>
		<dc:creator>bozh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 15:55:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[anon,
i do not think US is a democracy; it is a plutocracy to me.  this means there always had been in US one party only.
plutocrats realized  that they must have visible managers and to persuade nonruling class that it is ruled by the people for the people, they seemingly set up &#039;two parties&#039; .
that  nixon was impeached, johnson did not run again, and clinton condemned for having sex prooves that a prez is a mere manager and not a ruler.
the ruler always had been uncle sam and he cannot be split in two like politicians.
remember, clinton was responsible for deaths of babies in iraq but uncle has never punished him for that.
 truman had murdered ab 200 civ&#039;ns; again he not only was not condemned but was praised for doing the right thing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>anon,<br />
i do not think US is a democracy; it is a plutocracy to me.  this means there always had been in US one party only.<br />
plutocrats realized  that they must have visible managers and to persuade nonruling class that it is ruled by the people for the people, they seemingly set up &#8216;two parties&#8217; .<br />
that  nixon was impeached, johnson did not run again, and clinton condemned for having sex prooves that a prez is a mere manager and not a ruler.<br />
the ruler always had been uncle sam and he cannot be split in two like politicians.<br />
remember, clinton was responsible for deaths of babies in iraq but uncle has never punished him for that.<br />
 truman had murdered ab 200 civ&#8217;ns; again he not only was not condemned but was praised for doing the right thing.</p>
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		<title>By: anon</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/11/obama-preserves-our-way-of-life/#comment-32731</link>
		<dc:creator>anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 15:11:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[PS ... Nixon wasn&#039;t impeached for &#039;trivial reasons&#039;.  He was impeached for exactly the sort of power grab and attempt to create an &#039;imperial presidency&#039; we&#039;ve seen under Bush.  He was impeached for extortion of money using government power as the threat (&quot;donate to CREEP or face IRS prosecutions&quot;).  He was impeached for using those slush funds to subvert democracy.  He was impeached for the sorts of black bag break-in operations and domestic spying that are now legal under the Democrat-support Patriot Act.

Dick Cheney was on Nixon&#039;s staff at the time.  That&#039;s where he learned his dirty tricks.  Watergate and the impeachment of Nixon was the result of a still functioning democracy in America saying no to all of this.  The change in the country over 30 years is noticeable in the failure to impeach Bush for similar crimes.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PS &#8230; Nixon wasn&#8217;t impeached for &#8216;trivial reasons&#8217;.  He was impeached for exactly the sort of power grab and attempt to create an &#8216;imperial presidency&#8217; we&#8217;ve seen under Bush.  He was impeached for extortion of money using government power as the threat (&#8220;donate to CREEP or face IRS prosecutions&#8221;).  He was impeached for using those slush funds to subvert democracy.  He was impeached for the sorts of black bag break-in operations and domestic spying that are now legal under the Democrat-support Patriot Act.</p>
<p>Dick Cheney was on Nixon&#8217;s staff at the time.  That&#8217;s where he learned his dirty tricks.  Watergate and the impeachment of Nixon was the result of a still functioning democracy in America saying no to all of this.  The change in the country over 30 years is noticeable in the failure to impeach Bush for similar crimes.</p>
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		<title>By: anon</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/11/obama-preserves-our-way-of-life/#comment-32729</link>
		<dc:creator>anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 15:06:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Power and the Presidency have changed a lot since Nixon&#039;s time.  In the late 60&#039;s and early 70&#039;s, the media was independent.  Most TV stations, newspapers, networks etc were independently owned.  Ie, not subisidiaries of some larger corporation.  And, there was a distinct notion of journalistic integrity that doesn&#039;t exist today.  There was a notion of a &#039;wall&#039; between the news and advertising operations.

This allowed coverage of the civil rights movement, the anti-war movement and of reporting of Nixon&#039;s crimes that is not allowed today.  In those days, the &#039;news&#039; organizations had more freedom to decide what would be important &#039;news&#039; to the citizens and report it.

It was also a time whe Congress still had some power relative to the President.  In today&#039;s money-driven politics, the people who have the power to back a Presidential candidate with $600 million in &#039;contributions&#039; also have the power to support or destroy any congressperson.  Money now rules, where that wasn&#039;t true in the 60&#039;s.  Its much harder today for a congressperson with principles to stand by them and then count on the voters in the district to support them for that.  Especially when you factor in the above point that the media is no longer an independent source of news but instead a corporate mouthpiece.  A congressperson that tries to stand up to power the way Congress did to Nixon would not only face a set of well-financed primary and general election challenges, but also a media that would distort their views and make it very hard for such a congress person to get their own views about why they did this out to the voting public.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Power and the Presidency have changed a lot since Nixon&#8217;s time.  In the late 60&#8242;s and early 70&#8242;s, the media was independent.  Most TV stations, newspapers, networks etc were independently owned.  Ie, not subisidiaries of some larger corporation.  And, there was a distinct notion of journalistic integrity that doesn&#8217;t exist today.  There was a notion of a &#8216;wall&#8217; between the news and advertising operations.</p>
<p>This allowed coverage of the civil rights movement, the anti-war movement and of reporting of Nixon&#8217;s crimes that is not allowed today.  In those days, the &#8216;news&#8217; organizations had more freedom to decide what would be important &#8216;news&#8217; to the citizens and report it.</p>
<p>It was also a time whe Congress still had some power relative to the President.  In today&#8217;s money-driven politics, the people who have the power to back a Presidential candidate with $600 million in &#8216;contributions&#8217; also have the power to support or destroy any congressperson.  Money now rules, where that wasn&#8217;t true in the 60&#8242;s.  Its much harder today for a congressperson with principles to stand by them and then count on the voters in the district to support them for that.  Especially when you factor in the above point that the media is no longer an independent source of news but instead a corporate mouthpiece.  A congressperson that tries to stand up to power the way Congress did to Nixon would not only face a set of well-financed primary and general election challenges, but also a media that would distort their views and make it very hard for such a congress person to get their own views about why they did this out to the voting public.</p>
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		<title>By: ed strong</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/11/obama-preserves-our-way-of-life/#comment-32619</link>
		<dc:creator>ed strong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 13:14:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Greenwashing has echoes of brainwashing for me. The link&#039;s obvious.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greenwashing has echoes of brainwashing for me. The link&#8217;s obvious.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Hawkins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don Hawkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 14:27:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thursday 20 November 2008

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by: Suzanne Goldenberg, The Guardian UK


A surface mining operation in a Colorado portion of the Green River Formation. (Photo: Ray Ng / Time Life Pictures / Getty Images) 
    Oil shale mining in Rocky Mountains gets go-ahead. &quot;Midnight regulations&quot; to dismantle safeguards. 

    Washington - George Bush is working at a breakneck pace to dismantle at least 10 major environmental safeguards protecting America&#039;s wildlife, national parks and rivers before he leaves office in January.

    With barely 60 days to go until Bush hands over to Barack Obama, his White House is working methodically to weaken or reverse an array of regulations that protect America&#039;s wilderness from logging or mining operations, and compel factory farms to clean up dangerous waste.

    In the latest such move this week, Bush opened up some 800,000 hectares (2m acres) of land in Rocky Mountain states for the development of oil shale, one of the dirtiest fuels on the planet. The law goes into effect on January 17, three days before Obama takes office.

                                               Think Frank]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thursday 20 November 2008</p>
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by: Suzanne Goldenberg, The Guardian UK</p>
<p>A surface mining operation in a Colorado portion of the Green River Formation. (Photo: Ray Ng / Time Life Pictures / Getty Images)<br />
    Oil shale mining in Rocky Mountains gets go-ahead. &#8220;Midnight regulations&#8221; to dismantle safeguards. </p>
<p>    Washington &#8211; George Bush is working at a breakneck pace to dismantle at least 10 major environmental safeguards protecting America&#8217;s wildlife, national parks and rivers before he leaves office in January.</p>
<p>    With barely 60 days to go until Bush hands over to Barack Obama, his White House is working methodically to weaken or reverse an array of regulations that protect America&#8217;s wilderness from logging or mining operations, and compel factory farms to clean up dangerous waste.</p>
<p>    In the latest such move this week, Bush opened up some 800,000 hectares (2m acres) of land in Rocky Mountain states for the development of oil shale, one of the dirtiest fuels on the planet. The law goes into effect on January 17, three days before Obama takes office.</p>
<p>                                               Think Frank</p>
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		<title>By: Don Hawkins</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/11/obama-preserves-our-way-of-life/#comment-32515</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Hawkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 22:45:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And here is some Greenwash in it&#039;s purest form.

WASHINGTON, Nov 24, 2008 (BUSINESS WIRE) -- Chevron has hired a &quot;scientist&quot; affiliated with a think tank dedicated to denying the threat of global warming while it spends tens of millions of dollars on a national advertising campaign to promote a &quot;green&quot; image. 
The Chevron consultant, Douglas Southgate, is actually an &quot;environmental economist&quot; affiliated with a think tank called the Heartland Institute. Based in Chicago, Heartland promotes the idea that there is a &quot;debate&quot; about global warming despite the overwhelming scientific consensus that human activity is responsible for it. The Institute also creates research that downplays the dangers of secondhand smoke. 
Contributions to the Heartland Institute have flowed from the likes of Exxon, Phillip Morris, and the ultraconservative Scaife Foundation. The Institute stopped disclosing its funders in 2006 after it came under attack for producing tailor-made research in support of its industry supporters. 
The disclosure of Southgate&#039;s affiliation is bound to raise even more questions about Chevron&#039;s commitment to green policies, which observers say has fallen significantly behind its industry rivals. Unlike industry peers Shell and BP, Chevron has no significant human rights policy for countries where it operates and currently faces numerous environmental problems around the globe -- including a potential $16.3 billion liability for toxic dumping in Ecuador&#039;s Amazon. 
Southgate recently was quoted in news reports defending Chevron&#039;s practices in Ecuador, which included the dumping of more than 18 billion gallons of toxic waste into Amazon waterways and the abandonment of more than 900 waste pits gouged out of the jungle floor. The indigenous groups in Chevron&#039;s former concession area have seen their populations decimated and ancestral lands plagued by the toxic contamination. 
Amazonian communities have long charged that Chevron has fabricated &quot;junk science&quot; to cover up the fact thousands of soil samples produced in the Ecuador trial demonstrate life-threatening levels of contamination. An independent, court-appointed expert who reviewed 54,000 chemical sampling results recently found that 100% of Chevron&#039;s former well sites are contaminated with illegal levels of Total Petroleum Hydrocarbons. 
Chevron has tried to paper over its problems by spending millions to tout the company&#039;s new &quot;human energy&quot; slogan. 
&quot;Chevron&#039;s so-called &#039;green&#039; advertising campaign is a fraud when compared to the company&#039;s environmental record in the Amazon,&quot; said Pablo Fajardo, an Ecuadorian lawyer and Goldman Prize winner who leads the Ecuador case. 
&quot;Chevron is paying academics to distort research to hide a humanitarian and environmental catastrophe in Ecuador,&quot; said Fajardo. &quot;Their advertising budget would be better spent on solving real problems.&quot; 
Southgate is just one of the discredited experts employed by Chevron. Other questionable Chevron &quot;scientists&quot; on the Ecuador case include Ralph Marquez, a former chief lobbyist for the chemical industry in Texas, and Sara McMillen, a Chevron scientist who speaks to the media about toxicological issues without having a degree in the subject. 
About the Amazon Defense Coalition 
The Amazon Defense Coalition represents dozens of rainforest communities and five indigenous groups that inhabit Ecuador&#039;s Northern Amazon region. The mission of the Coalition is to protect the environment and secure social justice through grass roots organizing, political advocacy, and litigation. 
SOURCE: Amazon Defense Coalition

 He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Brother and that money as the indigenous groups in Chevron&#039;s former concession area have seen their populations decimated and ancestral lands plagued by the toxic contamination and of course Chevron and Exxon and on and on have decided to sell all the fossil fuels they can and good luck kids have a nice life.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And here is some Greenwash in it&#8217;s purest form.</p>
<p>WASHINGTON, Nov 24, 2008 (BUSINESS WIRE) &#8212; Chevron has hired a &#8220;scientist&#8221; affiliated with a think tank dedicated to denying the threat of global warming while it spends tens of millions of dollars on a national advertising campaign to promote a &#8220;green&#8221; image.<br />
The Chevron consultant, Douglas Southgate, is actually an &#8220;environmental economist&#8221; affiliated with a think tank called the Heartland Institute. Based in Chicago, Heartland promotes the idea that there is a &#8220;debate&#8221; about global warming despite the overwhelming scientific consensus that human activity is responsible for it. The Institute also creates research that downplays the dangers of secondhand smoke.<br />
Contributions to the Heartland Institute have flowed from the likes of Exxon, Phillip Morris, and the ultraconservative Scaife Foundation. The Institute stopped disclosing its funders in 2006 after it came under attack for producing tailor-made research in support of its industry supporters.<br />
The disclosure of Southgate&#8217;s affiliation is bound to raise even more questions about Chevron&#8217;s commitment to green policies, which observers say has fallen significantly behind its industry rivals. Unlike industry peers Shell and BP, Chevron has no significant human rights policy for countries where it operates and currently faces numerous environmental problems around the globe &#8212; including a potential $16.3 billion liability for toxic dumping in Ecuador&#8217;s Amazon.<br />
Southgate recently was quoted in news reports defending Chevron&#8217;s practices in Ecuador, which included the dumping of more than 18 billion gallons of toxic waste into Amazon waterways and the abandonment of more than 900 waste pits gouged out of the jungle floor. The indigenous groups in Chevron&#8217;s former concession area have seen their populations decimated and ancestral lands plagued by the toxic contamination.<br />
Amazonian communities have long charged that Chevron has fabricated &#8220;junk science&#8221; to cover up the fact thousands of soil samples produced in the Ecuador trial demonstrate life-threatening levels of contamination. An independent, court-appointed expert who reviewed 54,000 chemical sampling results recently found that 100% of Chevron&#8217;s former well sites are contaminated with illegal levels of Total Petroleum Hydrocarbons.<br />
Chevron has tried to paper over its problems by spending millions to tout the company&#8217;s new &#8220;human energy&#8221; slogan.<br />
&#8220;Chevron&#8217;s so-called &#8216;green&#8217; advertising campaign is a fraud when compared to the company&#8217;s environmental record in the Amazon,&#8221; said Pablo Fajardo, an Ecuadorian lawyer and Goldman Prize winner who leads the Ecuador case.<br />
&#8220;Chevron is paying academics to distort research to hide a humanitarian and environmental catastrophe in Ecuador,&#8221; said Fajardo. &#8220;Their advertising budget would be better spent on solving real problems.&#8221;<br />
Southgate is just one of the discredited experts employed by Chevron. Other questionable Chevron &#8220;scientists&#8221; on the Ecuador case include Ralph Marquez, a former chief lobbyist for the chemical industry in Texas, and Sara McMillen, a Chevron scientist who speaks to the media about toxicological issues without having a degree in the subject.<br />
About the Amazon Defense Coalition<br />
The Amazon Defense Coalition represents dozens of rainforest communities and five indigenous groups that inhabit Ecuador&#8217;s Northern Amazon region. The mission of the Coalition is to protect the environment and secure social justice through grass roots organizing, political advocacy, and litigation.<br />
SOURCE: Amazon Defense Coalition</p>
<p> He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Brother and that money as the indigenous groups in Chevron&#8217;s former concession area have seen their populations decimated and ancestral lands plagued by the toxic contamination and of course Chevron and Exxon and on and on have decided to sell all the fossil fuels they can and good luck kids have a nice life.</p>
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		<title>By: joed</title>
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		<dc:creator>joed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 22:26:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[T.Boone Pickens, the spokesperson for &quot;GREEN&quot;  wind mill power in amerika,  is an elite texas oilman.  these scumbags know what is happening and they have taken over the &quot;green&quot;  movement in amerika.  i saw him on tv doing an add. he said he needs the amerikan people to help him make amerika &#039;green&quot; .  it&#039;s a real revolution says he!  personally, i couldn&#039;t agree more, at least it is the only revolution amerika will see and T. Boone is the amerikan rebel resistance leader that ya&#039;ll have been waiting for.  now tear down the walls of this FREE SPEACH ZONE  known as Dissident Voice and join the revolution, get out in the streets and make some noise.  rejoice with T. Boone for he is the &quot;green&quot; one.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>T.Boone Pickens, the spokesperson for &#8220;GREEN&#8221;  wind mill power in amerika,  is an elite texas oilman.  these scumbags know what is happening and they have taken over the &#8220;green&#8221;  movement in amerika.  i saw him on tv doing an add. he said he needs the amerikan people to help him make amerika &#8216;green&#8221; .  it&#8217;s a real revolution says he!  personally, i couldn&#8217;t agree more, at least it is the only revolution amerika will see and T. Boone is the amerikan rebel resistance leader that ya&#8217;ll have been waiting for.  now tear down the walls of this FREE SPEACH ZONE  known as Dissident Voice and join the revolution, get out in the streets and make some noise.  rejoice with T. Boone for he is the &#8220;green&#8221; one.</p>
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		<title>By: Max Shields</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/11/obama-preserves-our-way-of-life/#comment-32508</link>
		<dc:creator>Max Shields</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 21:54:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[bozh, green washing (somewhat akin to whitewashing) is when a corporation like WalMart claims that in spite of the slave labor and destruction of the planet through excessive fossil use to transport cheap (slave made goods), they [WalMart] are &quot;green&quot; because they put solar panels on their big box stores.

This &quot;green-washing&quot; is the coopting of progressive initiatives, and undermining them through heavy doses of marketing (kinda like the way Obama became president) so that the world&#039;s major polluters claim the thrown of ECO-friendly Capitalism. Like the uber-neoliberal Tommy Friedman who grabs onto eco-sustainability to turn it into the NEXT BIG Globalized THING.

It is the ultimate cynicism. Orwellian in the truest sense, it turn all the evil into a pleasant field of lillies. It is Amerikan imperial capitalism unbound.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bozh, green washing (somewhat akin to whitewashing) is when a corporation like WalMart claims that in spite of the slave labor and destruction of the planet through excessive fossil use to transport cheap (slave made goods), they [WalMart] are &#8220;green&#8221; because they put solar panels on their big box stores.</p>
<p>This &#8220;green-washing&#8221; is the coopting of progressive initiatives, and undermining them through heavy doses of marketing (kinda like the way Obama became president) so that the world&#8217;s major polluters claim the thrown of ECO-friendly Capitalism. Like the uber-neoliberal Tommy Friedman who grabs onto eco-sustainability to turn it into the NEXT BIG Globalized THING.</p>
<p>It is the ultimate cynicism. Orwellian in the truest sense, it turn all the evil into a pleasant field of lillies. It is Amerikan imperial capitalism unbound.</p>
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		<title>By: bozh</title>
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		<dc:creator>bozh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 21:44:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[greenwashing is a new term to me. it seems to me that it had been invented after the word  &quot;whitewash&quot;;ie, to hide some dirty work.
and gren washing means covering up dirt, i take it.
hawkins is correct ab decades-long delay btw cause and effect.
or, a better way to say it wld be, causes-effects since one cannot in nature separate one from the other.
effects cause causes; causes affect effects. thnx]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>greenwashing is a new term to me. it seems to me that it had been invented after the word  &#8220;whitewash&#8221;;ie, to hide some dirty work.<br />
and gren washing means covering up dirt, i take it.<br />
hawkins is correct ab decades-long delay btw cause and effect.<br />
or, a better way to say it wld be, causes-effects since one cannot in nature separate one from the other.<br />
effects cause causes; causes affect effects. thnx</p>
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		<title>By: Don Hawkins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don Hawkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 20:13:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good films cutting edge History Channel and National Geographic Channel.  A new one I just watched on the History Channel posed the question in a film on the Universe what if George W Bush had become baseball commissioner instead of President, scientists can be very clever.  Let&#039;s see how clever this new administration is say the first six months.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good films cutting edge History Channel and National Geographic Channel.  A new one I just watched on the History Channel posed the question in a film on the Universe what if George W Bush had become baseball commissioner instead of President, scientists can be very clever.  Let&#8217;s see how clever this new administration is say the first six months.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Koontz</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/11/obama-preserves-our-way-of-life/#comment-32498</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Koontz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 18:59:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Greenwash is the present and future of the corporate propaganda model. Since celebrities and hyper-brands like Disney are another major model, our corporate overlords should combine the two and produce a Green Celebrity to expound their monstrosity. Imagine Hannah Montana as a proponent of Obama&#039;s &quot;Green Jobs&quot;.

Or a Disney film about &quot;saving the environment&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greenwash is the present and future of the corporate propaganda model. Since celebrities and hyper-brands like Disney are another major model, our corporate overlords should combine the two and produce a Green Celebrity to expound their monstrosity. Imagine Hannah Montana as a proponent of Obama&#8217;s &#8220;Green Jobs&#8221;.</p>
<p>Or a Disney film about &#8220;saving the environment&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Hawkins</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/11/obama-preserves-our-way-of-life/#comment-32485</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Hawkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 16:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[For some reason many want to forget we are out of time.  Some things will take a few hundred years to change and the last time I checked we all have about 9 years to level out CO 2.  We need to focus and beat the darkside at there own game sort of. It&#039;s there game we need to change but let&#039;s not be stupid about this.  We are out numbered because they are organized and we are not but remember in numbers it&#039;s about 300 to 1 in our favor if we can get started.  The darkside is strong nature of the beast and we have the truth and knowledge those two things are there worst enemy.  Remember 2005 and the weather well when El Nino comes back it should be a real eye opener and the darkside will spin like a top.  Think Frank the time is now and economy&#039;s come and go we will probably not get a second chance with drought, flooding, disease that&#039;s the one that will not be to good, sea level rise, plants and animals going bye bye and human&#039;s.  Food and water a problem think frank.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For some reason many want to forget we are out of time.  Some things will take a few hundred years to change and the last time I checked we all have about 9 years to level out CO 2.  We need to focus and beat the darkside at there own game sort of. It&#8217;s there game we need to change but let&#8217;s not be stupid about this.  We are out numbered because they are organized and we are not but remember in numbers it&#8217;s about 300 to 1 in our favor if we can get started.  The darkside is strong nature of the beast and we have the truth and knowledge those two things are there worst enemy.  Remember 2005 and the weather well when El Nino comes back it should be a real eye opener and the darkside will spin like a top.  Think Frank the time is now and economy&#8217;s come and go we will probably not get a second chance with drought, flooding, disease that&#8217;s the one that will not be to good, sea level rise, plants and animals going bye bye and human&#8217;s.  Food and water a problem think frank.</p>
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		<title>By: bozh</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/11/obama-preserves-our-way-of-life/#comment-32479</link>
		<dc:creator>bozh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 16:04:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[while i dislike very much to talk ab any politico and what he/she says/said/&#039;promised&#039;/or might do, i note that clinton faced impeachment for having sex and not for US crimes against iraqi children.
if a prez is as powerful as media/schooling propagate, wld clinton have tolerated the nonsense from some deluded reps?
and wld nixon have been deposed for trivial reasons if he had been that powerful?
not to mention any name, a prez is quite limited in his/her powers.
change can come in US and elsewhere when a mass of people picket churches, small business, etc.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>while i dislike very much to talk ab any politico and what he/she says/said/&#8217;promised&#8217;/or might do, i note that clinton faced impeachment for having sex and not for US crimes against iraqi children.<br />
if a prez is as powerful as media/schooling propagate, wld clinton have tolerated the nonsense from some deluded reps?<br />
and wld nixon have been deposed for trivial reasons if he had been that powerful?<br />
not to mention any name, a prez is quite limited in his/her powers.<br />
change can come in US and elsewhere when a mass of people picket churches, small business, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Hawkins</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/11/obama-preserves-our-way-of-life/#comment-32476</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Hawkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 15:40:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Frank communication with the public is essential. At present, all around the world,
governments are guilty of greenwash, an implausible approach of goals and half-measures
that will barely slow the growth of CO2. The world, not just the United States, needs an open
honest discussion of what is needed. It is a tremendous burden to place on the Presidentelect,
who seems to be the only potential candidate. The only chance seems to be if he
understands the truth – the whole truth. Hansen

Frank who is Frank? That would be us. I sure hope that some of you out there are trying to get a few million people in front of the halls of power as so far from this new guy doesn’t look good. We could all change are name to Frank, think Frank. Yes a few million yell Frank at the same time. Do you think we could get an echo down those halls? “Think Frank”. $300 billion to Citigroup, “Hallelujah”

 Now color me crazy but &quot;Think Frank&quot; could just work as a start.  Frank communication with the public is essential and as we all know that doesn&#039;t happen because the Frank communication needs to be about the very people who are in control of the communication.  Yes it has come to this.  We all used to read that this could happen well it has.  &quot;Think Frank&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frank communication with the public is essential. At present, all around the world,<br />
governments are guilty of greenwash, an implausible approach of goals and half-measures<br />
that will barely slow the growth of CO2. The world, not just the United States, needs an open<br />
honest discussion of what is needed. It is a tremendous burden to place on the Presidentelect,<br />
who seems to be the only potential candidate. The only chance seems to be if he<br />
understands the truth – the whole truth. Hansen</p>
<p>Frank who is Frank? That would be us. I sure hope that some of you out there are trying to get a few million people in front of the halls of power as so far from this new guy doesn’t look good. We could all change are name to Frank, think Frank. Yes a few million yell Frank at the same time. Do you think we could get an echo down those halls? “Think Frank”. $300 billion to Citigroup, “Hallelujah”</p>
<p> Now color me crazy but &#8220;Think Frank&#8221; could just work as a start.  Frank communication with the public is essential and as we all know that doesn&#8217;t happen because the Frank communication needs to be about the very people who are in control of the communication.  Yes it has come to this.  We all used to read that this could happen well it has.  &#8220;Think Frank&#8221;.</p>
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