There’s nothing progressive about it, Ford is exactly right except that saying they are liars is too kind. They’ve actually adjusted their politics to the “new normal” – let the government spy on us, bomb Pakistani/Afghan babies instead of Iraqi babies (since the countries destroyed already anyway) and let the Palestinians eat dirt. Oh, plus he’ll vote to loot the entire economy for the financial sector along with John McCain and George W. Bush.

Basically: these so-called progressives for Obama have no principles worth the name and exist ONLY to marginalize, attack and guilt-trip anyone who is on the left with an actual vision of change. They are spear-carriers for the empire, and will position themselves wherever their little career path takes them.

Barak will hold talks for three days with Defense Secretary Robert Gates, Vice President Dick Cheney, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, National Security Adviser Stephen Hadley and UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon – as well as U.S. President George Bush.

Barak’s visit will also precede a tour by Israeli military chief of staff Lieutenant-General Gabi Ashkenazi, who is set to meet with Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Adm. Michael Mullen.”
Posted Jul 11, 2008 08:20 AM PST
Category: IRAN

“Looks like Washington is getting its “marching orders” from Tel Aviv about the next upcoming war to “neutralize” yet another of Israel’s “existential threats”.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/barak-in-washington-to-lobby-for-iran-attack.html

“The same cancer that bankrupted the Soviet Union and the early Russian Federation, namely the Russian-Israeli Mafia — the global organized crime syndicate that uses Israeli government protection and passports to cover their illegal worldwide activities — has so thoroughly permeated the American political and business system that the FBI and U.S. intelligence agencies are virtually powerless to bring the major perpetrators to justice.”

http://onlinejournal.com/artman/publish/article_3479.shtml

As for history, turn over the rocks of these events and look at who is under them. Look at who financed Columbus, Monroe, the slave trade, WWI, (both sides) WWII, (both sides) etc., etc., etc.
Do you know, Max, who financed Monroe? Look it up.

For Christ’s sake look at who the Fed is.
Look at whose movies, tv, newspapers and lawyers dictate what “news” is, what “history” is, what reality is.
The “usual suspects.” That’s who.

Cicero agonizing over their rotten conniving coveting and maliciousness.
History is full of philosophers from every nation on earth “philosophizing” about these deviants, these shape shifting lizards.

So much for “history.”
“Zionists” by any other name.

Since you are a leftist lol, do tell….

You and hp need to begin reading a little American history. And when you have explain to all how James Monroe chaneled Zionism ala ME 1948 and how that figures into the hundreds upon hundreds of occupations this country has set up shop, the death-squads in and throughout Latin America. How zionism got us involved in South East Asia and much of Africa, as well as the far East?

What Zionist told T. Roosevelt to invade Cuba, Panama, and the Philipines, just for starts. And how were the Zionists responsible for Andrew Jackson’s merciless slaughter of Native Americans; and Prez Polk in annexing Mexico’s land known today as Texas or California and on and on…?

Where are the “leftiest” in this narrative…pray tell?

You conflate some left of center Israel/AIPAC supporters with the entire US of A history’s Manifest Destiny and its endess wars since its inception.

Ignornance is about as kind a word as I can come up with for your repeated and narrow world-view. You take one situation and blow it across time and space.

bozhidar balkas you are right Uncle Sam is the boss, which pretty much negates everything Deadbeat has written, regardless of what anyone thinks of Zionism, Israel or AIPAC or Obama….

But the major reason for the persistence of this pervasive myth seems to stem from certain deliberate efforts that are designed to perpetuate the legend in order to camouflage some real economic and geopolitical special interests that drive U.S. military adventures in the Middle East. There is evidence that both the military-industrial complex and hard-line Zionist proponents of “greater Israel” disingenuously use oil (as an issue of national interest) in order to disguise their own nefarious special interests and objectives: justification of continued expansion of military spending, extension of sales markets for military hardware, and recasting the geopolitical map of the Middle East in favor of Israel.

It is no secret that the major force behind the Iran-Libya Sanction Act was the America Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC), the main Zionist lobby in Washington. The success of AIPAC in passing ILSA through both the Congress and the White House over the opposition of the major U.S. oil companies is testament to the fact that, in the context of U.S. policy in the Middle East, even the influence of the oil industry pales vis-à-vis the influence of the Zionist lobby.[24]

Counterpunch

And Again Max your agenda has been to obscure the role and influence of Zionism on the American polity. This desire to obscure and divert the issue away from Zionism role is what is dubious and untrustworthy about the “left”. Critiques ring hallow when dishonesty and distortions emerges.

Clearly “history” didn’t “begin” in 1948 however the CURRENT war on Iraq and the war in Afghanistan — a war that McKinney help to authorized — was NOT for the reason being sold by the “left”. And if the “left” has a bogus agenda then solidarity that is needed for any MASS movement will not happened. We saw this in 2003 when issues surrounding Zionism was brought up only to be dismissed. The entire anti-war movement was diffused because of it.

This is also the reason why much of the criticism coming from the left about Obama right hallow. The left FAILS to analyze its own role in Obama’s emergence. HAD the left maintained the momentum from the anti-war movement in 2003 or supported Nader in 2004 and not diffused in order to obscure and protect U.S. Zionism (you see MAX I’m not talking about Israeli Zionism) then Obama would be an unknown.

None of the analysis by Ford and other even dare take the vacuum created by the left into their accounting. Thus since the left created the vacuum therefore left offers NO ALTERNATIVE. At NOT in 2008. AND if the LEFT does not, like you MAX, dare confront ZIONISM WITHIN the United States there is NO hope for solidarity.

The Counterpunch article provides CLARITY and provide the analysis needed to confront both Zionism and militarism. Unfortunately many on the left like you Max would rather continue to spread misinformation regarding the basis for the U.S. waging wars in the Middle East today.

First, your persistance with this idea that “oil” is a pretext to hide the real reason for US hegemony in the Middle East seems to have found an article in Counterpunch to provide you with some support. But it’s interesting that Glenn Ford’s article seems to prompt your neverending diatribe on Zionism. Should I say a puzzlement.

But the support is flimsy in this sense: oil is not simply a pretext used by so-called (invisible, everywhere and nowhere) leftists, but by many in the MSM and conservatives like Allan Greenspan. To try to separate ideology (American Exceptionalism and Zionism) from the military industrial complex is a fools errand. These are confluent.

But that does not mean that resources is not a root cause of hegemony, conflict and war, and particularly as it is played out daily in the Middle East. I would contend that the geopolotics – in the form of US and by extention Israel hegemony – is caused by one of the most precious industrial requirements – OIL.

Peak oil will be as controvercial as any forecast including global warming. Even as oil wells dry up there will be the nay-sayers who will proclaim an endless supply. There is absolutely no reason to believe that the earth has produced an endless supply of fossil which takes millions of years to create. Peak oil has been gauged since the early seventies, well before our current occupations – Iraq/Afganistan.

I will give you this, there is an ideology in confluence with our Middle East and elsewhere hegemony – the Monroe Doctrine and Manifest Destiny = American Exceptionalism. It is an American Fundamentalism which has long ago joined forces with the corporatist and thereby the military industrial complex.

The author of the Counterpunch article is partly right, GW Bush and Cheney are not so-much “oil men” but advocates for corporatism, oil industry being one of the largest. That some use their association with oil is mis-leading to be sure, but it is not a case for the centuries old foreign policies of the US of Amerika.

In this regard, Israel can be seen as an extention of American colonialization and expansionism. Israel looks at American history (there are Israel historians who have made this case), the genocide of the Native American, slavery, plundering of Latin America, the annexation of large portions of Mexico through force, and say, Why not Israel? US history is being played out in Israel’s justification for Apartheid and it’s own MIC and hundreds of nuclear warheads.

Again, DB, you seem to only strart reading history with the invention of Israel in 1948 which creates a narrow view in the extreme.

Behind the Myth of War for Oil

But the major reason for the persistence of this pervasive myth seems to stem from certain deliberate efforts that are designed to perpetuate the legend in order to camouflage some real economic and geopolitical special interests that drive U.S. military adventures in the Middle East. There is evidence that both the military-industrial complex and hard-line Zionist proponents of “greater Israel” disingenuously use oil (as an issue of national interest) in order to disguise their own nefarious special interests and objectives: justification of continued expansion of military spending, extension of sales markets for military hardware, and recasting the geopolitical map of the Middle East in favor of Israel.

Counterpunch

like Pelosi telling code pink in her drive way that they’re not her constituents

The time to hold Obama accountable is NOW, when he needs your vote. After E-day, he will tell all of these leftists who supported him (despite their knowing better) to get off of his lawn.

Hmmmm

Cynthia McKinney voted to give Bush the authority to invade Afghanistan. I don’ that that was “unambiguously” progressive as Ford frames it.

Bravo for pointing out that Obama’s [alleged] progressivism is an illusion and about as substantial as that of gossamer wings. Obama is taking the progressive vote for granted and too many of the progressives, unfortunately, are happy to accommodate him.