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]]> By: hp http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/07/christian-zionist-gathering-mired-in-controversy/#comment-23419 hp Wed, 02 Jul 2008 23:55:05 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=2268#comment-23419 "There's no business like Shoah business." That's for damn sure. “There’s no business like Shoah business.”
That’s for damn sure.

]]> By: Alex http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/07/christian-zionist-gathering-mired-in-controversy/#comment-23324 Alex Tue, 01 Jul 2008 20:48:43 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=2268#comment-23324 Let's look at this article with the understanding of a couple time tested quotes: In politics nothing happens by accident If it happens you can bet it was planned that way. - Franklin D. Roosevelt "The real truth of the matter is, as you and I know, that a financial element in the large centers has owned the government ever since the days of Andrew Jackson." – Franklin Roosevelt Only what happened and who ultimately benefited can be proven everything else is propaganda. –George Orwell 'Shoah' in Yiddish means "burnt offering" and it refers to the Holocaust in Israel. "Burnt offering" in many customs across the world (Native American, European, Japan, etc.) means sacrificing something including humans for the good of the whole. Given that history is often rewritten and the first cut of history is usually wrong given obvious biases and propaganda value, the official version of recent events is often not correct. Based on the wisdom above and assuming it is correct, what is real and what is myth? Let’s look at this article with the understanding of a couple time tested quotes:

In politics nothing happens by accident If it happens you can bet it was planned that way. – Franklin D. Roosevelt

“The real truth of the matter is, as you and I know, that a financial element in the large centers has owned the government ever since the days of Andrew Jackson.” – Franklin Roosevelt

Only what happened and who ultimately benefited can be proven everything else is propaganda. –George Orwell

‘Shoah’ in Yiddish means “burnt offering” and it refers to the Holocaust in Israel. “Burnt offering” in many customs across the world (Native American, European, Japan, etc.) means sacrificing something including humans for the good of the whole.

Given that history is often rewritten and the first cut of history is usually wrong given obvious biases and propaganda value, the official version of recent events is often not correct. Based on the wisdom above and assuming it is correct, what is real and what is myth?

]]> By: bozhidar balkas http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/07/christian-zionist-gathering-mired-in-controversy/#comment-23301 bozhidar balkas Tue, 01 Jul 2008 17:34:13 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=2268#comment-23301 it may be that even those ashkenazim who severly oppose israel's polcy and condemn its crimes, do so while being minizionists;ie, r for two-state sol'n. i wd have to reread chomsky's writing ab israel before i wd state that chomsky does not write much ab/against zionism but ab/against israel. if i do reread s'm of his wrtings i'l let u know if he had also condemned zionism. thank u it may be that even those ashkenazim who severly oppose israel’s polcy and condemn its crimes, do so while being minizionists;ie, r for two-state sol’n.
i wd have to reread chomsky’s writing ab israel before i wd state that chomsky does not write much ab/against zionism but ab/against israel.
if i do reread s’m of his wrtings i’l let u know if he had also condemned zionism. thank u

]]> By: Phil http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/07/christian-zionist-gathering-mired-in-controversy/#comment-23291 Phil Tue, 01 Jul 2008 14:53:28 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=2268#comment-23291 So AIPAC, an organization of terrorist supporters sponsoring self-destructive actions that continue to do grievous harm to all kind of people including Jews, is in an uproar over mere words against Jews. Oh, the irony. So AIPAC, an organization of terrorist supporters sponsoring self-destructive actions that continue to do grievous harm to all kind of people including Jews, is in an uproar over mere words against Jews. Oh, the irony.

]]> By: bozhidar balkas http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/07/christian-zionist-gathering-mired-in-controversy/#comment-23285 bozhidar balkas Tue, 01 Jul 2008 14:21:17 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=2268#comment-23285 indeed hitler wanted ashkenazic volk out of germany. hitler has offerred to them a home in madagaskar. nat, ashkenazic people, an admixure of asians and europeans, did not accept his offer. having latched onto judaism, and being strongly separatist, they invented zionism. it was a daring/desperate invention. possibly/probably churchill, balfour, et al knew that. but they thought, i think, it wd be nice for europeans controled by europeans to establish a beachead in asia. these europeans were later joined by sephardic/mizrahic voelken. but the master race of peoples of judaic faith had always been the ashkenazic volk. and the masters of the ash'm r christian lands. altho chomsky et al have not, as far as know, averred this revelation, i think that their dissidence is based on the fact that it is US/EU which controls isr to a high degree or completely. thank u indeed hitler wanted ashkenazic volk out of germany. hitler has offerred to them a home in madagaskar.
nat, ashkenazic people, an admixure of asians and europeans, did not accept his offer.
having latched onto judaism, and being strongly separatist, they invented zionism.
it was a daring/desperate invention. possibly/probably churchill, balfour, et al knew that.
but they thought, i think, it wd be nice for europeans controled by europeans to establish a beachead in asia.
these europeans were later joined by sephardic/mizrahic voelken.
but the master race of peoples of judaic faith had always been the ashkenazic volk.
and the masters of the ash’m r christian lands.
altho chomsky et al have not, as far as know, averred this revelation, i think that their dissidence is based on the fact that it is US/EU which controls isr to a high degree or completely. thank u

]]> By: Susie Larkin http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/07/christian-zionist-gathering-mired-in-controversy/#comment-23282 Susie Larkin Tue, 01 Jul 2008 14:05:13 +0000 http://www.dissidentvoice.org/?p=2268#comment-23282 Also Bill, what about the three "ex-terrorists" that CUFI has scheduled to speak (the only Arab speakers - all pf them ex-Muslim, evangelical Christians) - at the event. These three, who have been doing the rounds as a kind of former terrorists' freak show are highly dubious characters, as any cursory surf via Google or YouTube will reveal. Their stories of their pasts just don't add up, as publications such as the Jerusalem Post have found. But heck, as long as they tell the CUFI Christian Zionists and neocons what they want to hear about the evil and Satanic nature of Islam, who cares! It is truly nauseating (and dangerous) that the likes of Daniel Pipes and William Kristol are going along with all this; makes you wonder who the extremists and distorters in the current much-touted "War of Ideas" really are. Also Bill, what about the three “ex-terrorists” that CUFI has scheduled to speak (the only Arab speakers – all pf them ex-Muslim, evangelical Christians) – at the event. These three, who have been doing the rounds as a kind of former terrorists’ freak show are highly dubious characters, as any cursory surf via Google or YouTube will reveal. Their stories of their pasts just don’t add up, as publications such as the Jerusalem Post have found. But heck, as long as they tell the CUFI Christian Zionists and neocons what they want to hear about the evil and Satanic nature of Islam, who cares! It is truly nauseating (and dangerous) that the likes of Daniel Pipes and William Kristol are going along with all this; makes you wonder who the extremists and distorters in the current much-touted “War of Ideas” really are.

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