Comments on: Britain’s Digital Surveillance: Hiding from Her Majesty’s “Black Boxes” http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/11/britain%e2%80%99s-digital-surveillance-hiding-from-her-majesty%e2%80%99s-black-boxes/ a radical newsletter in the struggle for peace and social justice Thu, 08 Dec 2011 15:07:30 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Tree http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/11/britain%e2%80%99s-digital-surveillance-hiding-from-her-majesty%e2%80%99s-black-boxes/#comment-31666 Tree Mon, 10 Nov 2008 00:32:51 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=4623#comment-31666 I thought Lives of Others was a really good film, Jim. I don't live in the UK but still find this a helpful article. Thank goodness for people like Christopher who can explain all the technology in a way we all understand! Big Brother and Sister are always lurking, usually with the help of regular citizens. The people of Cincinnati, Ohio just voted to allow so-called Red Light Cameras in the city. I was really upset that was passed into law. I thought Lives of Others was a really good film, Jim.

I don’t live in the UK but still find this a helpful article. Thank goodness for people like Christopher who can explain all the technology in a way we all understand!
Big Brother and Sister are always lurking, usually with the help of regular citizens. The people of Cincinnati, Ohio just voted to allow so-called Red Light Cameras in the city. I was really upset that was passed into law.

]]> By: Jim² http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/11/britain%e2%80%99s-digital-surveillance-hiding-from-her-majesty%e2%80%99s-black-boxes/#comment-31620 Jim² Sat, 08 Nov 2008 22:57:34 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=4623#comment-31620 I highly recommend the film 'The Lives of Others', it gives you a fascinating view into surveillance and how the Stasi operated in East Germany during the Soviet era. Given the immense speed of technological advances since then and the raft of legislation making snooping law, i do now honestly worry about what i say online case i'm locked up for being a subversive. Thanks for the lesson in encryption! I highly recommend the film ‘The Lives of Others’, it gives you a fascinating view into surveillance and how the Stasi operated in East Germany during the Soviet era. Given the immense speed of technological advances since then and the raft of legislation making snooping law, i do now honestly worry about what i say online case i’m locked up for being a subversive.

Thanks for the lesson in encryption!

]]> By: Michael Kenny http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/11/britain%e2%80%99s-digital-surveillance-hiding-from-her-majesty%e2%80%99s-black-boxes/#comment-31602 Michael Kenny Sat, 08 Nov 2008 21:03:55 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=4623#comment-31602 Don't forget that the silver lining to all this is that the more they monitor, the more they become swamped under a mass of data that they can never hope to exploit. Mass surveillance is actually less of a threat to freedom than surveillance of selected individuals. Don’t forget that the silver lining to all this is that the more they monitor, the more they become swamped under a mass of data that they can never hope to exploit. Mass surveillance is actually less of a threat to freedom than surveillance of selected individuals.

]]> By: Erroll http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/11/britain%e2%80%99s-digital-surveillance-hiding-from-her-majesty%e2%80%99s-black-boxes/#comment-31601 Erroll Sat, 08 Nov 2008 20:22:04 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=4623#comment-31601 PBS recently had on a program very similar to what this article describes, which was a five part series entitled The Last Enemy. It is set in the not so distant future in England and centers on a program called T.I.A. [Total Information Awareness]. At the end of the series , all citizens would soon be programmed with a microchip that would be implanted in their bodies so that they could be tracked though the government claimed that the citizens could put T.I.A. to many beneficial uses. PBS recently had on a program very similar to what this article describes, which was a five part series entitled The Last Enemy. It is set in the not so distant future in England and centers on a program called T.I.A. [Total Information Awareness]. At the end of the series , all citizens would soon be programmed with a microchip that would be implanted in their bodies so that they could be tracked though the government claimed that the citizens could put T.I.A. to many beneficial uses.

]]> By: Don Hawkins http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/11/britain%e2%80%99s-digital-surveillance-hiding-from-her-majesty%e2%80%99s-black-boxes/#comment-31591 Don Hawkins Sat, 08 Nov 2008 17:52:23 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=4623#comment-31591 There was of course no way of knowing whether you were being watched at any given moment. How often, or on what system, the Thought Police plugged in on any individual wire was guesswork. It was even conceivable that they watched everybody all the time. But at any rate they could plug in your wire whenever they wanted to. You had to live—did live, from habit that became instinct—in the assumption that every sound you made was overheard, and, except in darkness, every movement scrutinized." Orwell 1984 Are we there yet? Not in that way yet but the thought police well think on a given minute TV what are people told to do? Buy this or think this call now. I have to admit with what is coming what will the thought police do in a 10 year or longer recession and then of course in the next year if it looks like what needs to be done to slow climate change doesn't happen how will the thought police handle that one. "We're bored. We're all bored now. But has it ever occurred to you, Wally, that the process that creates this boredom that we see in the world now, may very well be a self perpetuating, unconscious form of brainwashing created by a world totalitarian government based on money and that all of this is much more dangerous than one thinks, and it's not just a question of individual survival, Wally, but that somebody who's bored is asleep, and somebody who's asleep will not say no?" MY DINNER WITH ANDRE I have a feeling in the coming years it will be easer to wake people up from that sleep. There was of course no way of knowing whether you were being watched at any given moment. How often, or on what system, the Thought Police plugged in on any individual wire was guesswork. It was even conceivable that they watched everybody all the time. But at any rate they could plug in your wire whenever they wanted to. You had to live—did live, from habit that became instinct—in the assumption that every sound you made was overheard, and, except in darkness, every movement scrutinized.” Orwell 1984

Are we there yet? Not in that way yet but the thought police well think on a given minute TV what are people told to do? Buy this or think this call now. I have to admit with what is coming what will the thought police do in a 10 year or longer recession and then of course in the next year if it looks like what needs to be done to slow climate change doesn’t happen how will the thought police handle that one.

“We’re bored. We’re all bored now. But has it ever occurred to you, Wally, that the process that creates this boredom that we see in the world now, may very well be a self perpetuating, unconscious form of brainwashing created by a world totalitarian government based on money and that all of this is much more dangerous than one thinks, and it’s not just a question of individual survival, Wally, but that somebody who’s bored is asleep, and somebody who’s asleep will not say no?” MY DINNER WITH ANDRE

I have a feeling in the coming years it will be easer to wake people up from that sleep.

]]> By: Tom Burghardt http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/11/britain%e2%80%99s-digital-surveillance-hiding-from-her-majesty%e2%80%99s-black-boxes/#comment-31583 Tom Burghardt Sat, 08 Nov 2008 16:02:58 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=4623#comment-31583 Excellent piece and solid recommendations, Christopher. The same data breeches we've read about in the UK are also happening here with increasing frequency in the US. Excellent piece and solid recommendations, Christopher. The same data breeches we’ve read about in the UK are also happening here with increasing frequency in the US.

]]> By: Michael http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/11/britain%e2%80%99s-digital-surveillance-hiding-from-her-majesty%e2%80%99s-black-boxes/#comment-31581 Michael Sat, 08 Nov 2008 15:21:49 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=4623#comment-31581 It's time we had more advice on eluding the survellance state, considering how likely Parliament are in waving this through. It’s time we had more advice on eluding the survellance state, considering how likely Parliament are in waving this through.

]]> By: Bob http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/11/britain%e2%80%99s-digital-surveillance-hiding-from-her-majesty%e2%80%99s-black-boxes/#comment-31578 Bob Sat, 08 Nov 2008 14:18:37 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=4623#comment-31578 Didn't the real Cardinal Richelieu (pardon the spelling) say something about taking the most patriotic man in the kingdom of France, and within six sentences have enough cause to hang him? Didn’t the real Cardinal Richelieu (pardon the spelling) say something about taking the most patriotic man in the kingdom of France, and within six sentences have enough cause to hang him?

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