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		<title>By: cg</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/09/%e2%80%9csenator-mccain-is-absolutely-right%e2%80%9d/#comment-29097</link>
		<dc:creator>cg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 02:04:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here&#039;s the bailout bill the lizards voted on.
Do you see anything about 700 billion dollars for wall street?
Must be the &quot;and for other purposes.&quot;
What sleaze bags.

BILL TITLE: To amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to provide earnings assistance and tax relief to members of the uniformed services, volunteer firefighters, and Peace Corps volunteers, and for other purposes]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s the bailout bill the lizards voted on.<br />
Do you see anything about 700 billion dollars for wall street?<br />
Must be the &#8220;and for other purposes.&#8221;<br />
What sleaze bags.</p>
<p>BILL TITLE: To amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to provide earnings assistance and tax relief to members of the uniformed services, volunteer firefighters, and Peace Corps volunteers, and for other purposes</p>
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		<title>By: bozhidar  bob  balkas</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/09/%e2%80%9csenator-mccain-is-absolutely-right%e2%80%9d/#comment-29062</link>
		<dc:creator>bozhidar  bob  balkas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 17:50:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[both mccain and obama have embedded scripts in their respective brains.
the questions to be asked and answered r also prewritten and memorized. 
some of the questions will not be put to either one of them:
can one wage a war based on truth/fairness/prudence?
is constitution an interpretative document?
can it be understood? and if so by whom?
will deception/lies by politicos to amers continue w.o. any penalty to liars?
is it fair that US uses ab 20% of our resources?
is it fair that US threatens  first use of wmd?
wasn&#039;t the US the first to have used wmd against civs?
is it wise to talk ab USA as the greatest country in the world while killing women and children?
why not the same or similar  medicare  of many other lands? thnx
isn&#039;t cia the largest terrorist org?
etcetc]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>both mccain and obama have embedded scripts in their respective brains.<br />
the questions to be asked and answered r also prewritten and memorized.<br />
some of the questions will not be put to either one of them:<br />
can one wage a war based on truth/fairness/prudence?<br />
is constitution an interpretative document?<br />
can it be understood? and if so by whom?<br />
will deception/lies by politicos to amers continue w.o. any penalty to liars?<br />
is it fair that US uses ab 20% of our resources?<br />
is it fair that US threatens  first use of wmd?<br />
wasn&#8217;t the US the first to have used wmd against civs?<br />
is it wise to talk ab USA as the greatest country in the world while killing women and children?<br />
why not the same or similar  medicare  of many other lands? thnx<br />
isn&#8217;t cia the largest terrorist org?<br />
etcetc</p>
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		<title>By: Jerry D. Rose</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/09/%e2%80%9csenator-mccain-is-absolutely-right%e2%80%9d/#comment-29056</link>
		<dc:creator>Jerry D. Rose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 15:54:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What could possibly demonstrate the &quot;we agree&quot; mentality of the Democratic and Republican parties than the outcome of yesterday&#039;s vote on the bailout legislation? The New York Times and other establishment media characterized the situation as a &quot;failure of leadership,&quot; a failure of  in the White House and Congress of both parties and both presidential candidates to bring the majority of the House around the view that the sky would fall unless the legislation were passed.  To me it was more like a &quot;success of democracy&quot; as the &quot;genius&quot; of our Constitution decrees that every member of Congress must submit to the will of the voters every 2 years if he/she is to remain in Congress.  Would that the party and media bureaucracies that determine who will participate in debates and how they are to be structured were so subjected to public accountability!  Maybe if the Presidential Debate Commission and the networks were as responsive to public opinion, there would be some iota of hope that some of those &quot;voices&quot; (Nader, McKinney, Barr) that Zeese notes could make real &quot;debates&quot; out of obnoxious pissing contests.  I&#039;m happy to see that Kevin Zeese is &quot;on the beat&quot; in the electoral integrity issue, but really what &quot;integrity&quot; can there be in an electoral system in which alternative voices and policy alternatives are kept from the awarness of the people?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What could possibly demonstrate the &#8220;we agree&#8221; mentality of the Democratic and Republican parties than the outcome of yesterday&#8217;s vote on the bailout legislation? The New York Times and other establishment media characterized the situation as a &#8220;failure of leadership,&#8221; a failure of  in the White House and Congress of both parties and both presidential candidates to bring the majority of the House around the view that the sky would fall unless the legislation were passed.  To me it was more like a &#8220;success of democracy&#8221; as the &#8220;genius&#8221; of our Constitution decrees that every member of Congress must submit to the will of the voters every 2 years if he/she is to remain in Congress.  Would that the party and media bureaucracies that determine who will participate in debates and how they are to be structured were so subjected to public accountability!  Maybe if the Presidential Debate Commission and the networks were as responsive to public opinion, there would be some iota of hope that some of those &#8220;voices&#8221; (Nader, McKinney, Barr) that Zeese notes could make real &#8220;debates&#8221; out of obnoxious pissing contests.  I&#8217;m happy to see that Kevin Zeese is &#8220;on the beat&#8221; in the electoral integrity issue, but really what &#8220;integrity&#8221; can there be in an electoral system in which alternative voices and policy alternatives are kept from the awarness of the people?</p>
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		<title>By: same as it ever was</title>
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		<dc:creator>same as it ever was</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 23:38:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Wall Street Bailout Bill:
Bush McCain Obama et al.

The Realignment Of American Politics:
Anderson Baldwin Carter Choate Clemente Gonzalez Gravel Kaptur Kucinich McKinney Nader Paul Perot Sheehan Ventura]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Wall Street Bailout Bill:<br />
Bush McCain Obama et al.</p>
<p>The Realignment Of American Politics:<br />
Anderson Baldwin Carter Choate Clemente Gonzalez Gravel Kaptur Kucinich McKinney Nader Paul Perot Sheehan Ventura</p>
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		<title>By: Erroll</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/09/%e2%80%9csenator-mccain-is-absolutely-right%e2%80%9d/#comment-29033</link>
		<dc:creator>Erroll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 23:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Martha

Well said.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Martha</p>
<p>Well said.</p>
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		<title>By: Martha</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/09/%e2%80%9csenator-mccain-is-absolutely-right%e2%80%9d/#comment-29032</link>
		<dc:creator>Martha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 22:59:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Zeese asserts McCain talked over Barack.  Actually they both repeatedly talked over each other.  Which would indicate Zeese allowed his own likes and dislikes to color his perception.  Equally true is Barack asked the moderator for help.
The debate was an embarrassment and we don&#039;t need to hear &quot;Oh, mean McCain!&quot;  The two war hawks deserved each other and America deserves better.  Vote Cynthia McKinney or Ralph Nader and say &quot;NO!&quot; to the nonsense.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zeese asserts McCain talked over Barack.  Actually they both repeatedly talked over each other.  Which would indicate Zeese allowed his own likes and dislikes to color his perception.  Equally true is Barack asked the moderator for help.<br />
The debate was an embarrassment and we don&#8217;t need to hear &#8220;Oh, mean McCain!&#8221;  The two war hawks deserved each other and America deserves better.  Vote Cynthia McKinney or Ralph Nader and say &#8220;NO!&#8221; to the nonsense.</p>
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		<title>By: Deadbeat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deadbeat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 22:26:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;I listened to as much as I could (which wasn’t much, granted), and never even heard Obama debunk McCain’s most ham-handed lies, like the ones about American-based corporations suffering a competitive disadvantage from the tax rate&lt;/i&gt;

That&#039;s not completely accurate.  Obama did correct McCain regarding the effective tax rate that corporations actually pay due to tax loopholes when McCain stated that corporation in the U.S. has the highest rate in the world.

&lt;i&gt;When you look at the stable of Wall Street hacks that Obama has picked as his economic advisers, it should come as no surprise that he won’t discuss class inequality or criticize the “socialism for the rich” bailout plan proposed by the Bush cabal.&lt;/i&gt;

Here I agree with you.  Standing next to Robert Rubin and Laura Tyson doesn&#039;t build any confidence that Obama will fight Wall Street.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I listened to as much as I could (which wasn’t much, granted), and never even heard Obama debunk McCain’s most ham-handed lies, like the ones about American-based corporations suffering a competitive disadvantage from the tax rate</i></p>
<p>That&#8217;s not completely accurate.  Obama did correct McCain regarding the effective tax rate that corporations actually pay due to tax loopholes when McCain stated that corporation in the U.S. has the highest rate in the world.</p>
<p><i>When you look at the stable of Wall Street hacks that Obama has picked as his economic advisers, it should come as no surprise that he won’t discuss class inequality or criticize the “socialism for the rich” bailout plan proposed by the Bush cabal.</i></p>
<p>Here I agree with you.  Standing next to Robert Rubin and Laura Tyson doesn&#8217;t build any confidence that Obama will fight Wall Street.</p>
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		<title>By: bozhidar  bob  balkas</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/09/%e2%80%9csenator-mccain-is-absolutely-right%e2%80%9d/#comment-29022</link>
		<dc:creator>bozhidar  bob  balkas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 19:52:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[most people believe and/or led to believe that politics exist apart from everything else that is happeninig in the universe.
but also bad is the fact, that  this aspect of our being is  so narrow, so limited; w. firm boudaries of what is allowed to talk about.
nat, parameters for asking  questions is also set.
but to obtain answers from nature; oh so stingy w. answers, we need to ask her an indefinate number of questions.
nat, we can&#039;t go on and on asking all the questions that pertain to our doings and the doings of the nature but we have no time for that.
so, we can ask only the salient facts.
but the question arises, who chooses and asks questions?
sadly, up to now, only the ruling class puts questions to politicos; but, only if these lead to the answers that serves plutocrats, clergy, media, hollywood.
u people can understand that i cannot listen listen to politicos or clergy. thnx]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>most people believe and/or led to believe that politics exist apart from everything else that is happeninig in the universe.<br />
but also bad is the fact, that  this aspect of our being is  so narrow, so limited; w. firm boudaries of what is allowed to talk about.<br />
nat, parameters for asking  questions is also set.<br />
but to obtain answers from nature; oh so stingy w. answers, we need to ask her an indefinate number of questions.<br />
nat, we can&#8217;t go on and on asking all the questions that pertain to our doings and the doings of the nature but we have no time for that.<br />
so, we can ask only the salient facts.<br />
but the question arises, who chooses and asks questions?<br />
sadly, up to now, only the ruling class puts questions to politicos; but, only if these lead to the answers that serves plutocrats, clergy, media, hollywood.<br />
u people can understand that i cannot listen listen to politicos or clergy. thnx</p>
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		<title>By: Timber</title>
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		<dc:creator>Timber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 19:47:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is a surprise?  

I listened to as much as I could (which wasn&#039;t much, granted), and never even heard Obama debunk McCain&#039;s most ham-handed lies, like the ones about American-based corporations suffering a competitive disadvantage from the tax rate.  He never pointed out the number of corporations that either pay no taxes or get tax refunds, and didn&#039;t point out that in Japan where executives get paid 20 or 30 times a typical worker, as opposed to the 300-400 times an American executive often recieves, Japanese corporations somehow manage to outcompete their American counterparts.  Nor did he cite a statistic familiar to most DV readers, that somewhere between 1 and 5% of Americans and American corporations control from 75-90% of the wealth.  

When you look at the stable of Wall Street hacks that Obama has picked as his economic advisers, it should come as no surprise that he won&#039;t discuss class inequality or criticize the &quot;socialism for the rich&quot; bailout plan proposed by the Bush cabal.  

Obama is change that Wall Street and the military-industrial complex can believe in, and as has been the case for 8 or 12 years, the Democrats&#039; only defense against criticism from the left is that the GOP candidate would be worse.  They take no responsibility for allowing the political discourse in this country to drift further and further to the right over the past two decades due to their own cowardice and corruption, and they point to hysterical claims of Obama&#039;s liberalism from the right as proof that he is a progressive.  Outrageous.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a surprise?  </p>
<p>I listened to as much as I could (which wasn&#8217;t much, granted), and never even heard Obama debunk McCain&#8217;s most ham-handed lies, like the ones about American-based corporations suffering a competitive disadvantage from the tax rate.  He never pointed out the number of corporations that either pay no taxes or get tax refunds, and didn&#8217;t point out that in Japan where executives get paid 20 or 30 times a typical worker, as opposed to the 300-400 times an American executive often recieves, Japanese corporations somehow manage to outcompete their American counterparts.  Nor did he cite a statistic familiar to most DV readers, that somewhere between 1 and 5% of Americans and American corporations control from 75-90% of the wealth.  </p>
<p>When you look at the stable of Wall Street hacks that Obama has picked as his economic advisers, it should come as no surprise that he won&#8217;t discuss class inequality or criticize the &#8220;socialism for the rich&#8221; bailout plan proposed by the Bush cabal.  </p>
<p>Obama is change that Wall Street and the military-industrial complex can believe in, and as has been the case for 8 or 12 years, the Democrats&#8217; only defense against criticism from the left is that the GOP candidate would be worse.  They take no responsibility for allowing the political discourse in this country to drift further and further to the right over the past two decades due to their own cowardice and corruption, and they point to hysterical claims of Obama&#8217;s liberalism from the right as proof that he is a progressive.  Outrageous.</p>
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		<title>By: Erroll</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/09/%e2%80%9csenator-mccain-is-absolutely-right%e2%80%9d/#comment-29018</link>
		<dc:creator>Erroll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 19:44:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Obama seems determined to show that he can be just as tough as McCain when it comes to foreign policy even if that means invading foreign countries who have never threatened the United States and a consequence slaughtering many innocent civilians, many of whom are children.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama seems determined to show that he can be just as tough as McCain when it comes to foreign policy even if that means invading foreign countries who have never threatened the United States and a consequence slaughtering many innocent civilians, many of whom are children.</p>
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