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		<title>By: Richard Posner</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/08/yeah-martial-laws-really-only-a-problem-when-its-declared/#comment-25985</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Posner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 06:18:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TROLL ALERT
Please don&#039;t waste time and effort responding to anything &quot;Bob&quot; says.

“None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.”</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TROLL ALERT<br />
Please don&#8217;t waste time and effort responding to anything &#8220;Bob&#8221; says.</p>
<p>“None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.”</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/08/yeah-martial-laws-really-only-a-problem-when-its-declared/#comment-25982</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 04:53:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bob wrote:

&quot;Sam if your so sure, lets put dinner at Ruth’s Criss Steak House on it.&quot;

A steak house?  UGH.  How nasty!  Eating dead animals with all that blood running all over the plate.  No, I don&#039;t want any part of that.  Disgusting.  That won&#039;t work for me at all because I don&#039;t eat dead animals.  I&#039;m a vegetarian which is part of being a real, true progressive.  I don&#039;t feel that an animal should give up its life so that I can have a meal.

If you believe things will happen on schedule politically, fine. I don&#039;t believe it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob wrote:</p>
<p>&#8220;Sam if your so sure, lets put dinner at Ruth’s Criss Steak House on it.&#8221;</p>
<p>A steak house?  UGH.  How nasty!  Eating dead animals with all that blood running all over the plate.  No, I don&#8217;t want any part of that.  Disgusting.  That won&#8217;t work for me at all because I don&#8217;t eat dead animals.  I&#8217;m a vegetarian which is part of being a real, true progressive.  I don&#8217;t feel that an animal should give up its life so that I can have a meal.</p>
<p>If you believe things will happen on schedule politically, fine. I don&#8217;t believe it.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/08/yeah-martial-laws-really-only-a-problem-when-its-declared/#comment-25980</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 02:16:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My gosh, Mr. Drolette and some of you are paranoid! I heard and read the same sort of things in 2004: Bush was going to cancel the election, declare martial law, and round up all the dissidents!! 
Well it didn&#039;t quite happen then and it&#039;s not going to happen this year. 

&quot;Bush and Cheney are far more than employees of the ruling class. Particularly Cheney. The same can be said about John Kerry and Al Gore (they are employees of the ruling class), but it was Bush and Cheney and the Bush Crime Family who STOLE TWO presidential elections to grab power. And if anyone thinks they are going to walk away easily after all that they have put in place (Directive 51 comes to mind) and willingly hand over the dictatorship they have installed….well, I’ll believe when I see it. I don’t think they have any intention of going anywhere.&quot;
Sam if your so sure, lets put dinner at Ruth&#039;s Criss Steak House on it. 

The new President will be sworn in on schedule. The only glitch may be the left wing protesters trying to disrupt the inauguration, screaming McCain stole the election.   Which would be par for the course.
Bob</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My gosh, Mr. Drolette and some of you are paranoid! I heard and read the same sort of things in 2004: Bush was going to cancel the election, declare martial law, and round up all the dissidents!!<br />
Well it didn&#8217;t quite happen then and it&#8217;s not going to happen this year. </p>
<p>&#8220;Bush and Cheney are far more than employees of the ruling class. Particularly Cheney. The same can be said about John Kerry and Al Gore (they are employees of the ruling class), but it was Bush and Cheney and the Bush Crime Family who STOLE TWO presidential elections to grab power. And if anyone thinks they are going to walk away easily after all that they have put in place (Directive 51 comes to mind) and willingly hand over the dictatorship they have installed….well, I’ll believe when I see it. I don’t think they have any intention of going anywhere.&#8221;<br />
Sam if your so sure, lets put dinner at Ruth&#8217;s Criss Steak House on it. </p>
<p>The new President will be sworn in on schedule. The only glitch may be the left wing protesters trying to disrupt the inauguration, screaming McCain stole the election.   Which would be par for the course.<br />
Bob</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/08/yeah-martial-laws-really-only-a-problem-when-its-declared/#comment-25964</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 19:00:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MrSynec3  wrote:

QUOTE:

Mark,

You are wrong. Of course there will be an election. Bush and Cheney are just employees of the ruling class.

END QUOTE


MrSynec3, you don&#039;t know that there will be an &quot;election&quot; any more than I do.  You&#039;re just making the assumption that there will be one.   Under the illegitimate Bush regime, I don&#039;t make such assumptions.  So to say &quot;Mark, you are wrong&quot; is rather arrogant.  You seem to be living under the premise that we are in the days of &quot;politics as usual.&quot;  We aren&#039;t.  &quot;Politics as usual&quot; ended during the 2000 stolen &quot;election&quot; particularly the night of the Judicial Coup where the Supremes selected Bush/Cheney to occupy the White House.

Bush and Cheney are far more than employees of the ruling class.  Particularly Cheney. The same can be said about John Kerry and Al Gore (they are employees of the ruling class), but it was Bush and Cheney and the Bush Crime Family who STOLE TWO presidential elections to grab power.  And if anyone thinks they are going to walk away easily after all that they have put in place (Directive 51 comes to mind) and willingly hand over the dictatorship they have installed....well, I&#039;ll believe when I see it.  I don&#039;t think they have any intention of going anywhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MrSynec3  wrote:</p>
<p>QUOTE:</p>
<p>Mark,</p>
<p>You are wrong. Of course there will be an election. Bush and Cheney are just employees of the ruling class.</p>
<p>END QUOTE</p>
<p>MrSynec3, you don&#8217;t know that there will be an &#8220;election&#8221; any more than I do.  You&#8217;re just making the assumption that there will be one.   Under the illegitimate Bush regime, I don&#8217;t make such assumptions.  So to say &#8220;Mark, you are wrong&#8221; is rather arrogant.  You seem to be living under the premise that we are in the days of &#8220;politics as usual.&#8221;  We aren&#8217;t.  &#8220;Politics as usual&#8221; ended during the 2000 stolen &#8220;election&#8221; particularly the night of the Judicial Coup where the Supremes selected Bush/Cheney to occupy the White House.</p>
<p>Bush and Cheney are far more than employees of the ruling class.  Particularly Cheney. The same can be said about John Kerry and Al Gore (they are employees of the ruling class), but it was Bush and Cheney and the Bush Crime Family who STOLE TWO presidential elections to grab power.  And if anyone thinks they are going to walk away easily after all that they have put in place (Directive 51 comes to mind) and willingly hand over the dictatorship they have installed&#8230;.well, I&#8217;ll believe when I see it.  I don&#8217;t think they have any intention of going anywhere.</p>
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		<title>By: MrSynec3</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/08/yeah-martial-laws-really-only-a-problem-when-its-declared/#comment-25942</link>
		<dc:creator>MrSynec3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 08:27:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark,

You are wrong.  Of course there will be an election.   Bush and Cheney are just employees of the ruling class. The next president whether it is
Obama or McCain will be the new employee and will continue exactly 
the same policies foreign and domestic.  For the ruling class, head they win , tail they win.  Elections are just a theatrical show and a make belief.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark,</p>
<p>You are wrong.  Of course there will be an election.   Bush and Cheney are just employees of the ruling class. The next president whether it is<br />
Obama or McCain will be the new employee and will continue exactly<br />
the same policies foreign and domestic.  For the ruling class, head they win , tail they win.  Elections are just a theatrical show and a make belief.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Anybody</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/08/yeah-martial-laws-really-only-a-problem-when-its-declared/#comment-25932</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Anybody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 19:30:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what A kick ass article
well written
heck I am going to post this on my web page over at 
joe-anybody dot com

thanks for writing this 
you eloquently put the Dolt in perspective

this discussion will be the same one I will be having this weekend at my family reunion

I hate to ruin the reunion (head in the sand  get together) ...I  am sure terrorism, fear, war, privacy, the constitution , heabus corpus, topics will not even be discussed...  unless I bring them to the happy table. (and I will ...as always)

Living (surrounded) around Ignorance it sure feels good to see articles like this one 
keep up the good fight.. your words and the writing were excellent

check out my FEMA CAMPS link when ya get a moment
http://www.joe-anybody.com/id69.html

Working For Peace &amp; Justice 
~Joe Anybody</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what A kick ass article<br />
well written<br />
heck I am going to post this on my web page over at<br />
joe-anybody dot com</p>
<p>thanks for writing this<br />
you eloquently put the Dolt in perspective</p>
<p>this discussion will be the same one I will be having this weekend at my family reunion</p>
<p>I hate to ruin the reunion (head in the sand  get together) &#8230;I  am sure terrorism, fear, war, privacy, the constitution , heabus corpus, topics will not even be discussed&#8230;  unless I bring them to the happy table. (and I will &#8230;as always)</p>
<p>Living (surrounded) around Ignorance it sure feels good to see articles like this one<br />
keep up the good fight.. your words and the writing were excellent</p>
<p>check out my FEMA CAMPS link when ya get a moment<br />
<a href="http://www.joe-anybody.com/id69.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.joe-anybody.com/id69.html</a></p>
<p>Working For Peace &amp; Justice<br />
~Joe Anybody</p>
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		<title>By: Arch Stanton</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/08/yeah-martial-laws-really-only-a-problem-when-its-declared/#comment-25931</link>
		<dc:creator>Arch Stanton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 18:48:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Neo-nazis a problem?  Martial &quot;law&quot; getting you down?  Pissed about a crushed and neglected infrastructure?  For a limited time only you can get both the Iraqi and Afghani Insurgency Manuals for one low price.  Act now.  Operators are standing by.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neo-nazis a problem?  Martial &#8220;law&#8221; getting you down?  Pissed about a crushed and neglected infrastructure?  For a limited time only you can get both the Iraqi and Afghani Insurgency Manuals for one low price.  Act now.  Operators are standing by.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 10:29:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Correction to my previous comment.  I had a typo.  It should read:

&quot;They also write their comments as if it would be absolutely impossible for Bush, Cheney et al to STAY on past January 2009...&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Correction to my previous comment.  I had a typo.  It should read:</p>
<p>&#8220;They also write their comments as if it would be absolutely impossible for Bush, Cheney et al to STAY on past January 2009&#8230;&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 10:24:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark,

If you really had that conversation, you have more patience than I do!  I&#039;ve learned to just walk away from Bush-programmed sheep like that because I&#039;ve learned it&#039;s a waste of my time to try to engage in a conversation/debate with them.  Nothing I say or any credible articles, links or facts I could present would have any bearing whatsoever on such a person.  That type of person agrees with ANYTHING Bush does.  Without question, they continue to believe all the lies that come out of the illegitimate Bush regime and Fox &quot;News.&quot;  Such sheep will live very comfortable in a full-blown Dictatorship, while mindlessly waving their flag.

As far as the things you brought up in your conversation, many of them I have found that most so-called &quot;progressives&quot; don&#039;t even want to talk about, especially the topic of the easily-hackable e-voting machines which are all over the nation now.  Most so-called &quot;progressives&quot; write their comments as if we have fair, honest and legitimate elections.  That&#039;s DENIAL.  They also write their comments as if it would be absolutely impossible for Bush, Cheney et al to say on past January 2009, despite all the criminality they have done so far.  Some (most?) people STILL don&#039;t seem to understand who and what these Bush people are and are about, despite everything we have seen from them.

Bush and Cheney may leave in January, but I&#039;m not expecting them to.  And even if they do, their agenda will continue under Obama or McCain. Does anyone honestly and truly think---versus wishful-thinking and false hope---that Walk-On-Water Obama would abolish the Department of Homeland InSecurity or the USAPATRIOT ACT or legal spying on US citizens, as some examples?  I-don&#039;t-think-so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark,</p>
<p>If you really had that conversation, you have more patience than I do!  I&#8217;ve learned to just walk away from Bush-programmed sheep like that because I&#8217;ve learned it&#8217;s a waste of my time to try to engage in a conversation/debate with them.  Nothing I say or any credible articles, links or facts I could present would have any bearing whatsoever on such a person.  That type of person agrees with ANYTHING Bush does.  Without question, they continue to believe all the lies that come out of the illegitimate Bush regime and Fox &#8220;News.&#8221;  Such sheep will live very comfortable in a full-blown Dictatorship, while mindlessly waving their flag.</p>
<p>As far as the things you brought up in your conversation, many of them I have found that most so-called &#8220;progressives&#8221; don&#8217;t even want to talk about, especially the topic of the easily-hackable e-voting machines which are all over the nation now.  Most so-called &#8220;progressives&#8221; write their comments as if we have fair, honest and legitimate elections.  That&#8217;s DENIAL.  They also write their comments as if it would be absolutely impossible for Bush, Cheney et al to say on past January 2009, despite all the criminality they have done so far.  Some (most?) people STILL don&#8217;t seem to understand who and what these Bush people are and are about, despite everything we have seen from them.</p>
<p>Bush and Cheney may leave in January, but I&#8217;m not expecting them to.  And even if they do, their agenda will continue under Obama or McCain. Does anyone honestly and truly think&#8212;versus wishful-thinking and false hope&#8212;that Walk-On-Water Obama would abolish the Department of Homeland InSecurity or the USAPATRIOT ACT or legal spying on US citizens, as some examples?  I-don&#8217;t-think-so.</p>
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		<title>By: mary</title>
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		<dc:creator>mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 15:32:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark -  hope you are getting on well with your new life in Costa Rica. I expect you are very thankful you made the move.

&#039;Apolitica&#039; and &#039;Dolton&#039; are  your imaginary literary devices to enable you to make your point I believe. Hilarious stuff but the messages behind are chilling. We are going the same way in the UK I&#039;m afraid to say.

PS I know a Guide Dog here in the UK called Dalton. I expect he&#039;s a lot brighter than your &#039;Dolton&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark &#8211;  hope you are getting on well with your new life in Costa Rica. I expect you are very thankful you made the move.</p>
<p>&#8216;Apolitica&#8217; and &#8216;Dolton&#8217; are  your imaginary literary devices to enable you to make your point I believe. Hilarious stuff but the messages behind are chilling. We are going the same way in the UK I&#8217;m afraid to say.</p>
<p>PS I know a Guide Dog here in the UK called Dalton. I expect he&#8217;s a lot brighter than your &#8216;Dolton&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: bozhidar balkas</title>
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		<dc:creator>bozhidar balkas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 15:19:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i&#039;m also in mood for joking. listen to this advice (this is for men only), When women wear long pants it means the r not for sale or on sale.
so, don&#039;t u be asking.
my wife gave a me a good advice. she said, Bob (she can&#039;t pronounce my real name) u&#039;r 86 yrs old; u don&#039;t have to listen any more; u don&#039;t have to learn a thing any more; u have the right to be stupid.
finally, my most basic human right was recognized.
can any of  u top this advice? oh, it feels so goood! thank u</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i&#8217;m also in mood for joking. listen to this advice (this is for men only), When women wear long pants it means the r not for sale or on sale.<br />
so, don&#8217;t u be asking.<br />
my wife gave a me a good advice. she said, Bob (she can&#8217;t pronounce my real name) u&#8217;r 86 yrs old; u don&#8217;t have to listen any more; u don&#8217;t have to learn a thing any more; u have the right to be stupid.<br />
finally, my most basic human right was recognized.<br />
can any of  u top this advice? oh, it feels so goood! thank u</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Joad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Joad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 14:37:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark is a wuss. If this had happened to me the conversation would have gone like this. 

“Hey, Mark!” taunted my right-wing brother-in-law. “Who ya gonna vote for in the election?”

THUD (Me hitting him), THUD (He hits the wall), THUD (He hits the floor after slumping down the wall). 

End of conversation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark is a wuss. If this had happened to me the conversation would have gone like this. </p>
<p>“Hey, Mark!” taunted my right-wing brother-in-law. “Who ya gonna vote for in the election?”</p>
<p>THUD (Me hitting him), THUD (He hits the wall), THUD (He hits the floor after slumping down the wall). </p>
<p>End of conversation.</p>
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		<title>By: Donald Hawkins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donald Hawkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 14:35:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark it looks like Costa Rica is a good place for thinking, indeed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark it looks like Costa Rica is a good place for thinking, indeed.</p>
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