Comments on: Palin’s Dominance Dooms McCain

By: bozhidar bob balkas

bozhidar bob balkas — Sun, 16 Nov 2008 15:46:03 +0000

shabnam,
selfselected, -elected, and -proclaimed ‘leaders’? am i right?
selfproclaimed, -elected, and -selected ‘misleaders’ and disinformers?
am i wrong? thnx

By: Shabnam

Shabnam — Sun, 16 Nov 2008 01:17:12 +0000

Ignorant people who believe James Zogby is committed to Palestinian cause must read what other people are writing about their experience with James Zogby. The “Angry Arab” news service on November 15, 2008 writes:
“I have written before about James Zogby. I have written before about the Muslim and Arab American organizations in DC: how they have become fronts for the polygamous ruling dynasties of the Gulf and/or for Muhammad Dahlan. This is why when I travel around the US, I never meet Arab Americans who feel that those fronts represent them in any way. But James Zogby is a particularly obnoxious case. This is a man desperately looking for a role (not to be confused with Desperately seeking Susan), and would sell the land and the cows to have his picture taken with anybody who works in the White House. Back in 1993, when Arab Americans were outraged about the appointment of a Zionist fanatic (who was not even a US citizen) in a key post in the Clinton administration (Martin Indyk), this Zogby guy came to his defense saying that he found him to be good. Back then, I called Zogby and told him: You have the right to sound stupid, but please don’t speak on behalf of Arab-Americans as you are being stupid. I explained to him that I know of no Arabs that he speaks for, aside from the UAE’s ruling family of course. He suggested that we meet and I refused. Later, Indyk hired Zogby’s son at the US Department of State (his son is a nice person, having met him once as I debated an Israeli professor at Georgetwon University). After Sep. 11, I said repeatedly, that if Arab Americans and Muslim Americans were to be ever placed in concentration camps, Zogby would volunteer to drive the busses–provided he is permitted to have his picture taken with the prison guards. Here, he tells you that Rahm Imanuel has been unfairly criticized by Arabs. (thanks Soheil)
PS And how dumb do you have to be to believe this: “Emanuel volunteered for a few weeks, as a civilian, doing maintenance on Israeli vehicles.” But Zogby here reveals why he likes him: “Rahm accepted my invitation to a luncheon with Arab American community leaders.
Community leaders? Community leaders my potato.”
Posted by As’ad at 8:25 AM
http://angryarab.blogspot.com/

The following post shows James Zogby’s eulogy in praise of Obama to become the next president, Obama offered Israel “undivided Jerusalem as its capital” at the AIPAC conference last summer.
http://weekly.ahram.org.eg/2008/922/fo5.htm

By: Deadbeat

Deadbeat — Fri, 26 Sep 2008 06:23:31 +0000

Shabnam,

Thanks for the thorough vetting of Zogby. I was suspicious of Zogby’s overall polling methodology but I had no idea of the underlying politics of James & John Zogby. In addition I think Obama worked closely with Zogby in Chicago.

Zionism and its awful influence is why the Left cannot coalesce. Zionism had clearly kept activists confused and confounded especially the way activist hang on Noam Chomsky every word. Somehow Chomsky with all his voluminous writings and analysis has myopia when it comes to analyzing the influence of Zionism has upon the United States political economy.

By: Shabnam

Shabnam — Fri, 26 Sep 2008 03:12:03 +0000

John Zogby in one of his book promotion gathering admitted that his poll on favorability of McCain over Obama by 2 percent was based on a survey done by landlines. People in the audience told him this is a biased poll since Obama supporters are cell phone users. John Zomby who calls McCain his friend Pushed this complain under the rug by saying that he did not want to bring extra cost by calling people on their cell phone. When did John Zogby, a business man, become interested in saving money for his victims? John Zogby conducts his poll in such a way to obtain ‘favorable’ results to help ‘his friends’ by forming public opinion to support his friend based on manipulation. He is part of the Zionist and should not be trusted. Zogby’s poll on Iran shows that 52% Americans are pro strike on Iran because Zogby international, including James, are Arabist, therefore, close to Arab puppet head of states policies on Iran whose interests are intertwined with Americans and Zionists’ interest and therefore, all are pro an strike on Iran.

By: Shabnam

Shabnam — Thu, 18 Sep 2008 19:20:52 +0000

There is more evidence that James Zogby’s support for Palestinian is intertwined with working closely with the US/Zionists forces and their Arab puppet head of states. In a poll Zogby gives legs to Zionist plan, a strike on Iran, by suggesting that 52 percent Americans want an strike on Iran to form public opinion based on bias.

“majority of likely voters – 52% – would support a U.S. military strike to prevent Iran from building a nuclear weapon, and 53% believe it is likely that the U.S. will be involved in a military strike against Iran before the next presidential election, a new Zogby America telephone poll shows.”
http://guntotingliberal.com/?p=2062
Please notice words like ‘nuclear weapon’ where Iran has NONE. Iran’s nuclear reactor is not completed due to Russian game to satisfy the Zionists to receive better concession from the Bush administration. Iranian’s reactor has deliberately been delayed for more than 8 years by Russian to satisfy Bush and his Zionist associates.
The ‘Arab moderate head of state’ that zogby is close with are US allies who present Iran as the main enemy in the region, like Zogby who paints the same image throughout his bias polls especially since the invasion of Iraq.
‘Angryarab’ blog internet site where is pro Palestinian has critizied and exposed James Zogby number of times. For example: in the following note, Angryarab is attacking James Zogby for his support of the Zionist Martin Indyke:
“James Zogby, president of the Arab American Institute, hailed the Arab decision to participate.” In 1993, I read this clown praise the appointment of Martin Indyk to a high post in the US administration, and he added that Arabs don’t have a problem with him. (Later Indyk returned the favor, and hired his son to work for him–how touching). I called Zogby and told him: Look. I respect your right to make a fool of yourself, and you do it with great regularity. But can you at least do it in your own name and not in the name of any Arab American? He said: can we meet and discuss this? I said: No. This man, it should be made clear, represents no more than himself—and the UAE dynasties.”

This following note shows that Zogby is an opportunist:
Saturday, July 23, 2005
“You now can sleep better: I read somewhere that James Zogby, who–I always argued–will volunteer to drive the buses that would take Arab Americans to internment camps if we ever come to that in return for photo opportunities with US officials, has reached an “agreement” with Prince Al-Walid Bin Talal according to which the Prince will reportedly pay some half a million dollar a year (over several years) to Zogby’s organization.”

http://www.prospect.org/cs/articles?articleId=6687

By: Shabnam

Shabnam — Thu, 18 Sep 2008 05:27:16 +0000

opeluboy:
When I made the statement I was talking about James Zogby who also works for Zogby International and is the president of Arab American Institute. He also serves on the Human Rights Watch and is a member of the Council on Foreign Relations. In 1993, Vice President Al Gore invited Zogby to head Builder for Peace, which seeks to promote U.S. business and investment interests in the West Bank and Gaza.
Because Zogby works for both left and right, therefore, one can say he is a businessman more than anything else. Zogby does not reveal his sponsors, but he has worked with many known figures from the political right group. According to “the American Prospect,” James Zogby, head of the Arab American Institute, was an adviser to Al Gore’s presidential campaign.
Although James Zogby supports Palestinian people, yet his politics on Middle East is close to other Arab head of States. His polling on Arabs’ view on the question of Iraq and Iran, to me, is very disturbing and again, shows his political affinity towards Arab conservative’s view which is aligned with the Zionists and American interest. He similar to ‘the moderate Arabs head of States and the Zionists,’ identify Iran as terrorist state that has gained the most from the Zionist war and has ‘ambition’ to take over the Middle East against Arab interest. He presents this point of view through his phony poll who conducts among Arabs. His poll is so ‘good’ that often is used by Cheney and AEI. For example:
On the one hand he writes: “Significant majorities of Iraqis and Americans now want U.S. forces to leave that country, arguing that the American presence provokes the insurgency.”, and on the other hand he continues: “however, is a sense that should the U.S. forces leave Iraq prematurely, the country could disintegrate into a more deadly civil war which could spill over into the broader region. This, it is argued, would further embolden Iran, which is already seen as the major beneficiary of the war, leaving the entire Gulf region open to the ambitions of the Islamic Republic,” which is Bullshit.
As far as I know majority of Iraqi people and people of the region want US – Israel- Britain get out. If you go to any site including “Alarabyia” which is owned by the Saudi Arabia, and read the opinions then you will notice that majority of Arabs, Persians, Turks, except the Kurds, want the occupiers leave. Today, Prince Abdullah of Jordan, and other ‘moderate Arabs head of states’ are supporting Palestinian while they support Zionist’s agenda. Other site like “angry arabs. Other Arabs
have objections against him. The following is from Angryarab.blogspot.
com
“I can’t think of anybody that I disrespect more than James Zogby (and I like his brother, John, the pollster by the way). I once called Zogby in Washington, DC and told him: “Look. I absolutely understand that you want to make a fool of yourself. Just don’t do it on behalf of any Arab American except yourself.” Zogby sent a tribute for Hariri to Hariri rag, Al-Mustaqbal. In it, he said something very original: something that people never say in funerals or in tributes. He said that: “Hariri did not die.” Really?” I don’t know if you know Hariri represents US -Israel and
Saudis’s interest.
prospect.org/cs/articles?article=john_zogbys_creative_polls

By: Deadbeat

Deadbeat — Thu, 18 Sep 2008 02:26:17 +0000

I agree that the polling sucks and misrepresents what the populace actually thinks, but calling Zogby a Zionist is pure horse shit.

Thanks for setting the record straight on Zogby.

By: opeluboy

opeluboy — Wed, 17 Sep 2008 23:45:11 +0000

Um, John Zogby is an Arab-American. His brother James is a tireless advocate for Palestine and other Arab issues and was a founding member and leader of the Palestine Human Rights Campaign, the American-Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee, and Save Lebanon, Inc. He is now president of the Arab American Institute.

I agree that the polling sucks and misrepresents what the populace actually thinks, but calling Zogby a Zionist is pure horse shit.

By: Michael Collins

Michael Collins — Wed, 17 Sep 2008 04:13:01 +0000

Socialism, funny you mention Caligula. When I’m with people talking about what’s the next outrage, I’m like to say, “I wouldn’t be surprised if Bush appointed a horse to the Senate.” Real choice is not present but a sharp move away from mendacity and failure, non stop, is essential. People are exhausted.

By: Deadbeat

Deadbeat — Tue, 16 Sep 2008 21:28:01 +0000

Shabnam,

Thanks for the information on Zogby.

By: Shabnam

Shabnam — Tue, 16 Sep 2008 17:50:05 +0000

No one trusts ZOGBY because he is a Zionist to the core. Examples are found in a recent Gallup poll on Iran, Paid for by USA Today. The press lied again to say that the majority of Americans favor a preemptive strike on Iran, the same way Zionist Jews sold Iraq war to AMERICAN FOOLS. The media never expose the manufactured ‘crisis’ directed by the Zionist pro Israel groups. Zogby made an interview with Tucker Carlson of MSNBC where he allowed himself to be part of an interview that concluded, “A slim majority favor a US attack on Iran.” He Also writes in his pro Zionist editorial column that “American people seem to be about as much inclined to bomb Iran as they were to hitting Iraq five years ago.” He is part of the Zionist Jews fifth columnists who are using the foolish president, George Bush, to wage another Zionist war to establish “The greater Israel” hidden under “The greater middle East” to bring the Zionist to rule the world by establishment of the “World Government” headed bu the Zionist elders and their extension, the Rothschild family. The empire building and British
‘imperialism’ was directed by the policy of Benjamin Disraeli, Prime Minister in late 19th century Britain, who built the British empire and directed its ‘imperialist’ policies against his political opponent’ wish, Gladstone, because an empire is needs to expand the influence and the interest of the private groups such as Rothschild family within the empire who are the real ruler of the empire. This family and his associates decided to topple the Othman Empire using Britain army to manufacture ‘crisis’ and ‘minorities’ to achieve their goals to steal real assets of the people to expand their wealth even further. The Zionist Rothschild family and their extension used the British imperialism, built by Benjamin Disraeli policy to influence British political elites to steal PALESTINE to establish ‘a Jewish state’ in the Middle East which has a lot of natural resources, REAL ASSETS not phony assets on paper, to set one state against the other to weaken each other, like the Othman empire, through ‘DIVE AND CONQUARE’ and gradually to establish
‘WORLD GOVERNMENT’ ruled by the Zionists. The work of the GATEKEEPERS who are mainly coming from Zionist Trotskists is important to keep the fools misguided as ever. Majority of this gatekeepers are pro “world government’ where they assume the center is going to be ‘Jerusalem.’ People must leave their petty differences aside and be united against the common enemy of all, the Zionists.

By: Socialism: Next Stage in Political Systems. Socialism will come to USA wether capitalists like it or not !!

Tue, 16 Sep 2008 16:24:20 +0000

Give me 100000000 Caligulas over 1 Republican Party Leader.

By: Socialism: Next Stage in Political Systems. Socialism will come to USA wether capitalists like it or not !!

Tue, 16 Sep 2008 16:23:37 +0000

hmmm, i am socialist, but i will vote for Obama. We have to get rid of the Republic-Rats even if we have to vote for Caligula, Hitler or Lucifer. The Republican Party are the most evil organization of this world !!

By: Michael Collins

Michael Collins — Tue, 16 Sep 2008 15:40:16 +0000

There are any number of reasons to doubt the national polls. Here are two expositions of how extensive and significant the poll rigging gets. Election 2004: The Urban Legend & Notes from the Underground It is a volatile electorate. Obama raised $55 million in August, he has record crowds across the country, and he's actually developing a message, a clear one, on the economy. See that on corporate media. What you do see is fear and loathing by the owners of that media at the prospedt of "President Palin." Now the Republicans have gone too far and it's time for them to lose this one. It will matter on one level, but on another, with the money in campaigns today, the prospect of an activist Congress in 2008 is about as viable as the reform record of the 2006 Congress.

By: Deadbeat

Deadbeat — Tue, 16 Sep 2008 13:22:27 +0000

The media has really given McCain a huge pass. It is clear that his campaign is out of his control and is a reflection is in incapacity to lead. His attacks on the Obama campaign has been clearly dishonest yet again the media plays it a a pox on both houses. It is clearly that the media’s game of “balance” leads to awful reporting and has tilts the balance in McCain direction.

the Gallup Poll that showed what looked like a McCain convention bounce. To “stand up” the bounce, Gallup simply added more Republicans to their sample, driving up McCain’s numbers.

This is very true and some “Left” anti-Obama writers has seized on these polls as evidence of their electoral “theories” without analyzing the veracity of the polls. Zogby for example only polls folks with landlines which essentially understates Obama supporters many of whom only use cell phone or VOIP (Internet) phones.

Now the meltdown on Wall Street clearly shifts the focus back to the economy and away from the Palin mantra. In one day the momentum is not shifted back to Obama.

It is clear that many on the Left seems to wants to ignore or worst belittle and isolate themselves from the real current brewing among the masses.