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		<title>By: Donald Hawkins</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/09/the-tumbrels-roll-at-dawn/#comment-28386</link>
		<dc:creator>Donald Hawkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 00:40:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I listened to the Presidents speech and I don&#039;t know about you but I feel much better.  The man&#039;s imagination is nothing short of incredible.  Here is the speech many would like to hear.
 
      My fellow Americans I had a dream last night and the song Blowin&#039; in the wind just kept playing over and over again.  This morning as I awoke I knew what to do.  I have directed Congress the fed and the Treasure that we are going to nationalize the oil industry in the United States.  We are also going to nationalize the auto makers as they are on there last legs anyway.  The power companies in the United States will also be nationalized.  People we are going to repower America and do it in less than ten years. These changes will be under one agency and some of the smartest minds we have will run this project the largest project ever done. I have asked James Hansen to help find the people we need and fast.  The money at first from the companies that have been nationalized of course will go to funding these projects and any money needed for research will be there.  That&#039;s team A in the United States and there will be team B that will help China and India do the same thing.  As of today there will be no more tress cut down in the United States and another team team C will begin to change the way we farm in the United States.  The makers of big machinery used in farming and bigger projects have been given the chance to change over to natural gas.  If you live in a city you will drive an electric car.  Some trucks will be natural gas.  If you live in the country some trucks and cars will be converted to natural gas.  The way electricity is produced will be from solar using the Southwest and low loss power lines.  Wind will be a big part of this project and geothermal.  Research into new power sources will be given what they need.  It&#039;s the people&#039;s money so after completion of most of this any profits will be returned to the people all the people and incentives for conservation will be build in.  I know that&#039;s a lot to take in and will not be easy at first and can we do this?  Yes we can and let me finish as I have much work to do let&#039;s all &quot;put a little love in are heart&quot;  Thank you thank you very much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I listened to the Presidents speech and I don&#8217;t know about you but I feel much better.  The man&#8217;s imagination is nothing short of incredible.  Here is the speech many would like to hear.</p>
<p>      My fellow Americans I had a dream last night and the song Blowin&#8217; in the wind just kept playing over and over again.  This morning as I awoke I knew what to do.  I have directed Congress the fed and the Treasure that we are going to nationalize the oil industry in the United States.  We are also going to nationalize the auto makers as they are on there last legs anyway.  The power companies in the United States will also be nationalized.  People we are going to repower America and do it in less than ten years. These changes will be under one agency and some of the smartest minds we have will run this project the largest project ever done. I have asked James Hansen to help find the people we need and fast.  The money at first from the companies that have been nationalized of course will go to funding these projects and any money needed for research will be there.  That&#8217;s team A in the United States and there will be team B that will help China and India do the same thing.  As of today there will be no more tress cut down in the United States and another team team C will begin to change the way we farm in the United States.  The makers of big machinery used in farming and bigger projects have been given the chance to change over to natural gas.  If you live in a city you will drive an electric car.  Some trucks will be natural gas.  If you live in the country some trucks and cars will be converted to natural gas.  The way electricity is produced will be from solar using the Southwest and low loss power lines.  Wind will be a big part of this project and geothermal.  Research into new power sources will be given what they need.  It&#8217;s the people&#8217;s money so after completion of most of this any profits will be returned to the people all the people and incentives for conservation will be build in.  I know that&#8217;s a lot to take in and will not be easy at first and can we do this?  Yes we can and let me finish as I have much work to do let&#8217;s all &#8220;put a little love in are heart&#8221;  Thank you thank you very much.</p>
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		<title>By: Edwin Pell</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/09/the-tumbrels-roll-at-dawn/#comment-28382</link>
		<dc:creator>Edwin Pell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 23:38:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From an email from Bernie Sanders Senator from Vermont. He says we peasants do not have to bailout the rich! What a concept. I hope he is wearing Kevlar. 

&quot;An Economy in Crisis

Amid one of the worst financial crises in American history, Senator Bernie Sanders laid out a four-part plan to cope with the collapse of financial institutions and avoid future failures of businesses “too big to fail.” First, Sanders proposed a surtax on the very wealthy to pay for bailouts of Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac and American International Group.  “The wealthiest 400 families in America saw an increase in their wealth of $670 billion since President Bush has been in office.  They have seen extraordinary benefits under Bush’s reckless economic policies.  The middle class, whose standard of living has declined, should not be paying for these bailouts.  Rather, we need an emergency surtax on those at the very top in order to pay for any losses the federal government suffers as a result of necessary efforts to shore up the economy,” Sanders said.  Second, he called for stronger oversight of financial institutions and an end to President Bush’s deregulation policies. Third, huge businesses like Bank of America, which is swallowing up other large corporations, should be broken up so no company in the future could bring the American economy down with it. Said Sanders, “This country can no longer afford companies that are ‘too big to fail.’ Fourth, he called for an immediate economic stimulus package which would put people back to work rebuilding our crumbling infrastructure, and moving us to energy efficiency and sustainable energy.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From an email from Bernie Sanders Senator from Vermont. He says we peasants do not have to bailout the rich! What a concept. I hope he is wearing Kevlar. </p>
<p>&#8220;An Economy in Crisis</p>
<p>Amid one of the worst financial crises in American history, Senator Bernie Sanders laid out a four-part plan to cope with the collapse of financial institutions and avoid future failures of businesses “too big to fail.” First, Sanders proposed a surtax on the very wealthy to pay for bailouts of Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac and American International Group.  “The wealthiest 400 families in America saw an increase in their wealth of $670 billion since President Bush has been in office.  They have seen extraordinary benefits under Bush’s reckless economic policies.  The middle class, whose standard of living has declined, should not be paying for these bailouts.  Rather, we need an emergency surtax on those at the very top in order to pay for any losses the federal government suffers as a result of necessary efforts to shore up the economy,” Sanders said.  Second, he called for stronger oversight of financial institutions and an end to President Bush’s deregulation policies. Third, huge businesses like Bank of America, which is swallowing up other large corporations, should be broken up so no company in the future could bring the American economy down with it. Said Sanders, “This country can no longer afford companies that are ‘too big to fail.’ Fourth, he called for an immediate economic stimulus package which would put people back to work rebuilding our crumbling infrastructure, and moving us to energy efficiency and sustainable energy.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Gliscameria</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/09/the-tumbrels-roll-at-dawn/#comment-28378</link>
		<dc:creator>Gliscameria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 23:09:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These people act like the money vanished.  A few very greedy people have it.  Granted they lent out 100x what they actually have... but there are tens of trillions of dollars in the hands of these greedy swine.  If anyone was interested in getting anything done they would get some laws together to get this money back into the system.

The president can declare martial law and strip us of everything we have if it&#039;s deemed to be for the greater good... why can&#039;t they hold .005% of the country accoutable for their greed and deceit?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These people act like the money vanished.  A few very greedy people have it.  Granted they lent out 100x what they actually have&#8230; but there are tens of trillions of dollars in the hands of these greedy swine.  If anyone was interested in getting anything done they would get some laws together to get this money back into the system.</p>
<p>The president can declare martial law and strip us of everything we have if it&#8217;s deemed to be for the greater good&#8230; why can&#8217;t they hold .005% of the country accoutable for their greed and deceit?</p>
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		<title>By: Donald Hawkins</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/09/the-tumbrels-roll-at-dawn/#comment-28376</link>
		<dc:creator>Donald Hawkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 19:55:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Arctic sea  ice cover appears to have reached its minimum extent for the year, the second-lowest extent recorded since the dawn of the satellite era.  While above the record minimum set on September 16, 2007, this year further reinforces the strong negative trend in summertime ice extent observed over the past thirty years. With the minimum behind us, we will continue to analyze ice conditions as we head into the crucial period of the ice growth season during the months to come.  NSIDC

     Has anybody noticed all these records not just with the Earth but humans and what they do.  The markets is a big one and how about the speed rate that these records seem to come up and then with record speed the way humans try and fix these records.  The speed at which we are moving to our own destruction is moving forward faster, faster.  The answer of course is to slowdown that seems to be an idea that is so out of the question it is never talked about.  It&#039;s like you hear maybe this company will be bailed out then ten minutes later it is.  Fast, faster, fastest and these fixes do they do any good yes for about ten minutes.  Hard choices to try and fix the problems no fast now the short term.  Strange isn&#039;t it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Arctic sea  ice cover appears to have reached its minimum extent for the year, the second-lowest extent recorded since the dawn of the satellite era.  While above the record minimum set on September 16, 2007, this year further reinforces the strong negative trend in summertime ice extent observed over the past thirty years. With the minimum behind us, we will continue to analyze ice conditions as we head into the crucial period of the ice growth season during the months to come.  NSIDC</p>
<p>     Has anybody noticed all these records not just with the Earth but humans and what they do.  The markets is a big one and how about the speed rate that these records seem to come up and then with record speed the way humans try and fix these records.  The speed at which we are moving to our own destruction is moving forward faster, faster.  The answer of course is to slowdown that seems to be an idea that is so out of the question it is never talked about.  It&#8217;s like you hear maybe this company will be bailed out then ten minutes later it is.  Fast, faster, fastest and these fixes do they do any good yes for about ten minutes.  Hard choices to try and fix the problems no fast now the short term.  Strange isn&#8217;t it.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Cronin</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/09/the-tumbrels-roll-at-dawn/#comment-28357</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Cronin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 16:09:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My money market account was just frozen, due to losses incurred through the Lehman Brothers bankruptcy.  The account rep phoned and told me the loss would be about two percent.  In the meantime, the money is unavailable while they liquidate the assets in the money market, which will take about a week while they search (desperately?) for another money market in which to put the funds.   Between June of 2007 and today,  I&#039;ve lost about a year&#039;s income.  I am luckier than some.  So far.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My money market account was just frozen, due to losses incurred through the Lehman Brothers bankruptcy.  The account rep phoned and told me the loss would be about two percent.  In the meantime, the money is unavailable while they liquidate the assets in the money market, which will take about a week while they search (desperately?) for another money market in which to put the funds.   Between June of 2007 and today,  I&#8217;ve lost about a year&#8217;s income.  I am luckier than some.  So far.</p>
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