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		<title>By: James Keye</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/08/we-cant-get-there-from-here/#comment-26967</link>
		<dc:creator>James Keye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2008 20:39:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Walt,
You seem to be suffering from a rather deep confusion.  I would be interested in hearing how you came to the positions that you present in your comment on my essay.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Walt,<br />
You seem to be suffering from a rather deep confusion.  I would be interested in hearing how you came to the positions that you present in your comment on my essay.</p>
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		<title>By: Walt</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/08/we-cant-get-there-from-here/#comment-26884</link>
		<dc:creator>Walt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 14:48:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm, evolution was a observational thought by a man (Charles Darwin) not a scientist.  It is a dead science at best, laughable in context of true science. Beating a dead horse never won a race. Please for those of you who believe this foolishness, look at Louis Pasteur&#039;s studies, look at &quot;Red Shift&quot; in Cosmology.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm, evolution was a observational thought by a man (Charles Darwin) not a scientist.  It is a dead science at best, laughable in context of true science. Beating a dead horse never won a race. Please for those of you who believe this foolishness, look at Louis Pasteur&#8217;s studies, look at &#8220;Red Shift&#8221; in Cosmology.</p>
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		<title>By: bozhidar balkas</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/08/we-cant-get-there-from-here/#comment-26451</link>
		<dc:creator>bozhidar balkas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 18:42:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>at certain stage of our panhuman development, psychos begun to use panhuman trust (one of our greatest wealths  now and a mn yrs ago) to gain prominence/wealth/power.
until that time it was mostly one for all and all for one and each word used had full symbolic value.
if the order had been like today we humans wld have perished long time ago.
if 100td yrs ago  a tribe had just 10 young women all were looked after equally.
nether the looks nor the brains mattered; only their health and life.
it can be assumed that 200td yrs ago there was no interhuman warfare.
and then cam psychopaths.....  thank u</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>at certain stage of our panhuman development, psychos begun to use panhuman trust (one of our greatest wealths  now and a mn yrs ago) to gain prominence/wealth/power.<br />
until that time it was mostly one for all and all for one and each word used had full symbolic value.<br />
if the order had been like today we humans wld have perished long time ago.<br />
if 100td yrs ago  a tribe had just 10 young women all were looked after equally.<br />
nether the looks nor the brains mattered; only their health and life.<br />
it can be assumed that 200td yrs ago there was no interhuman warfare.<br />
and then cam psychopaths&#8230;..  thank u</p>
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		<title>By: Giorgio</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/08/we-cant-get-there-from-here/#comment-26420</link>
		<dc:creator>Giorgio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 03:14:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The little guy in this world commits a crime, eg. murder, and  promptly get capital punishment or at the very least life emprisonment.
Al Capone did not  killed a soul himself;  his foot soldiers did the dirty work for him.  So he was never charged for murder.
Another big guy, eg. GW Bush, commits mass murder and so too he gets off scot-free.
This simple TRUTH is  at the kernel of humanity&#039;s problems. 
Accountability is inversely proportional to  power. The more powerful the less accountable. This simple.  
As more and more power is being concentrated in the hands of fewer and fewer individuals so expect more and more of the same,ie. more mass murdering... 

So my own personal wisdom to  “If you can’t get there from here, then you better get started early” and  “If you need a helping hand, look to the end of your arm.” is to get started early and  use what is at the end of my arms and build my own NUKE SHELTER and pray to God for it&#039;s later than you think....and only come out when the above truth is reversed, ie. the bigger a guy, the more accountable he becomes....
Again, it&#039;s this simple! 
And forget ALL that intellectual rhetoric! I piss on it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The little guy in this world commits a crime, eg. murder, and  promptly get capital punishment or at the very least life emprisonment.<br />
Al Capone did not  killed a soul himself;  his foot soldiers did the dirty work for him.  So he was never charged for murder.<br />
Another big guy, eg. GW Bush, commits mass murder and so too he gets off scot-free.<br />
This simple TRUTH is  at the kernel of humanity&#8217;s problems.<br />
Accountability is inversely proportional to  power. The more powerful the less accountable. This simple.<br />
As more and more power is being concentrated in the hands of fewer and fewer individuals so expect more and more of the same,ie. more mass murdering&#8230; </p>
<p>So my own personal wisdom to  “If you can’t get there from here, then you better get started early” and  “If you need a helping hand, look to the end of your arm.” is to get started early and  use what is at the end of my arms and build my own NUKE SHELTER and pray to God for it&#8217;s later than you think&#8230;.and only come out when the above truth is reversed, ie. the bigger a guy, the more accountable he becomes&#8230;.<br />
Again, it&#8217;s this simple!<br />
And forget ALL that intellectual rhetoric! I piss on it!</p>
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		<title>By: Donald Hawkins</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/08/we-cant-get-there-from-here/#comment-26418</link>
		<dc:creator>Donald Hawkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 02:42:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In this possibly terminal phase of human existence.  Possibly is the word and being stuck on stupid will take us to that terminal phase.  Last night on Fox someone said climate change is a hoax.  I could write a thousand words to try and make sense of this madness but how about there is a war going on two sides one wants to use knowledge for the betterment and survival of the human race the other side wants to keep using stupid as the answer it&#039;s the money and who will win on this path, nobody.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this possibly terminal phase of human existence.  Possibly is the word and being stuck on stupid will take us to that terminal phase.  Last night on Fox someone said climate change is a hoax.  I could write a thousand words to try and make sense of this madness but how about there is a war going on two sides one wants to use knowledge for the betterment and survival of the human race the other side wants to keep using stupid as the answer it&#8217;s the money and who will win on this path, nobody.</p>
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		<title>By: Arch Stanton</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/08/we-cant-get-there-from-here/#comment-26399</link>
		<dc:creator>Arch Stanton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 18:47:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Blind men and women have been the motor of modern history and the source of endless misery and destruction. Aspiring leaders of great powers can neither understand nor admit the fact that their strategies are extremely dangerous because statecraft by its very nature always calculates the ability of a nation&#039;s military and economic resources to overcome whatever challenges it confronts.  To reject such traditional reasoning, and to question the value of conventional wisdom and react to international crises realistically on the basis of past failures would make them unsuited to command.  The result is that politicians succeed in terms of their personal careers, states make monumental errors, and people suffer.&quot;

--Gabriel Kolko from The Age of War: The United States Confronts the World 



“Modern industrial civilization has developed within a certain system of convenient myths. The driving force of modern industrial civilization has been individual material gain, which is accepted as legitimate even praiseworthy, on the grounds that private vices yield public benefits, in the classic formulation.
Now it’s long been understood very well that a society that is based on this principle, will destroy itself in time. It can only persist with whatever suffering and injustice it entails as long as it’s possible to pretend that the destructive forces that humans create, are limited, that the world is an infinite resource, and that the world is an infinite garbage can.
In this possibly terminal phase of human existence, democracy and freedom are more than values to be treasured; they may well be essential to survival.&quot;

--Noam Chomsky from Manufacturing Consent



&quot;We are doomed historically to history, to the patient construction of discourses about discourses, and to the task of hearing what has already been said.&quot;

--Michel Foucault from The Birth of the Clinic: An Archaeology of Medical Perception</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Blind men and women have been the motor of modern history and the source of endless misery and destruction. Aspiring leaders of great powers can neither understand nor admit the fact that their strategies are extremely dangerous because statecraft by its very nature always calculates the ability of a nation&#8217;s military and economic resources to overcome whatever challenges it confronts.  To reject such traditional reasoning, and to question the value of conventional wisdom and react to international crises realistically on the basis of past failures would make them unsuited to command.  The result is that politicians succeed in terms of their personal careers, states make monumental errors, and people suffer.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8211;Gabriel Kolko from The Age of War: The United States Confronts the World </p>
<p>“Modern industrial civilization has developed within a certain system of convenient myths. The driving force of modern industrial civilization has been individual material gain, which is accepted as legitimate even praiseworthy, on the grounds that private vices yield public benefits, in the classic formulation.<br />
Now it’s long been understood very well that a society that is based on this principle, will destroy itself in time. It can only persist with whatever suffering and injustice it entails as long as it’s possible to pretend that the destructive forces that humans create, are limited, that the world is an infinite resource, and that the world is an infinite garbage can.<br />
In this possibly terminal phase of human existence, democracy and freedom are more than values to be treasured; they may well be essential to survival.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8211;Noam Chomsky from Manufacturing Consent</p>
<p>&#8220;We are doomed historically to history, to the patient construction of discourses about discourses, and to the task of hearing what has already been said.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8211;Michel Foucault from The Birth of the Clinic: An Archaeology of Medical Perception</p>
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