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		<title>By: Arthur O. Linskey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arthur O. Linskey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 13:43:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve read Mr. Obama&#039;s two books and continue to trust him.</description>
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		<title>By: evie</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/07/the-mendacity-of-hope/#comment-23403</link>
		<dc:creator>evie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 21:29:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tenn
I don&#039;t think socialism is the answer - you still end up with State bosses running the show. We need a new &quot;ism&quot; or clean up what we have.

We need congressional term limits. 

We need big business regulations. 

We need to ban PACs and lobbyists.

We need an educated populace.

We need to stop taxing household incomes less than 6 figures - folks pay plenty of tax on everything they buy, eat, drink, wear, register, drive, etc.

We need to stop making &quot;heroes&quot; out of political and celebrity assholes and find a hero in our own family.

We need to turn off televisions and plant something.

We need to stop pretending and call a spade a spade and keep it real, no whutam sayin&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tenn<br />
I don&#8217;t think socialism is the answer &#8211; you still end up with State bosses running the show. We need a new &#8220;ism&#8221; or clean up what we have.</p>
<p>We need congressional term limits. </p>
<p>We need big business regulations. </p>
<p>We need to ban PACs and lobbyists.</p>
<p>We need an educated populace.</p>
<p>We need to stop taxing household incomes less than 6 figures &#8211; folks pay plenty of tax on everything they buy, eat, drink, wear, register, drive, etc.</p>
<p>We need to stop making &#8220;heroes&#8221; out of political and celebrity assholes and find a hero in our own family.</p>
<p>We need to turn off televisions and plant something.</p>
<p>We need to stop pretending and call a spade a spade and keep it real, no whutam sayin&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: evie</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/07/the-mendacity-of-hope/#comment-23400</link>
		<dc:creator>evie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 21:05:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Haha - that&#039;s Gnoam.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haha &#8211; that&#8217;s Gnoam.</p>
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		<title>By: Arch Stanton</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/07/the-mendacity-of-hope/#comment-23389</link>
		<dc:creator>Arch Stanton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 18:37:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Noam is a gnome?  WTF?

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/41/123799414_a1bdaf2a1b.jpg?v=0</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Noam is a gnome?  WTF?</p>
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		<title>By: Tennessee-Socialist</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/07/the-mendacity-of-hope/#comment-23387</link>
		<dc:creator>Tennessee-Socialist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 17:46:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>evie:  Beware of most right-wing, white-nationalist conspiracy-theory websites. Justin Raimundo is not even a leftist, he is a capitalist, in favor of free markets. the same system that increases poverty and doesn&#039;t work.  The only solution to world problems is socialism, there is no other way, there is no third way and no libertarian solution either</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>evie:  Beware of most right-wing, white-nationalist conspiracy-theory websites. Justin Raimundo is not even a leftist, he is a capitalist, in favor of free markets. the same system that increases poverty and doesn&#8217;t work.  The only solution to world problems is socialism, there is no other way, there is no third way and no libertarian solution either</p>
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		<title>By: evie</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/07/the-mendacity-of-hope/#comment-23362</link>
		<dc:creator>evie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 13:28:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My problem with Sheehan stems from early on in her &quot;career&quot; when I saw her in 2 interviews aprx. 6 months apart, where she changed some of her story, basically to make herself appear more struggling blue collar than a California suburbanite. I think Lila Lipscomb was more suitable as a peace mom - but perhaps not as malleable as Sheehan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My problem with Sheehan stems from early on in her &#8220;career&#8221; when I saw her in 2 interviews aprx. 6 months apart, where she changed some of her story, basically to make herself appear more struggling blue collar than a California suburbanite. I think Lila Lipscomb was more suitable as a peace mom &#8211; but perhaps not as malleable as Sheehan.</p>
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		<title>By: John Wilkinson</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/07/the-mendacity-of-hope/#comment-23361</link>
		<dc:creator>John Wilkinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 13:11:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...except i have to backpedal on my earlier statement, i don&#039;t see why sheehan is in that list.  presumably, she&#039;s not in it for money or fame.  she&#039;s mendacious because she&#039;s screaming to high heaven about the corruption in your sacred military and the govt?  anyone who&#039;s doing that and not a professional &quot;leader&quot; or &quot;politician&quot; is A-OK in my book.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;except i have to backpedal on my earlier statement, i don&#8217;t see why sheehan is in that list.  presumably, she&#8217;s not in it for money or fame.  she&#8217;s mendacious because she&#8217;s screaming to high heaven about the corruption in your sacred military and the govt?  anyone who&#8217;s doing that and not a professional &#8220;leader&#8221; or &#8220;politician&#8221; is A-OK in my book.</p>
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		<title>By: bozhidar balkas</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/07/the-mendacity-of-hope/#comment-23360</link>
		<dc:creator>bozhidar balkas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 13:09:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>john wilkinson et al,
u asked me  to  posit  salient  facts that  prove- and not only show- that  EU  or  League of Nations was in  control of  zionists.
L of N was  comprised  mostly  of christian lands and  empires.
as such, only  it  cd  promise ashkenazim  parts of palestine.
UN  today  wd have, i deduce, not permitted europeans controled by europeans a beach head  in asia.
in &#039;46  the arms  used by mostly  illegal immigrants was obtained from   communist czhechoslovakia.
another communist country, yugoslavia, allowed the shipment of arms to be transported  from montenegro  to  palestine.
1n &#039;48, UN still  composed largely  of christian lands and empires (communist and capitalist) reward ashkenazic crimes  by recognition.
as an aside, what  wd have happened to the new state if from &#039;49  US had turned against israel instead against  pals?
however, US, france, UK, et al  kept  supplying  the new state w. best arms  money cd buy
christians have  made  israel  the strongest military  power in  the region.
ashkenazic diaspora was also  helping  the new state  wage new wars. it was allowed to help  the terrorist  state. if  muslims wanted or tried to help pals to defend selves, any help wd have been  considered helping terrorists.
but we can&#039;t rerun history to find out what US wd have done to muslims sending money from US to pals.
israel had invaded  leb 3 times; it still occupies parts of it. israel  left to own devices coulds not have waged these wars w.o. US  armaments.
so who controls whom? tiny,  impoverished, rocky; sans minerals, water, smelters, etcetc,  israel or world plutos?
does  israel  posses  iron, copper, nickel, uranium?  i&#039;m asking because i do not know. i&#039;m guessing when i say israel  is  a poor land.
it could not have manufactured fighter jets, tanks, etc., if doesn&#039;t have such ores.
now this is  a conclusion: Israel is 51 US state.  rhode island is also a state in  control of  US. to some extent, yes. so does israel.
i do not think i need to go on to prove who controls whom and when/where/how.
certainly, prior to &#039;46 west in toto controled zionists. thank u</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>john wilkinson et al,<br />
u asked me  to  posit  salient  facts that  prove- and not only show- that  EU  or  League of Nations was in  control of  zionists.<br />
L of N was  comprised  mostly  of christian lands and  empires.<br />
as such, only  it  cd  promise ashkenazim  parts of palestine.<br />
UN  today  wd have, i deduce, not permitted europeans controled by europeans a beach head  in asia.<br />
in &#8216;46  the arms  used by mostly  illegal immigrants was obtained from   communist czhechoslovakia.<br />
another communist country, yugoslavia, allowed the shipment of arms to be transported  from montenegro  to  palestine.<br />
1n &#8216;48, UN still  composed largely  of christian lands and empires (communist and capitalist) reward ashkenazic crimes  by recognition.<br />
as an aside, what  wd have happened to the new state if from &#8216;49  US had turned against israel instead against  pals?<br />
however, US, france, UK, et al  kept  supplying  the new state w. best arms  money cd buy<br />
christians have  made  israel  the strongest military  power in  the region.<br />
ashkenazic diaspora was also  helping  the new state  wage new wars. it was allowed to help  the terrorist  state. if  muslims wanted or tried to help pals to defend selves, any help wd have been  considered helping terrorists.<br />
but we can&#8217;t rerun history to find out what US wd have done to muslims sending money from US to pals.<br />
israel had invaded  leb 3 times; it still occupies parts of it. israel  left to own devices coulds not have waged these wars w.o. US  armaments.<br />
so who controls whom? tiny,  impoverished, rocky; sans minerals, water, smelters, etcetc,  israel or world plutos?<br />
does  israel  posses  iron, copper, nickel, uranium?  i&#8217;m asking because i do not know. i&#8217;m guessing when i say israel  is  a poor land.<br />
it could not have manufactured fighter jets, tanks, etc., if doesn&#8217;t have such ores.<br />
now this is  a conclusion: Israel is 51 US state.  rhode island is also a state in  control of  US. to some extent, yes. so does israel.<br />
i do not think i need to go on to prove who controls whom and when/where/how.<br />
certainly, prior to &#8216;46 west in toto controled zionists. thank u</p>
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		<title>By: evie</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/07/the-mendacity-of-hope/#comment-23348</link>
		<dc:creator>evie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 05:19:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tenn
I said &quot;...World government under something like the UN.&quot;

It may be a bit twisted like you said as I drew the conclusion from listening to Noam drone on for 40 years about the evils of US policy and his optimism for organic anarchy. Also I think it was Justin Raimondo over at Antiwar a few years back who wrote of Chomsky stating the US should cede authority to a world body to conduct an investigation, I believe into 9/11. A step in my opinion to having a &quot;world body&quot; govern the world.

But still, Noam is a gnome, manufacturing dissent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tenn<br />
I said &#8220;&#8230;World government under something like the UN.&#8221;</p>
<p>It may be a bit twisted like you said as I drew the conclusion from listening to Noam drone on for 40 years about the evils of US policy and his optimism for organic anarchy. Also I think it was Justin Raimondo over at Antiwar a few years back who wrote of Chomsky stating the US should cede authority to a world body to conduct an investigation, I believe into 9/11. A step in my opinion to having a &#8220;world body&#8221; govern the world.</p>
<p>But still, Noam is a gnome, manufacturing dissent.</p>
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		<title>By: Tennessee-Socialist</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/07/the-mendacity-of-hope/#comment-23345</link>
		<dc:creator>Tennessee-Socialist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 04:32:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>evie: you like most americans twist things, where did Noam Chomsky said that the solution for world problems is UN?

hmmmm...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>evie: you like most americans twist things, where did Noam Chomsky said that the solution for world problems is UN?</p>
<p>hmmmm&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Tennessee-Socialist</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/07/the-mendacity-of-hope/#comment-23344</link>
		<dc:creator>Tennessee-Socialist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 04:27:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I WAS KICKED OUT OF THE OBAMA WEBSITE FOR TALKING AGAINST ISRAEL

Hello,

Thank you so much for your involvement in the My.BarackObama online community. Your voice is valued here; however, we have had to remove your recent comment on the HQ Blog. We strive to maintain a welcoming community where all people can engage in positive discourse. Please join us in moving beyond the divisive politics of the past.

This is your first warning. I would encourage you to review our Terms of Service: http://origin.barackobama.com/terms/

Thanks for your understanding and cooperation!
Nathaniel
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I WAS KICKED OUT OF THE OBAMA WEBSITE FOR TALKING AGAINST ISRAEL</p>
<p>Hello,</p>
<p>Thank you so much for your involvement in the My.BarackObama online community. Your voice is valued here; however, we have had to remove your recent comment on the HQ Blog. We strive to maintain a welcoming community where all people can engage in positive discourse. Please join us in moving beyond the divisive politics of the past.</p>
<p>This is your first warning. I would encourage you to review our Terms of Service: <a href="http://origin.barackobama.com/terms/" rel="nofollow">http://origin.barackobama.com/terms/</a></p>
<p>Thanks for your understanding and cooperation!<br />
Nathaniel<br />
Obama for America</p>
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		<title>By: evie</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/07/the-mendacity-of-hope/#comment-23336</link>
		<dc:creator>evie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 01:20:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;American mainstream media will not allow Chomsky anywhere near the corporate airwaves.&quot;

For decades he&#039;s been on PBS and BookTV, and other places, but I suppose you mean he&#039;s not on CNN or Fox or CBS?  His tapes and videos have been on sale for years. His books have been #1 a few times on the NYT list. For years he has traveled everywhere to lecture.

I don&#039;t think there has ever been a lack of access to anyone who wanted to hear Chomsky. Just recently the Chomsky book Chavez held up a the UN sent sales through the roof, from a 2 second sound byte.

He&#039;s mendacious - spouting anti-US policy rhetoric and about profit hungry corporations but never mentions a global overclass that pulls the strings. He pooh-poohs theories from JFK to 9/11 - they happened the way you&#039;re told they happened.

His solution to world problems? World government under something like the UN (that global ruling class he never mentions).

Chomsky is to the left what William Buckley was to the right - an iconic  bloviator.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;American mainstream media will not allow Chomsky anywhere near the corporate airwaves.&#8221;</p>
<p>For decades he&#8217;s been on PBS and BookTV, and other places, but I suppose you mean he&#8217;s not on CNN or Fox or CBS?  His tapes and videos have been on sale for years. His books have been #1 a few times on the NYT list. For years he has traveled everywhere to lecture.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think there has ever been a lack of access to anyone who wanted to hear Chomsky. Just recently the Chomsky book Chavez held up a the UN sent sales through the roof, from a 2 second sound byte.</p>
<p>He&#8217;s mendacious &#8211; spouting anti-US policy rhetoric and about profit hungry corporations but never mentions a global overclass that pulls the strings. He pooh-poohs theories from JFK to 9/11 &#8211; they happened the way you&#8217;re told they happened.</p>
<p>His solution to world problems? World government under something like the UN (that global ruling class he never mentions).</p>
<p>Chomsky is to the left what William Buckley was to the right &#8211; an iconic  bloviator.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/07/the-mendacity-of-hope/#comment-23322</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 19:53:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As some have implied, Obama&#039;s phony &quot;hope and change&quot; rhetoric is just wishful-thinking and false hope pabulum for the mindless Dem sheep who can only think in terms of voting for some pro-war, pro-corporate Republicrat with a D behind his/her name.  These people seem incapable of learning from the past (because they are blinded by that D).

If this crowd who has bought Obama&#039;s BS truly wanted legitimate positive change, they would not be swooning over pro-war, pro-corporate Obama, instead they would be supporting Nader/Gonzalez or Cynthia McKinney who are true/real progressives. But these Obama sheep are not about to do that, because Nader and McKinney don&#039;t have a D behind their name. And that&#039;s what it&#039;s all about. That D (which translates to an R in reality).

The problem getting people to see the political reality---as opposed to their wishful-thinking and false hope---is that most people are so blinded by that partisan “D” which they want so hard to believe in it at all costs regardless of the political reality.  The partisan D (and R) has been programmed in most people from early on so it&#039;s very difficult to deprogramme. Most people can&#039;t do it or don&#039;t want to do it. So they will vote for the status quo (Obama or McCain), and then wonder why nothing changes for the positive afterwards.

Obama is moving farther and farther to the &quot;right.&quot;  Anyone surprised? One most recent example:

Obama to expand Bush&#039;s faith based programs
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080701/ap_on_el_pr/obama_faith

Some of Obama&#039;s gullible followers are disappointed and surprised by his move farther to the &quot;right&quot; while others give him unconditional, blind support. Typical.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As some have implied, Obama&#8217;s phony &#8220;hope and change&#8221; rhetoric is just wishful-thinking and false hope pabulum for the mindless Dem sheep who can only think in terms of voting for some pro-war, pro-corporate Republicrat with a D behind his/her name.  These people seem incapable of learning from the past (because they are blinded by that D).</p>
<p>If this crowd who has bought Obama&#8217;s BS truly wanted legitimate positive change, they would not be swooning over pro-war, pro-corporate Obama, instead they would be supporting Nader/Gonzalez or Cynthia McKinney who are true/real progressives. But these Obama sheep are not about to do that, because Nader and McKinney don&#8217;t have a D behind their name. And that&#8217;s what it&#8217;s all about. That D (which translates to an R in reality).</p>
<p>The problem getting people to see the political reality&#8212;as opposed to their wishful-thinking and false hope&#8212;is that most people are so blinded by that partisan “D” which they want so hard to believe in it at all costs regardless of the political reality.  The partisan D (and R) has been programmed in most people from early on so it&#8217;s very difficult to deprogramme. Most people can&#8217;t do it or don&#8217;t want to do it. So they will vote for the status quo (Obama or McCain), and then wonder why nothing changes for the positive afterwards.</p>
<p>Obama is moving farther and farther to the &#8220;right.&#8221;  Anyone surprised? One most recent example:</p>
<p>Obama to expand Bush&#8217;s faith based programs<br />
<a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080701/ap_on_el_pr/obama_faith" rel="nofollow">http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080701/ap_on_el_pr/obama_faith</a></p>
<p>Some of Obama&#8217;s gullible followers are disappointed and surprised by his move farther to the &#8220;right&#8221; while others give him unconditional, blind support. Typical.</p>
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		<title>By: Erroll</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/07/the-mendacity-of-hope/#comment-23319</link>
		<dc:creator>Erroll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 19:40:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I share Arch Stanton&#039;s perplexity. How is Noam Chomsky supposed to be a  &quot;manufactured mendacious mouthpiece&quot; when the American mainstream media will not allow Chomsky anywhere near the corporate airwaves? That claim is totally bereft of any logic whatsoever.  Mendacious? I submit that this country can do far worse than to actually be allowed to see and hear the views of Noam Chomsky.  But the chances of the network executives allowing Chomsky to appear on television, whose views are considered so radical by the establishment,  are extremely slim.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I share Arch Stanton&#8217;s perplexity. How is Noam Chomsky supposed to be a  &#8220;manufactured mendacious mouthpiece&#8221; when the American mainstream media will not allow Chomsky anywhere near the corporate airwaves? That claim is totally bereft of any logic whatsoever.  Mendacious? I submit that this country can do far worse than to actually be allowed to see and hear the views of Noam Chomsky.  But the chances of the network executives allowing Chomsky to appear on television, whose views are considered so radical by the establishment,  are extremely slim.</p>
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		<title>By: evie</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/07/the-mendacity-of-hope/#comment-23315</link>
		<dc:creator>evie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 19:23:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You wanna take that question John? (#2, Arch).</description>
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		<title>By: Arch Stanton</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/07/the-mendacity-of-hope/#comment-23314</link>
		<dc:creator>Arch Stanton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 19:18:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1) The Obama candidacy is like a lottery ticket: people know its a scam and a long shot, but they&#039;re so deranged and desperate that they&#039;re willing to try anything.

2) Okay, I&#039;ll bite.  How is Chomsky a &quot;manufactured mendacious mouthpiece&quot; or whatever of the American left?  Assuming that there is such a thing as the &quot;American left&quot; of course.

3)  I&#039;m not sure what this &quot;intense desire for change&quot; is supposed to be.  In a country where most people would rather go hungry than cut off their cable, change seems more like a wistful fantasy than an intense desire.  Or are Americans ready to drop simulacrum politics and get back out on the street?

4)  My contribution to T.S. Eliot Tuesday.

Between the idea
And the reality
Between the motion
And the act
Falls the Shadow

(The Hollow Men)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1) The Obama candidacy is like a lottery ticket: people know its a scam and a long shot, but they&#8217;re so deranged and desperate that they&#8217;re willing to try anything.</p>
<p>2) Okay, I&#8217;ll bite.  How is Chomsky a &#8220;manufactured mendacious mouthpiece&#8221; or whatever of the American left?  Assuming that there is such a thing as the &#8220;American left&#8221; of course.</p>
<p>3)  I&#8217;m not sure what this &#8220;intense desire for change&#8221; is supposed to be.  In a country where most people would rather go hungry than cut off their cable, change seems more like a wistful fantasy than an intense desire.  Or are Americans ready to drop simulacrum politics and get back out on the street?</p>
<p>4)  My contribution to T.S. Eliot Tuesday.</p>
<p>Between the idea<br />
And the reality<br />
Between the motion<br />
And the act<br />
Falls the Shadow</p>
<p>(The Hollow Men)</p>
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		<title>By: Garrett</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/07/the-mendacity-of-hope/#comment-23309</link>
		<dc:creator>Garrett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 18:35:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hp wrote: &quot;What two party system?&quot;

Two parties in name only, of course. 

And I just read an AP article that talks about Obama&#039;s desire to expand Bush&#039;s faith-based programs. Sweet Jesus.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hp wrote: &#8220;What two party system?&#8221;</p>
<p>Two parties in name only, of course. </p>
<p>And I just read an AP article that talks about Obama&#8217;s desire to expand Bush&#8217;s faith-based programs. Sweet Jesus.</p>
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		<title>By: john wilkinson</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/07/the-mendacity-of-hope/#comment-23308</link>
		<dc:creator>john wilkinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 18:21:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;as “genuine” as Cindy or Dennis or Noam or any of the mendacious multitude of mouthpieces manufactured by the American “left” / progressives.&quot;

i second that.  though peanut gallery protesteth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;as “genuine” as Cindy or Dennis or Noam or any of the mendacious multitude of mouthpieces manufactured by the American “left” / progressives.&#8221;</p>
<p>i second that.  though peanut gallery protesteth.</p>
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		<title>By: john wilkinson</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/07/the-mendacity-of-hope/#comment-23307</link>
		<dc:creator>john wilkinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 18:15:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;facts of the greatest import prove, do not merely show, that it had been europe later joined by US which is the master of the ashenazic volk.
the facts i speak of r well known. it would take much time and effort to enumerate them all.&quot;

I say you&#039;re a little biased.  you&#039;re not doing your &quot;volk&quot; any favors by being biased and refusing to see the truth.  yes, the first sentence WAS true -- a million years ago.  they&#039;re pulling israel&#039;s strings, now?  what proof hath thou?  israel&#039;s candidates are coming to europe and america paying fealty to both instead of to israel?  they&#039;re speaking before 5th column organizations in their country? they come to fight in our wars? they wink when we bomb their ships?

the facts that are &quot;well known&quot; are not known by me, so please elucidate me, that&#039;s what this forum is about.  if they&#039;re so well known and obvious, then it shouldn&#039;t take so much effort, like you claim; would take less effort than what took to write that paragraph of yours.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;facts of the greatest import prove, do not merely show, that it had been europe later joined by US which is the master of the ashenazic volk.<br />
the facts i speak of r well known. it would take much time and effort to enumerate them all.&#8221;</p>
<p>I say you&#8217;re a little biased.  you&#8217;re not doing your &#8220;volk&#8221; any favors by being biased and refusing to see the truth.  yes, the first sentence WAS true &#8212; a million years ago.  they&#8217;re pulling israel&#8217;s strings, now?  what proof hath thou?  israel&#8217;s candidates are coming to europe and america paying fealty to both instead of to israel?  they&#8217;re speaking before 5th column organizations in their country? they come to fight in our wars? they wink when we bomb their ships?</p>
<p>the facts that are &#8220;well known&#8221; are not known by me, so please elucidate me, that&#8217;s what this forum is about.  if they&#8217;re so well known and obvious, then it shouldn&#8217;t take so much effort, like you claim; would take less effort than what took to write that paragraph of yours.</p>
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		<title>By: hp</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/07/the-mendacity-of-hope/#comment-23305</link>
		<dc:creator>hp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 18:04:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What two party system?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What two party system?</p>
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