The Opium of the Masses

This November, Americans face a choice. But the choice not between John McCain or Barak Obama; it is between submitting to the will of the corporate-military establishment or taking a moral stand in boycotting their rigged institutions of fake democracy.

Democracy, in any meaningful sense, is a system that allows people to have a say in decisions to the degree that they are affected. Do we have that? With popular support for the Bush administration continually hovering at around 20% and support for the mostly Democratic congress struggling to maintain double digits, you can decide whether we have a democratic system or not for yourself.

They tell us to vote if we care about the economy. Vote for whom? Obama could not reiterate enough times in the “debate” how much he “agreed” with McCain on the issue of the near trillion dollar Wall Street bailout, despite overwhelming public opposition to it. The message to the public was clear: “We don’t care what you think. Our job is to protect the wealth of those who own the country, not those who built it.”

They tell us to vote if we care about war, foreign policy, and the horrendous image of the US around the world. Vote for Obama or McCain, both who vow to enact a “surge” of US occupying forces into Afghanistan, in spite of the sharp rise in US-NATO bombings of civilians, most notably the massacre of 90 innocent people in late August, two thirds of which were under the age of 15.

We can vote on Iraq, but our choice is not between war and peace. The choice is between two war strategies. One continues the Bush-Cheney-Rice plan, and the other entails significant US troops, privately contracted mercenaries, and the maintenance of extravagant foreign (US) military bases, not to mention potential US operations in the future in Iraq. Both plans continue the aggressive war against the wishes of the Iraqi public, the American public, and the international community.

Not to be outdone by the Maverick’s burning passion for imperial violence, liberal Obama has declared that he strongly supports military strikes in Pakistan, further threatening the already trembling stability of the region by violating sovereign territory with killings and assaults.

Should we vote if we care about peace in Israel-Palestine, a conflict with global implications? Unlike the slight deviations of policy mentioned above between those who wish to rule over us, we have a truly bipartisan commitment to continue blocking a peaceful settlement through providing the overwhelming military, economic, and diplomatic support for the US-Israeli illegal military occupation of Palestinian land, illegal colonial settlement expansion, and the starvation and imprisonment of the 1.5 million human beings trying to stay alive in the Gaza Strip.

Either way we vote, we give money to kill Palestinians, support Israeli terror, and avoid peace based on international law and human rights. That has been US policy for decades.

Turning to the health care crisis, both candidates refuse to recognize what has been the population’s wish for decades: the abolition of for-profit healthcare. Thousands of insured Americans are going to die in the next four years because both candidates refuse to support preexisting legislation that guarantees all necessary medical treatment to everyone.1

America has the most prisoners of any country in the world. Our corporate built prisons are a reflection and symbol of a violently unequal and racist society where black men are incarcerated at a rate of nearly 400% more than whites. Black men in America are locked up at a rate nearly six times that of Black men under the notorious South African Apartheid regime in the early 90s.2

Our prisons are filled with the poor and disenfranchised: social conditions that transcend race in American dungeons. This socioeconomic/human rights issue is off the debating table. Neither exclusively Democratic nor Republican, this is an American policy.

Let us not forget either, that a vote for either presidential hopeful is a clear declaration of support for the continued Bush-Cheney anti-constitution program of illegal spying and wiretapping of American citizens. Are we really willing to accept this as a permanent American policy?

Elections in the US are nothing more than ratifications of illegitimate power and approval of concentrated wealth. So long as we continue to rationalize our vote by selecting the “lesser of two evils” vying for Chief Terrorist Commander and Upholder of Elite Interests, we will be giving our tacit approval to and consent of the continued human rights violations committed by the bipartisan power structure.

This business of selecting indentured servants of existing power is more symbolic as a means of conquest of the popular will rather than that of democracy. Perhaps we were never taught that the wonderful advancements our country has made over the years came as a result of popular struggle, not electoral politics.3

When we place our political energy into elections, power and privilege always win while our movements die. In our country, voting is the opium of the masses.

When we cast our ballots for the McCains and Obamas of this country, blood continues to be shed on the battlefields of justice, not only around the world as the US continues its imperial crusade to protect the world from the threat of democracy, but at home as well in America’s prisons, hospitals, factories, courts, ghettos, working neighborhoods—in essence, on America’s “main street.”

We cannot be, in good moral conscience, participants in this deceitful and superficial process legitimizing crimes of the powerful and an economic system erected for the wealthy. “After all, is there not a sort of blood shed when the conscience is wounded?”4

Yes, let us make a choice in November, a choice to stop “tinkering with the machinery” of the Washington-Wall Street establishment of exploitation and violence and commit ourselves to taking matters into our own hands to bring about self-determination and justice for our countrymen/women and our fellow human beings around the world.5

  1. House Resolution (H.R.) 676 is the bill introduced in February of 2005 by Congressman John Conyers (D-MI) which guarantees single payer, not for profit, healthcare to every American. In addition to its obvious humane benefits, it will save the US several billion dollars annually, according to The Citizens Alliance for National Health Insurance. []
  2. According to the organization, Law Enforcement Against Prohibition, (LEAP), under South African Apartheid in 1993, Black men were incarcerated at a rate of 841 per 100,000. In the US in 2004, Black men were incarcerated at a rate of 4,400 per 100,000. []
  3. For a further discussion on social change, elections, and popular struggle in American history, please see Howard Zinn’s book, A People’s History of the United States. Using impeccable sources and research, Zinn illustrates to the reader how when mass movements in the US attempted to press their demands through the electoral process, the movements fizzled out with little or no results. []
  4. Quoted words are pulled from Henry David Thoreau’s 1849 essay, “Resistance to Civil Government” or also known as “Civil Disobedience.” []
  5. The quoted words, “tinkering with the machinery,” are the words of the late US Supreme Court Justice, Harry Blackmun, who famously noted that he would “no longer tinker with the machinery of death.” Blackmun was referring to the institution of the death penalty as a form of criminal punishment. []

Max Kantar is an undergraduate at Ferris State University. He can be reached for comment at: maxkantar@gmail.com. Read other articles by Max, or visit Max's website.

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  1. Don Hawkins said on October 25th, 2008 at 7:28am #

    Don’t expect the young people to give up. But they shouldn’t be standing alone. They didn’t even create the mess. They are just inheriting it.

    To top it off, because I was on travel, I couldn’t make it to the court proceedings. They had decided to accept the plea bargain, but asked me to write a statement on their behalf (which follows), but when I sent an e-mail in the wee hours that morning I failed to attach the attachment! It figures – they are pretty much on their own anyhow.

    “Statement of James E. Hansen*
    If this case had gone to trial I would have requested permission to testify on behalf of these young people, who, for the sake of nature and humanity, had the courage to stand up against powerful “authority”. In fact, these young people speak with greater authority and understanding of the consequences of continued coal mining, not only for the local environment, but for the well-being of nature itself, of creation, of the planet inherited from prior generations.
    The science of climate change has become clear in recent years: if coal emissions to the atmosphere are not halted, we will drive to extinction a large fraction of the species on the planet. Already almost half of summer sea ice in the Arctic has been lost, coral reefs are under great stress, mountain glaciers are melting world-wide with consequences for fresh water supplies of hundreds of millions of people within the next several decades, and climate extremes including greater floods, more intense heat waves and forest fires, and stronger storms have all been documented.

    Our parents did not realize the long-term effects of fossil fuel use. We no longer have that excuse. Let us hope that the courage of these young people will help spark public education about the climate and environmental issues, and help us preserve nature for the sake of our children and grandchildren.
    *For the sake of identification, I am director of the NASA Goddard Institute for Space Studies and Adjunct Professor at the Columbia University Earth Institute, but these are my personal opinions and do not represent any organization.

    “You will know (the good from the bad) when you are calm, at peace. Passive. Use the Force for knowledge and defense, never for attack. ”

    What James said about these young people and there attempt to get there voice heard would you call that defense. Let’s see the survival of the human race civilization depends on it. I think you could call that defense. We need to knot let these younger people stand alone anybody know how to do that because I don’t and will help if I can. Read all of what James just wrote called “obstruction of justice”. It’s on his web site google James Hansen it’s there so far.

  2. Don Hawkins said on October 25th, 2008 at 8:00am #

    “In the last year and a half, there has been a massive explosion of awareness; however, the media has not reported enough about the emergency and depth of action,” said Pachauri, who has led the United Nations panel since 2002.

    The fact that only half of Americans polled consider human activity to be the main cause of climate change is often blamed on media coverage. But news reports of climate change have steadily increased in recent years, especially since government reports, a major Supreme Court hearing, and the documentary “An Inconvenient Truth” brought attention to the climate crisis in 2006.

    Pachauri suggested that major news agencies now rely too much on high-level science reports or large climate-related events for their stories, rather than examples of climate change’s ongoing effects. “We need to go beyond the cyclical coverage of climate change and emphasize the day-to-day relevance,” he said.

    But as long as the overall proportion of stories about climate change remain low, localism alone probably won’t be enough to convey the severity of the problem. It’s hard to fault news outlets for prioritizing the financial crisis, war, and national security over climate change, but what about other stories? As Public Radio International chief Alisa Miller pointed out in her talk at the March 2008 TED conference, in February 2007 US news coverage of the death of Anna Nicole Smith exceeded coverage of the IPCC report by a factor of 10 to 1, a fact that leaves me wondering exactly whose priorities are being reflected. The Christian Science Monitor

    A conspiracy theory or maybe not even that. It’s the money stupid. Do these networks not run stories because say coal or oil companies spend lot’s of money on commercials telling us don’t worry be happy and don’t forget to put the check in the mail it’s where we get 50% of our energy because we have stopped any progress on new forms of energy. No the networks would never do that sort of. There seems to be a lot of people standing alone. How do we change that?

  3. bozhidar bob balkas said on October 25th, 2008 at 8:50am #

    a good piece and w. wider vista than most pieces and coments.
    the wider the look, the wiser one is.
    so, i suggest to posters who tend to personalize, clintonize, trumanize events to stop doping it.
    instead, think even of wind, wheather, bears as influencing all happeninigs.
    but always having in mind that wmd, cia, police, science, geology, music, and countless of other events influence all that is happening w.even more.
    i have stopped reading anything written ab obama. nobody can know obama no matter how much and how long one talks ab. him.
    i also suggest that he doesn’t know self either. thnx

  4. Don Hawkins said on October 25th, 2008 at 10:19am #

    i also suggest that he doesn’t know self either. I have noticed that in him a few times and I hope on hope that he calls on the people who do know self and a few other things. Remember that whole hope thing. What have we moved onto now? It seems the last few weeks something called nuts. Hell try anything who cares maybe it will work. People can handel it. Miss vice preident this is how the football works, no don’t turn that key.

  5. Max Shields said on October 25th, 2008 at 11:11am #

    Simply put: a vote for Obama may be a vote for McCain, but it’s certainly not for change.

  6. Max Shields said on October 25th, 2008 at 11:12am #

    One more time: a vote for Obama may be a vote AGAINST McCain, but it’s certainly not a vote for change.

  7. bozhidar bob balkas said on October 25th, 2008 at 11:20am #

    max,
    yes, missiles will still rain dwn on civ’s and men who r morally and legally obligated to defend their turf regardless how bad these people r. thnx

  8. tuned in said on October 25th, 2008 at 12:08pm #

    Thank you Max, for this excellently articulated article. My sentiments exactly.

  9. Ramsefall said on October 25th, 2008 at 1:20pm #

    You do a fine job, Max, at establishing relevant precedence apropos of choice come November by “taking a moral stand in boycotting their rigged institutions of fake democracy”. It seems to be the only logical and principled option at this point in the charades, but there are many doubters and upholders of the Institution out there who I’m sure will tell you otherwise.

    The illusion of voting as the sacred cornerstone of Democracy in this election has been so skillfully wrought that I venture a speculation of higher than average voter turnout come 04 XI 08 — perhaps 60-70% — a figure not seen since the revolutionary days of citizens like MLK, Lennon and Leary. No doubt the public is justified in wanting change as a result of chronic constipation brought on by the Bush-Cheney Junta, but we both know that the only change coming is more short-changing.

    Nonetheless, as the system successfully panders to the public’s increasing state of desperation in this whirl-wind crisis, calling them like sheeple to the polling booths, collective awareness will ultimately ascend as the participants in this farcical reality show begin to realize that essentially the same course is being maintained by either representatives of the duopoly they elect. As such, they will finally become cognizant that the superficial democratic act of voting a fresh face-lifted Executive Branch into office is the furthest extent that the nation’s democracy will reach. As you pointed out quite accurately, “Democracy, in any meaningful sense, is a system that allows people to have a say in decisions to the degree that they are affected”. As usual, there will be no public input on how to resolve the problems revolving around the economy, housing, health care, unemployment, imprisonment, education or foreign policy…in the Democracy of US, that’ s the entire reason for electing these officials, in order that they can make those imperative decisions for those that they govern.

    As a result, perhaps by 2010 and Israel/Washington’s attack on Iran, a real grassroots movement encompassing 80-90% of the public will finally disintegrate their pyramid scheme. The people will begin to appreciate, as your effectual reliance on Zinn summarizes, “the wonderful advancements our country has made over the years (coming) as a result of popular struggle, not electoral politics.3″ A truth that’s all too obvious for a minority, at present.

    Thanks, Max.
    Enjoy your opiates while they last, America!

  10. Don Hawkins said on October 25th, 2008 at 1:32pm #

    I got this whole thing figured out. Now I am just an average citizen but I stay informed. It looks like Obama is a terrorist he is probably in contact with them right now. McCain is a war hero and doesn’t want to raise tax’s because rich people need the money to give us jobs. Obama wants to take the money away from rich people and give it to the poor that would be 85% of us or more do you see the logic in that he’s probably smoking something too. McCain has the experience and knows how the World works or doesn’t work. Obama has no clue on how the World works but yes he try’s hard. I told you I am informed I watch Foxnews and CNN and listen to Rush on the radio sometimes and my wife likes Palin so vote McCain. Oh and what about Joe the plumber have you ever stopped to think about that vote McCain. To me it’s so easy to see. USA USA USA drill baby drill drill Baby Drill. Pay your bills and listen to your leaders they know best. USA USA USA

  11. bozhidar bob balkas said on October 25th, 2008 at 2:26pm #

    don,
    as an aside, i listen to devil of my own. and he (or is she?) loves to blab.
    the four semitic gods: baal, jahweh, god, and allah don’t talk to each other.
    the only company they have is the devil. and they tell him everything.
    and all i have to do is pray to my devil to tell me what’s going on.

  12. Don Hawkins said on October 25th, 2008 at 2:28pm #

    And I forgot to mention our President Mr. Bush. In 30 or 40 years we will all understand just how good this man was as the last survivors of the human race are digging through the rubble of what used to be human civilization and maybe come upon an old newspaper that mentions George W Bush as President of the United States and those survivors dirty and hungry but still free will say, “President of the United States those were the day’s when we still had a President and United States, States yes but united is not exactly the way it played out”. USA USA drill baby drill.

    There is still time but not on this path think people think.

  13. Don Hawkins said on October 25th, 2008 at 2:41pm #

    But if nothing else.

    Dear Caesar
    Keep Burning, raping, killing
    But please, please
    Spare us your obscene poetry
    And ugly music

    – From Seneca’s last letter to Nero

    I have seem a few of these so called leaders dance and for some reason they just don’t seem to be very good at it. Why is that. This new guy does I have my fingers crossed. It helps

  14. Tree said on October 25th, 2008 at 6:10pm #

    Great piece. When I say stuff like this, people get angry with me. Like it’s a huge betrayal that I won’t support Obama.
    Lots of people wearing blinders these days.

  15. DavidG. said on October 25th, 2008 at 6:11pm #

    This is a surefire cure for the Opium of American Propaganda!

    Each morning, each American should look in the mirror and repeat the following:

    “I, Joe B…., have been fed a tissue of lies. My country is not the greatest country in the history of the world but is instead a class-riddled, militaristic, faith-crazed, right-wing rogue nation.

    I, an American, am not a member of an elite race but merely a citizen of a small, mediocre country, one with only five percent of the world’s population, a country which is filled with corruption and greed and racism and inequality.

    I would like to apologize to the world for the wars and killing and destruction my imperialist country has engaged in over decades and for the rapacious economic exploitation it has carried out across the world, exploitation which has brought hunger and starvation to many.

    Please forgive me and my country! Hopefully we can resolve our glaring deficiencies and do better.”

    http://www.dangerouscreation.com

  16. Tree said on October 25th, 2008 at 8:06pm #

    Every American should say that? How about everyone all around the world?

  17. tuned in said on October 25th, 2008 at 9:06pm #

    Right on David G!

  18. john andrews said on October 25th, 2008 at 11:53pm #

    Free Democracy is a solution,

    http://www.freedemocrats.co.uk.

  19. Jim said on October 26th, 2008 at 3:43am #

    We must keep our eye on the ball. If I were part of a Elite class, what would my main focus be? Manageability, pure and simple. The control of wage slaves finances, geographic location, ideology and future have become to difficult to control with current systems in place. Systems must be consolidated and simplified to maintain more efficient (easy) control. I am sure what we are seeing will certainly open the door for these changes. We will probably beg for it. Is there evidence for this? Many large lending institutions and banks are becoming a few large lending institutions and banks. Many puppet Governments have been overthrown and will need to be turned to our way of thinking or be wiped out. Huge land grabs are taking place world wide by undisclosed entities. The idea that only more governance can save us is being promoted by governments and MSM. In the end we (wage slaves) can expect less different currencies, less freedom/time off to enjoy ourselves and a much larger gap between us and them, with them controlling the MSM. Military/police, currency and property. Their problem has always been just what I’ve written and we have little or nothing to say about it. The only good news is, the prison guards can’t afford to take their eyes off the prisoners for one second setting us free. There is always the chance, they will become sick of themselves and their secrets (your only as sick as the secrets you keep) and join us as part of a truly human race. Obama like Johnny boy exposed himself at the AIPAC speech, where he drooled over Israeli goodness and did everything but drop to his knees singing Mammy!! (Al Jolsen). Cynthia McKinney is a true American who has proven herself honest. I just wish this beautiful lady would quit making this a black or white thing.

  20. Paul said on October 26th, 2008 at 4:37am #

    Want to make a difference run for office! Stop talking, and start doing! Start a new party the DemaPubs, or vote for an existing indy candidate !!

  21. Paul said on October 26th, 2008 at 4:54am #

    We live in a world where the standard of living has risen 600% in the last 100 years, and it is still not good enough. Utopia is a figment of the imagination. Survival of the fittest is reaty. People should have to have a combined score of 230 on an iq test to be allowed to reproduce as a couple with 280 being genius level. There are two mani di di dis.

  22. Paul said on October 26th, 2008 at 4:56am #

    I spelt thit rong on porpus spelling is not a sign of intelligence it is memorized learning.

  23. Don Hawkins said on October 26th, 2008 at 7:34am #

    One more time. We are out of time it’s not support this person or that one it’s about survival. Many don’t want you to know this as you can’t handle the truth. Oh really we seem to handle the insanity we see and hear on TV everyday well some of us. Somehow we must start I don’t think we get a second chance. To not fight back against greed fear and stupidity seems so useless. Think of this as kind of a war and remember greed fear and stupidity is a powerful addiction not to mention the game they love the game and they know not what they do sort of.

  24. Don Hawkins said on October 26th, 2008 at 8:20am #

    By George Monbiot. Published in the Guardian 21st October 2008

    The problem is simply stated. As Gordon Brown – discussing what he perceives to be an improvement in his political fortunes – says, “an hour is a long time in politics.”(1) (It used to be a week, but everything is speeding up). To remain in office or to remain in business, decision-makers must privilege the present over the future. Discount rates ensure that investments made today are worth nothing in ten years’ time; the political cycle demands that no one looks beyond the next election.

    The financial crisis is just one consequence of a system which demands that governments sacrifice long-term survival for short-term gains. Monbiot

    That last sentence is what needs to change. The question is of course will it, not on this path. Do the decision-makers understand what George just wrote of course they do but are weak. Let me say that again they are weak. They come across as strong and to me the way they do that is through arrogance and belligerents and in many cases have other people do it for them but in the end weak people. If this financial crisis hasn’t showed us that nothing will.

  25. Don Hawkins said on October 26th, 2008 at 9:07am #

    And of course these so called decision-makers, elites, leaders will tell us we are weak and need to listen to them for help, guidance and to try and be like them as it is the America way and I say kiss my ass. Being weak like that or just plain nuts and having to look at the World like that and treat people in that way is so far from home it boggles the mind. I think most of us out here you know we the people know this and yes hard to fight but the other side seems so useless. Now of course these elites will say we are good people and you just don’t like people who have more than you do and I say your weak and you want to much from me and you just don’t seem to bright and are those alligator shoes, did they cost a lot can I win friends and influence people if I get some? I think I’ll keep the ones I got thank you.

  26. Giorgio said on October 26th, 2008 at 3:22pm #

    “Dear Caesar
    Keep Burning, raping, killing
    But please, please
    Spare us your obscene poetry
    And ugly music…”

    – From Seneca’s last letter to Nero

    Speaking of emperors, I wrote quite a few months ago a piece which may be appropriate repeating it here in this context:

    A MUSLIM’S OPEN LETTER to G.W. BUSH

    Dear Mr President,

    Do yourself, your family, your Country and more
    importantly the World a favour. Please pick up your
    phone and make an appointment with your shrink, URGENTLY !

    You and your government’s actions are like the
    Texan cowboy who enraged by an irritating fly
    (Bin Laden) storms into a crowded room chasing it
    and blowing up everything and everyone around
    (Afghans, Iraqis) to smithereens. But the fact
    remains, the fly is still there, somewhere,
    breeding and multiplying.

    Unfortunately, only God, Jesus, Buddha, Zeus, Jehovah, Jupiter, Allah,
    Krishna and the many other demigods in this colourful World and YOU,
    know who will be hit next.

    I suspect that in your leisure you overindulge
    watching action cartoons like Tweety and Pussycat,
    and/or Tom and Jerry. This surely must have blurred your
    ability to clearly separate Reality from Fiction.
    In order to strike a balance, I recommend you devote
    more time also to such readings as L. Tolstoy’s WAR AND PEACE
    and TE Lawrence’s THE SEVEN PILLARS OF WISDOM.

    But if you can’t handle (intellectually, i.e.)
    these works, I suggest a lighter reading:
    George Orwell’s ANIMAL FARM.
    This is the story of a pig who firmly believed that
    “All people in the World are equal,
    BUT SOME ARE MORE EQUAL THAN OTHERS”.

    And when the time comes and you survey
    from the White House balcony the World ABLAZE,
    what musical instrument will you, Emperor Bush, be playing?
    The fiddle?
    But if you happen to be musically illiterate, don’t worry!
    Then your INANE SMIRK gracing the foreground
    to this monumental tragedy WILL DO JUST FINE !

    I hope you got the gist of my drift, SIR!

    Yours sincerely,

    Kashar Khan*

    *Kashar Khan is the pen name/”nom de plume” chosen by be writer of this letter in homage to all Muslims/Arabs who have been the innocent victims of the use and abuse of military power.
    In December, 1979, Afghanistan was invaded by the Soviet Union.
    As a result of this war which lasted 10 years, a wave of refugees moved to the safety of neighbouring Pakistan. Among the refugees was a little girl whose picture taken by Steve McCurry in 1984 graced the front page of National Geographic in June 1985.
    This picture generated worldwide interest and seventeen years later the same photographer went back to look for her. He found her, a married woman with 3 young daughters.
    He learnt then that her name was Sharbat Gula, and Kashar Khan is her brother’s name.

    Below is a link to the original Sharbat’s National Geographic cover picture.

    http://www.stefangeens.com/000133.html

  27. Ivan. said on October 26th, 2008 at 3:40pm #

    A nice article, but it is late, the only thing we must do is to send more and more progressives to the Congress. By this we can put a brake on either candidates who won the White House. The problem with people especially in US is that they are dissociated from their history, they have lost their memory as a nation. Progressives have to persuade them to read, to study. Economic downturn will forced them to find the cause and we can help them to be informed. As part of our history I liked this, please read and watch:
    http://democracyandsocialism.com/FameSocialism/Sinclair_Lewis.html

  28. Don Hawkins said on October 26th, 2008 at 6:24pm #

    Do you know why we have this little financial crisis because we are all in debt and we don’t have money to pay the debt. How did this happen well these very nice people gave us this money at a very high interest rate and sometimes very very high rate it’s called compound interest and told us to go buy things it’s the American way. So we did. Now these very good people took our debt and did what’s called leverage say 20 to 1 to make more money. It’s still all debt and looks real good on paper. At the same time this was happening many of these same people sent jobs overseas for cheap labor to make more money. To make a long story short it didn’t work and why it’s called greed went way to far. In this country the last time I checked about 15% of the people control all the money and 1% of the people control them. Now we can’t have rich people walking the streets so about a trillion dollars or more so far has been given to the people who gave us the money in the first place and guess what for more debt but I have a feeling they may keep some. So that’s debt to fix debt. Oh my God this is nut’s or innnnnsane. We should be saving money and yes some pain but these very good people who like to lend money don’t like pain just fun stuff and yes they are nuts. Anyway we are now in debt to the Earth and it has it’s own rules. These very nice people’s answer is no we are not and it’s full speed ahead and even if it is true who cares my kids are tuff they can Handel it. What’s a little sea level rise and most of the species gone including human’s and let me finish with oh very nice people it’s not that funny you complete idiot’s.

  29. bozhidar bob balkas said on October 28th, 2008 at 6:58am #

    to iterate,
    amers r human. the rest of world is human; therefore, they behave/think alike or same.
    posters who either tacitly or explicitly posit the notion that amers r separate from most panhuman attributes, r mistaken.
    amers r sheople; greedy; don’t care; r mean, etc., isn’t true.
    nearly all humans share such atributes. more cld be said ab this; particularly regarding the role of the clergy/patricians in all this. thnx

  30. mmckinl said on October 28th, 2008 at 9:11pm #

    Vote third Party …

    By not voting at all they win.

    By voting third party you poke them in the eye.