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		<title>By: hp</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/07/dispelling-the-murkiness-of-the-corporate-media-the-real-news/#comment-23902</link>
		<dc:creator>hp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jul 2008 19:32:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anything and everything but the Israeli/Zionist malfeasance which stinks up the joint everywhere you look.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anything and everything but the Israeli/Zionist malfeasance which stinks up the joint everywhere you look.</p>
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		<title>By: brian</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/07/dispelling-the-murkiness-of-the-corporate-media-the-real-news/#comment-23865</link>
		<dc:creator>brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jul 2008 04:22:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, Lloyd, the media are saturating the airwaves print media and public minds, with Mugabe-as -evil rhetoric.  Anyone alert to the nature and tone of this wall-to-wall coverage has no problem spotting a demonisation campaign using the media as an echo chamber.
Its called propaganda, and its target is the public.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, Lloyd, the media are saturating the airwaves print media and public minds, with Mugabe-as -evil rhetoric.  Anyone alert to the nature and tone of this wall-to-wall coverage has no problem spotting a demonisation campaign using the media as an echo chamber.<br />
Its called propaganda, and its target is the public.</p>
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		<title>By: Lloyd Rowsey</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/07/dispelling-the-murkiness-of-the-corporate-media-the-real-news/#comment-23851</link>
		<dc:creator>Lloyd Rowsey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jul 2008 22:05:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brian.  I get BBC headlines as a &quot;stuff&quot; added to my Google Homepage.  It&#039;s frequently had a Zimbabwe item -- out of three items -- for the past week.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian.  I get BBC headlines as a &#8220;stuff&#8221; added to my Google Homepage.  It&#8217;s frequently had a Zimbabwe item &#8212; out of three items &#8212; for the past week.</p>
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		<title>By: Lloyd Rowsey</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/07/dispelling-the-murkiness-of-the-corporate-media-the-real-news/#comment-23850</link>
		<dc:creator>Lloyd Rowsey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jul 2008 22:00:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Media Lens editors.  Are you in the US or in the UK?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Media Lens editors.  Are you in the US or in the UK?</p>
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		<title>By: hp</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/07/dispelling-the-murkiness-of-the-corporate-media-the-real-news/#comment-23849</link>
		<dc:creator>hp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jul 2008 21:56:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s some news you&#039;ll never see on Zionmedia.

http://infowars.net/articles/july2008/040708RonPaul2.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s some news you&#8217;ll never see on Zionmedia.</p>
<p><a href="http://infowars.net/articles/july2008/040708RonPaul2.htm" rel="nofollow">http://infowars.net/articles/july2008/040708RonPaul2.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Lloyd Rowsey</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/07/dispelling-the-murkiness-of-the-corporate-media-the-real-news/#comment-23847</link>
		<dc:creator>Lloyd Rowsey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jul 2008 21:51:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, John, I was sorta wondering who &quot;they&quot; are.   &quot;the Halifax International Symposium on Media and Disinformation in 2004&quot;?!!?

So, you said a mouthful, JW.  (Just don&#039;t take me apart for insulting you when I&#039;m tired, or you&#039;re tired, sometime.  I&#039;m sure neither of us is a model of consistency and repetitive thinking -- else we&#039;d be posting windy book reviews at DV.)

Right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, John, I was sorta wondering who &#8220;they&#8221; are.   &#8220;the Halifax International Symposium on Media and Disinformation in 2004&#8243;?!!?</p>
<p>So, you said a mouthful, JW.  (Just don&#8217;t take me apart for insulting you when I&#8217;m tired, or you&#8217;re tired, sometime.  I&#8217;m sure neither of us is a model of consistency and repetitive thinking &#8212; else we&#8217;d be posting windy book reviews at DV.)</p>
<p>Right?</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Skinner</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/07/dispelling-the-murkiness-of-the-corporate-media-the-real-news/#comment-23695</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Skinner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 17:41:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;what is the motivation? — well the same as with the selfish swine — money, recognition, fame. all couched in “caring for humanity”, etc. bullshit.&quot;

John, isn&#039;t this in itself &quot;disinformation, falsehood(s), distortion(s), unresearched-unsupported assertion(s), etc.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;what is the motivation? — well the same as with the selfish swine — money, recognition, fame. all couched in “caring for humanity”, etc. bullshit.&#8221;</p>
<p>John, isn&#8217;t this in itself &#8220;disinformation, falsehood(s), distortion(s), unresearched-unsupported assertion(s), etc.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: brian</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/07/dispelling-the-murkiness-of-the-corporate-media-the-real-news/#comment-23573</link>
		<dc:creator>brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 22:52:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;Concomitant to the violence wreaked in Iraq, Afghanistan, Haiti, Democratic Republic of Congo, and elsewhere around the world by US/western-backed militarism as well as corporate plunder of the destroyed states is the enabling role played by the corporate media in&#039;

this applies to nowhere so much as Zimbabwe: the western media has been engaged in a shrill war to demonise its govt and president,  in away that should alert readers, yet hasnt. Even Dissident Voice has chosen the path of silence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;Concomitant to the violence wreaked in Iraq, Afghanistan, Haiti, Democratic Republic of Congo, and elsewhere around the world by US/western-backed militarism as well as corporate plunder of the destroyed states is the enabling role played by the corporate media in&#8217;</p>
<p>this applies to nowhere so much as Zimbabwe: the western media has been engaged in a shrill war to demonise its govt and president,  in away that should alert readers, yet hasnt. Even Dissident Voice has chosen the path of silence.</p>
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		<title>By: Dogwood</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/07/dispelling-the-murkiness-of-the-corporate-media-the-real-news/#comment-23561</link>
		<dc:creator>Dogwood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 19:42:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A lot of hemming and hawing there in the answer to the most important question from KP.   In essence, if you are &quot;non-corporate&quot; where&#039;s the coverage of the non-corporate candidate, Ralph Nader?  

That&#039;s the bell weather for determining any media outlet&#039;s &quot;non-corporatism&quot;.  It  begins and ends right there.

Simple.

Sorry, Real News....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A lot of hemming and hawing there in the answer to the most important question from KP.   In essence, if you are &#8220;non-corporate&#8221; where&#8217;s the coverage of the non-corporate candidate, Ralph Nader?  </p>
<p>That&#8217;s the bell weather for determining any media outlet&#8217;s &#8220;non-corporatism&#8221;.  It  begins and ends right there.</p>
<p>Simple.</p>
<p>Sorry, Real News&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: bozhidar balkas</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/07/dispelling-the-murkiness-of-the-corporate-media-the-real-news/#comment-23557</link>
		<dc:creator>bozhidar balkas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 19:08:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nader is polling 6%.
that means that ab  6% of  &#039;ricans r  just right of lenin/trocky; 50% r  slightly right of franco and 44% a tad left of mussolini.sheshe</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nader is polling 6%.<br />
that means that ab  6% of  &#8216;ricans r  just right of lenin/trocky; 50% r  slightly right of franco and 44% a tad left of mussolini.sheshe</p>
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		<title>By: john wilkinson</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/07/dispelling-the-murkiness-of-the-corporate-media-the-real-news/#comment-23540</link>
		<dc:creator>john wilkinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 16:39:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;They unanimously declared disinformation to be a crime against humanity and a crime against peace.&quot;

in that case, a vast majority of journalists, as well as DV contributors and &quot;progessives&quot; leaders belong in the slammer.  yes, those from the other (selfish swine) side as well, but you&#039;re being holier than thou here. i mean almost every article in DV is filled with disinformation, falsehoods, distortions, unresearched-unsupported assertions, etc., some of which i&#039;ve (and others) commented on when it came up and when i had a chance.  and what is the motivation? -- well the same as with the selfish swine -- money, recognition, fame.  all couched in &quot;caring for humanity&quot;, etc. bullshit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;They unanimously declared disinformation to be a crime against humanity and a crime against peace.&#8221;</p>
<p>in that case, a vast majority of journalists, as well as DV contributors and &#8220;progessives&#8221; leaders belong in the slammer.  yes, those from the other (selfish swine) side as well, but you&#8217;re being holier than thou here. i mean almost every article in DV is filled with disinformation, falsehoods, distortions, unresearched-unsupported assertions, etc., some of which i&#8217;ve (and others) commented on when it came up and when i had a chance.  and what is the motivation? &#8212; well the same as with the selfish swine &#8212; money, recognition, fame.  all couched in &#8220;caring for humanity&#8221;, etc. bullshit.</p>
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		<title>By: mary</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/07/dispelling-the-murkiness-of-the-corporate-media-the-real-news/#comment-23532</link>
		<dc:creator>mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 14:35:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This has just been put up by the Editors of Medialens in the UK.  An example of the slow creep of fascism when free speech is silenced. The contributors to medialens are neither abusive or threatening in my experience  but merely attempt to bring topics forward for a wider discussion. In this case, discouraging the case for war in Iran is what every sane citizen should be trying for.

&#039;Times Newspapers threaten Media Lens with legal and police action
Posted by The Editors on July 3, 2008, 2:15 pm
Board Administrator

We have received repeated threats of legal and police action from Alastair Brett, legal manager of News International’s Times Newspapers on June 28 and July 2. Brett claims a Times Journalist, Bronwen Maddox, has been subject to threatening emails from Media Lens readers. Brett also claims that we have breached copyright by publishing an email from Maddox without permission. We have sought legal advice and, having essentially zero resources for fighting a court case, feel we have no choice but to delete Maddox’s email from our media alert, ‘Selling The Fireball’, as demanded. You can see the amended version here: 

http://www.medialens.org/alerts/08/080625_selling_the_fireball.php 

With more than 1 million people lying dead in Iraq, it pains us greatly to see our attempt to host an honest, rational discussion on the looming threat of war with Iran butchered in this way. 

It is almost exactly seven years since we started Media Lens and this is the first time we have been threatened with legal action. We will have more to say about this in due course, as will others. As ever, we strongly urge readers to maintain a polite, non-aggressive and non-abusive tone in communicating with journalists. 

Best wishes 

The Editors&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This has just been put up by the Editors of Medialens in the UK.  An example of the slow creep of fascism when free speech is silenced. The contributors to medialens are neither abusive or threatening in my experience  but merely attempt to bring topics forward for a wider discussion. In this case, discouraging the case for war in Iran is what every sane citizen should be trying for.</p>
<p>&#8216;Times Newspapers threaten Media Lens with legal and police action<br />
Posted by The Editors on July 3, 2008, 2:15 pm<br />
Board Administrator</p>
<p>We have received repeated threats of legal and police action from Alastair Brett, legal manager of News International’s Times Newspapers on June 28 and July 2. Brett claims a Times Journalist, Bronwen Maddox, has been subject to threatening emails from Media Lens readers. Brett also claims that we have breached copyright by publishing an email from Maddox without permission. We have sought legal advice and, having essentially zero resources for fighting a court case, feel we have no choice but to delete Maddox’s email from our media alert, ‘Selling The Fireball’, as demanded. You can see the amended version here: </p>
<p><a href="http://www.medialens.org/alerts/08/080625_selling_the_fireball.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.medialens.org/alerts/08/080625_selling_the_fireball.php</a> </p>
<p>With more than 1 million people lying dead in Iraq, it pains us greatly to see our attempt to host an honest, rational discussion on the looming threat of war with Iran butchered in this way. </p>
<p>It is almost exactly seven years since we started Media Lens and this is the first time we have been threatened with legal action. We will have more to say about this in due course, as will others. As ever, we strongly urge readers to maintain a polite, non-aggressive and non-abusive tone in communicating with journalists. </p>
<p>Best wishes </p>
<p>The Editors&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: Hue Longer</title>
		<link>http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/07/dispelling-the-murkiness-of-the-corporate-media-the-real-news/#comment-23530</link>
		<dc:creator>Hue Longer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 14:08:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Petersen delivers and Cahill didn&#039;t get cold ...can you imagine asking Air America questions about the duopoly or capitalism?  I&#039;ll have to check the site, but am not big on hoping for a TV alternative</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Petersen delivers and Cahill didn&#8217;t get cold &#8230;can you imagine asking Air America questions about the duopoly or capitalism?  I&#8217;ll have to check the site, but am not big on hoping for a TV alternative</p>
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