Looks like Kokesh may not get back to you.

I don’t know the particulars of the bills that you are asking about, but understanding Ron Paul’s actions is pretty simple. If he feels that anything about a bill is unconstitutional, he votes against it. As we all know, congress is notorious for inserting some pretty “unsavory” things in bills that might seem otherwise innocuous. If a bill has something like that in it, Ron Paul votes no.

For example, wags like to point out that Ron Paul voted against giving the congressional medal of honor to Rosa Parks. Of course they claim this as proof that he’s a racist. When you dig into it, you’ll find he also voted against giving the medal to Pope John Paul II and Ronald Reagen as well. Why? He feels that the medals are an unconstitutional use of taxpayer money, and offered as an alternative that members of congress chip in from their own pockets to purchase the medals, and offered to do so himself.

I think you’re right. Barr is a Trojan horse. Check this out.

http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2008/09/lptn-chairman-barrs-stunt-couldnt-have-been-more-destructive-if-it-were-planned/

I first became leery of Barr when I noticed the cable news shows were giving him the VIP treatment. After their torturing of Ron Paul when he was running, and giving almost no air time at all to the other 3rd party candidates, this was a big red flag.

Then I learned of all of his 180s on the issues, and that he was former CIA. That was enough for me.

The “free market” label for the sick, murderous disciples of the disgusting Milton Friedman is an extreme misnomer to say the least. They are no more “free market” than the neocons are “conservative”.

There is nothing “free market” about them. Overthrowing elected governments, to install horrible dictators who allow a select few to rape and pillage a country with monopolies and cartels would be more accurately termed fascism or crony capitalism, and I’m sure a few more terms, but it is the antithesis of genuine free market capitalism.

Haven’t you figured out by now that these evil people always give their horrid philosophies and methods nice sounding names? Think: “Patriot Act” and the “Security and Prosperity Partnership”.

Your second paragraph only goes to show that you know nothing about Ron Paul. And in case you haven’t noticed, the country is already impoverished, and getting worse every day. This is in no way the fault of Ron Paul’s policies and philosophies. It’s quite the opposite. It’s because the establishment Dems and Reps do NOT implement his policies and philosophies.

Now, the racist, homophobic, evangelical christian, anti-poor, anti-environment conservative trash politics of wrong paul are pitifull; they have no base, but, as is evident from this thread, are populated by many upper middle class internet trolls who wish to impoverish the country.

Barr’s no-show was a huge political mistake. His lack of embrace of Ron Paul and especially Ron Paul supporters hurts building up the Libertarians.

I saw the Libertarian Party convention and I got the impression that Barr was not the party’s activists favorite’s choice. I hope Barr is not playing the Trojan Horse role on the Libertarian Party side that David Cobb played in 2004 on the Green Party side. Cobb’s campaign was deliberately set up to confound Nader and the result of the Green Party’s poor showing in 2004 is a loss of ballot lines for this election cycle.

I think Barr shot himself in the ass when he failed to show for Ron Paul’s press conference when the other 3rd party candidates attended. Then Barr showed his ass when his campaign disrespected Ron Paul afterward.

Barr is done.

Ron Paul discusses it here, and his endorsement for Chuck Baldwin.

http://www.campaignforliberty.com/blog/?p=582

The citation is embedded in the article, but since you are lazy, here it is: http://iava.capwiz.com/bio/id/567&lvl=C&chamber=H Click on the “votes” tab to see the amazing 41% rating.

And to Mr. Kokesh, one of the few respectful respondents with something intelligent to say, what’s your take on the bills that Paul voted against? Do you too oppose increasing the benefits veterans receive because that would be “big government”?

I agree with you that there need to be cohesion around the big issues. I support those who are for policies and programs that helps the little guy. However let’s be honest. 3rd parties are just not in the position. Actually since you are a Ron Paul supporter perhaps you can help explain why the Libertarian Party is not in a much stronger position. I clearly know why the Green Party collapsed in 2004 and weaken themselves for this election cycle. But I thought the Libertarian Party was more cohesive. Why aren’t they more out in front? Barr is polling the same as Nader at 2%. Nader was forced out of the Green Party and has no institutional support. But Barr IMO should be doing better. I’d be interested in your perspective.

thx.

If you had applied logic to your writing effort above, instead of emotion, you might not have so many critical comments rebutting your indefensible position.

As an armed services member I hope you realize that when the fit hits the shan nothing is going to save us from 100 years of uncontrolled big government. None of those social programs will hold up worth a damn when bullets become the nation’s currency. We’ve been meddling for far too long and Ron Paul understands this. It’s a pity so few are willing to listen.

We can waste time going in circles over minutia, and that’s what they want us to do as the economy and the country for that matter, circles the drain.

We need to drop the petty crap, and get together on the big issues. You guys saw the press conference with Ron Paul, Nader, McKinney, and Baldwin? (Barr ducked out, but he’s a CIA stooge anyway) I believe they put aside their differences and spoke of the 4 major issues that they were concerned about and concerned that the 2 major candidates were avoiding. This is what we Americans need to do. Not fight over minutia or semantics, but agree that things are a mess, and we want them fixed.

Ron Paul’s been my man since 2003, but I’d take McKinney, Nader, Baldwin, Kucinich etc. over McBama any day. I’d definitely take all those folks working together to fix this GIANT mess the Republicans and Democrats have gotten us into.

Keep your ears to the ground and hold on tight. Lots to take in, and it’s going to be a very bumpy ride.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKjhNa6PGLk

Income Tax and the Federal Reserve system was a response to the Progressive Era. The problem is that people are so ignorant of their history that is not the programs but their administration and the public lack of awareness. For example the Income Tax was instituted against the Robber Barrons. Over the years the Income Tax was morphed to tax the income of ordinary workers rather than act as a regulation on masses wage and wealth concentration. For example Ralph Nader proposes to tax stock transactions and eliminate all income taxes for everyone making less than 100K.

However will the Ron Paul folks support Ralph Nader? I don’t think so.

You wrote:”it has come about from extreme collusion of grossly huge government with big business, with the government intervening in everything, enacting laws and imposing regulations that favor big business “.
But that is my point. Without regulations and restraining, big business will get bigger and powerful and control the government for its advantage. What we have now is a government from big business by big business for big business. We have almost no regulations right now
but business is behaving opposite to your wishful thinking. Or you are
thinking that Social Security and Midicare is what is holding this country back??!! And by the way I am not either a Democrat or a Republican. My leaning is toward populism.