Comments on: Blockades: Acts of War http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/08/blockades-acts-of-war/ a radical newsletter in the struggle for peace and social justice Sun, 22 Nov 2009 23:02:35 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Lloyd Rowsey http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/08/blockades-acts-of-war/#comment-26707 Lloyd Rowsey Wed, 20 Aug 2008 15:19:28 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=2551#comment-26707 And This Just In: US and Poland Sign Missle Deal, for the little puppies to be put on Polish soil. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7571660.stm Can missles on Japanese soil be far behind? Or are they already there? What we all need to keep in mind is that secrecy plays no role in the world of today. And using secrecy to explain reality is no more logical than astronomers using dark matter to explain galactic movements. And This Just In:

US and Poland Sign Missle Deal, for the little puppies to be put on Polish soil.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7571660.stm

Can missles on Japanese soil be far behind? Or are they already there?

What we all need to keep in mind is that secrecy plays no role in the world of today. And using secrecy to explain reality is no more logical than astronomers using dark matter to explain galactic movements.

]]> By: Lloyd Rowsey http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/08/blockades-acts-of-war/#comment-26706 Lloyd Rowsey Wed, 20 Aug 2008 15:06:12 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=2551#comment-26706 Just keep smiling, Michael. And posting these bluebirds. They almost makes me feel warm all over. Just keep smiling, Michael. And posting these bluebirds. They almost makes me feel warm all over.

]]> By: Michael Kenny http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/08/blockades-acts-of-war/#comment-26694 Michael Kenny Wed, 20 Aug 2008 12:59:20 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=2551#comment-26694 Americans are much too irrational! Everyone is going on about cold wars, hot wars, nuclear wars, holy wars and all sorts of other dire consequences. You've gone from some silly little thing in the Blakans to some silly little thing in the Baltic! I work with people of all EU nationalities and have contacts with Ukraine. Nobody, I mean nobody, in Europe is in any way worried about any of this. The Estonians are not wringing their hands, the Poles are not looking glum, the Ukrainians are not digging trenches! The US has demonstrated in Georgia that it will not go one on one with Russia, and logically, China. The US does not have the military forces to attack Iran and a naval blockade on its own is absurd. "[R}edeployment MAY be planned, and a blockade MAY ensue". And Laura Bush MAY be planning a dinner party at the White House and, the ultimate disaster, the transmitter MAY break down just as Mr Lendman's broadcast is about to start! This is just a broadcaster engaging in cheap scaremongering to promote his programme! Americans are much too irrational! Everyone is going on about cold wars, hot wars, nuclear wars, holy wars and all sorts of other dire consequences. You’ve gone from some silly little thing in the Blakans to some silly little thing in the Baltic!

I work with people of all EU nationalities and have contacts with Ukraine. Nobody, I mean nobody, in Europe is in any way worried about any of this. The Estonians are not wringing their hands, the Poles are not looking glum, the Ukrainians are not digging trenches! The US has demonstrated in Georgia that it will not go one on one with Russia, and logically, China. The US does not have the military forces to attack Iran and a naval blockade on its own is absurd.

“[R}edeployment MAY be planned, and a blockade MAY ensue”. And Laura Bush MAY be planning a dinner party at the White House and, the ultimate disaster, the transmitter MAY break down just as Mr Lendman’s broadcast is about to start! This is just a broadcaster engaging in cheap scaremongering to promote his programme!

]]> By: Lloyd Rowsey http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/08/blockades-acts-of-war/#comment-26689 Lloyd Rowsey Wed, 20 Aug 2008 11:40:29 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=2551#comment-26689 BTB, cg. It's well-known that both the United States and Iran have been actively placing mines in the Persian Gulf for years. Presumably in preparation for either a possible war or a possible blockade. Apparently over 1/5 of the world's oil consumption ships through the Straights of Hormuz. BTB, cg. It’s well-known that both the United States and Iran have been actively placing mines in the Persian Gulf for years. Presumably in preparation for either a possible war or a possible blockade. Apparently over 1/5 of the world’s oil consumption ships through the Straights of Hormuz.

]]> By: Lloyd Rowsey http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/08/blockades-acts-of-war/#comment-26686 Lloyd Rowsey Wed, 20 Aug 2008 10:49:54 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=2551#comment-26686 Good question, cg, and one I've been asking myself. I read a news piece several weeks ago saying that Iran could easily close off all access to the Persian Gulf with tactical missiles, because the Straits of Hormuz are (both) so narrow and so shallow. The article was explaining why the Chipmunk at that time had moved a United States nuclear aircraft carrier out of the Gulf and into the Indian Ocean, which is to say, out of harms way in the event of Iran's having turned the Persian Gulf into "a lake". I've been interested in learning more about the Straits, including the depth of the ocean over the shipping lanes there, ever since, and I had hoped that this article -- or some poster to this article - would provide me with some enlightenment. Can you provide me with any enlightment in this regard? Good question, cg, and one I’ve been asking myself. I read a news piece several weeks ago saying that Iran could easily close off all access to the Persian Gulf with tactical missiles, because the Straits of Hormuz are (both) so narrow and so shallow. The article was explaining why the Chipmunk at that time had moved a United States nuclear aircraft carrier out of the Gulf and into the Indian Ocean, which is to say, out of harms way in the event of Iran’s having turned the Persian Gulf into “a lake”. I’ve been interested in learning more about the Straits, including the depth of the ocean over the shipping lanes there, ever since, and I had hoped that this article — or some poster to this article – would provide me with some enlightenment. Can you provide me with any enlightment in this regard?

]]> By: OZ http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/08/blockades-acts-of-war/#comment-26682 OZ Wed, 20 Aug 2008 08:52:27 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=2551#comment-26682 Just as a side note, the Review Conference of the Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court, in which the discussions on the Crime of Aggression will take place, is to be held during the first semester of 2010. Just as a side note, the Review Conference of the Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court, in which the discussions on the Crime of Aggression will take place, is to be held during the first semester of 2010.

]]> By: cg http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/08/blockades-acts-of-war/#comment-26626 cg Tue, 19 Aug 2008 15:47:27 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=2551#comment-26626 Any nuclear explosions, either tactical weapons or especially the compromising of ship's reactors in those straits or the gulf proper will effectively contaminate this area for quite some time, will it not? Any nuclear explosions, either tactical weapons or especially the compromising of ship’s reactors in those straits or the gulf proper will effectively contaminate this area for quite some time, will it not?

]]> By: wemustrepent http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/08/blockades-acts-of-war/#comment-26623 wemustrepent Tue, 19 Aug 2008 15:33:27 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=2551#comment-26623 Suicide By Global Police It is alright to be worried, because fear causes action. Here is what is happening: "Suicide-by-cop" is a suicide method in which a person deliberately acts in a threatening way, with the goal of provoking a lethal response from a law enforcement officer, such as being shot to death. The United States is acting as the world's Police. World War 3 is in the making, and elements in the middle east are bent on Suicide By the Global Police. Suicide By Global Police
It is alright to be worried, because fear causes action.
Here is what is happening:
“Suicide-by-cop” is a suicide method in which a person deliberately
acts in a threatening way, with the goal of provoking a lethal response
from a law enforcement officer, such as being shot to death.
The United States is acting as the world’s Police.
World War 3 is in the making, and elements in the middle east
are bent on Suicide By the Global Police.

]]> By: Stephen Lendman http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/08/blockades-acts-of-war/#comment-26622 Stephen Lendman Tue, 19 Aug 2008 14:39:11 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=2551#comment-26622 Straits blockage has the Pentagon concerned enough to have countermeasures in place to prevent it. Big tankers need lots of maneuvering room. Two miles not that much clear. Remember the Exxon Valdez and others. Interceptor nuclear missiles a replay of 1962 Cuba when we came within an eyelash of nuclear war. And we had JFK then. How well I remember. Straits blockage has the Pentagon concerned enough to have countermeasures in place to prevent it. Big tankers need lots of maneuvering room. Two miles not that much clear. Remember the Exxon Valdez and others. Interceptor nuclear missiles a replay of 1962 Cuba when we came within an eyelash of nuclear war. And we had JFK then. How well I remember.

]]> By: Lloyd Rowsey http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/08/blockades-acts-of-war/#comment-26620 Lloyd Rowsey Tue, 19 Aug 2008 14:17:30 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=2551#comment-26620 Further this article. Considering the shipping channel through the Straits of Hormuz is about 2 miles wide (and, what, several hundred yards deep? I've been unable to find anything about its depth), the LOGISTICS of blockading Iran's use of the Strats, but not other nations' use, appear to me to be the problem from the point of view of the United States. With regard to the nuclear shield which the United States is in the process of getting eastern European countries (as well as Japan, somehow?) to participate in, a brief flash from CNN international news several weeks ago said that China and Russia had agreed to condemn the Shield. Then I heard and read no more about the matter. I posted the link to the CNN report here at DV, commenting that Bushco had accomplished the truly historical task of bringing China and Russia together. Further this article. Considering the shipping channel through the Straits of Hormuz is about 2 miles wide (and, what, several hundred yards deep? I’ve been unable to find anything about its depth), the LOGISTICS of blockading Iran’s use of the Strats, but not other nations’ use, appear to me to be the problem from the point of view of the United States.

With regard to the nuclear shield which the United States is in the process of getting eastern European countries (as well as Japan, somehow?) to participate in, a brief flash from CNN international news several weeks ago said that China and Russia had agreed to condemn the Shield. Then I heard and read no more about the matter. I posted the link to the CNN report here at DV, commenting that Bushco had accomplished the truly historical task of bringing China and Russia together.

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