Comments on: Running On Empty http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/10/running-on-empty/ a radical newsletter in the struggle for peace and social justice Thu, 08 Dec 2011 15:07:30 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: bozhidar bob balkas http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/10/running-on-empty/#comment-30917 bozhidar bob balkas Fri, 31 Oct 2008 14:10:39 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=4308#comment-30917 alex, our forewalkers of millennia ago cld not have survived if the structure of governance had been similar or same as it had been everywhere for the last 7K yrs. the institutionalized serfdom was introduced some 7-20K yrs. oft survival of a clan depended on few girls. they had to be cherished/fed/protected. and all ate. but at certain time the oldest professions emerged: liars, deceivers, cheaters. thnx alex,
our forewalkers of millennia ago cld not have survived if the structure of governance had been similar or same as it had been everywhere for the last 7K yrs.
the institutionalized serfdom was introduced some 7-20K yrs.
oft survival of a clan depended on few girls. they had to be cherished/fed/protected. and all ate.
but at certain time the oldest professions emerged: liars, deceivers, cheaters. thnx

]]> By: Alex http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/10/running-on-empty/#comment-30900 Alex Fri, 31 Oct 2008 02:47:09 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=4308#comment-30900 One great German Philospher said: The only enduring legacy from one generation of humans to the other is biology and science. Or more simply put DNA and territory and ideology. Thus, you can argue one way or the other all you want. But, in the end, for the greater good of humanity is all that matters. In life, there are ONLY winners and losers. Who plots the course of humanity? Alex One great German Philospher said: The only enduring legacy from one generation of humans to the other is biology and science. Or more simply put DNA and territory and ideology.

Thus, you can argue one way or the other all you want. But, in the end, for the greater good of humanity is all that matters. In life, there are ONLY winners and losers. Who plots the course of humanity?

Alex

]]> By: Brian Koontz http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/10/running-on-empty/#comment-30872 Brian Koontz Thu, 30 Oct 2008 22:20:58 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=4308#comment-30872 Since the center of power and wealth in the US (and almost everywhere else) resides in the ruling class, a person's degree of wealth is largely tied to their relationship with the ruling class. The poor are the revolutionaries. Since the center of power and wealth in the US (and almost everywhere else) resides in the ruling class, a person’s degree of wealth is largely tied to their relationship with the ruling class.

The poor are the revolutionaries.

]]> By: Phil http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/10/running-on-empty/#comment-30826 Phil Thu, 30 Oct 2008 16:49:03 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=4308#comment-30826 It may be a generalization, but I suspect that the constituents who'd most want and support independent candidates are the ones with the least money to donate. At least in large part. It may be a generalization, but I suspect that the constituents who’d most want and support independent candidates are the ones with the least money to donate. At least in large part.

]]> By: Brian Koontz http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/10/running-on-empty/#comment-30809 Brian Koontz Thu, 30 Oct 2008 13:05:06 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=4308#comment-30809 In a world of gangs, it's best to have the strongest one on your side. That is the motto of the vast majority of the American people. Voting for McKinney or Nader is avoided not due to "thinking they can't win", but because their administrations would be a much weaker gang (worse at imperialism) and Imperialist Americans (99%+ of the population) wouldn't stand for that, *despite* the many improvements in their lives they would bring. Mob Bosses never are kind, gentle-hearted souls, are they? In a world of gangs, it’s best to have the strongest one on your side. That is the motto of the vast majority of the American people.

Voting for McKinney or Nader is avoided not due to “thinking they can’t win”, but because their administrations would be a much weaker gang (worse at imperialism) and Imperialist Americans (99%+ of the population) wouldn’t stand for that, *despite* the many improvements in their lives they would bring.

Mob Bosses never are kind, gentle-hearted souls, are they?

]]> By: bozhidar bob balkas http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/10/running-on-empty/#comment-30805 bozhidar bob balkas Thu, 30 Oct 2008 11:39:04 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=4308#comment-30805 brian, yes to iterate, a gang has no pang. and the large gang/mob like the one in US makes its own rules of conduct just like all the other gangs. some people call that safety in numbers. and the mob in US controls cia, fbi, drugs, military, wmd, politicos. thnx brian, yes
to iterate, a gang has no pang. and the large gang/mob like the one in US makes its own rules of conduct just like all the other gangs.
some people call that safety in numbers.
and the mob in US controls cia, fbi, drugs, military, wmd, politicos.
thnx

]]> By: Brian Koontz http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/10/running-on-empty/#comment-30795 Brian Koontz Thu, 30 Oct 2008 05:41:46 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=4308#comment-30795 Americans are the ruling class of the world. It makes no sense to elect someone who will oppose the interests of imperialism, even if that someone has views shared by most Americans. Americans don't want to elect people like themselves - they want to elect thieves and murderers. Electing people like themselves won't make them any richer. If wealth is redistributed in America there is a serious problem - where did the wealth come from in the first place? It came primarily from two sources - exploiting material and exploiting humans. Industrialization (destroying the environment), capitalism (destroying wage slaves), and imperialism (destroying foreigners). So it's a bit odd to elect someone who is a decent person and then that decent person turns around and redistributes money gained from these destructive forces. It's like if a new mob boss comes in and redistributes mob money to the mob underlings, money acquired by the old mob boss in the first place - how exactly does that address the behavior of the mob itself? Therefore, the only logical choice is to elect a thief and a murderer. They were the ones who made America rich, so they should receive their inheritance. Americans of nearly all persuasions enjoy the "American way of life". These "moral" Americans who want the "poor" to receive a "bigger piece of the pie" should check the ingredients of that pie. If Americans really want to redistribute wealth, they should redistribute it to the people it was primarily taken *from* - the poor of the third world. These reparations would destroy American imperialism, which of course is the last thing the "moral Americans" want. Americans are the ruling class of the world. It makes no sense to elect someone who will oppose the interests of imperialism, even if that someone has views shared by most Americans.

Americans don’t want to elect people like themselves – they want to elect thieves and murderers. Electing people like themselves won’t make them any richer.

If wealth is redistributed in America there is a serious problem – where did the wealth come from in the first place? It came primarily from two sources – exploiting material and exploiting humans. Industrialization (destroying the environment), capitalism (destroying wage slaves), and imperialism (destroying foreigners).

So it’s a bit odd to elect someone who is a decent person and then that decent person turns around and redistributes money gained from these destructive forces. It’s like if a new mob boss comes in and redistributes mob money to the mob underlings, money acquired by the old mob boss in the first place – how exactly does that address the behavior of the mob itself?

Therefore, the only logical choice is to elect a thief and a murderer. They were the ones who made America rich, so they should receive their inheritance.

Americans of nearly all persuasions enjoy the “American way of life”. These “moral” Americans who want the “poor” to receive a “bigger piece of the pie” should check the ingredients of that pie.

If Americans really want to redistribute wealth, they should redistribute it to the people it was primarily taken *from* – the poor of the third world. These reparations would destroy American imperialism, which of course is the last thing the “moral Americans” want.

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