Comments on: The Bush Regime’s Imperial Affirmation: Endless War, Endless Conquest, Endless Repression

By: Tom Burghardt

Tom Burghardt — Sat, 06 Sep 2008 19:15:27 +0000

Fair enough, bozhidar. My anger is neither pro-Zionist propaganda, nor is it directed against people who raise disagreements with my arguments. The collapse of Yugoslavia, like the collapse of the former Soviet Union, was driven by internal and external forces. I am concerned primarily, as a U.S. citizen with the role played by the U.S. state in pushing Yugoslavia over the edge. No fan of Israel or the Zionist persecution and dispossession of the Palestinians, I do however strongly object to those critics who all-too-glibly equate the ferocious actions of the Israeli settler-colonial state with all Jews in general. This is the direct counterpart of crazed right-wingers in the United States and elsewhere, who “blame” all Muslims for actions undertaken by far-right Islamists such as al-Qaeda. Scapegoating and its twin, conspiracy mongering enjoys a long and dark history here in the U.S.

If I mistakenly ascribed such views to you, then my apologies.

By: Josie Michel-Brüning

Josie Michel-Brüning — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 15:14:49 +0000

1st: I did not like this kind of aggressive dialogue between you two. Couldn’ t you find a more respectful way of talking to each other?

2nd: Dear bozhidar balkas,
regrettably, you are right when stating: “that perhaps all eurolands are going fascist.” – Yes, “Thanks” to your U.S. representantives (like Brzyszinky could manage to do in Afghanistan and others could manage to do elsewhere in the name of the U.S. profit) Capitalism has won (after the Berlin wall fell down all social compromises were increasingly given up, in consequence of this, and the gap between rich and poor was increasing at the same time) and capitalism is socialdarwinist and fascist by nature. Like it is with your kind of undemocratic elections: the “Winner takes it all”.

By: bozhidar balkas

bozhidar balkas — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 00:00:33 +0000

tom, i thought that i made it clear that it was evil empires who thought of balkan peoples as unruly, uncultured and not deserving selfrule. that goes back way before socialism arose.
you did not read my post of today where i state that perhaps all eurolands are going fascist.
that includes croatia. your point about ustashe is valid. however, many communists were also in the HDZ, the ruling party. yes, tudjman turned away from socialism/communism because he claimed that after the war he returned to zagreb and learnt that partisans have slain his dad.
tudjman was a partizan general.
i am strong socialist. thus not happy about what is going on in europe.
“self rule”, ” independence”, “democracy” meant something different even at the end of ww2.
so i don’t understand your anger. of course there is no democracy anywhere and thus not selfrule as it meant, let’s say, a 100 yrs ago.
and why are so rude about some people claiming seniority rights to a land?? beats me.
zionist do that. so how can’t you not care about this ruse. if you want me to read your pieces you better first learn to talk to people.

By: Tom Burghardt

Tom Burghardt — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 22:31:26 +0000

Yes, yes, lads I’ve read it all before…

Pick your favorite nationalist toadies–Izetbegovic, Thaci, Tudjman, Milsosevic and run with them, that’s the spirit! Facts are facts however: Izetbegovic was a Nazi symp., was imprisoned by the Yugos because he published a rant calling for an Islamist state. Tudjman for his part, revived the Pope-ridden Ustashe who made even the Nazis blush because of their barbarism. And let’s not forget Milosevic, who did all in his power to curry favor with the United States–not that it did him a whit of good!

The West turned a (very) blind eye when the Balkans were flooded with ex-Afghan-Arab fighters, who did indeed massacre Serbs and Croats AND also Bosnian Muslims who didn’t toe a hard-enough line.

But when in doubt: blame it all on “the Jews,” who, FYI, were “ethnically cleansed” along with Serbs and Roma in the newly “liberated” Kosovo by Thaci’s horde of drug-trafficking thugs. No, that’s what I call spreading democracy–American-style!

Frankly, I could care a rat’s ass bozhidar, who was in Kosovo first. What I am concerned by (as you should be too!) is that after the “Wall” fell, the Yanks, the Brits and the Germans rushed in and incited, yes, incited the destruction of the multiethnic state of Yugoslavia.

Michael Kenny muses:

“The Israel Lobby has repeatedly tried to use this division to smear various people, notably the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem of that day.

Which, of course, leaves you wondering which side Mr Burghardt is really on!”

No, sir. You needn’t wonder “which side” I’m really on. I’ll tell you, the side of those willing and able to smash Nazis and fascists any time, any place, and by all means necessary! Go here for further “illumination”: http://redaction.org/anti-fascism/contents.html

Who are you kidding, bozhidar “they are bad, uncultured; thus unfit for selfrule…” Sounds like you’re describing the attitudes of the Yankee imperialists and their British lieutenants, not mine!

What “selfrule” do any of the former Yugoslav republics enjoy? Please enlighten me. The “right” to be ruled over by priests and mullahs? The “right” to be enchained to the World Bank/IMF? The “right” to a dizzying drop in one’s standard of living? The “right” to have your resources stolen from you, Trepka mines, permanent U.S. bases? Some freedom you’re peddling there!

The “Israel lobby”? Now, that’s a joke! But the joke’s on you, Michael. In “Fools’ Crusade: Yugoslavia, NATO and Western Delusions,” Diana Johnstone writes:

“The Bosnian Muslim connection received strong political support from segments of the Israeli lobby because it promised to strengthen the crucial strategic US-Israeli-Turkish alliance in the Middle East. This attitude was expressed very frankly in a January 1996 column by New Republic editors Jacob Heilbrunn and Michael Lind who wrote, ‘… instead of seeing Bosnia as the eastern frontier of NATO, we should view the Balkans as the western frontier of America’s rapidly expanding sphere of influence in the Middle East. … The regions once ruled by the Ottoman Turks show signs of becoming the heart of a third American empire.’” (p. 46)

Is that plain enough?

By: bozhidar balkas

bozhidar balkas — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 19:00:28 +0000

kenny,
you gave us excellent info about the handzar div’n. thanx.
you are right that zionist use this fact to smear muslims and especially pals.
it’s that goodness-badness strategem at play again that also evil euro empires have used against balkan peoples: they are bad, uncultured; thus unfit for selfrule; better people shld rule over them for milennia or forever. thank u

By: Michael Kenny

Michael Kenny — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 16:25:31 +0000

Good God! What frightful ranting! Mr Burghardt a “researcher”? I’m surprised he didn’t claim that Adolf Hitler himself didn’t visit Bosina (having emerged from the secret hideaway he’s been sharing with Elvis!).

Just to clarify a point of historical fact, membership of the foreign units of the Waffen SS doesn’t necessarily imply any sympathy for the Nazi ideology and the Bosnian Division is one of the better examples of that. The Germans half-heartedly raised a Bosnian division and some Bosnians half-heartedly joined it. It was then sent half-heartedly to Belgium where its members promptly went over (wholeheartedly!) to the Belgian resistance. One assumes that includes Mr Izetbegovic, which would make him, I suppose, a hero of the anti-Nazi resistance! The Israel Lobby has repeatedly tried to use this division to smear various people, notably the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem of that day.

Which, of course, leaves you wondering which side Mr Burghardt is really on!

By: bozhidar balkas

bozhidar balkas — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 16:14:29 +0000

both velikoserbs and -croats claimed that bosnian muslims wanted to set up an islamist country (veliko=great).
the assertion was a clear falsehood.
christians wld have been a majority in such a bosnia. and, surrounded by croatia, serbia, and montenegro such a state wld have lasted just a few days.
in addition, bosnians were culturally the same. one cldn’t tell a moslem woman from a serb or croat woman.
it seems that the independence of kosovo is opposed on several assumptions:
1)kosovar leadership was corrupt, war criminals; thus kosovars cannot have selfrule with such bad people. this badness-goodness ruse has been used by all evil empires.
2)once a conquest happened, we must honor it forever. thus tibet, turkestan, kosovo, baluchistan, kashmir, palestine, pashtunstan, must never rise again.
3)no new nations can rise. but new nations rise all the time. germans and english, serbs and croats were respectively one people as recently as perhaps 3-4td yrs ago but no longer.
croats are an admixture of people. probably serbs also. they differ considerably.
4) right to land because of seniority rights. eg, serbs were i kosovo before albs. even if that be true it is irrelevant when above three assumptions are chucked away
in fact, illyrians inhabited much of the balkans since 2,500; thus their descendants, the albs, may have resided in kosovo, serbia, croatia continuoulsy to this day.
serbs after settling balkans in 7th century were either unable or unwilling to assimilate kosovars.
croats on the other hand were able to absorb all of the previously roman/byzantine citizens and became one nation.
the serbs of croatia came to it in the 17th century on invitation by austria.
croats did protest. because of that two of the croats nobles, frankopan and zrinski, plotted with ottoman empire against austria.
both were called to vienna and there put to death. more cld be said. zrinski and frankpan had other reasons for crying uncle to ottomans.
than k u

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By: Israel did 9-11

Israel did 9-11 — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 14:59:52 +0000

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What poor in USA can have access to good health and good college education?

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In USA everybody can have a car, but owning a car means shit, owning a car doesn’t make you a lawyer, a doctor and can’t cure diabetes and a tooth decay

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