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		<title>By: AJ Nasreddin</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/10/tying-the-room-together-darpas-project-gandalf/#comment-30511</link>
		<dc:creator>AJ Nasreddin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Oct 2008 14:49:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul, 2 sound-bites for you:

It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from its government.
- Thomas Paine

If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be.
- Thomas Jefferson</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul, 2 sound-bites for you:</p>
<p>It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from its government.<br />
- Thomas Paine</p>
<p>If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be.<br />
- Thomas Jefferson</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/10/tying-the-room-together-darpas-project-gandalf/#comment-30504</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Oct 2008 11:16:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Try living in a wild area without society, and you&#039;ll  find out what you&#039;re made of. You&#039;ll learn self reliance intestinal fortitude, and how important it is to cover you but. So if you think America is so horrible leave. Go live in the  Artic. No one cares what you do there.Even the eskimos have given into greed their in bed with Deberrs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Try living in a wild area without society, and you&#8217;ll  find out what you&#8217;re made of. You&#8217;ll learn self reliance intestinal fortitude, and how important it is to cover you but. So if you think America is so horrible leave. Go live in the  Artic. No one cares what you do there.Even the eskimos have given into greed their in bed with Deberrs.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/10/tying-the-room-together-darpas-project-gandalf/#comment-30502</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Oct 2008 11:00:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are all miss informed . Animals have the right to be eaten, and political correctness has cut off the average white mans balls. If you can&#039;t put your hand over your heart when they sing the national anthem get out of our country scumbag! Peta is a bunch of terrorist. I am a hunter, and they want to tell me it is wrong. They suck and can pound sand. Well do I have something to tell them I am an animal, and plant psyic plants feel pain when you eat them alive salt burns their eyes, and boiling them allive is cruel. Stop tourturing plants what did they ever do to you! They don&#039;t like it! I am like dr.dolittle animals know that their purpose is for food and clothing. They are fine with their destiny. It is a companies job is to make money, and turn the economy. Get in their way and get you johnson kicked in the dirt. It has been that way for a very long time several hundred years. The nwo is a  kgb myth used to demoralize American citizens. This is what they are fighting secret agents from foreign governments and jerk groups like peta. Most of the stuff on you tube is created by soviet, hesbala, chineese, or other foreign anti american sources. Get a grip on reality. Wake up and smell the coffee. Do something good for your country. Go fishing fish love being sufocated to death. They love the rush. I have been shot, and stabbed it dosent hurt that bad unless you&#039;re a pussy.  America is so civilized there are no animals in the inner cities, or in the boondox. Yeah it really sucks, but it really is not that bad. The name of the game for individuals, corporations, and governments is cover  your tush that is all they are trying to do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are all miss informed . Animals have the right to be eaten, and political correctness has cut off the average white mans balls. If you can&#8217;t put your hand over your heart when they sing the national anthem get out of our country scumbag! Peta is a bunch of terrorist. I am a hunter, and they want to tell me it is wrong. They suck and can pound sand. Well do I have something to tell them I am an animal, and plant psyic plants feel pain when you eat them alive salt burns their eyes, and boiling them allive is cruel. Stop tourturing plants what did they ever do to you! They don&#8217;t like it! I am like dr.dolittle animals know that their purpose is for food and clothing. They are fine with their destiny. It is a companies job is to make money, and turn the economy. Get in their way and get you johnson kicked in the dirt. It has been that way for a very long time several hundred years. The nwo is a  kgb myth used to demoralize American citizens. This is what they are fighting secret agents from foreign governments and jerk groups like peta. Most of the stuff on you tube is created by soviet, hesbala, chineese, or other foreign anti american sources. Get a grip on reality. Wake up and smell the coffee. Do something good for your country. Go fishing fish love being sufocated to death. They love the rush. I have been shot, and stabbed it dosent hurt that bad unless you&#8217;re a pussy.  America is so civilized there are no animals in the inner cities, or in the boondox. Yeah it really sucks, but it really is not that bad. The name of the game for individuals, corporations, and governments is cover  your tush that is all they are trying to do.</p>
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		<title>By: AJ Nasreddin</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/10/tying-the-room-together-darpas-project-gandalf/#comment-30443</link>
		<dc:creator>AJ Nasreddin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 18:46:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bob, the skiing for me will always be at Sun Valley.

As far as conspiracies go, the good ones are always too mysterious until they come out of the closet. Right and Left politics in America are almost the same – and from an outside perspective, many say most of American politics seems to be to the right of center. Some say Obama looks pretty rightwing. Anyway, it seems most of the people in politics are working together – despite any supposed party loyalties.

Maybe the shadowy conspirators are the corporations, eh? International Corporations – New World Order? It’d make business sense anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob, the skiing for me will always be at Sun Valley.</p>
<p>As far as conspiracies go, the good ones are always too mysterious until they come out of the closet. Right and Left politics in America are almost the same – and from an outside perspective, many say most of American politics seems to be to the right of center. Some say Obama looks pretty rightwing. Anyway, it seems most of the people in politics are working together – despite any supposed party loyalties.</p>
<p>Maybe the shadowy conspirators are the corporations, eh? International Corporations – New World Order? It’d make business sense anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/10/tying-the-room-together-darpas-project-gandalf/#comment-30394</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 12:42:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AJ;
No, my real name is Robert. 

Vail, Sun Valley,Teluride (spelling?), Big Sky, Mount Hood, I could go on, the point being; There is a lot of great skiing available to those who desire it.

Since the left seems poised to assume power in the US. Why would the right set up a police state for them? Seems rather silly to me, unless they&#039;re all just pawns in the &quot;World Wide Jewish Conspiracy&quot;!!!!

And finally no I&#039;m not one of those &quot;psych-ops&quot; guys, I do know a retire one though.

Bob</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AJ;<br />
No, my real name is Robert. </p>
<p>Vail, Sun Valley,Teluride (spelling?), Big Sky, Mount Hood, I could go on, the point being; There is a lot of great skiing available to those who desire it.</p>
<p>Since the left seems poised to assume power in the US. Why would the right set up a police state for them? Seems rather silly to me, unless they&#8217;re all just pawns in the &#8220;World Wide Jewish Conspiracy&#8221;!!!!</p>
<p>And finally no I&#8217;m not one of those &#8220;psych-ops&#8221; guys, I do know a retire one though.</p>
<p>Bob</p>
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		<title>By: AJ Nasreddin</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/10/tying-the-room-together-darpas-project-gandalf/#comment-30195</link>
		<dc:creator>AJ Nasreddin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 15:59:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bob, no one needs to name names. All you have to do is see the infrastructure being put in place, the technologies prepared, and the general actions of the government – than ask: “What the hell is all this for?” It’s being built in America and not Iraq, Afghanistan, or Darfur – so they aint going to use it over there. If you include a study of history in your examination, then you’d have to conclude that shite is going to hit sooner or later. 

Drew, you have a very naïve understanding of what a police state is. It’s almost always about keeping the people in power rich and happy while the rest live in their excrement. America has been anti-eco, pro-fast food, and pro-corp. You actually think a police state is just going to do a 180?

By the way Bob – is that your real name? Are you one of those involved in psych-ops? If you never even made it to Vail, you must have low security clearance – the real skiing is at Sun Valley.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob, no one needs to name names. All you have to do is see the infrastructure being put in place, the technologies prepared, and the general actions of the government – than ask: “What the hell is all this for?” It’s being built in America and not Iraq, Afghanistan, or Darfur – so they aint going to use it over there. If you include a study of history in your examination, then you’d have to conclude that shite is going to hit sooner or later. </p>
<p>Drew, you have a very naïve understanding of what a police state is. It’s almost always about keeping the people in power rich and happy while the rest live in their excrement. America has been anti-eco, pro-fast food, and pro-corp. You actually think a police state is just going to do a 180?</p>
<p>By the way Bob – is that your real name? Are you one of those involved in psych-ops? If you never even made it to Vail, you must have low security clearance – the real skiing is at Sun Valley.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/10/tying-the-room-together-darpas-project-gandalf/#comment-30176</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 00:56:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Timber:

I understand what top secret means, since I had one of those clearances a few years back.

I note: You appear to be  even denser than the average DV reader, which is quite an accomplishment,  I&#039;m sure your mother is proud.

I don&#039;t recall writing anything about hate, but I guess you know more about what I wrote than I do.  And since I&#039;m at it you forgot to call me homophobic. Try and get it right next time!

Besides, no one has yet identified the conspirators by name, and I&#039;m very anxious to know.

Good evening, Bob</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Timber:</p>
<p>I understand what top secret means, since I had one of those clearances a few years back.</p>
<p>I note: You appear to be  even denser than the average DV reader, which is quite an accomplishment,  I&#8217;m sure your mother is proud.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t recall writing anything about hate, but I guess you know more about what I wrote than I do.  And since I&#8217;m at it you forgot to call me homophobic. Try and get it right next time!</p>
<p>Besides, no one has yet identified the conspirators by name, and I&#8217;m very anxious to know.</p>
<p>Good evening, Bob</p>
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		<title>By: Timber</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/10/tying-the-room-together-darpas-project-gandalf/#comment-30173</link>
		<dc:creator>Timber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 22:42:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bob--

Like most phony &quot;conservatives,&quot; you claim to hate &quot;big government&quot; only when it cares for the sick or the poor; when it props up the stock market, kills brown people, or uses force against the kind of movements that made America a decent place in spite of fascists, bigots, warmongers, and their attendant gold-diggers, you are big government&#039;s advocate.   And it&#039;s not just that right-wingers are hypocrites, although they are; they&#039;re assholes--people who feel no shame about choosing their own vanity and luxury and bigotry over common human decency.  

You mock the idea of ideas being made behind closed doors, or of any kind of &quot;conspiracy,&quot; but I have no doubt that you believe in defending industrial trade secrets (with state violence), or protecting the military and intelligence communities from any kind of scrutiny (with state violence) for fear that it might reveal them for the cheap goons, thugs, and corporate whores they are.   What the f*ck do you think &quot;top secret&quot; or &quot;classified&quot; mean?  Do you really think it&#039;s all to keep some foreign boogeyman from finding out what&#039;s going on?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob&#8211;</p>
<p>Like most phony &#8220;conservatives,&#8221; you claim to hate &#8220;big government&#8221; only when it cares for the sick or the poor; when it props up the stock market, kills brown people, or uses force against the kind of movements that made America a decent place in spite of fascists, bigots, warmongers, and their attendant gold-diggers, you are big government&#8217;s advocate.   And it&#8217;s not just that right-wingers are hypocrites, although they are; they&#8217;re assholes&#8211;people who feel no shame about choosing their own vanity and luxury and bigotry over common human decency.  </p>
<p>You mock the idea of ideas being made behind closed doors, or of any kind of &#8220;conspiracy,&#8221; but I have no doubt that you believe in defending industrial trade secrets (with state violence), or protecting the military and intelligence communities from any kind of scrutiny (with state violence) for fear that it might reveal them for the cheap goons, thugs, and corporate whores they are.   What the f*ck do you think &#8220;top secret&#8221; or &#8220;classified&#8221; mean?  Do you really think it&#8217;s all to keep some foreign boogeyman from finding out what&#8217;s going on?</p>
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		<title>By: Drew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Drew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 21:39:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Surprising hearing NWO paranoia spewing out of the leftwing, it usually comes from the cooky Christian right. Of course there is a key difference: the right claims big government (and satan) is behind the coming police state. The left claims private corporations and neocons are behind the coming police state. So basically its left or right on the fringe. 

Anyway, if this fabled police state comes I EMBRACE it. Not only will the police state clean up the streets by executing parasites from our population, but they will likely be eco-friendly and force everyone to go green. Maybe they will outlaw freedom of speech so that idiots won&#039;t be able to spew worthless knowledge and corporations won&#039;t be able to sell us useless and harmful products. Even better, they should require everyone to exercise, outlaw fast food, and wear business suits. No more ugly people left in America!  I mean really, is fascism the nightmare everyone says it is? Of course not. Mussolini made the trains run on time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Surprising hearing NWO paranoia spewing out of the leftwing, it usually comes from the cooky Christian right. Of course there is a key difference: the right claims big government (and satan) is behind the coming police state. The left claims private corporations and neocons are behind the coming police state. So basically its left or right on the fringe. </p>
<p>Anyway, if this fabled police state comes I EMBRACE it. Not only will the police state clean up the streets by executing parasites from our population, but they will likely be eco-friendly and force everyone to go green. Maybe they will outlaw freedom of speech so that idiots won&#8217;t be able to spew worthless knowledge and corporations won&#8217;t be able to sell us useless and harmful products. Even better, they should require everyone to exercise, outlaw fast food, and wear business suits. No more ugly people left in America!  I mean really, is fascism the nightmare everyone says it is? Of course not. Mussolini made the trains run on time.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 21:27:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tom:
Your very articulate but you don&#039;t seem to think things through.

So all these evil people who conspire against us are who?

Don&#039;t tell me let me guess. I&#039;ll bet they&#039;re the Neocons (otherwise known as Jews)! They are the sinister  black hand controlling world events. And they constantly spy upon unsuspecting civilians such as us, collect data and control our lives.

Oh and lastly,since you know all about their  nefarious schemes. Why haven&#039;t you been snatched up and dealt with? Or did the aliens already release you?

I&#039;m sorry but I find this quite amusing. 
Bob.

PS. I have never skied at Vail, but I&#039;ve been told it is great. I&#039;d like to try it someday.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom:<br />
Your very articulate but you don&#8217;t seem to think things through.</p>
<p>So all these evil people who conspire against us are who?</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t tell me let me guess. I&#8217;ll bet they&#8217;re the Neocons (otherwise known as Jews)! They are the sinister  black hand controlling world events. And they constantly spy upon unsuspecting civilians such as us, collect data and control our lives.</p>
<p>Oh and lastly,since you know all about their  nefarious schemes. Why haven&#8217;t you been snatched up and dealt with? Or did the aliens already release you?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry but I find this quite amusing.<br />
Bob.</p>
<p>PS. I have never skied at Vail, but I&#8217;ve been told it is great. I&#8217;d like to try it someday.</p>
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		<title>By: Stonefruit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stonefruit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 03:59:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been tracking the arrival of the technotronic police state in Amerikkka intently since 2002.  The technology, the law, the nifty new &quot;less lethal&quot; weapons, robot guns, all of it.  Everything Zbiggy said in &quot;the Technotronic Era&quot; seem to finally be in place and operational.  Just the finishing touches now.

What are all of these goodies for?  Definitely not for keeping hard-workin&#039;, god-fearin&#039; good Murkins safe from the Emmanuel bin Ladens of the world.

Obviously the targets domestically are activists and their ilk.

But now that it&#039;s here, I&#039;m of two minds about it.  Could be that as long as beer, gas and basic cable remain somewhat affordable, most of the people will continue not giving a shit about anything other than their own stressed-out, overweight, overworked, consumerist zombie lives and they will either sit back and do nothing - or else cheer - as The Man picks off all of the activists with all of his new gadgetry.  

I&#039;m sure they&#039;ve already got their lists.  The &quot;legal&quot; (sic) and quasi-legal infrastructure is in place.  Homeland Security has their ENDGAME plan (charming title).  All of the COG and false flag terror - ooops - I mean emergency response exercises, that May 2008 federal alphabet soup multi agency raid on the meat packing plant in Iowa, and using the JTTPs everywhere to federalize local police forces to harass vegans and other nefarious types have let them out the kinks.  The 3rd Infantry Division’s 1st Brigade Combat Team just arrived to provide the muscle with all of their less lethal toys in tow. 

Really, there are only maybe 50,000 of us floating around.  How hard would it be?  KBR has already built our rooms.

Then there&#039;s what Mos Def said awhile back.  &quot;The wanna think they got that all seeing eye in the sky.  They can&#039;t really do none of that.  They just wishin&#039;&quot;

Technologically, militarily, etcly, they can do that.  They ain&#039;t &quot;just wishin&#039;.&quot;  But it seems to me possible that now that the illuminati seem poised on the brink of realizing their ancient, millennia old dream of total pan-optic control, the very attempt to use it will instead manifest the absolutely insane amount of hubris, injustice and general venality require to even begin attempting to realize this evil dream and all of the karmic retribution due them will bring the entire edifice crashing down on their fucking heads.

The ideas and aspirations of the &quot;abnormal&quot; &quot;enemy combatant&quot; activist types presently targeted by the pan-opticon of TPTB - those with ideas and aspirations of sanity, peace, social justice, sustainable futures and the like - may suddenly start to seem very attractive and sensible to the masses when the feds can&#039;t keep cooking the books Enron-style, the Amerikkka economy collapses, Amerikkka&#039;s $56 trillion debt (which includes social security) is defaulted upon, TPTB give us a third war of choice, and the lack of any natural resources to buy or steal anywhere drops the floor falls out from under the much vaunted &quot;standard of living&quot; Amerikkkan people (a standard of living which was never more than crumbs off the rich man&#039;s banquet table anyway).  

The people may notice.  They may get restless.  Pitchforks and torches may be reached for. 

Or else I&#039;ll see you in the camps.  I hope we have cable at least.

Always great stuff, Tom.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been tracking the arrival of the technotronic police state in Amerikkka intently since 2002.  The technology, the law, the nifty new &#8220;less lethal&#8221; weapons, robot guns, all of it.  Everything Zbiggy said in &#8220;the Technotronic Era&#8221; seem to finally be in place and operational.  Just the finishing touches now.</p>
<p>What are all of these goodies for?  Definitely not for keeping hard-workin&#8217;, god-fearin&#8217; good Murkins safe from the Emmanuel bin Ladens of the world.</p>
<p>Obviously the targets domestically are activists and their ilk.</p>
<p>But now that it&#8217;s here, I&#8217;m of two minds about it.  Could be that as long as beer, gas and basic cable remain somewhat affordable, most of the people will continue not giving a shit about anything other than their own stressed-out, overweight, overworked, consumerist zombie lives and they will either sit back and do nothing &#8211; or else cheer &#8211; as The Man picks off all of the activists with all of his new gadgetry.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure they&#8217;ve already got their lists.  The &#8220;legal&#8221; (sic) and quasi-legal infrastructure is in place.  Homeland Security has their ENDGAME plan (charming title).  All of the COG and false flag terror &#8211; ooops &#8211; I mean emergency response exercises, that May 2008 federal alphabet soup multi agency raid on the meat packing plant in Iowa, and using the JTTPs everywhere to federalize local police forces to harass vegans and other nefarious types have let them out the kinks.  The 3rd Infantry Division’s 1st Brigade Combat Team just arrived to provide the muscle with all of their less lethal toys in tow. </p>
<p>Really, there are only maybe 50,000 of us floating around.  How hard would it be?  KBR has already built our rooms.</p>
<p>Then there&#8217;s what Mos Def said awhile back.  &#8220;The wanna think they got that all seeing eye in the sky.  They can&#8217;t really do none of that.  They just wishin&#8217;&#8221;</p>
<p>Technologically, militarily, etcly, they can do that.  They ain&#8217;t &#8220;just wishin&#8217;.&#8221;  But it seems to me possible that now that the illuminati seem poised on the brink of realizing their ancient, millennia old dream of total pan-optic control, the very attempt to use it will instead manifest the absolutely insane amount of hubris, injustice and general venality require to even begin attempting to realize this evil dream and all of the karmic retribution due them will bring the entire edifice crashing down on their fucking heads.</p>
<p>The ideas and aspirations of the &#8220;abnormal&#8221; &#8220;enemy combatant&#8221; activist types presently targeted by the pan-opticon of TPTB &#8211; those with ideas and aspirations of sanity, peace, social justice, sustainable futures and the like &#8211; may suddenly start to seem very attractive and sensible to the masses when the feds can&#8217;t keep cooking the books Enron-style, the Amerikkka economy collapses, Amerikkka&#8217;s $56 trillion debt (which includes social security) is defaulted upon, TPTB give us a third war of choice, and the lack of any natural resources to buy or steal anywhere drops the floor falls out from under the much vaunted &#8220;standard of living&#8221; Amerikkkan people (a standard of living which was never more than crumbs off the rich man&#8217;s banquet table anyway).  </p>
<p>The people may notice.  They may get restless.  Pitchforks and torches may be reached for. </p>
<p>Or else I&#8217;ll see you in the camps.  I hope we have cable at least.</p>
<p>Always great stuff, Tom.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Burghardt</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/10/tying-the-room-together-darpas-project-gandalf/#comment-30127</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Burghardt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 02:16:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are these the same &quot;good guys&quot; who infiltrate and disrupt antiwar groups; racially profile &quot;suspect&quot; ethnicities; steal, loot and plunder entire economies; compile petabyte-size databases (one quadrillion bytes) on ordinary Americans; invade, bomb and destroy countries at will that have done us no harm; indefinitely detain and torture prisoners because the president said its &quot;ok&quot;?

Are these the &quot;good guys&quot; you&#039;re talking about here? The high-tech Mengeles who love their mochas at 165 degrees, can&#039;t wait to get their hands on the latest Infinity or BMW coupe? Ski Vail religiously?

No, Bob, what&#039;s &quot;amazing&quot; is that there are people out there (just like you!) who can&#039;t or won&#039;t, see the direction things are going, proverbial frogs in the pot of water as the temperature&#039;s slowly turned up, oh so gradually, imperceptibly really, until...

Now that&#039;s amazing!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are these the same &#8220;good guys&#8221; who infiltrate and disrupt antiwar groups; racially profile &#8220;suspect&#8221; ethnicities; steal, loot and plunder entire economies; compile petabyte-size databases (one quadrillion bytes) on ordinary Americans; invade, bomb and destroy countries at will that have done us no harm; indefinitely detain and torture prisoners because the president said its &#8220;ok&#8221;?</p>
<p>Are these the &#8220;good guys&#8221; you&#8217;re talking about here? The high-tech Mengeles who love their mochas at 165 degrees, can&#8217;t wait to get their hands on the latest Infinity or BMW coupe? Ski Vail religiously?</p>
<p>No, Bob, what&#8217;s &#8220;amazing&#8221; is that there are people out there (just like you!) who can&#8217;t or won&#8217;t, see the direction things are going, proverbial frogs in the pot of water as the temperature&#8217;s slowly turned up, oh so gradually, imperceptibly really, until&#8230;</p>
<p>Now that&#8217;s amazing!</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/10/tying-the-room-together-darpas-project-gandalf/#comment-30125</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 00:42:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let me see if I get this correct.

 Develop a hand held device that allows the good guys to track down the bad guys. 
 From there the good guys can arrest or eliminate the bad guy. 
And this is bad?

Amazing!</description>
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<p> Develop a hand held device that allows the good guys to track down the bad guys.<br />
 From there the good guys can arrest or eliminate the bad guy.<br />
And this is bad?</p>
<p>Amazing!</p>
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		<title>By: Arch Stanton</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/10/tying-the-room-together-darpas-project-gandalf/#comment-30106</link>
		<dc:creator>Arch Stanton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 18:57:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s a quite a grand Orwellian vision of the future; truly heartwarming.  For a bit of a different take on these hideous nazi schemes see below.

http://globalguerrillas.typepad.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s a quite a grand Orwellian vision of the future; truly heartwarming.  For a bit of a different take on these hideous nazi schemes see below.</p>
<p><a href="http://globalguerrillas.typepad.com/" rel="nofollow">http://globalguerrillas.typepad.com/</a></p>
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