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		<title>By: Giorgio</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/10/feeling-robbed/#comment-30186</link>
		<dc:creator>Giorgio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 08:00:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I saw a UTube video where Nader was barred from entrering a Rep or Dem convention...the cops gave him two options: either leave on his own accord OR be handcuffed, arrested and locked up...
Among the few things he could utter was: &quot;I can&#039;t believe it I&#039;m living in America!....&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw a UTube video where Nader was barred from entrering a Rep or Dem convention&#8230;the cops gave him two options: either leave on his own accord OR be handcuffed, arrested and locked up&#8230;<br />
Among the few things he could utter was: &#8220;I can&#8217;t believe it I&#8217;m living in America!&#8230;.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: steve conn</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/10/feeling-robbed/#comment-30184</link>
		<dc:creator>steve conn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 05:01:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Class warfare has been declared. Attacks on grassroots organizations like ACORN and grassroots Presidential campaigns like Ralph Nader&#039;s are underway. Opensecrets.org is the single place to see who pays the players. The rest is noise. Obama will not do what is necessary unless
under pressure from those without money and power. That is the single most important reason to vote for Ralph Nader. Proof that we exist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Class warfare has been declared. Attacks on grassroots organizations like ACORN and grassroots Presidential campaigns like Ralph Nader&#8217;s are underway. Opensecrets.org is the single place to see who pays the players. The rest is noise. Obama will not do what is necessary unless<br />
under pressure from those without money and power. That is the single most important reason to vote for Ralph Nader. Proof that we exist.</p>
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		<title>By: Donald Hawkins</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/10/feeling-robbed/#comment-30179</link>
		<dc:creator>Donald Hawkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 01:30:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We live in strange times much knowledge and yet our reason can not seem to overcome our instincts.  At least with these so called elites.  I read many who do you reason and use it well.  Gold, silver, Diamonds a good cup of coffee.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We live in strange times much knowledge and yet our reason can not seem to overcome our instincts.  At least with these so called elites.  I read many who do you reason and use it well.  Gold, silver, Diamonds a good cup of coffee.</p>
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		<title>By: Giorgio</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/10/feeling-robbed/#comment-30178</link>
		<dc:creator>Giorgio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 01:27:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;After receiving an $84 billion tax payer bailout they had a party for their executives — the cost $440,000. There was outrage on Capitol Hill including threats to ‘get the money back.’ “They were getting their manicures, their pedicures, massages, their facials while the American people were paying their bills,” thundered Rep. Elijah E. Cummings (D-MD). But, instead the Federal Reserve gave them $38 billion more after their party.&quot;

Well if this is not good reason to STORM  (not the Bastille) THE RESERVE BANK and shut it down and throw the shysters in jail, then there is something very pathetically wrong with Americans...to go around in a swagger bombing indiscriminately innocent, DEFENCELESS people in the world screaming: IF YOU HIT US, WE AMERICANS  WILL HIT, REPEAT W-I-L-L   H-I-T  Y-O-U,  BACK  A THOUSAND TIMES HARDER!!!   
NOW is the time to show your REAL BALLS and mince the balls of those Wall Street goons with your High Noon perfect hero Gary Cooper  heroic swagger...
Obviously, it just won&#039;t happen! Just a few protesters, screaming and waving, outside the building for the merrymakers up on the building to pour some of their champagne down on to them for them to lick off the ground while shouting down: THANKS FOR THE WINE, AMERICANS! HAVE A TASTE! YOU PAID FOR IT! 
SUCKERS!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;After receiving an $84 billion tax payer bailout they had a party for their executives — the cost $440,000. There was outrage on Capitol Hill including threats to ‘get the money back.’ “They were getting their manicures, their pedicures, massages, their facials while the American people were paying their bills,” thundered Rep. Elijah E. Cummings (D-MD). But, instead the Federal Reserve gave them $38 billion more after their party.&#8221;</p>
<p>Well if this is not good reason to STORM  (not the Bastille) THE RESERVE BANK and shut it down and throw the shysters in jail, then there is something very pathetically wrong with Americans&#8230;to go around in a swagger bombing indiscriminately innocent, DEFENCELESS people in the world screaming: IF YOU HIT US, WE AMERICANS  WILL HIT, REPEAT W-I-L-L   H-I-T  Y-O-U,  BACK  A THOUSAND TIMES HARDER!!!<br />
NOW is the time to show your REAL BALLS and mince the balls of those Wall Street goons with your High Noon perfect hero Gary Cooper  heroic swagger&#8230;<br />
Obviously, it just won&#8217;t happen! Just a few protesters, screaming and waving, outside the building for the merrymakers up on the building to pour some of their champagne down on to them for them to lick off the ground while shouting down: THANKS FOR THE WINE, AMERICANS! HAVE A TASTE! YOU PAID FOR IT!<br />
SUCKERS!</p>
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		<title>By: Donald Hawkins</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/10/feeling-robbed/#comment-30177</link>
		<dc:creator>Donald Hawkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 01:11:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Try not. Do or do not, there is no try.
 Always in motion is the future.  Yoda</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Try not. Do or do not, there is no try.<br />
 Always in motion is the future.  Yoda</p>
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		<title>By: bozhidar  bob  balkas</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/10/feeling-robbed/#comment-30174</link>
		<dc:creator>bozhidar  bob  balkas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 23:13:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>however, world w. the torah the whorah, bible the blabble, and qoron the moron and their ab 4bn slaves, appears to be destined for extiction.
i can&#039;t see how w. nuclear weapons, pollution, warming, nazification of the planet, etc., we can last more than a century. thnx</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>however, world w. the torah the whorah, bible the blabble, and qoron the moron and their ab 4bn slaves, appears to be destined for extiction.<br />
i can&#8217;t see how w. nuclear weapons, pollution, warming, nazification of the planet, etc., we can last more than a century. thnx</p>
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		<title>By: Donald Hawkins</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/10/feeling-robbed/#comment-30172</link>
		<dc:creator>Donald Hawkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 22:33:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and think of this as kind of a War.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and think of this as kind of a War.</p>
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		<title>By: Arch Stanton</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/10/feeling-robbed/#comment-30168</link>
		<dc:creator>Arch Stanton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 22:17:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Obama candidacy has made it clear they want not only more of the same vis a vis the plastic surgery on the global financial fubar but are going to increase the already criminally psychotic levels of military spending and expand the imperial &quot;war on terror&quot; wherever, and as much, as possible.  (The less said about the hebephrenic McCain campaign, the better.)

And now here comes tail gunner Joe Biden spewing out the following:

&quot;There are going to be a lot of you who want to go, ‘Whoa, wait a minute, yo, whoa, whoa, I don&#039;t know about that decision.&#039; Because if you think the decision is sound when they&#039;re made, which I believe you will when they&#039;re made, they&#039;re not likely to be as popular as they are sound. Because if they&#039;re popular, they&#039;re probably not sound.&quot;

Ominous words, and not exactly in sync with the idea of a &quot;transparent, democratic, equitable and sustainable&quot; planet.  Gabriel Kolko nailed that kind of imperious conceit.

&quot;Blind men and women have been the motor of modern history and the source of endless misery and destruction. Aspiring leaders of great powers can neither understand nor admit the fact that their strategies are extremely dangerous because statecraft by its very nature always calculates the ability of a nation&#039;s military and economic resources to overcome whatever challenges it confronts.  To reject such traditional reasoning, and to question the value of conventional wisdom and react to international crises realistically on the basis of past failures would make them unsuited to command.&quot;

Hasn&#039;t the twentieth century taught us anything?  It would appear not.  But we no longer have the luxury of time and resources to continue to play The Great Game.  Face it, states are obsolete and extremely dangerous, and are in fact, leading us to extinction as a species.

A decorous reform movement isn&#039;t going to cut it.  Maybe it&#039;s a tough call for some, but sustainability means an end to statecraft, period--not a tinkering with its superficial aspects.

My estimate is that humanity has about two decades at most to decide to make profound fundamental changes in political, economic and social organization.  After that, we may as well crawl under our beds and quiver in fear waiting for the end.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Obama candidacy has made it clear they want not only more of the same vis a vis the plastic surgery on the global financial fubar but are going to increase the already criminally psychotic levels of military spending and expand the imperial &#8220;war on terror&#8221; wherever, and as much, as possible.  (The less said about the hebephrenic McCain campaign, the better.)</p>
<p>And now here comes tail gunner Joe Biden spewing out the following:</p>
<p>&#8220;There are going to be a lot of you who want to go, ‘Whoa, wait a minute, yo, whoa, whoa, I don&#8217;t know about that decision.&#8217; Because if you think the decision is sound when they&#8217;re made, which I believe you will when they&#8217;re made, they&#8217;re not likely to be as popular as they are sound. Because if they&#8217;re popular, they&#8217;re probably not sound.&#8221;</p>
<p>Ominous words, and not exactly in sync with the idea of a &#8220;transparent, democratic, equitable and sustainable&#8221; planet.  Gabriel Kolko nailed that kind of imperious conceit.</p>
<p>&#8220;Blind men and women have been the motor of modern history and the source of endless misery and destruction. Aspiring leaders of great powers can neither understand nor admit the fact that their strategies are extremely dangerous because statecraft by its very nature always calculates the ability of a nation&#8217;s military and economic resources to overcome whatever challenges it confronts.  To reject such traditional reasoning, and to question the value of conventional wisdom and react to international crises realistically on the basis of past failures would make them unsuited to command.&#8221;</p>
<p>Hasn&#8217;t the twentieth century taught us anything?  It would appear not.  But we no longer have the luxury of time and resources to continue to play The Great Game.  Face it, states are obsolete and extremely dangerous, and are in fact, leading us to extinction as a species.</p>
<p>A decorous reform movement isn&#8217;t going to cut it.  Maybe it&#8217;s a tough call for some, but sustainability means an end to statecraft, period&#8211;not a tinkering with its superficial aspects.</p>
<p>My estimate is that humanity has about two decades at most to decide to make profound fundamental changes in political, economic and social organization.  After that, we may as well crawl under our beds and quiver in fear waiting for the end.</p>
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		<title>By: Drew</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/10/feeling-robbed/#comment-30164</link>
		<dc:creator>Drew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 22:02:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes bob we&#039;ve been enslaved for 20,000 years, doing terrible things like building pyramids and spaceships. What a nightmare life is for the miserable poor suffering victims.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes bob we&#8217;ve been enslaved for 20,000 years, doing terrible things like building pyramids and spaceships. What a nightmare life is for the miserable poor suffering victims.</p>
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		<title>By: corylus</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/10/feeling-robbed/#comment-30162</link>
		<dc:creator>corylus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 21:49:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One way to advocate for economic democracy is to take it back from the corporate criminals.  They&#039;ve ripped us off, now it&#039;s time for payback -- in whatever form that takes.  For instance, that big banker&#039;s nice Lexus?  Gasoline and a match.  His house?  Ditto.  Vacation on Cape Cod, Bermuda, Cancun, Paris?  Who cares where -- turn it into a living hell.

These traitors and criminals, and their cronies in government, including Congress, don&#039;t deserve fairness, forgiveness, impartiality, or trials.  They don&#039;t deserve to eat from our tables, shop with our wages, or live at our expense.  These greedy, thieving vermin should be treated for what they are: walking excrement in need of quick burial.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One way to advocate for economic democracy is to take it back from the corporate criminals.  They&#8217;ve ripped us off, now it&#8217;s time for payback &#8212; in whatever form that takes.  For instance, that big banker&#8217;s nice Lexus?  Gasoline and a match.  His house?  Ditto.  Vacation on Cape Cod, Bermuda, Cancun, Paris?  Who cares where &#8212; turn it into a living hell.</p>
<p>These traitors and criminals, and their cronies in government, including Congress, don&#8217;t deserve fairness, forgiveness, impartiality, or trials.  They don&#8217;t deserve to eat from our tables, shop with our wages, or live at our expense.  These greedy, thieving vermin should be treated for what they are: walking excrement in need of quick burial.</p>
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		<title>By: bozhidar  bob  balkas</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/10/feeling-robbed/#comment-30152</link>
		<dc:creator>bozhidar  bob  balkas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 20:58:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>due to the fact that perhaps only 1% (2-10 mn) amers rule US w. iron grip, it appears very unlikely that workers will maintain present wages and benefits.
add to that the fact that planet is getting daily poorer and more polluted,  poor people everywhere will have to (or be forced) to do w. much less in coming decades, centuries, or millennia.
we&#039;v have been enslaved for at least 20,000 yrs. now, we r mostly  enserfed; shut out in toto from all salient decision-making. thnx</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>due to the fact that perhaps only 1% (2-10 mn) amers rule US w. iron grip, it appears very unlikely that workers will maintain present wages and benefits.<br />
add to that the fact that planet is getting daily poorer and more polluted,  poor people everywhere will have to (or be forced) to do w. much less in coming decades, centuries, or millennia.<br />
we&#8217;v have been enslaved for at least 20,000 yrs. now, we r mostly  enserfed; shut out in toto from all salient decision-making. thnx</p>
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