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		<title>By: Lee Hall</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/07/what-the-devil-are-vegetarian-eggs/#comment-25072</link>
		<dc:creator>Lee Hall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 02:49:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Patricia: Question for you.  As it&#039;s now always the case -- this sensible idea of catering so that all IVU events are completely vegetarian (i.e., vegan) -- could the definition of &quot;vegetarian&quot; which one sees on a current &quot;Frequently Asked Questions&quot; page of the IVU website be changed to reflect that to the public?

http://www.ivu.org/faq/definitions.html

Would you be able to bring this up in Dresden?

I understand the allowance for eggs and dairy products was inserted into the IVU website after the 1996 World Vegetarian Congress.  Yet ethics, history, consistency, cultural inclusiveness, and environmental awareness all point the way to a definition that excludes the products of animal agribusiness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patricia: Question for you.  As it&#8217;s now always the case &#8212; this sensible idea of catering so that all IVU events are completely vegetarian (i.e., vegan) &#8212; could the definition of &#8220;vegetarian&#8221; which one sees on a current &#8220;Frequently Asked Questions&#8221; page of the IVU website be changed to reflect that to the public?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ivu.org/faq/definitions.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.ivu.org/faq/definitions.html</a></p>
<p>Would you be able to bring this up in Dresden?</p>
<p>I understand the allowance for eggs and dairy products was inserted into the IVU website after the 1996 World Vegetarian Congress.  Yet ethics, history, consistency, cultural inclusiveness, and environmental awareness all point the way to a definition that excludes the products of animal agribusiness.</p>
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		<title>By: Patricia</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/07/what-the-devil-are-vegetarian-eggs/#comment-25061</link>
		<dc:creator>Patricia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 20:45:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I and at least 500 other people will be at the International Vegetarian Union&#039;s conference the week after next.  It is being held in Dresden, where the first one was held a hundred years ago.  As is now always the case with IVU (and European Vegetarian Union) events, all the catering will be vegan, which ensures not only that it will be completely cruelty-free but will be acceptable to participants from all over the world (China, India, Brazil and the US as well as most if not all countries in Europe) and of various religions and none.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I and at least 500 other people will be at the International Vegetarian Union&#8217;s conference the week after next.  It is being held in Dresden, where the first one was held a hundred years ago.  As is now always the case with IVU (and European Vegetarian Union) events, all the catering will be vegan, which ensures not only that it will be completely cruelty-free but will be acceptable to participants from all over the world (China, India, Brazil and the US as well as most if not all countries in Europe) and of various religions and none.</p>
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		<title>By: Patricia</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/07/what-the-devil-are-vegetarian-eggs/#comment-25060</link>
		<dc:creator>Patricia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 20:39:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More information about Donald Watson and his friends who founded The Vegan Society in November 1944 (hence World Vegan Day being 1 November every year) can be found on www.vegansociety.com.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More information about Donald Watson and his friends who founded The Vegan Society in November 1944 (hence World Vegan Day being 1 November every year) can be found on <a href="http://www.vegansociety.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.vegansociety.com</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/07/what-the-devil-are-vegetarian-eggs/#comment-25059</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 20:37:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since I&#039;m a producer and marketer of cage free eggs, I hope you all don&#039;t mind comments from the dark side.    I just want to applaud the skepticism regarding the use of the term &quot;vegetarian eggs&quot;.   I refuse to put it on my own label and cringe when others put it on theirs.  Aside from the obvious offense it causes those who eschew eggs altogether for humane reasons, I found out recently that many consumers think the term means that the chickens are roaming around on pasture, eating green leafy things and the occassional worm.  Consequently, these eggs often outsell their organic counterpart because the buyer has been duped into thinking that the vegetarian egg is better than the organic by the very nature of the word&quot;vegetarian&quot;.  

I believe the term &quot;vegetarian eggs&quot; was actually first coined as a cynical swipe at vegetarians.  Because of the &quot;heat&quot; the conventional egg industry was and is feeling from animal welfare groups, it&#039;s a way to make a subtle dig.   Worse yet, through the law of unintended consequences, it has been wildly successful for the reason stated above, and now others are using the term just to stay competitive.    Here&#039;s how it came about:   Roughly 2% of conventional layer mash includes rendered animal fat.  The animal fat is used to boost energy and thereby increase production.  The only problem is that it brings with it the threat of illness being transmitted to the chicken and then to those who eat the egg.  Many of us cage free egg producers began taking animal fat out of the diet and making the claim &quot;No Animal Fat In Feed&quot; back in the ninties.  Then someone, I can&#039;t remember who, started claiming these kind of eggs were produced from hens fed a  &quot;vegetarian&quot; diet because there was no animal fat in the feed.  Pretty lame and worse, deceptive.   I don&#039;t think that anyone who is vegetarian or vegan would describe a diet of  60% non-human grade feed corn and 40% non human grade soy bean would as a vegetarian diet.  Those two together consitute 80 % of the feed mix for layer feed.  The rest are supplemental grains like barley and then just supplements, vitamins that is.  
Incredibly, some egg companies have used the term and still house the layer hens in cages.  

You&#039;re right to think that cage free production isn&#039;t very pretty, but I would say that if it is certified under an ISO audited third party certifier like Humane Farm Animal Care, there are some marketed improvements in conditions.   Such improvements would be increased space required per hen, natural light, perching and dust bathing areas, as well as the obvious benfit of being out of cages as long as they have adequate space.   You can look up HFAC&#039;s  Certified Humane standards for egg layers on their website.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since I&#8217;m a producer and marketer of cage free eggs, I hope you all don&#8217;t mind comments from the dark side.    I just want to applaud the skepticism regarding the use of the term &#8220;vegetarian eggs&#8221;.   I refuse to put it on my own label and cringe when others put it on theirs.  Aside from the obvious offense it causes those who eschew eggs altogether for humane reasons, I found out recently that many consumers think the term means that the chickens are roaming around on pasture, eating green leafy things and the occassional worm.  Consequently, these eggs often outsell their organic counterpart because the buyer has been duped into thinking that the vegetarian egg is better than the organic by the very nature of the word&#8221;vegetarian&#8221;.  </p>
<p>I believe the term &#8220;vegetarian eggs&#8221; was actually first coined as a cynical swipe at vegetarians.  Because of the &#8220;heat&#8221; the conventional egg industry was and is feeling from animal welfare groups, it&#8217;s a way to make a subtle dig.   Worse yet, through the law of unintended consequences, it has been wildly successful for the reason stated above, and now others are using the term just to stay competitive.    Here&#8217;s how it came about:   Roughly 2% of conventional layer mash includes rendered animal fat.  The animal fat is used to boost energy and thereby increase production.  The only problem is that it brings with it the threat of illness being transmitted to the chicken and then to those who eat the egg.  Many of us cage free egg producers began taking animal fat out of the diet and making the claim &#8220;No Animal Fat In Feed&#8221; back in the ninties.  Then someone, I can&#8217;t remember who, started claiming these kind of eggs were produced from hens fed a  &#8220;vegetarian&#8221; diet because there was no animal fat in the feed.  Pretty lame and worse, deceptive.   I don&#8217;t think that anyone who is vegetarian or vegan would describe a diet of  60% non-human grade feed corn and 40% non human grade soy bean would as a vegetarian diet.  Those two together consitute 80 % of the feed mix for layer feed.  The rest are supplemental grains like barley and then just supplements, vitamins that is.<br />
Incredibly, some egg companies have used the term and still house the layer hens in cages.  </p>
<p>You&#8217;re right to think that cage free production isn&#8217;t very pretty, but I would say that if it is certified under an ISO audited third party certifier like Humane Farm Animal Care, there are some marketed improvements in conditions.   Such improvements would be increased space required per hen, natural light, perching and dust bathing areas, as well as the obvious benfit of being out of cages as long as they have adequate space.   You can look up HFAC&#8217;s  Certified Humane standards for egg layers on their website.</p>
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		<title>By: Lloyd Rowsey</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/07/what-the-devil-are-vegetarian-eggs/#comment-25049</link>
		<dc:creator>Lloyd Rowsey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 17:59:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you, Doris Lin.  I can find all Lee’s articles at the DV homepage, simply by inserting “author/LeeHall” after “.org/” in the address box at the top, and clicking on the &quot;go&quot; button.

It&#039;s worth the trouble.

And thank you, Lee.  For further information on the history of vegetarianism and the word “vegan”.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, Doris Lin.  I can find all Lee’s articles at the DV homepage, simply by inserting “author/LeeHall” after “.org/” in the address box at the top, and clicking on the &#8220;go&#8221; button.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s worth the trouble.</p>
<p>And thank you, Lee.  For further information on the history of vegetarianism and the word “vegan”.</p>
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		<title>By: Doris Lin</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/07/what-the-devil-are-vegetarian-eggs/#comment-25023</link>
		<dc:creator>Doris Lin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 05:57:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lloyd,  for what it&#039;s worth, you can find a list of Lee Hall&#039;s articles here:
http://www.dissidentvoice.org/author/LeeHall/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lloyd,  for what it&#8217;s worth, you can find a list of Lee Hall&#8217;s articles here:<br />
<a href="http://www.dissidentvoice.org/author/LeeHall/" rel="nofollow">http://www.dissidentvoice.org/author/LeeHall/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Lee Hall</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/07/what-the-devil-are-vegetarian-eggs/#comment-25019</link>
		<dc:creator>Lee Hall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 04:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, Lloyd, if you are looking for past articles, the ones published since the Dissident Voice renovation are easy to find by scrolling up this page, just above the first comment (and just below the footnotes), where you&#039;ll find a pink bar. It links them.  Thank you for writing your thoughts.

Yes, the link to &quot;Origins of the Vegetarians&quot; (in the third paragraph of this article) is worth a look.  It indicates that the early vegetarians did have what we&#039;d call a vegan perspective. Some important community-based activism involves encouraging local vegetarian societies to align their by-laws (in the section that defines &quot;vegetarian&quot; with reference to the foods to be bought for or offered at events) with that perspective. (Many local vegetarian groups already do have a clear vegan policy written into their by-laws, and they should be thanked and encouraged for it.)

As you might know, the word &quot;vegan&quot; was taken from the first and last letters of &quot;vegetarian&quot; to signify that the vegan commitment takes vegetarianism to its logical conclusion. Vegan Society founder Donald Watson was a life member of the Vegetarian Society and was delighted to see international vegetarian conventions take the cue and serve completely vegan food. Chef Ken Bergeron of the North American Vegetarian Society’s annual Summerfest uses no animal products; meals throughout the five-day event (which draws some 600 attendees) are all vegan, nutritiously complete, and quite attractively presented.

And Doris, yes, it is jarring to see a specific group’s interest in spreading its animal-husbandry standards become so keen that a new market for animal products is lent encouragement so those standards can be applied. When animal-protection groups find symbiosis with the growth of animal agribusiness, it’s clear that the movement for animal rights is located elsewhere. 

Animal rights represents a paradigm shift. Activists, educators, and journalists need to stop conflating the big-money animal-protection industry (which may and often does function as animal-use-protection) with animal rights. Dissident Voice is one of the very few publications making space for this message.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, Lloyd, if you are looking for past articles, the ones published since the Dissident Voice renovation are easy to find by scrolling up this page, just above the first comment (and just below the footnotes), where you&#8217;ll find a pink bar. It links them.  Thank you for writing your thoughts.</p>
<p>Yes, the link to &#8220;Origins of the Vegetarians&#8221; (in the third paragraph of this article) is worth a look.  It indicates that the early vegetarians did have what we&#8217;d call a vegan perspective. Some important community-based activism involves encouraging local vegetarian societies to align their by-laws (in the section that defines &#8220;vegetarian&#8221; with reference to the foods to be bought for or offered at events) with that perspective. (Many local vegetarian groups already do have a clear vegan policy written into their by-laws, and they should be thanked and encouraged for it.)</p>
<p>As you might know, the word &#8220;vegan&#8221; was taken from the first and last letters of &#8220;vegetarian&#8221; to signify that the vegan commitment takes vegetarianism to its logical conclusion. Vegan Society founder Donald Watson was a life member of the Vegetarian Society and was delighted to see international vegetarian conventions take the cue and serve completely vegan food. Chef Ken Bergeron of the North American Vegetarian Society’s annual Summerfest uses no animal products; meals throughout the five-day event (which draws some 600 attendees) are all vegan, nutritiously complete, and quite attractively presented.</p>
<p>And Doris, yes, it is jarring to see a specific group’s interest in spreading its animal-husbandry standards become so keen that a new market for animal products is lent encouragement so those standards can be applied. When animal-protection groups find symbiosis with the growth of animal agribusiness, it’s clear that the movement for animal rights is located elsewhere. </p>
<p>Animal rights represents a paradigm shift. Activists, educators, and journalists need to stop conflating the big-money animal-protection industry (which may and often does function as animal-use-protection) with animal rights. Dissident Voice is one of the very few publications making space for this message.</p>
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		<title>By: Lloyd Rowsey</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/07/what-the-devil-are-vegetarian-eggs/#comment-25015</link>
		<dc:creator>Lloyd Rowsey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 02:11:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eric.  You&#039;re joking, right?   Of the 221 results (including Lee as in sleep, and as in leer), some (small?) number are articles written by Lee Hall.  

To my knowledge there is no way to search DV on a name and return only articles written by that person.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eric.  You&#8217;re joking, right?   Of the 221 results (including Lee as in sleep, and as in leer), some (small?) number are articles written by Lee Hall.  </p>
<p>To my knowledge there is no way to search DV on a name and return only articles written by that person.</p>
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		<title>By: Lloyd Rowsey</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/07/what-the-devil-are-vegetarian-eggs/#comment-25013</link>
		<dc:creator>Lloyd Rowsey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 02:02:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, Doris.   I consulted Merrian-Webster online and found that a &quot;vegan&quot; not only abstains from all animal foods and diary products, but is also:  &quot;one who abstains from using animal products (as leather).&quot;

But, Good Grief, Charlie Brown!!  I KNOW I&#039;m not helping chickens by eating eggs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, Doris.   I consulted Merrian-Webster online and found that a &#8220;vegan&#8221; not only abstains from all animal foods and diary products, but is also:  &#8220;one who abstains from using animal products (as leather).&#8221;</p>
<p>But, Good Grief, Charlie Brown!!  I KNOW I&#8217;m not helping chickens by eating eggs.</p>
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		<title>By: Doris Lin</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/07/what-the-devil-are-vegetarian-eggs/#comment-24932</link>
		<dc:creator>Doris Lin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 16:13:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So originally, &quot;vegetarian&quot; meant &quot;vegan&quot;?! That&#039;s very interesting. 

Certifying eggs as &quot;cage-free&quot; is problematic, but encouraging people to eat eggs when they don&#039;t already eat eggs crosses a very big line.  If you are convincing egg producers to go &quot;cage free&quot; at least there is an argument that you are improving conditions for the chickens. But no one helps chickens by encouraging more egg-eating, no matter how &quot;humane&quot; the producer is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So originally, &#8220;vegetarian&#8221; meant &#8220;vegan&#8221;?! That&#8217;s very interesting. </p>
<p>Certifying eggs as &#8220;cage-free&#8221; is problematic, but encouraging people to eat eggs when they don&#8217;t already eat eggs crosses a very big line.  If you are convincing egg producers to go &#8220;cage free&#8221; at least there is an argument that you are improving conditions for the chickens. But no one helps chickens by encouraging more egg-eating, no matter how &#8220;humane&#8221; the producer is.</p>
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		<title>By: Lloyd Rowsey</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/07/what-the-devil-are-vegetarian-eggs/#comment-24917</link>
		<dc:creator>Lloyd Rowsey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 13:12:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you, Eric and Patricia.  DV&#039;s busy putting up new articles now, I think, so I&#039;ll search the Archives for &quot;Lee Hall&quot; later today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, Eric and Patricia.  DV&#8217;s busy putting up new articles now, I think, so I&#8217;ll search the Archives for &#8220;Lee Hall&#8221; later today.</p>
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		<title>By: Patricia</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/07/what-the-devil-are-vegetarian-eggs/#comment-24894</link>
		<dc:creator>Patricia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 22:35:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As Thrillracer surmises, most eggs sold aren&#039;t fertilized.  Even if the cockerel (which I believe is known as a rooster in the US) could open the cage to get at the hens and even if he could get in with all those hens in there there&#039;d be no room for him to perform since those poor hens are squashed up tight together 24 hours a day.
Lloyd needs to watch out for salmonella in raw egg and remember that (a) it&#039;s possible to consume too much protein for health, (b) all food contains protein and (c) it is impossible to be short of protein if you consume enough calories to stay alive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As Thrillracer surmises, most eggs sold aren&#8217;t fertilized.  Even if the cockerel (which I believe is known as a rooster in the US) could open the cage to get at the hens and even if he could get in with all those hens in there there&#8217;d be no room for him to perform since those poor hens are squashed up tight together 24 hours a day.<br />
Lloyd needs to watch out for salmonella in raw egg and remember that (a) it&#8217;s possible to consume too much protein for health, (b) all food contains protein and (c) it is impossible to be short of protein if you consume enough calories to stay alive.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/07/what-the-devil-are-vegetarian-eggs/#comment-24892</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 21:48:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lloyd,

Lee has published here at Dissident Voice numerous times. Take a look.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lloyd,</p>
<p>Lee has published here at Dissident Voice numerous times. Take a look.</p>
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		<title>By: Lloyd Rowsey</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/07/what-the-devil-are-vegetarian-eggs/#comment-24890</link>
		<dc:creator>Lloyd Rowsey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 21:29:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks posters.  I eat a lot of raw egg-whites for protein.  And not without considerable trepidation for myself and guilt about the condition of industrially-raised chickens.  Nonetheless, I am not a vegan, or a vegetarian, or even meat-free.

If you be interested in a website of a very artistic and political lady (who might sometime seem to be more concerned about cats than humans), you should visit Alice at:

White Light Black Light.

(I also feed and house two cats.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks posters.  I eat a lot of raw egg-whites for protein.  And not without considerable trepidation for myself and guilt about the condition of industrially-raised chickens.  Nonetheless, I am not a vegan, or a vegetarian, or even meat-free.</p>
<p>If you be interested in a website of a very artistic and political lady (who might sometime seem to be more concerned about cats than humans), you should visit Alice at:</p>
<p>White Light Black Light.</p>
<p>(I also feed and house two cats.)</p>
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		<title>By: thrillracer</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/07/what-the-devil-are-vegetarian-eggs/#comment-24883</link>
		<dc:creator>thrillracer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 20:07:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought eggs on the market already were supposed to be unfertilized. Or are they little abortions or something? I thought the point to eschewing eggs was to not use &amp; exploit chickens and to avoid consuming products of ovary cycles. How gross would it be if people ate human eggs? They may be microscopic, but it would still be disgusting. Why do people eat caviar? Thats&#039; gotta be one of the nastiest things humans have decided to eat. Ewwww....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought eggs on the market already were supposed to be unfertilized. Or are they little abortions or something? I thought the point to eschewing eggs was to not use &amp; exploit chickens and to avoid consuming products of ovary cycles. How gross would it be if people ate human eggs? They may be microscopic, but it would still be disgusting. Why do people eat caviar? Thats&#8217; gotta be one of the nastiest things humans have decided to eat. Ewwww&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Maryanne Appel</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/07/what-the-devil-are-vegetarian-eggs/#comment-24874</link>
		<dc:creator>Maryanne Appel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 16:47:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is alarming to witness the lengths that the  egg industry will go to ensure even greater profits for its vile business.  But even more alarming is the fact that so-called humane organizations are participating in the lie that vegetarian-fed (hmm, I never associated 
&quot;waste&quot; with vegetarianism) chickens lay eggs that are more fit for human consumption and more humane than, well,  just plain eggs.  For &quot;humane&quot; organizations to push inhumane products reveals their true purpose, i.e., to please as many people as possible, thereby increasing their membership, and the dues that come with it (six figure salaries don&#039;t come cheap).

Just as the U.S. beef and dairy industries are pushing their products onto the plates of the Chinese population, so the egg industry is pushing its product onto the plates of the Indian  population.  With all of the free advertising the  animal-use  industries are receiving from huge  national and international &quot;welfare&quot; groups, their bottom lines will increase that much faster, along with the misery of the animals who will suffer in even greater numbers because of the &quot;compassionate campaigns&quot; of those supposed welfare organizations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is alarming to witness the lengths that the  egg industry will go to ensure even greater profits for its vile business.  But even more alarming is the fact that so-called humane organizations are participating in the lie that vegetarian-fed (hmm, I never associated<br />
&#8220;waste&#8221; with vegetarianism) chickens lay eggs that are more fit for human consumption and more humane than, well,  just plain eggs.  For &#8220;humane&#8221; organizations to push inhumane products reveals their true purpose, i.e., to please as many people as possible, thereby increasing their membership, and the dues that come with it (six figure salaries don&#8217;t come cheap).</p>
<p>Just as the U.S. beef and dairy industries are pushing their products onto the plates of the Chinese population, so the egg industry is pushing its product onto the plates of the Indian  population.  With all of the free advertising the  animal-use  industries are receiving from huge  national and international &#8220;welfare&#8221; groups, their bottom lines will increase that much faster, along with the misery of the animals who will suffer in even greater numbers because of the &#8220;compassionate campaigns&#8221; of those supposed welfare organizations.</p>
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		<title>By: Lloyd Rowsey</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/07/what-the-devil-are-vegetarian-eggs/#comment-24871</link>
		<dc:creator>Lloyd Rowsey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 13:44:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lee Hall

You might find of interest my post to Gary Kaposta’s article of July 11, 2008, right here at Dissident Voice, titled The Obesification of America.  Or are you another of Sunil Sharma’s “hit-and-run” article posters at Dissident Voice?

Lloyd Rowsey</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lee Hall</p>
<p>You might find of interest my post to Gary Kaposta’s article of July 11, 2008, right here at Dissident Voice, titled The Obesification of America.  Or are you another of Sunil Sharma’s “hit-and-run” article posters at Dissident Voice?</p>
<p>Lloyd Rowsey</p>
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		<title>By: Rich Griffin</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/07/what-the-devil-are-vegetarian-eggs/#comment-24865</link>
		<dc:creator>Rich Griffin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 12:48:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thankfully, there are tons of great substitues for eggs to make delicious recipes!! (:  Go vegan!!! (:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thankfully, there are tons of great substitues for eggs to make delicious recipes!! (:  Go vegan!!! (:</p>
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		<title>By: gigi</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/07/what-the-devil-are-vegetarian-eggs/#comment-24862</link>
		<dc:creator>gigi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 04:55:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vegetarian eggs: what an oxymoron!  Of course the West comes in and destroys the traditions of the East with lies and fabrications of introducing &quot;eggs&quot;; meanwhile the chickens continue to suffer cruelty.     
   Next I read that Bill Gates is sending osteoporsis, blood and pus to the people in African countries; insanity!  It is ridiculous and such a waste of money and health to ALL of these unknowing and trusting people!  These African people just need the money for growing more grains and plants on their lands; NOT disease causing dairy products!  
   These people &quot;think&quot; they are doing good.... but it is all &quot;WRONG&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vegetarian eggs: what an oxymoron!  Of course the West comes in and destroys the traditions of the East with lies and fabrications of introducing &#8220;eggs&#8221;; meanwhile the chickens continue to suffer cruelty.<br />
   Next I read that Bill Gates is sending osteoporsis, blood and pus to the people in African countries; insanity!  It is ridiculous and such a waste of money and health to ALL of these unknowing and trusting people!  These African people just need the money for growing more grains and plants on their lands; NOT disease causing dairy products!<br />
   These people &#8220;think&#8221; they are doing good&#8230;. but it is all &#8220;WRONG&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Leila Fusfeld</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/07/what-the-devil-are-vegetarian-eggs/#comment-24849</link>
		<dc:creator>Leila Fusfeld</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 21:35:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When my mom called me over in the store because she found &quot;vegetarian eggs,&quot; my head started spinning.  Was this a new egg replacer, such as Ener-G?  As we walked to the refrigerator section, I bombarded her with questions.  Were they actually eggs?  What did they mean by vegetarian?  How could eggs be vegetarian, unless they more loosely mean ovo-lacto-vegetarian, in which case they are no more or less vegetarian than the next brand.  Looking at the package it was clear to me that they were regular old eggs.  What was not clear to me was why they were labeled vegetarian, and why that wasn&#039;t misleading advertising.  Well, thanks to Lee, I have my answer.  They&#039;re eggs popped out by vegetarian-FED chickens (probably in contrast to the cannibalism they are normally forced to endure).  Oh, and it&#039;s not misleading advertising because the organizations that lobbied the better business bureau were more concerned with how humane the packaging of eggs sounds when the eggs aren&#039;t &quot;cage free&quot; than with the problem of people thinking eggs can be vegetarian, or that &quot;cage free&quot; is ethical.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When my mom called me over in the store because she found &#8220;vegetarian eggs,&#8221; my head started spinning.  Was this a new egg replacer, such as Ener-G?  As we walked to the refrigerator section, I bombarded her with questions.  Were they actually eggs?  What did they mean by vegetarian?  How could eggs be vegetarian, unless they more loosely mean ovo-lacto-vegetarian, in which case they are no more or less vegetarian than the next brand.  Looking at the package it was clear to me that they were regular old eggs.  What was not clear to me was why they were labeled vegetarian, and why that wasn&#8217;t misleading advertising.  Well, thanks to Lee, I have my answer.  They&#8217;re eggs popped out by vegetarian-FED chickens (probably in contrast to the cannibalism they are normally forced to endure).  Oh, and it&#8217;s not misleading advertising because the organizations that lobbied the better business bureau were more concerned with how humane the packaging of eggs sounds when the eggs aren&#8217;t &#8220;cage free&#8221; than with the problem of people thinking eggs can be vegetarian, or that &#8220;cage free&#8221; is ethical.</p>
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