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		<title>By: Pani</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/07/the-real-power-behind-the-throne-to-be/#comment-25438</link>
		<dc:creator>Pani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 17:40:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a sociologist who researches the stigma of fatness, I lost all respect for ZBrezenski when I heard him speak at the Copernicus Center in Chicago.  His speech was supposed to be about international politics, but all of a sudden he went off on a tangent about &quot;the obesity crisis.&quot; Then I just thought he was just like the rest of the sheeple who get their information from the media and its marketing campaigns.  But having further read his is part of the New World Order, that makes more sense.  Weight obsession keeps the public distracted, scapegoats obesity for every conceivable ill so we look away from things like pollution and side effects of risky and unnecessary medication, and keeps billions flowing from the middle class to the power-elite.  Maybe it wasn&#039;t a spontaneous lapse on his part after all!

The above was a really informative article.  I had no idea that ZB had a dynasty with so many of his offspring in positions of prominence.  (If he is so concerned about world resources, maybe he should have practiced population control!)  But there was one thing in this article that bothered me a bit.  The &quot;typical Polish antisemite.&quot;  Yes, Poland has a ugly history of antisemitism that it has not taken full responsiblity for.  (Although in the middle ages, Poland was more tolerant than many European countries, which is why so many Jewish people moved there.)  But not ALL Polish people are antisemetic either.  I don&#039;t think the author meant to imply they were, just that from the way it is worded, it is easy to make that generalization.  I am 1/2 Polish American and deeply saddened by the MidEast situation.  I have met people from both Israel and Palestine and can honestly say they are among the highest caliber folks I ever want to meet.  Maybe if the world stopped trying to leverage the tensions in that part of the world to meet their own agendas, the peace process would be easier.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a sociologist who researches the stigma of fatness, I lost all respect for ZBrezenski when I heard him speak at the Copernicus Center in Chicago.  His speech was supposed to be about international politics, but all of a sudden he went off on a tangent about &#8220;the obesity crisis.&#8221; Then I just thought he was just like the rest of the sheeple who get their information from the media and its marketing campaigns.  But having further read his is part of the New World Order, that makes more sense.  Weight obsession keeps the public distracted, scapegoats obesity for every conceivable ill so we look away from things like pollution and side effects of risky and unnecessary medication, and keeps billions flowing from the middle class to the power-elite.  Maybe it wasn&#8217;t a spontaneous lapse on his part after all!</p>
<p>The above was a really informative article.  I had no idea that ZB had a dynasty with so many of his offspring in positions of prominence.  (If he is so concerned about world resources, maybe he should have practiced population control!)  But there was one thing in this article that bothered me a bit.  The &#8220;typical Polish antisemite.&#8221;  Yes, Poland has a ugly history of antisemitism that it has not taken full responsiblity for.  (Although in the middle ages, Poland was more tolerant than many European countries, which is why so many Jewish people moved there.)  But not ALL Polish people are antisemetic either.  I don&#8217;t think the author meant to imply they were, just that from the way it is worded, it is easy to make that generalization.  I am 1/2 Polish American and deeply saddened by the MidEast situation.  I have met people from both Israel and Palestine and can honestly say they are among the highest caliber folks I ever want to meet.  Maybe if the world stopped trying to leverage the tensions in that part of the world to meet their own agendas, the peace process would be easier.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Sullivan</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/07/the-real-power-behind-the-throne-to-be/#comment-25436</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick Sullivan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 17:22:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Barak Obama is as much of a politician as Rochester Van Jones was a Butler; They&#039;re  actors who are both employed by the same boss: &quot;Mr Benny.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Barak Obama is as much of a politician as Rochester Van Jones was a Butler; They&#8217;re  actors who are both employed by the same boss: &#8220;Mr Benny.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: whatamess</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/07/the-real-power-behind-the-throne-to-be/#comment-25401</link>
		<dc:creator>whatamess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 02:23:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>if aipac is against obama, then what choice does one have but still be for him, even in his yarmulka, what a disaster</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if aipac is against obama, then what choice does one have but still be for him, even in his yarmulka, what a disaster</p>
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		<title>By: joed</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/07/the-real-power-behind-the-throne-to-be/#comment-25396</link>
		<dc:creator>joed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 23:42:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>cynthia mckinney of the green party would make a great president.  ralph nader would be excellent for the job too!
if you have to vote for a winner then you have already lost.  
your vote hasn&#039;t counted for 8+ years.  what possible reason could you come up with that your vote will matter this year.  the fix is in folks.  obama mccain or any of these types will only be more of the same. a vote for obama is a vote for war, poverty, loss of legal, civil and human rights.  a vote for obama is a vote for mccain and visa-versa.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>cynthia mckinney of the green party would make a great president.  ralph nader would be excellent for the job too!<br />
if you have to vote for a winner then you have already lost.<br />
your vote hasn&#8217;t counted for 8+ years.  what possible reason could you come up with that your vote will matter this year.  the fix is in folks.  obama mccain or any of these types will only be more of the same. a vote for obama is a vote for war, poverty, loss of legal, civil and human rights.  a vote for obama is a vote for mccain and visa-versa.</p>
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		<title>By: Harry</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/07/the-real-power-behind-the-throne-to-be/#comment-25391</link>
		<dc:creator>Harry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 22:44:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The US Elections and Change
Tuesday November 7, 2006 was the midterm election day in the U. S., more than 40% or about 80 million Americans exercised their rights and cast their ballots in that day, which by the standards of this country was an improvement.

The majority of those who participated in these elections, showed their discontent about the terrible things that happened inside the country and by the aggressive behaviour of their government around the world. They simply wanted a change.

Republicans always expressed that they are not pro-corporations (but they are), and Democrats always stated that they work for the middle-class (but they do not). Hereby, they acknowledged that the U.S. society is a class society. In this society, which is undoubtedly capitalistic, the majority of people are workers, working people, unemployed, discriminated women, disenchanted youth, impoverished students, sweat-shop immigrant workers, poor and deprived who were poorly represented or not represented at all by their merits. They should organize and struggle for their rights. 

It is evident that without these progressive elements, the change which was viewed by 3 out of 5 voters – and of course it was the will of the majority of those 60% who did not participate in that election – will not take place.

But what happened on that day was historically important and a step forward. The right wing politicians already have started their counter-attack especially through corporate-media, to neutralize the people’s achievements. To bring change, the American people have to be vigilant and continue their historic march toward progressive targets. This, will be good for them as well as it will be helpful for the well-being of all the peoples around the world.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The US Elections and Change<br />
Tuesday November 7, 2006 was the midterm election day in the U. S., more than 40% or about 80 million Americans exercised their rights and cast their ballots in that day, which by the standards of this country was an improvement.</p>
<p>The majority of those who participated in these elections, showed their discontent about the terrible things that happened inside the country and by the aggressive behaviour of their government around the world. They simply wanted a change.</p>
<p>Republicans always expressed that they are not pro-corporations (but they are), and Democrats always stated that they work for the middle-class (but they do not). Hereby, they acknowledged that the U.S. society is a class society. In this society, which is undoubtedly capitalistic, the majority of people are workers, working people, unemployed, discriminated women, disenchanted youth, impoverished students, sweat-shop immigrant workers, poor and deprived who were poorly represented or not represented at all by their merits. They should organize and struggle for their rights. </p>
<p>It is evident that without these progressive elements, the change which was viewed by 3 out of 5 voters – and of course it was the will of the majority of those 60% who did not participate in that election – will not take place.</p>
<p>But what happened on that day was historically important and a step forward. The right wing politicians already have started their counter-attack especially through corporate-media, to neutralize the people’s achievements. To bring change, the American people have to be vigilant and continue their historic march toward progressive targets. This, will be good for them as well as it will be helpful for the well-being of all the peoples around the world.</p>
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		<title>By: Harry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 22:43:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://democracyandsocialism.com/Articles/TheUSelectionsandchange.html</description>
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		<title>By: bozhidar balkas</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/07/the-real-power-behind-the-throne-to-be/#comment-25373</link>
		<dc:creator>bozhidar balkas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 13:12:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>unless we replace uncle sam w. auntie  JANE  w. human face, more wars or cries of  &quot;DEAR  UNCLE&quot;  r on the way.
if we can&#039;t get rid of him, perhaps we can soften him a bit or better yet force him to mary auntie jane whom he has been raping for 2 cent&#039;s.
aaah, but how?
vote for nader.  a small step, to be sure. but even a tiny step in right direction is a stupendous success for  hobos and housewives.
sheshe, chinese for thanx.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>unless we replace uncle sam w. auntie  JANE  w. human face, more wars or cries of  &#8220;DEAR  UNCLE&#8221;  r on the way.<br />
if we can&#8217;t get rid of him, perhaps we can soften him a bit or better yet force him to mary auntie jane whom he has been raping for 2 cent&#8217;s.<br />
aaah, but how?<br />
vote for nader.  a small step, to be sure. but even a tiny step in right direction is a stupendous success for  hobos and housewives.<br />
sheshe, chinese for thanx.</p>
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		<title>By: MrSynec3</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/07/the-real-power-behind-the-throne-to-be/#comment-25362</link>
		<dc:creator>MrSynec3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 01:49:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael Kenny wrote:
&quot;The Republicans and the neocons (including, perhaps especially, the Jewish ones) have done immense damage to Israel, so the Lobby wants a Democrat at any price.&quot;

Michael,

Very clever bull-shitting artistry from you but you are not fooling 
anyone  at all.    You think of yourself  a clever neo-con.  Ha,  but you are not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael Kenny wrote:<br />
&#8220;The Republicans and the neocons (including, perhaps especially, the Jewish ones) have done immense damage to Israel, so the Lobby wants a Democrat at any price.&#8221;</p>
<p>Michael,</p>
<p>Very clever bull-shitting artistry from you but you are not fooling<br />
anyone  at all.    You think of yourself  a clever neo-con.  Ha,  but you are not.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Kenny</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/07/the-real-power-behind-the-throne-to-be/#comment-25350</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Kenny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 20:21:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama is the Israel Lobby&#039;s candidate and he will follow their line. No question of divided loyalties in the Lobby. Their sole and undivided loyalty is to Israel and that means ABR (Anybody but a Republican). The Republicans and the neocons (including, perhaps especially, the Jewish ones) have done immense damage to Israel, so the Lobby wants a Democrat at any price. The would have preferred Hillary (the whole world loves Bill!) but they&#039;ll settle for Obama.

Israel is built entirely on American brute force and the unwinnable wars have destroyed that force. Hence, the Lobby will want the wars ended ASAP and will not want a third unwinnable war to be started against Iran. Thus, out of Iraq first, under some face-saving timetable, followed by the same in Afghanistan makes sense.  That was what James Baker and Daddybird tried to do a few years ago, but Junior was too pig-headed to go along. It will thus have to wait until 21 January.

The other Lobby essential is NATO. Not because they still entertain any illusions that Europeans will fight for Israel but because it provides a convenient legal pretext for maintaining US forces and military supplies close to Israel. Thus, Europe must be re-subjugated, as it was during the cold war. This is being addressed at once (more or less literally!). For most Europeans, Obama is the risen Kennedy and he will be received as such in the coming days. Conveniently smeared by the New Yorker, so Europeans will see him as a fellow victim of that nasty old Lobby, conveniently &quot;forced&quot; to move his venue to a spot where the TV cameras can get both him and the Brandenburg Gate in the frame at the same time, all he needs now is the firey chariot! And, ideally, he should not say &quot;I am a doughnut&quot; (that&#039;s what a &quot;Berliner&quot; is!).

Will he be able to deliver what the Lobby wants? I doubt it. He will try, but US military, economic and political  power (that&#039;s the order it works in) is probably definitively destroyed (essentially because of the Lobby!) and the economy will probably have collapsed before he gets anywhere near rebuilding the military even to 2001 levels.

So I wouldn&#039;t worry over much about Brzezinski, his children, his grandchildren or his great-grandchildren. Talk is cheap, war is dear and America is about to become poor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama is the Israel Lobby&#8217;s candidate and he will follow their line. No question of divided loyalties in the Lobby. Their sole and undivided loyalty is to Israel and that means ABR (Anybody but a Republican). The Republicans and the neocons (including, perhaps especially, the Jewish ones) have done immense damage to Israel, so the Lobby wants a Democrat at any price. The would have preferred Hillary (the whole world loves Bill!) but they&#8217;ll settle for Obama.</p>
<p>Israel is built entirely on American brute force and the unwinnable wars have destroyed that force. Hence, the Lobby will want the wars ended ASAP and will not want a third unwinnable war to be started against Iran. Thus, out of Iraq first, under some face-saving timetable, followed by the same in Afghanistan makes sense.  That was what James Baker and Daddybird tried to do a few years ago, but Junior was too pig-headed to go along. It will thus have to wait until 21 January.</p>
<p>The other Lobby essential is NATO. Not because they still entertain any illusions that Europeans will fight for Israel but because it provides a convenient legal pretext for maintaining US forces and military supplies close to Israel. Thus, Europe must be re-subjugated, as it was during the cold war. This is being addressed at once (more or less literally!). For most Europeans, Obama is the risen Kennedy and he will be received as such in the coming days. Conveniently smeared by the New Yorker, so Europeans will see him as a fellow victim of that nasty old Lobby, conveniently &#8220;forced&#8221; to move his venue to a spot where the TV cameras can get both him and the Brandenburg Gate in the frame at the same time, all he needs now is the firey chariot! And, ideally, he should not say &#8220;I am a doughnut&#8221; (that&#8217;s what a &#8220;Berliner&#8221; is!).</p>
<p>Will he be able to deliver what the Lobby wants? I doubt it. He will try, but US military, economic and political  power (that&#8217;s the order it works in) is probably definitively destroyed (essentially because of the Lobby!) and the economy will probably have collapsed before he gets anywhere near rebuilding the military even to 2001 levels.</p>
<p>So I wouldn&#8217;t worry over much about Brzezinski, his children, his grandchildren or his great-grandchildren. Talk is cheap, war is dear and America is about to become poor.</p>
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		<title>By: bozhidar balkas</title>
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		<dc:creator>bozhidar balkas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 19:19:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i haven`t yet seen  proof that uncle sam  has ever caved to zionists.
just because US and israel r expanding doesn`t  prove that US  is expanding because israel commands uncle sam to expand.
nor is there proof that israel is expanding is spite of US,EU vigorous any other kind objection to it.
at the moment interests of EU, US, israel appear same or similar.
thank u</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i haven`t yet seen  proof that uncle sam  has ever caved to zionists.<br />
just because US and israel r expanding doesn`t  prove that US  is expanding because israel commands uncle sam to expand.<br />
nor is there proof that israel is expanding is spite of US,EU vigorous any other kind objection to it.<br />
at the moment interests of EU, US, israel appear same or similar.<br />
thank u</p>
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