400 years of American history with a power elite securely ensconsed throughout, and deadbeat’s got the audacity of blaming some vague notion (however he defines it) of an American Left.

There is no “left” in American politics. And, Binh, you are completely right. The game is between Dem/Repub volley ball. There are no real arguments, just sides to perform the perfunctory election cycle joke.

Deadbeat is a Democrat who will no doubt vote for Obama. But what he does here is pretend to be a outside the fray provocateur, while blaming a “left” for just about everything we see today. It would be total idiocy, except that he’s a friggin plant.

That’s bull. I have 2 words for you: Howard Dean. Or, if you prefer, Dennis Kucinich. The Dems tried hard and succeeded in co-opting the anti-war movement and its activists.

Deadbeat: Also Selfa blames the Democrats for what happened to the Communist Party of the 1930. Unfortunately the Communist Party could have remained independent from the Democrats. No one was twisting their arms.

More bull, but at least these some truth when you sift through this comment a bit. Selfa does not blame the Dems for what happened to the CP. Either you didn’t read the book or you are being willfully ignorant. In either case, you are wrong. Selfa’s book is all about the choices the left and movements in the past made. The Dems actively wooed the Populists, the CIO and the unions, and the 60’s movements, but it was forces within those movements that took the bait and died in the trap.

And yes, someone was twisting the CP’s arm, a guy by the name of Joe Stalin. You may have heard of him.

You say “the Democrats has become a favorite pastime of the Left,” but in reality the left’s favorite past-time is blaming the Republicans for any and all evils while apologizing, making excuses for, and voting for Democrats who bear just as much responsibility for the same evils as the GOP.

This is kind of rhetoric that will continue to alienate the Left from being able to provide any alternatives to the Democrats. This rhetoric is not only hyperbolic but it is also hypocrisy and lacks the nuance needed to communicate and reach out to Obama supporters.

It was not the Democratic Party that caused the Left to diffuse the anti-war movement four years ago. It was not the Democratic Party that caused Nader to run as an independent in 2004 and 2008. It was not the Democratic Party that weakened the Green Party.

In addition, the conditions that led Jesse Jackson to run his campaign in 1984 and 1988 are different from the conditions permitting Obama’s run in 2008. Actually I think Jackson’s run did more damage because it helped to usher in Bill Clinton. However in Jackson’s case there was no viable left-wing alternative in the 1980’s.

The difference with Obama is that the Left via the Green Party did present itself as an alternative but unfortunately it self-destructed. That self-destruction created a void that Obama is taking advantage of. Therefore the Left has unfortunately played an active role in creating the environment whereby Obama now sits. So blaming the Democrats IMO has become a favorite pastime of the Left.

Also Selfa blames the Democrats for what happened to the Communist Party of the 1930. Unfortunately the Communist Party could have remained independent from the Democrats. No one was twisting their arms. The Socialist Party did not support Roosevelt and remained independent. Also it is important to note that the Communist Party has a large membership of African Americans. The reason is that the Communist Party took a hardline stance against lynching and actively organized African Americans. This just goes to show that it can be done and was done and needs to be done again in order to weaken the Democrats if that is to be the true goal of the Left.

As the country’s oldest Party it has learned how to hold onto power, remain the “liberal” party, and yet sustain the imperial agenda over the last 2+ hundred years.

Over the years it has gathered the means to keep a progressive movement off-balance by offering a faux progressive candidate here and there, only to keep the status quo that this party thrives on, completely in tact.

Obama is a product of this. He was clearly the most conservative of the Dem candidates with the exception f his running mate. Hillary was a close second.

The upsidedown Alice in Wonderlandishness is told by Obama’s record. While I’m not a huge Sanders fan (though he’s better than many, to be sure), it makes no sense to compare Obama’s Dem Party line votes with Sanders’ occasional un-Dem votes (such as the recent bailout). Under corporate media consideration, that was a “liberal” vote on the part of Obama who vote yea for the bailout and Sanders was not, for voting against it.

This is the madness created by a duopoly and the complicit media who keeps this non-sensical word game going and the country collapsing all around us.

McCain/Obama, Obama/McCain – NO DIFFERENCE.