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	<title>Comments on: Dams: A Perspective on Temporary Prosperity</title>
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		<title>By: Lloyd Rowsey</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/09/dams-a-perspective-on-temporary-prosperity/#comment-28352</link>
		<dc:creator>Lloyd Rowsey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 14:04:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To wax philosophical:  it&#039;s about humanity&#039;s inability to comprehend the immensities of geological time.  We KNOW viscerally that we can&#039;t comprehend them, but MUST.  Just as we know we can&#039;t comprehend the immensities of space, and the immmensities of man&#039;s inumanities to man.  But We Must.  

Quite a downer, self-confidence-wise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To wax philosophical:  it&#8217;s about humanity&#8217;s inability to comprehend the immensities of geological time.  We KNOW viscerally that we can&#8217;t comprehend them, but MUST.  Just as we know we can&#8217;t comprehend the immensities of space, and the immmensities of man&#8217;s inumanities to man.  But We Must.  </p>
<p>Quite a downer, self-confidence-wise.</p>
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		<title>By: Lloyd Rowsey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lloyd Rowsey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 13:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glad you enjoyed it, cg.   Vidal is an American national treasure, whether in America or Italy.  I wouldn&#039;t suggest that his craggy visage replace Abe&#039;s on Mount Rushmore, but isn&#039;t Teddy&#039;s about due for a facelift....?

Thanks for the comment, HR.   The capitalists always have had the jump on anti-capitalists.  Something about control (and creation) of information.   But I won&#039;t even try to imagine the &quot;coverage&quot; of 2008&#039;s Peripheral Canal issue by that oracle of monied, celebrity-centered  idocy, the Los Angeles Times.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glad you enjoyed it, cg.   Vidal is an American national treasure, whether in America or Italy.  I wouldn&#8217;t suggest that his craggy visage replace Abe&#8217;s on Mount Rushmore, but isn&#8217;t Teddy&#8217;s about due for a facelift&#8230;.?</p>
<p>Thanks for the comment, HR.   The capitalists always have had the jump on anti-capitalists.  Something about control (and creation) of information.   But I won&#8217;t even try to imagine the &#8220;coverage&#8221; of 2008&#8242;s Peripheral Canal issue by that oracle of monied, celebrity-centered  idocy, the Los Angeles Times.</p>
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		<title>By: cg</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/09/dams-a-perspective-on-temporary-prosperity/#comment-28342</link>
		<dc:creator>cg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 04:17:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lloyd, your review of Uncle Gore&#039;s &quot;The Last Empire&quot; is on &quot;Lew Rockwell.com&quot; today. I enjoyed it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lloyd, your review of Uncle Gore&#8217;s &#8220;The Last Empire&#8221; is on &#8220;Lew Rockwell.com&#8221; today. I enjoyed it.</p>
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		<title>By: bill rowe</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/09/dams-a-perspective-on-temporary-prosperity/#comment-28336</link>
		<dc:creator>bill rowe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 01:41:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i think damming everything ,everywhere, it is economically worthwhile is far and away our best option</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think damming everything ,everywhere, it is economically worthwhile is far and away our best option</p>
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		<title>By: HR</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/09/dams-a-perspective-on-temporary-prosperity/#comment-28330</link>
		<dc:creator>HR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 23:09:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lloyd, the infrastructure situation described in your excerpt is what happens in states where tax increases, and annual budgets, can be blocked by a minority of one third.

Personally, I value free-running streams far more than I ever did L.A.  I am a (northern) California native who left after 52 years because I just got sick of all the water development and other habitat destruction there, all done despite the much-decried California Environmental Quality Act (enacted in the 70s).  Now CA is back to serious consideration of a Peripheral Canal (defeated by voters in 1982) to divert even more taxpayer-subsidized water to already subsidized San Joaquin Valley agribusiness.  This water will come from the long-dammed and diverted Sacramento and Trinity rivers ... so these welfare kings and queens can grow more cotton and other water-intensive crops in a desert.  What a sorry &quot;state&quot; of affairs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lloyd, the infrastructure situation described in your excerpt is what happens in states where tax increases, and annual budgets, can be blocked by a minority of one third.</p>
<p>Personally, I value free-running streams far more than I ever did L.A.  I am a (northern) California native who left after 52 years because I just got sick of all the water development and other habitat destruction there, all done despite the much-decried California Environmental Quality Act (enacted in the 70s).  Now CA is back to serious consideration of a Peripheral Canal (defeated by voters in 1982) to divert even more taxpayer-subsidized water to already subsidized San Joaquin Valley agribusiness.  This water will come from the long-dammed and diverted Sacramento and Trinity rivers &#8230; so these welfare kings and queens can grow more cotton and other water-intensive crops in a desert.  What a sorry &#8220;state&#8221; of affairs.</p>
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		<title>By: Lloyd Rowsey</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/09/dams-a-perspective-on-temporary-prosperity/#comment-28328</link>
		<dc:creator>Lloyd Rowsey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 22:43:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read this article and my mind kept returning to Cadallic Desert, and what seemed fifteen years ago to be the bottom line question:  How do you compare the value of a Los Angeles to the cost of silted-up dams all over the state of California?

Now, how quickly the time-line itself has changed.  Just yesterday, I read a few lines by a Los Angelino:    

&quot;Los Angeles, once the very definition of urban modernity, has fallen woefully behind.  I am working on a piece about this very subject.  It is disgraceful how neglected the nation&#039;s second largest city (aka the nation&#039;s most populous county) is.  Roads, schools, tech infrastructure in L.A. have all been stuck where they were 10 years ago, and what upgrades have been made have been cosmetic.&quot;  -   A Comment in OpEdNews by Michael Fox, on Tuesday, September 16, 2008. 

And re-reading those lines today, I almost wept.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read this article and my mind kept returning to Cadallic Desert, and what seemed fifteen years ago to be the bottom line question:  How do you compare the value of a Los Angeles to the cost of silted-up dams all over the state of California?</p>
<p>Now, how quickly the time-line itself has changed.  Just yesterday, I read a few lines by a Los Angelino:    </p>
<p>&#8220;Los Angeles, once the very definition of urban modernity, has fallen woefully behind.  I am working on a piece about this very subject.  It is disgraceful how neglected the nation&#8217;s second largest city (aka the nation&#8217;s most populous county) is.  Roads, schools, tech infrastructure in L.A. have all been stuck where they were 10 years ago, and what upgrades have been made have been cosmetic.&#8221;  &#8211;   A Comment in OpEdNews by Michael Fox, on Tuesday, September 16, 2008. </p>
<p>And re-reading those lines today, I almost wept.</p>
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